Wanted to know if you will still get ota updates with a stock rooted phone?
Chwek13 said:
Wanted to know if you will still get ota updates with a stock rooted phone?
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Yes you will. But you'll lose root and CWM of you accept it.
Edit: if you have superuser paid version it does have ota survival but its not guaranteed to keep root.
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Ok thank u
Chwek13 said:
Ok thank u
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No problem.
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If you have a custom recovery or if you have removed sprint bloatware it won't go through. Just root us fine though
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On stock rooted Roms and some TW Roms yes. But i usually take the update on my stock rooted Rom. It tries to install and restarts the phone then i get a android with triangle screen. But, i pull the battery and restart and all is fine. No more ota notifications and everything remains the same...
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cd7 said:
On stock rooted Roms and some TW Roms yes. But i usually take the update on my stock rooted Rom. It tries to install and restarts the phone then i get a android with triangle screen. But, i pull the battery and restart and all is fine. No more ota notifications and everything remains the same...
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You know if you read in the general section. There is an ota notification kill. Then you dont have to worry about that. But to each their own.
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Has anyone tried Rootkeeper with this OTA? If so, can you provide feedback on the results?
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My understanding is that recovery stays in a separate partition and whatever you do to it does not affect getting an OTA, is that right?
Also, what if my phone is rooted using the Zerg exploit or whatever method, can I still get an OTA?
So basically I think my questions is, what ultimately decides whether my phone can get an OTA, or not?
if you are on stock ROM, you will get it just fine
but you might loose ROOT after it finish the upgrade
if you are on Custom ROM, you wont get OTA
You can get the ota even on a custom ROM. As long as you have the stock recovery.
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mikeyinid said:
You can get the ota even on a custom ROM. As long as you have the stock recovery.
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How would you have a custom ROM with stock recovery? I've never rooted a Samsung phone since this is my first and I'm waiting to root it, so unless Samsung is different I don't see how.
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You can flash stock recovery using odin
Towle said:
How would you have a custom ROM with stock recovery? I've never rooted a Samsung phone since this is my first and I'm waiting to root it, so unless Samsung is different I don't see how.
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I'm sure within a couple days there will be a custom rom with the new features. that's an assumption but its always been like that on other phones I have had. Hopefully that's the case with this phone also.
I have stock rooted ROM with CWM recovery, is that okay? Or do I have to have a stock recovery?
513263337 said:
I have stock rooted ROM with CWM recovery, is that okay? Or do I have to have a stock recovery?
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you will get the notification for the ota, your phone will download it but when it boots into recovery to flash it and its not the stock recovery, it will just give an error and you will probably have to pull the battery to reboot. i did this on the nexus s. if i remember right i never got the ota notififcation again either after it failed.
I know there are methods out there that can flash the entire phone back to stock (kernel, ROM, recovery) but that involves wiping everything. Is there a way to flash back the stock recovery only since I'm already on stock ROM and kernel?
Big thanks...
I wonder where it puts the update after it downloads it. Would be nice to grab it and maybe install without reverting to stock...
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jasontx said:
I wonder where it puts the update after it downloads it. Would be nice to grab it and maybe install without reverting to stock...
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It goes to data/cache if I remember right. And there will be rooted roms posted within hours of the ota so its really nothing to even worry about
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513263337 said:
I know there are methods out there that can flash the entire phone back to stock (kernel, ROM, recovery) but that involves wiping everything. Is there a way to flash back the stock recovery only since I'm already on stock ROM and kernel?
Big thanks...
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There is a stock recovery posted in the dev section you can flash in Odin
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Found that and it works. Thanks!
you can keep your phone more up to date by flashing roms as opposed to waiting for an OTA. galaxy s4g is still stuck on froyo. Epic 4g just got gingerbread.
Has has anyone received the update?
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jasontx said:
Has has anyone received the update?
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Not yet. I went back to stock last night just in case so I hope its today like Tmobile said
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T-Mobile said today now? Where did they say this?
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T-Mobile said today now? Where did they say this?
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They tweeted it a while back. Today our phone and the amaze are suppose to get an update
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Last I heard it was the 13th, oh well who knows lol
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What is the update supposed to do or fix?
What would happen if I select OK?????
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No, it'll just update you to a newer version of Android
ericcarboni said:
No, it'll just update you to a newer version of Android
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But I have a T989 from T-mobile
Running a custom ROM.
I'm running darkside ucle2
Does it matter?
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romny19 said:
But I have a T989 from T-mobile
Running a custom ROM.
I'm running darkside ucle2
Does it matter?
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Yeah don't take the update. It will cause problems if you're on a custom rom. If you want the OTA update you will have to Odin everything back to stock. Otherwise, if you have titanium then go and freeze device management to prevent that dialogue from coming back up. There's really no reason to take OTA updates because its much easier to just flash a rooted stock rom rather than Odin back to stock.
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yoft1 said:
Yeah don't take the update. It will cause problems if you're on a custom rom. If you want the OTA update you will have to Odin everything back to stock. Otherwise, if you have titanium then go and freeze device management to prevent that dialogue from coming back up. There's really no reason to take OTA updates because its much easier to just flash a rooted stock rom rather than Odin back to stock.
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I think its much better let the devs take our OTA update and prepare it for our phones....
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romny19 said:
I think its much better let the devs take our OTA update and prepare it for our phones....
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Just freeze device management and reboot and you wont get those notifications anymore
i rooted my phone and when i search for software update it says no updates because your phone is modified, i use triangle away and it works but at the same time it don't the only thing that does is searching for updates
Well for starters there is no update.
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once you use triangle away you have to factory reset it to return to stock
There is no update yet.
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And no worries man, usually when there is a firmware update we will get our hands on it and have a ROM set and ready to rock before the download from kies would even finish
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ptmr3 said:
And no worries man, usually when there is a firmware update we will get our hands on it and have a ROM set and ready to rock before the download from kies would even finish
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LMAO!!!! so so so true...
Ive never ran across this problem before with the s2 or 3. Im on the stock injected firmware and want to be able to get updates without having to odin back to stock or flashing a different recovery. How would one go about this? Sorry for thread jacking but figured others will have this question. Thanks.
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knarfies said:
Ive never ran across this problem before with the s2 or 3. Im on the stock injected firmware and want to be able to get updates without having to odin back to stock or flashing a different recovery. How would one go about this? Sorry for thread jacking but figured others will have this question. Thanks.
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The previous answers cover it. I went back to stock on my S 3 for the last official ICS update, but was really a WOT. Don't have to ODIN back to stock unless you want to run on stock.
You would probably see an Odin update (which will install the firmware and and Modem when a simple ROM flash would not) pretty soon after it is OTA'd, and you could use this and not have to have the hassle of going back to stock to get it. If it is not a complete ROM, you will have to be sure you are already updated to the firmware that the OTA would be updating.
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zorritokris said:
i rooted my phone and when i search for software update it says no updates because your phone is modified, i use triangle away and it works but at the same time it don't the only thing that does is searching for updates
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You are clueless. Stop messing with phones, you have no idea what you're doing.
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Rooted my phone, now server tells me updated aren't supported because the phone is modified. I know there probably aren't any updates yet, but still want to know how to get around this just in case there is, thanks!
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You need to odin back to stock.. download the .tar in development section and follow directions. Its easy. You will need this if you ever want to go back to stock or un root for warranty etc
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pezlomd said:
You need to odin back to stock.. download the .tar in development section and follow directions. Its easy. You will need this if you ever want to go back to stock or un root for warranty etc
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Yea that's what I was afraid of, lol. Honest opinion though, is it worth going back to stock this early? I'm sure no updates have been implemented yet right?
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negerhab said:
Yea that's what I was afraid of, lol. Honest opinion though, is it worth going back to stock this early? I'm sure no updates have been implemented yet right?
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Entirely up to you, honestly it isn't that hard to make a backup of all your apps with 'Helium' and restore onto the stock rom, etc. It's the challenge everyone faces when flashing ROMs. I would wait until there's an update and see what changes it brings before reverting. But you will want to download the stock .tar for instances you need to go back to stock.
Is there a way to root the device again and still maintain having all blotware removed? Or will it add back all carrier and third party apps?
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criticalchild said:
Is there a way to root the device again and still maintain having all blotware removed? Or will it add back all carrier and third party apps?
T.i.a
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If you did a nand backup, it will install the bloat again and also with the .tar file unless stated bloat has been removed.
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criticalchild said:
Is there a way to root the device again and still maintain having all blotware removed? Or will it add back all carrier and third party apps?
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All official updates are complete with bloat, the only way is to install the update and remove the bloat afterwards or wait for someone to release a debloated rooted build.
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negerhab said:
Rooted my phone, now server tells me updated aren't supported because the phone is modified. I know there probably aren't any updates yet, but still want to know how to get around this just in case there is, thanks!
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Just wait. When an official update is released a debloated version usually appears on the forums that is prerooted and ready for CWM/TWRP.
I'm also getting the same message. Is it because super user is installed or because of my custom recovery? Or both? If I remove super user will it work? Or would I also need to flash the stock recovery?
I'm still on the stock rom
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jmoak said:
I'm also getting the same message. Is it because super user is installed or because of my custom recovery? Or both? If I remove super user will it work? Or would I also need to flash the stock recovery?
I'm still on the stock rom
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It's because we rooted, but uninstalling it won't reset it because of the ticker, anything installed after the factory condition will show it as custom.
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There is no official stock (yet) so your stuck like that
But if your rooted in the first place why does it matter you can install any firmware/software updates yourself
Official stock is out. Check the general forum.
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It's because we rooted, but uninstalling it won't reset it because of the ticker, anything installed after the factory condition will show it as custom.
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Will the app "[root] Triangle Away" will solve this problem?
for those that needs it to flash ota update, and is currently on MC2 firmware.
enjoy !!!
Thank you pb......
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Will it break my root if I flash this and take my ota?
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npesa92 said:
Will it break my root if I flash this and take my ota?
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Well, if you're feeling up to it, you could test it for the rest of us. No one seems to have reported back about anything yet. I'm sure that it will break root though.
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Will it break my root if I flash this and take my ota?
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i didnt go back and reread it but i think thats what garwynn tried and he lost root.
This is kinda required to get the OTA, isn't it?
If I understand correctly, the OTA will fail if rooted? Or is that it will fail if CWM/TW recovery is in place?
seewhyphotos said:
This is kinda required to get the OTA, isn't it?
If I understand correctly, the OTA will fail if rooted? Or is that it will fail if CWM/TW recovery is in place?
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It will fail if you have cwm or twrp in place.....you need the stock recovery for it.....I think it will work even if you have root, but your root will be lost once you update
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npesa92 said:
It will fail if you have cwm or twrp in place.....you need the stock recovery for it.....I think it will work even if you have root, but your root will be lost once you update
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Thanks.. I thought it was one of those, just couldn't remember which. I may just hold off until I see what others are doing. I am going to look for a nice TouchWiz ROM that allows me to theme it.
Once the awesome Devs here at XDA get their hands on the code, it won't be long before we have a rootable Stock 4.3..
I've been wondering.
Do I need a stock recovery and a stock ROM to update or can I be running a custom ROM such as digiblur and update using stock recovery?
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I've been wondering.
Do I need a stock recovery and a stock ROM to update or can I be running a custom ROM such as digiblur and update using stock recovery?
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I'd just throw that under the "do not attempt" category. Odds are that while trying to apply the update, stock recovery would detect some assets that don't belong in your current build and abort the update. Also, if this update was successful and something messed up, you would now have no custom recovery. You would have to Odin back to whatever software version possible.
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Does anyone have the stock MK4 recovery pulled? If any one has please help a brother out.
do you flash this with twrp or odin? yes i am a newb. i have stock mc2 with twrp not rooted.
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do you flash this with twrp or odin? yes i am a newb. i have stock mc2 with twrp not rooted.
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twrp.....
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