Situation:I've read through most of the HTC Sense roms on our forums and most of them show at least a few problems with missing/broken features. Currently on Virtuous Sense 2.1 which I love since the only thing that bothers me is: the "www./.com" is now a tab, one widget resets the htc sense UI(removed it though), and a small amount of lag. Currently I'm intent on having the latest HTC Sense Rom on my G2.
Question: Is it possible to just flash the stock HTC Sense roms onto the G2 and have it update on its own after I flash and unroot itself?
Question: If not, anyone have an HTC Sense rom available that is stable, full features working, little to no lag, and the procedure is forgiving(as in my G2 won't brick easily if I incorrectly executed a step)?
Notes: I used this procedure for rooting from XDA wiki: (http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD). I really liked it because I failed a couple of times and pulled the battery and it still didn't brick however after I flashed, I wiped the sd card(kept backup files though) and replaced it with a higher capacity sd card.
For sense roms on a G2, you need to have the Desire Z hboot. Which from your description, you must already be having. You can go ahead and flash any rom of your choice.
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Then after I should unroot and let htc sense update itself?
More than likely you will be better off not going stock if you want to keep root access and leave security flags off. If you do go back to stock you will not be able to run anything more advanced then what you have now, stock is still gingerbread and will never be updated past that unless you use a custom rom. There are many sense roms that are pretty good for the vision, almost all are better than stock in some way, I would suggest trying a few out to find what works best for you
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That's just it, I'm tired of going through and flashing roms that are missing features/bugged/slow. Some I like, for instance Gen.Y R3, trickdroid, revolution(all snappy and quick) but they just miss that one feature I need most(eg auto rotate screen or htc locations is broken). Unless someone recommends one that fits the G2 on dzhboot perfectly I'm willing to flash one last time.
Honestly Virtuous Sense 2.1 was probably the best custom rom experience I've had because it had the least problems for my specific needs. It also happened to be the first rom I ever flashed to break my android rooting cherry =P.
Personally, I'm not into a lot of customizing right now, I just want a rom that I am satisfied with and forget about. I'm going back to Virtuous Sense in the meantime while I look for stock HTC sense roms that will update itself so I never have to worry about it again. (anyone know where to find a stock htc sense rom that is going to work on a G2?)
Like I said it won't update it self, htc will never update date this phone again the rom you are using (in my opinion) is better than stock, there are lots of others to try out if you would like, if you want stock that's fine but it will never update past android 2.3.x if you want more features, more stable, better battery life etc... go with a custom rom based off of stock
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Like I said it won't update it self, htc will never update date this phone again the rom you are using (in my opinion) is better than stock, there are lots of others to try out if you would like, if you want stock that's fine but it will never update past android 2.3.x if you want more features, more stable, better battery life etc... go with a custom rom based off of stock
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Thanks, I guess I skimmed over you mentioning the inability to update, alright time to get back on the flashing rom binge, watch me brick
Its real hard to brick your phone just flashing roms, be sure to do a full wipe!
If you need extra help rizzoizzo made a nice tutorial on how to flash roms for beginners, check in the first few pages of general section and be sure to thank him if it helps ya
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Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.
^^^what he said^^^^ +1
Most, if not all people will be waiting for a rooted version. I'll be amazed if people unroot just to get it, when it'll be modded in no time. The test release by udk is a prime example.
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kuailan said:
Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.
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Gingerbread
Agree with the original poster's sentiments. Also worth considering that this could very easily be the last major update for HTC to roll out to the Desire. There's already a newer generation of devices out and HTC have no incentive to keep us at the leading edge. I got a clear taste of this with my previous HTC Magic - dropped by Vodafone like an unwanted toy once they started selling newer devices. Thankfully it was completely unlocked and I could flash all the custom ROMs on that which I liked but since it was a 32B if I had gone official and somehow ended up there I'd have been left behind at 1.6.
I "upgraded" from Hero (which I liked pretty much) to Desire about a month ago, and it's still unrooted. I rooted and installed a custom ROM to my Hero (a couple of weeks before the official 2.1 came out) and I was far from impressed. It became slow and laggy, the available RAM was way below than on the original 1.5 etc. I assume that I should've try other ROMs as well but at a certain point I just got tired so I switched to Desire. I love the way it is. It's fast, responsive and I enjoy all the possibilities of the hardware. I can even impress my iPhone friends with a little smile on my face.
The guy I sold my Hero just updated to the official OTA 2.1 a couple of days ago. Guess what? It's flying! I wouldn't believe it if I couldn't see with my own eyes.
I love what you guys do here. I really do. I'm amazed and impressed with all the work and effort you put in these custom ROMs. I'm reading all the interesting threads, tips, tricks etc. It's good to have a place like this board. It's good to have full control over our handsets, install software others can't. But I kinda like the way HTC puts together and tests its ROMs even if it's bloated with stuff I'll never use. I'll check for updates every hour this weekend Cos I'm eager to try all the new features. Maybe later I'll switch to a custom ROM which is based on the official, but for now I'm focusing on the "Check now" button
even though it hurts to say so.. but I agree
kuailan said:
Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.
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Why would it not possible to root back after unrooting? Since rooting is now riskfree...
What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.
as long as froyo doesn't modify the hboot to a new version, you can always rollback and unroot.
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Why would it not possible to root back after unrooting? Since rooting is now riskfree...
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Because the leaked froyo came with a new HBOOT (which was removed by devs here) which at the moment is unrootable. And may be unrootable forever!
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coercri said:
What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.
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Me too
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coercri said:
What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.
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Agreed, I finally took the plunge to root and A2SD, the latter of which is amazing Is it really too much to ask for, just to install apps on the SD?
I will wait for Froyo Official-based custom ROMS!
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Me too
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That would be perfect..! And wake phone with the select button.
I was near to unroot and and go back to the normal rom. But now not anymore after what u guys said. Thx.
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So if someone buy a HTC desire after the update he may not be able to get root ever. Lucky us!
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I highly doubt no one is ever going to be able to root if they officially upgrade to 2.2. It will happen, it might just take a while that's all for Paul and co. to do it..
I think that all of you that says that the new Hboot could not be hacked, underestimate many very very skilled peoples knowledge. Just because it isn't cracked now, it not equal to *incrackable*.
I am very certain that it will be cracked or something else and then root access can be achieved again.
Hi,
Preferably, I'm looking for a HTC Desire HD ROM or something that has the new HTC Sense on it with APP2SD functionality, It must be Clean Stock (meaning no customization) and must be Stable to use with no or little lag. The Android version should be 2.2 or above and OTA update be operational (not required).
I have stumbled upon some ROMS, that match my specifications, however I want to know your experience with it. Common Bugs, how is it for everyday use? blah blah etc...
- RCMixHD v0.15 1
- DHD Rom Port by baadnwz v1.7c
- ۵.AuraxTSense v8.2 HTC Sense 2.2
- ۵.ReflexTSenseHD v1.5.1 DHD port
- RCS Touch v06
I want to be able to flash a new rom without any fuss, but I do not believe this likely to happen.
Here are my device specs:
Code:
BRAVO PV1 SHIP-ON
HBOOT-0.93.0001
MICROP-01d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-5.11.05.27
-Android 2.2
-T-MOBILE UK - Branded
-Not-Rooted
-4GB Micro SD Card (GoldCard)
Before any tells me to do my research and check the entire forums and says it all depends on your desire, well the whole point of the thread is to give me guidance on what to do next and then summarize your points and experience.
If any more information is require, please tell me so.
Thank you.
Little Bump. No one?
Root
Flash Baadnewz 1.7c
EOD
root read , read again , check the threads of the roms u want to try , download rom , instal and if you like keep it if not repeat from (Check)
regards
baadnewz has to be the quickest most lag free hd rom
Forget hd if you want zero lag just stick to standard Sense or aosp gingerbread.
I've tried Alex V HD which is very good but not zero lag and heard lots of good news about baadnewz.
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DHD Rom Port by baadnwz v1.7c
Root, S-Off then ReflexTSense HD.
This is not only fast, but also beautiful one..
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bharata212 said:
Root, S-Off then ReflexTSense HD.
This is not only fast, but also beautiful one..
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its got a memory leak and is sluggish after time
First of all - root it (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788044).
Second - S-Off (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=805811).
Need help? Search xda and google, google, google!
Then - READ ALOT about the different roms, apps/data2sd, recovery images etc etc and choose the one you like most. Search for youtube videos of the roms you like.
Pay attention - some roms work only with specific radio versions. Most roms require (or at least suggest) performing a full phone wipe (including davlik cache), so don't forget to backup EVERYTHING before you start (including contacts, sms, mms). AND NEVER EVER REBOOT / DISCONNECT CABLE WHEN FLASHING!
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its got a memory leak and is sluggish after time
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I was leaning towards this rom, good job you told me this.
Also, please guys, although I appreciate your guidance I am not new to flashing etc and do not want instructions on 'how to root, flash, S-OFF and S-ON'. If you read my question, all I want is your opinions/views on what ROM is good enough to meet my specifications as well as your experiences. I do not want to keep flashing my phone, that's another reason why this thread was created. And Please no 'SEARCH GOOGLE, XDA FORUMS', and choose what you like. I will research the ROM that I have narrowed down, helped suggested by you guys and then Check if it's good to go. I know some of you will find me arrogant, which is not the case.
Keep your suggestions coming in...
Thank you.
youve picked the roms you want to try , why dont you try them and find out for yourself.
and no i dont find you arrogant more lazy
I'd recommend Baadnwz. I found it to be one of the quickest!
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Most of you guys are suggesting 'badnewz', tell me your experiences with it.
...Or shall I just flash a unbranded Stock ROM and Root and Partition the SD?
Thanks
EDIT: What do you guys think of this ROM 'Ginger Villain 0.8?
I was using gingervillian 0.8 for awhile and found it to be very good, however as only the nexus s is running gingerbread officially, I found there are some apps that I need that won't work.
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Now I'm thinking of flashing to the standard HTC Stock ROM and ROOT+APP2SD...
I'd recommend teppic's stock ROM + updates. Why ? Because the author updates it regularely and has offered lots of optional addons, meaning the ROM is not a "try to please all so im stuffed with all imaginable crap" one.
Hello all,
I like many others, I have installed the new GB ROM from the RUU supplied by HTC and it is "OK". However, i would like something else.
I have seen many guide to install ROMS and it seems more or less clear.
My problem, and maybe the problem for other noobs if the fact that there are so many ROMs out there. It is difficult to know which one to take.
For example, I am looking for plain old stock android 2.3 for the desire. No sense, no extra HTC apps. Just what google would have on the nexus 1. But, I cant figure out which ROM fits that.
Any ideas?
What would be great is sticky which lists the ROMs and their main features for all us noobs. Unless there is one already and I didnt see it
Get Oxygen Rom mate its nice and basic , if u want to go too basic get DevNull
But for starters i think u shud go with oxygen
Pm me if u want to discuss any other details
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I have installed the new GB ROM from the RUU supplied by HTC and it is "OK". However, i would like something else.
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Well, if you installed official Gingerbread 3.14.405.1 RUU, you can't get root (yet). No root means that you can't install custom rom.
pablo_max said:
What would be great is sticky which lists the ROMs and their main features for all us noobs. Unless there is one already and I didnt see it
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Isn't there one already?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328
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watch the video tutorial too - but it sounds like you want an AOSP rom
Yup, you definitely wanna try Oxygen + it was recently updated to Android 2.3.5.
It's sense free, all bloatware removed, very fast & minimalistic.
http://forum.oxygen.im/viewtopic.php?id=149 (it wasn't updated on XDA yet, but you can download it from there)
CyanogenMod7 will also fit you.
Should have read into what you were doing before you updated. You can't root now, which means no custom ROMs for you. HTC updated HBOOT so no more rooting for the time being. You're stuck with it till someone cracks it. Unlucky dude.
My recommendation:
Sense (2.1+3.0) : InsertCoin 1.0.9
AOSP: Oxygen
no MIUI from me...sorry..
Thanks for all the replies. I am pretty sure it is only a matter of days or weeks at most until I can root. I recall the same situation last update.
It sounds like oxygen is the way to go. Once the root is available I will give it a shot. Thanks.
Hello all;
I would like to return to a stock ROM. I don't want to un-root, I just want HTC Sense back. Where can I get a stock ROM or what Sense ROM would you recommend?
Thanks in advance!
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There are a bunch of Sense roms in the dev section. Pretty much anything from Sense 2.1 to 3.5 Take a look and read the user responses
I'm in the same boat as the OP.
Please understand xda vets - someone rooting for the first time is very confused by all these acronyms, version numbers, etc. It's very overwhelming. I looked at the Inc2 dev section and it's like reading Sanskrit. I tried searching but people must use different terminology because my results weren't relevant to my question.
I just received a new Inc2 and all I want is a basic Sense rom that removes all of Verizon's bloatware. The phone has 2.3.3 with Sense 2.1. I'm really just looking for a stable rom. Just want to keep it simple for now.
Can someone recommend one?
I'd like to know as well. With my Droid X I could just SPF with RSD Lite and go back to an official original ROM, unrooted.
I haven't found any info on how to do this with my Incredible 2.
I doubt I would ever want to un-root and go back, but if for some reason I need to return the phone or trade it in, it would be nice to be able to go back to the phone's stock rom, un-rooted.
try Skyraider Zeus is very stable everything works,
Try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1161411
Stock minus bloat.
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Hello,
I know very well on iphone but completely newbie to Android stuffs
I would like to flash a vanilla rom on my HTC X and i also want to ensure I able to flash back my stock rom when I am bore with it.
Would be very much appreciate if anyone able to show some guide.
help
have you unlocked your bootloader and installed recovery?
No, it completely new as just a week old.
Everything still in stock except few apps installed.
You need to go to HTC Dev website and unlock your bootloader first. HTC one x will not be listed, so you will have to use "other supported models" Follow the instructions to unlock your bootloader. Remember, doing this will void your warranty. Once you've unlocked the bootloader, i will guide you installing recovery and help you flashing a ROM.
there are not currently any vanilla (AOSP) roms, except a themed one i believe.
I too am waiting for an AOSP rom (CM9 should be the one) however for sense based roms Android Revolution & Insert Coin One X are both very good roms by some awesome Devs
Hi mgf8384,
Thanks but temporary i will stick with stock.
I have a ROM by Jdroid Its version 2.5.4. Its about as Vanilla as you can get. Its pretty much like stock Ice Cream Sammich thats on the Galaxy Nexus. Much better than Sense. Hopefully this will help.
Cm9 is out for hox and its pretty good its all vanilla no sense at all ) only wifi tethering doesn't work.. do you want me to give you full instructions how to get there from stock and have a back up of stock too ?
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