After toying with jailbreaking/modifying iPhones, taking a Unix/Linux course at a local community college, experimenting with different linux operating systems, and stalking these forums for about the last month, I figured I would purchase myself a "Bricked" Kindle Fire and have at it for funsies. Well, I bit off more than I could chew. I'm stuck as much as the Kindle Fire is at what I think is the boot screeen for the FireFireFire Bootloader. It powers on and loads the Kindle Fire blue logo with a v1.4a in the top corner. Then, selects and deselects "normal boot" "recovery" "reset boot mode" on it's own without ever picking one! I'm not sure what the prior owner did to this thing but I'm assuming they at least attempted to root it. I've tried SoupKit, KFU, Kindle Fire Unbrick Utility, and tried adding the google USB driver for the thing in Windows 8. The worst part of it is that it's not recognized in either Ubuntu (terminal - tried lsusb) or Windows 8. Any help, suggestions, or even comments telling me that I'm dumb for doing this would be much appreciated. Thank you!
Your saying it runs through the bootmenu selections on its own? That`s a new one for me. Have you tried to select one? To get the Driver installed on windows 8 you must disable driver signature verification then install the driver.
It doesn't respond to me trying to select any of the options. It just cycles through each one from top to bottom. Last night I went through the steps to disable driver signatures (posted here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34626361) I was successful in installing the drivers but the computer still does not recognize the device. I was also able to download/extract the Android SDK to my computer. I ran ADB and it showed the driver was installed. I believe ADB should recognize the device?
There are two methods on that page which one did you use? The one in post #8 will work but I just simply hold shift then click restart then follow the rest of the instructions to disable it. If its in fastboot adb will not recognize it but I bet your shell is corrupted as well when you select recovery it should go there unless your recovery is broken.
I followed the instructions on #8. Additionally, the LED on the power button does not power on. I don't know if that's any indication of anything or not.
When you plug it to the pc or the wall charger? To the pc isn't that strange could be the cable itself, to the wall might raise an eyebrow to early to tell. Im gonna send you a pm.
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I followed the instructions on #8. Additionally, the LED on the power button does not power on. I don't know if that's any indication of anything or not.
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It looks like you need to replace the bootloader...probably via usbboot.
Arrrgh The dreaded broken bootloader time to work a little firekit.
I did try a few of pokey9000's firekit options in SoupKit but to no avail. I am a bit confused as to where I need to place my metal object to "short the point" as I couldn't find any threads with pictures. I will continue to reasearch/apply usbboot and return to you with my findings. I really appreciate the help both of you have given me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19762674&postcount=51 this is the test point there is a small metal frame surrounding it . Start the script when it says waiting for omap44xx contact the test point and just as you lean whatever you are using to short against the small metal frame and plug in the usb at the same moment. Keep it shorted till the script runs through 4 stages. The script you need to run is the usb fix parts install fff and twrp. It is best to brace the kindle against something so it does not slip as your trying to perform this maneuver. Caution not to contact anything but the test point and the metal frame to prevent permanent hardware damage.
I used a modified safety pin, used the correct option in firekit, and followed your directions, but it didn't seem to do anything. I can tell that the prior owner(s) had tried this before as the area I am to place the pin looks a bit scratched. On another note, I had to boot my windows partition to get something off of there late last night and I left the device plugged in. Surprisingly, this morning the device was showing up in the system tray as "kindle." I was curious and looked at the properties and it's showing the drivers are working and that it's an "Android phone." I don't know if this is a good indication of anything or not.
When you exspand android phone in device manager what does it say? Shift+right click on the tools folder select open command window here
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adb shell
see what you get.
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When you exspand android phone in device manager what does it say? Shift+right click on the tools folder select open command window here
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adb shell
see what you get.
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"Android Phone" expanded in Device Manager shows "Android Phone ADB Interface." When I try the command you suggested it says, "error: device not found."
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UPDATE: I added "solved" to the title since I am now unbricked. That said, I do hope someone will pop in and tell me how to run the shell scripts on a mac...
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Hi there. I have spent several days searching xda forums, popping into the kindlefire irc channel, and searching google however have not yet figured this out, could use some help.
I have read: the Kindle Fire Beginners Guide, the Kindle Fire Unbrick thread, The Kindle Fire Utility thread (yup the whole thing), and more.
According to the Kindle Fire Beginner's Guide, only 1% of all brick situations are actually a brick, so I'm going to persevere and go ahead and ask for the help, because also according to the guide, if your fire can't be seen as a device then actually it's a brick. To quote: " unless something else was done to the device after the change in bootmode preventing access to adb or fastboot commands. Then it’s actually a brick at that point."
I can't be sure if anything else was done after the change in bootmode so I'll just explain how I got here and hopefully someone can help out.
I have a mac mini running Os x 10.6.8, and the Kindle Fire which was running stock version 6.2.2.
I used the kindlewater root method to install firefirefire and cwm recovery. Was able to boot into recovery by pressing on the power button for it to go orange and then load the recovery options.
Before doing anything at all (and in consultation with St3p_2 of this forum, one of the kindlewater developers), I decided to perform a backup in preparation for flashing a ROM.
so, I booted, went into recovery, navigated to "install a .zip" and chose "backup" at which point I got a message/nag/reminder that this was a permanent change, and I selected "ok". It did it's thing for a while, went into reboot, and I then had the firefirefire logo blinking in a very very slow loop.
It was recommended to me to perform a factory reset by holding the power button for 2 solid minutes, which should then have returned me to stock. Actually, the first time i did it for minutes I went from having a very slow blinking firefirefire to having a rather fast blinking firefirefire. Following a suggestion i then tried it with the kindlefire unplugged. This resulted in a plain black screen until the fire was plugged in again: no boot, no indication of response to use of the power button. Once plugged in, it has gone back to the rather fast blinking firefirefire logo.
I read through the Kindle Fire Utility thread, found the v0.9.2 version prepared for mac and linux, and downloaded it. Although I am not new to terminal, I am not familiar with what command language is necessary to perform the actions required by this tool. If I open the install_drivers.sh with terminal, i get this:
Reverie:~ apple$ /kindlefire/Kindle_Fire_Utility_MacLinux_0.9-1.2/install_drivers.sh ; exit;
This file will install the correct adb_usb.ini file for proper Kindle Fire detection.
cp: drivers/adb_usb.ini: No such file or directory
Done!
logout
[Process completed]
so I tried running it in the console. I will spare you the output of the console as it appeared to be merely a printout of the actual code of the file and was quite long.
Trying to run the file runme.sh in terminal before running the install_drivers.sh in the console, I got error messages stating there is no such command, or no such file, depending on my command language.
After running the install_drivers.sh in the console, when I try to run runme.sh in terminal, i get this:
/kindlefire/runme.sh ; exit;
Reverie:~ apple$ /kindlefire/runme.sh ; exit;
---------------------------------------------------------------
Easy rooting toolkit (v1.0)
created by DooMLoRD
using exploit zergRush (Revolutionary Team)
Credits go to all those involved in making this possible!
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[*] This script will:
(1) root ur device using zergRush exploit
(2) install Busybox (1.18.4)
(3) install SU files (3.0.5)
[*] Before u begin:
(1) make sure adb is in your path
(2) enable "USB DEBUGGING"
from (Menu\Settings\Applications\Development)
(3) enable "UNKNOWN SOURCES"
from (Menu\Settings\Applications)
(4) [OPTIONAL] increase screen timeout to 10 minutes
(5) connect USB cable to PHONE and then connect to PC
(6) skip "PC Companion Software" prompt on device
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CONFIRM ALL THE ABOVE THEN
Press any key to continue... --- STARTING ----
--- WAITING FOR DEVICE
Which I affirmed because all the requirements had indeed been set that way on the device before the bricking happened. After "starting" and "waiting for device" nothing happens even waiting indefinitely (more than half an hour) and then it never finds the device.
When I go into terminal and type: "adb devices" I get:
Last login: Sun Mar 18 17:08:38 on ttys001
Reverie:~ apple$ adb devices
List of devices attached
Reverie:~ apple$
This result is the same both before attempting to use the 0.9.2 mac utility and after.
I really am stuck at this point, as everything I find with instructions on how to "unbrick" does require that the machine recognize that your kindlefire is attached. Running any of the tools I find requires that basic bottom dollar, which I don't seem to have.
That said, the behavior of "nothing at all: blank screen" when unplugged, and the behavior of "blinking firefirefire logo" when plugged in would tend to indicate that at the very least the device knows it's plugged in and getting juice, and some process is happening when that's true.
Can someone help? Is my next step to purchase a factory cable, or do I have a software solution available to me that I just didn't find in this haystack of solutions?
nothing doing when unplugged seems like a dead battery
would try to charge it with the wall charger for some hours regardless if the orange light comes up - this can last a while
furthermore i don't know which version of kfu for mac you'r using but zergrush is'nt working any more since stock rom 0.6.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21369040&postcount=653
for rooting use kindlewater:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1443071
as far as i know the commands need to be entered with a ./ in front ie: ./install_drivers.sh
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Can someone help? Is my next step to purchase a factory cable, or do I have a software solution available to me that I just didn't find in this haystack of solutions?
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Thanks for reading my guide. I hope it helped you a bit.
Mac OS X is also my primary OS and I take my hat off to you for even trying things this way. I took the easy way out from the very beginning and just used Parallels Desktop to build Windows and Linux virtual machines. If things ultimately don't work out, you might want to try going that route as well. I believe Parallels offers a demo version if you want to see it in action. Regardless, I don't think that matters quite yet, because I tend to agree with b63 here. I think the biggest problem you have right now is a dead battery.
I've never had a dead battery, so I can't comment directly, but take a look at this thread, starting at post #226...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392693&page=23
There some back and forth for a couple of pages, but that user describes symptoms that sound very much like what you are seeing right now. I think you should try the wall charger first. Plug it in, force the Kindle Fire to turn off and just try to let it charge overnight or something. If you cannot get your KF charged with the stock wall charger, you might want to buy a factory cable. From what I gather, that user reported that his Kindle Fire booted into fastboot mode by using the factory cable even with a (nearly) dead battery. He was then able to flash the stock software, which is able to handle the dead battery situation better than some alternative ROM and have it go through the charge cycle.
Wow... so simple...
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nothing doing when unplugged seems like a dead battery
would try to charge it with the wall charger for some hours regardless if the orange light comes up - this can last a while
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This was the deal. When plugged in with the usb cord it didn't seem to be giving it power and being powerless could not be recognized by the computer. Plugged it into the wall charger and Voila! was able to start up just fine, still rooted via the kindlewater method, capable of being booted normally or booted into CWM recovery. Awesome!
I also did a quick double-check, and now that it's powered-up, running a terminal and typing "adb devices" actually returns a list with the kindle (serial number?) on it.
furthermore i don't know which version of kfu for mac you'r using but zergrush is'nt working any more since stock rom 0.6.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21369040&postcount=653
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I read through everything and the version of kfu that was modded for mac was 0.9.2 which I mentioned in my original post. Sounds like since I was on 6.2.2 that mac version is definitely not going to help me (both kfu out of date and stock version out of date on zergrush) if I were to want it for rooting purposes.
for rooting use kindlewater:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1443071
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that is the one i used. I was looking for a mac tool for post-root rescue methods...i had thought that the kfu mac version had valuable rescue/unbrick capabilities but at this point I don't remember.
as far as i know the commands need to be entered with a ./ in front ie: ./install_drivers.sh
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Thankfully, I don't need to try that. my kf got properly unbricked just by plugging it into the wall charger.
Great guide, it was the battery
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Thanks for reading my guide. I hope it helped you a bit.
Mac OS X is also my primary OS and I take my hat off to you for even trying things this way. I took the easy way out from the very beginning and just used Parallels Desktop to build Windows and Linux virtual machines. If things ultimately don't work out, you might want to try going that route as well. I believe Parallels offers a demo version if you want to see it in action. Regardless, I don't think that matters quite yet, because I tend to agree with b63 here. I think the biggest problem you have right now is a dead battery.
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Thank you for your guide. I thought it was extremely well written and very helpful. It definitely helped me relax a little stress-wise while looking for a solution.
That was it (dead battery). I did try meddling around a bit with virtualbox virtual machines: a windows 7 ultimate, and a linux box that I have that does not have internet access making doing anything realtime while reading suggestions just isnt easy/feasible right now. I found that the virtualbox vms did not have access to the usb devices (flash drives, external hard drives, ostensibly if it were visible to the computer the kindle) despite my installing some optional extension packs for that purpose. I didn't explore the vms further to linux or xp simply because of the time required to install and configure a vm. I also didn't rewire my home so net access went to the linux box for the same reason... ultimately both are possible but both more hassle than it seems to be worth before simply asking the question, can it be done on a mac?
I've never had a dead battery, so I can't comment directly, but take a look at this thread, starting at post #226...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392693&page=23
There some back and forth for a couple of pages, but that user describes symptoms that sound very much like what you are seeing right now. I think you should try the wall charger first. Plug it in, force the Kindle Fire to turn off and just try to let it charge overnight or something. If you cannot get your KF charged with the stock wall charger, you might want to buy a factory cable. From what I gather, that user reported that his Kindle Fire booted into fastboot mode by using the factory cable even with a (nearly) dead battery. He was then able to flash the stock software, which is able to handle the dead battery situation better than some alternative ROM and have it go through the charge cycle.
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I'm just so glad this worked. Thank you for your help!
glad to help ...
please mark the subject of the topic (edit first post) with [Solved]
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My KF is seeming to have a similar but distinctly different issue as the OP. Because I can turn on the KF without it being plugged in, I cannot imagine that it is a battery issue.
When I plug it in to a Windows machine, the FFF bootloader comes on, the KF seems to connect, be recognized, fail at driver installation (which I have done manually, with no success), and then disconnect. This prevents me from running any sort of commands.
When I connect to my Mac, I get the FFF bootloader and then no response whatsoever.
Trying to run commands from Terminal or the Command line or using KFU on my Windows machine all result in a "waiting for device" message.
Not sure what I should do from this point to get it back to accepting adb commands. I'm confident that once I do I'll be able to save it, but at this point I'm stuck.
Any ideas?
A few of you know me already from my thread where I asked a million questions before attempting to install a custom ROM on my new KF. Well, it still went completely south somehow, so here I am.
So, I'm stuck with the stock Kindle Fire logo on the screen, and and can't get it to go anywhere.
Here's what I did:
Downloaded KFU, installed the drivers, plugged in the Kindle,and ran KFU. ADB status online, boot status 4000.....so everything seemed good, from what I've learned. Also looked in Device manager, and it showed up as Android phone, or whatever it's supposed to say. I figure I'm good to go.
My plan is to install TWRP,FFF, and root it, then boot into TWRP, and flash the ROM. The first thing I did(and it seems wrong now) was try to install FFF, instead of TWRP. I think that's the wrong order, but not totally sure if it matters, but it's my assumption that it does.
So, as soon as I sent the command, for some reason, my computer got this blue screen with some message that I didn't have time to read, because it restarted right after. It still said everything looked good, so I tried again to install FFF. I think the "crash" was just coincidental, because it didn't act like that the second time, but whatever.
Anyway.......said it was installing FFF, and then it went to <waiting for device>
I figured ...ok...need to wait.
After about 10 minutes of waiting, I held the power button down until it turned off, then turned it back on, because someone said that's what you should do if this happens. Well, essentially.....since then, I've not seen anything but the Kindle Fire logo on the screen, and it feels like I've tried everything. A forum member spent some time on the phone with me, and we tried everything he knew.....no luck.
At one point, someone told me to uninstall the drivers and reinstall them, which I did, but upon reinstalling them, nothing changed, and the computer no longer even recognizes it being plugged in as a USB device, the drivers don't show now in device manager, even though I told KFU to reinstall them. To me that's weird, and seems like a major problem, because the computer isn't "seeing" the device, but that's mu humble opinion. I'm at a total loss, and would sure appreciate some help bringing this thing back.
Thanks....immensely, in advance!
Make sure you reboot your computer. Also if you can, switch USB ports. Pay attention to your device manager when doing so. Trying on a different computer can also be helpful.
If nothing you do results in any change, it's time to give up on Windows and create a Linux LiveUSB. Linux is extremely stable and pretty easy to set up and send adb/fastboot commands with. If you do decide to take that route, Ubuntu is pretty much the standard and version10.4 generally works better than later versions.
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Make sure you reboot your computer. Also if you can, switch USB ports. Pay attention to your device manager when doing so. Trying on a different computer can also be helpful.
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I rebooted, switched ports, and it didn't seem to change. The computer didn't even recognize it being plugged in. I just plugged in a flash drive, just for fun, and got the message that USB device was detected, so it's not the computer....to me anyway. Also tried plugging the Kindle into my wife's older Dell, and it gave me a message that a USB device connected to the computer wasn't working properly.
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I rebooted, switched ports, and it didn't seem to change. The computer didn't even recognize it being plugged in. I just plugged in a flash drive, just for fun, and got the message that USB device was detected, so it's not the computer....to me anyway. Also tried plugging the Kindle into my wife's older Dell, and it gave me a message that a USB device connected to the computer wasn't working properly.
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Use the KFU on the laptop to install the drivers and see if that makes a difference.
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Use the KFU on the laptop to install the drivers and see if that makes a difference.
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The older Dell is a desktop, is that what you meant? Just try installing drivers via KFU from there?
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The older Dell is a desktop, is that what you meant? Just try installing drivers via KFU from there?
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Yeah, that's what I meant.
Why Windows fails to install/load the drivers for fastboot is really a mystery to me. It obviously has the adb part of it working or you wouldn't be in fastboot in the first place.
You need to provide details on exactly what's going on when Windows attempts to load drivers.
Turn up the sound volume on your computer. With the device connected to your PC, turn it (the Kindle Fire) off and back on. When the device puts itself into fastboot, Windows will provide a series of two tones.
low->high means it's connecting
high->low means it's disconnecting.
If you get the low->high tones without the high->low tones following them up, you should be seeing SOMETHING change in the device manager. Don't gloss over the details with "Android phone whatever" but report what you see. The device drivers post in the beginner's guide has details on what should appear in the device manager.
EDIT: Also do this...
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315539
Even with the device disconnected, you should see 4 devices under "Android Phone" if you've managed to get those device drivers installed from KFU.
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Why Windows fails to install/load the drivers for fastboot is really a mystery to me. It obviously has the adb part of it working or you wouldn't be in fastboot in the first place.
You need to provide details on exactly what's going on when Windows attempts to load drivers.
Turn up the sound volume on your computer. With the device connected to your PC, turn it (the Kindle Fire) off and back on. When the device puts itself into fastboot, Windows will provide a series of two tones.
low->high means it's connecting
high->low means it's disconnecting.
If you get the low->high tones without the high->low tones following them up, you should be seeing SOMETHING change in the device manager. Don't gloss over the details with "Android phone whatever" but report what you see. The device drivers post in the beginner's guide has details on what should appear in the device manager.
EDIT: Also do this...
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315539
Even with the device disconnected, you should see 4 devices under "Android Phone" if you've managed to get those device drivers installed from KFU.
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I just did exactly what you said......plugged it in, turned it off. Turned volume all the way up, turned it on....no sound of any kind.
The weird part is when I first installed the drivers, I checked it by plugging the device in, and had adb status online, staus 4000, plus I went to the device manager, and I remember two things that said android phone. One said android phone, and the other said android something or other. And, it was seeing the device and everything seemed hunky dory, and I guess at that time it was???
I did uninstall and reinstall the drivers via KFU, and it says it's installing them, but never again have I seen anything in device manger that says Android anything. That is just wrong to me.
Personally I think you're spinning your wheels with Windows and causing yourself more headache than needed.
Create a bootable Linux LiveUSB on a thumb drive with Ubuntu 10.4 and get Android-SDK installed on it.
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I'm starting to think you've killed your bootloader or got a bad flash when your machine crashed. This is why I suggested you flash your recovery first, because you can still fix that through the bootloader if a recovery flash goes wrong.
In any case, I think soupmagnet is right... FireKit is probably the next thing you should try if Windows won't even recognize the device being there. If on top of that, I'm right about your bootloader, you're going to have to crack your case open and put it into USB boot mode because Firekit won't be able to fix that on its own.
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I'm starting to think you've killed your bootloader or got a bad flash when your machine crashed. This is why I suggested you flash your recovery first.
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Trust me.....I realized not too long after that I had done the wrong order. I even had a note to myself right here that said:
TWRP
FFF
Root
For the life of me, I don't know why I did FFF first.
All the questions I asked, and as anal retentive as I am, I totally screwed that part up, which may be the entire problem. Trust me.......I'm pissed.
You should at the very least, set up the Android-SDK on your LinuxUSB and check to see if it's just a driver issue you're dealing with. Linux handles the drivers for Android devices much better, and in most cases, easier than with Windows.
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I'm starting to think you've killed your bootloader or got a bad flash when your machine crashed. This is why I suggested you flash your recovery first, because you can still fix that through the bootloader if a recovery flash goes wrong.
In any case, I think soupmagnet is right... FireKit is probably the next thing you should try if Windows won't even recognize the device being there. If on top of that, I'm right about your bootloader, you're going to have to crack your case open and put it into USB boot mode because Firekit won't be able to fix that on its own.
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Can I ask what Firekit is?
Firekit is a tool used to fix major problems easily. I would use it as a last resort because there isn't a command for just installing TWRP without the bootloader.. Get your Android-SDK installed and I'll help you with the drivers and platform-tools install.
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You should at the very least, set up the Android-SDK on your LinuxUSB and check to see if it's just a driver issue you're dealing with. Linux handles the drivers for Android devices much better, and in most cases, easier than with Windows.
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I'll just be honest and tell you that I have no idea what you're talking about. I don't mean that in a bad way.......I'm not some computer whiz that speaks the same language as a lot of you. Right now I wish I had left the freakin thing alone with Go Launcher Ex and called it a day. I'm really pissed off right now....that's not your fault.
I don't suppose that Factory Cable will do anything for this situation, correct? The guy said he will send it ASAP FWIW.
Had to ask.
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Get your Android-SDK installed and I'll help you with the drivers and platform-tools install.
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Can you kindly tell me how I get to the point you're speaking of?
Sorry....this stuff is foreign language to me.
Do I have to install ubuntu on my computer?
Take a breath...relax. We'll walk you through it.
Get a thumb drive w/approximately 1Gb of storage and create a bootable LiveUSB.
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Take a breath...relax. We'll walk you through it.
Get a thumb drive w/approximately 1Gb of storage and create a bootable LiveUSB.
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Should I trust this method?
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_and_use_Live_USB
I know NOTHING about this.
EDIT: Never mind.......that's another OS......damnit!
Can't I just play dumb, and send it back? I hate to say that, but.....
I guess this is it
http://www.linuxliveusb.com/en/download
^See.......trying as hard as I can to keep a good attitude.
That will work. Download Ubuntu 10.4
Alright folks, I would like to start off with a little introduction:
I'm extremely new to the rooting scene, i've been jailbreaking iphones and ipods since day one. That being said, I probably should have spent more time researching this technique before I went through with it.
Fast forward to today:
I tried rooting my device awhile back, wasn't a 100% successful and I really didn't have the time to work it out. I did have FFF installed and the next window (which i'm not exactly sure what it's called, which allowed me to boot in various moods and such)
Earlier today I got stuck in a boot loop, where my kindle would turn off as soon as i restarted it, and after i selected normal boot mode. I decided it would be a good idea to try a different boot option, so i tried the FF boot, which completely ruined my day.
My current situation is as follows:
I'm currently stuck on the first FFF screen (yellow triangle, with the green light on), i can do nothing else from that screen except hard (cold) reboots. When i plug my kindle in (Mac, windows 7, windows XP), the device is not recognized and i get zero response. I've tried a decent amount of suggestions on this forum, including Kindle fire unbrick (Which can somehow see that there adb is installed, but the bootmode is unknown)
Help out of this current situation would be wonderful. I'm really in a jam here.
Sounds like you are stuck in fastboot and you might have a dead battery too.
You should read this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552547
1st post for background information, 2nd post for making sure your device drivers are loading/working, and the 3rd post for fastboot and adb commands. You'll probably need to use fastboot to change the bootmode back to normal.
This one...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623244
address dead battery problems. You might be affect this by this one as well.
Thanks for the reply,
I read pieces of the first one before I posted on this thread. The KF was 100% charged and i only used it for about 15mins before the whole crashing problem occurred, so i highly doubt it's a low battery issue.
The screen that i'm stuck on is actually the recovery screen. After reading the article in it's entirety, i'm still not exactly sure what to do. My problem is that i cannot get my kindle fire to be recognized as any type of USB device on any type of computer. Wouldn't that issue need to be addressed before i can go about doing anything else? Or will drivers see what my computer think is not there?
B4CKlash said:
Thanks for the reply,
I read pieces of the first one before I posted on this thread. The KF was 100% charged and i only used it for about 15mins before the whole crashing problem occurred, so i highly doubt it's a low battery issue.
The screen that i'm stuck on is actually the recovery screen. After reading the article in it's entirety, i'm still not exactly sure what to do. My problem is that i cannot get my kindle fire to be recognized as any type of USB device on any type of computer. Wouldn't that issue need to be addressed before i can go about doing anything else? Or will drivers see what my computer think is not there?
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What do you mean by recovery screen? Because your first post said FFF and that's your bootloader. If the yellow triangle boot logo comes up and that's all that the display does (doesn't go black and redisplay the boot logo), then it's in fastboot mode. Windows should give you an indication that it's connecting with a series of 2 connection beeps (low->high tone) without a following set of disconnect beeps (high->low tone). The device manager will show something new in the list (this is covered in post #2 in the first URL I pasted for you).
Yes, you need to get something to get recognized by your computer then you need to install the proper drivers for it. Look at post #2 again, and see if you can figure out what device is appearing in the list and get the drivers loaded for it. If you get absolutely nothing, there's something wrong with the bootloader, your USB cable, USB port, or computer in general and it's a bigger problem.
If nothing happens on your computer, find another one and hook it up there. You might also look at this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1430038
and see if Linux can help you.
I'm sorry, I was mistaken. I am stuck in Fastboot mode, The one with the yellow triangle. I get zero indication from Windows device manager list, or beeps (same on my mac). I have tried 3 different cables, so i highly doubt that's the problem either.
My next step is the linux distro, which i will get back to you with when I get everything installed. My only concern is that the linux distribution isn't going to recognize the USB either (seeing as 2 other operating systems haven't) and that there's something inherently wrong with my kindle. In which case i'm ****ed? or is there any chance that amazon will take it back?
B4CKlash said:
I'm sorry, I was mistaken. I am stuck in Fastboot mode, The one with the yellow triangle. I get zero indication from Windows device manager list, or beeps (same on my mac). I have tried 3 different cables, so i highly doubt that's the problem either.
My next step is the linux distro, which i will get back to you with when I get everything installed. My only concern is that the linux distribution isn't going to recognize the USB either (seeing as 2 other operating systems haven't) and that there's something inherently wrong with my kindle. In which case i'm ****ed? or is there any chance that amazon will take it back?
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Windows will be the only one that of the three that will beep at you. There's a better chance of you getting something done with Linux, but it's starting to sound like a bootloader problem to me. There's another user with a similar problem to yours and he's basically where you are now. Both of you might have to open up the case and get it to USB boot mode where you can upload a bootloader to it through USB. Try Firekit and see if it gets anywhere.
I am having a serious problem with my Kindle Fire, I am worried that it has bricked. For the past month ive been trying to fix it and nothing ever worked out. What happened was I tried to root my kindle using Kindle Fire Utility, and everything seemed fine at first. I turned my Kindle on and everything was normal, then I turned it on again and all it does is flash on and off at the screen with a yellow triangle with a flame in the middle of the triangle and it says "press power button for recovery." The kindle does not respond to anything and it will not turn on unless connected to the computer and it will not turn off until i disconnect it. My computer also does not recognize my Kindle.
Kindle Fire Utility says to just switch it to normal mode by going the "fastboot menu" and simply switching it. But when i do the program just sits at the screen saying "waiting for device" and I think its because my computer simply will not recognize it.
Others have said to go in the command prompt and type "adb shell" but that wont work either. It says something like "adb is not recognizable as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. So i have no idea what to do there.
I never installed TWRP so i tried tonight, and I downloaded the image and i did what it tells me to do in the command prompt, but once again it would not me recognizable as an internal or external command.
Im all out of ideas and have not found a single person with the same problem as me and I need any help I can get from anyone. I GREATLY APPRECIATE ANYTHING!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623244
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552547
Charged
Well I charged my Kindle overnight and it is staying on and i can turn it on and off whenever, i connected it to my computer and the computer found it but it couldnt find any drivers for the Kindle and it sort of ignores the Kindle. The Kindle fire utility still says "waiting for device" and when i try to install drivers from the Kindle fire Utility folder it tells me "There was no driver found for this machine" What should i do now?
Read this first...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23747567
Have you tryed holding the power button down for like 20 seconds to power it completely off then powering it back on?
Read it
I read the page and they said I can reverse it with SDK, or KFU. Ive tried with Kindle Fire Utility but how do i do it with SDK??
Thepooch said:
Have you tryed holding the power button down for like 20 seconds to power it completely off then powering it back on?
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Yes ive tried and it continues to do the same thing
I'm a little confused about the reverse it idea but the drivers were there before why aren't they now? If your referring to going through the process to set a the proper environment you need Java development kit then open the sdk manager and download tools and 2.3 platform and the Google driver this is a lot of excess bulk that may not be needed try using system restore to roll your computer back to a date before you messed with the driver's. Download a fresh copy of kfu rerun the driver without your kindle plugged in then see what you get.
SDK will let you do the same thing KFU does, only manually. If you can't get KFU to work, the SDK probably won't help.
In order for either to work, you need to make sure your drivers are in order.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23747671&postcount=2
The yellow triangle your looking at is the bootloader which isn't bad but the fact that you don't have twrp installed and can't get past it and your computer either doesn't recognize or will not communicate with the device is bad. Your driver's must be functioning to make it past this via adb.
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The yellow triangle your looking at is the bootloader which isn't bad but the fact that you don't have twrp installed and can't get past it and your computer either doesn't recognize or will not communicate with the device is bad. Your driver's must be functioning to make it past this via adb.
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Could I do it on a different computer then?
Many people have had success with that, yes.
Unsigned drivers
Well i tried on the new computer and it wouldnt let me download the drivers but i found out about changing the unsigned driver settings on my original computer but i have windows vista on the original one and windows XP on the other, the Windows XP computer was easy to see the unsigned driver setting(which didnt work out) but i cnat find it on the vista. Where is it located?
I also tried the code: bcdedit.exe -set loadoptions DDISABLE_INTEGRITY_CHECKS
The cmd told me that my access was denied
soccerman9 said:
Well i tried on the new computer and it wouldnt let me download the drivers but i found out about changing the unsigned driver settings on my original computer but i have windows vista on the original one and windows XP on the other, the Windows XP computer was easy to see the unsigned driver setting(which didnt work out) but i cnat find it on the vista. Where is it located?
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http://www.google.com/search?mmns=0...action=devloc&q=disable+unsigned+driver+vista
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http://www.google.com/search?mmns=0...action=devloc&q=disable+unsigned+driver+vista
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It says i gotta choose a device/file, what file would it be? would it be the "install_drivers" in the kfu?
There should be two files:
android_winusb.inf & adb_usb.ini
...both are somewhere in the KFU/drivers folder
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There should be two files:
android_winusb.inf & adb_usb.ini
...both are somewhere in the KFU/drivers folder
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I found the adb_usb but there two of the other, they are called
androidwinusb86
&
androidwinusba64
Does it matter which one i choose?
Well i got the Google Usb driver installed, but the problem still remains where my kindle is connected and my computer says its finding a driver for it, but then my Kindle disconnects too fast and the computer cannot find any drivers because "the device was unplugged." I noticed that when i start the kindle while its connected the power button light is green, and thats when my computer sees the Kindle, but then the light turns orange and then the computer loses it. What should i do now?
That seems to be a typical problem with Vista. I'm not sure what causes it, but it would probably be beneficial for you to try a different computer, if you have one available.
Good evening all. Here I am, another nOOb who ended up getting his Kindle Fire stuck in fastboot mode. I've read through the forums for about a week and a half and tried to apply some of the suggestions with no luck. I'm using a 32bit Windows 7 Home Premium desk top computer and am using the KFU 0.9.6. The Kindle fire is in stock mode stuck at the white and yellow boot logo. My computer recognizes the Kindle Fire as an Andriod Phone>Android ADB Interface but I have the yellow exclamation and in the properties it reports a code 10 error. (see attachment 1.) I tried uninstalling and re-installing the driver's by the cut and paste below. post #2 again with no luck.
If the Kindle Fire comes up as a different device or you get a "Code 10" error, you'll have to explicitly tell Windows what driver you expect to see for the device. The steps below are for Windows 7, but they should be very similar for earlier versions of Windows as well. The following may have to be performed twice, once for normal mode and again for fastboot mode. The steps below are listed for normal mode (and the fastboot equivalent in parentheses). Be sure to have tried installing the drivers using the batch file at least once or you will not be able to complete the process.
*Connect the Kindle Fire in normal mode (fastboot mode) to the computer
*In the Device Manager, right click on the device and select "Uninstall"
*Check the "Delete the driver software for this device." box and press "OK"
*Disconnect the Kindle Fire, reconnect and reboot in normal mode (fastboot mode)
*The Device Manager should show "Other devices -> Kindle" ("Other devices -> kindle")
*Right click on "Kindle" ("kindle") and select "Update Driver Software..."
*Select "Browse my computer for driver software"
*Do not click the "Next" button, but select "Let me pick from a list of device drivers on my computer"
*Select "Android Phone" and then press the "Next" button
*Press the "Have Disk..." button
*Click the "Browse..." button, point it to the "C:\kfu\drivers\kindle" directory and press "Open"
*Press the "OK" button
*Uncheck the "Show compatible hardware" checkbox
*Select "Android Composite ADB Interface" ("Android ADB Interface") and press the "Next" button
*Select "Install this driver software anyway"
*Press the "Close" button
The device should now appear in the Device Manager.
I tried this suggestion post #4 thinking it was the closest to my current situation again with no luck. The command prompt window hangs up at the waiting for device.. forever. I tried the suggestion with a regular USB cable and a factory cable (Thank you SkOrPn) with same results. KFU shows the device ADB Status as offline and Boot status as unknown (see attachment 2.)
If anyone has any suggestions I'm all ears. If any further information is needed just ask and I'll do my best to supply it.
Thank you in advance for any and all help
Mike Shipman
sabres032
Okay try this method. Plug your kindle in, use kfu to set the bootmode to normal, when it hangs <waiting for device> hold the power button down while connected till it powers off, then simply power it back on and wait bootmode change doesn't happen immediately. Rinse and repeat till you're successful. If your trouble persists due to driver issues consider trying soupkit http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1850038 .
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Okay try this method. Plug your kindle in, use kfu to set the bootmode to normal, when it hangs <waiting for device> hold the power button down while connected till it powers off, then simply power it back on and wait bootmode change doesn't happen immediately. Rinse and repeat till you're successful. If your trouble persists due to driver issues consider trying soupkit http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1850038 .
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Thank you for the suggestion. Should I use a normal USB cable or the Factory Cable?
A normal one. A factory cable is intended to stick you in fastboot you're already there
Thepooch said:
Okay try this method. Plug your kindle in, use kfu to set the bootmode to normal, when it hangs <waiting for device> hold the power button down while connected till it powers off, then simply power it back on and wait bootmode change doesn't happen immediately. Rinse and repeat till you're successful. If your trouble persists due to driver issues consider trying soupkit http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1850038 .
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OK So I've tried your suggestion of using KFU to set boot mode to normal, and rebooting the Kindle (after sufficient time, like 30 minutes) and still nothing. I've also tried to uninstall and re-install the drivers as noted in the OP, and every time the driver's install I still get the code 10 error. Would a broke bootloader or not being in fastboot be the cause of this? I'm sure there is an easy way to get the driver's to install properly but, so far it's escaping me. YEs I have spent more than two weeks searching the forums and trying others suggestions.
I know Window's can be very temperamental but I'd like to avoid using soup kit since it's Linux based and I know nothing of Linux. I only have one computer and if I screw it up I will have to waste even more time reloading windows and configuring.
I'm open to just about any other suggestion right now.
**EDIT** Also not sure if this means anything the C:\User\.android folder is empty. ISn't there supposed to be an .inf or configuration file in there?
**EDIT** Also not sure if this means anything the C:\User\.android folder is empty. ISn't there supposed to be an .inf or configuration file in there?
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yep you can get it from the drivers folder in kfu and put it in there it`ts the adb_usb.ini if you open it with notepad it has this inside 0x1949. When your having driver issues soupkit is the way to go unless adding that file does it for you.
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yep you can get it from the drivers folder in kfu and put it in there it`ts the adb_usb.ini if you open it with notepad it has this inside 0x1949. When your having driver issues soupkit is the way to go unless adding that file does it for you.
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I would definitely need some major hand holding if I have to use soupkit as I have zero knowledge of Linux. Let me see if adding the .ini file works.
You could try the iso I made post 7 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1413358 . I`ll hold your hand if you need it.
I know it's been a while (a looooong while) since I have posted here but life sort of got in the way. I would like to share an update on my predicament. After months of leaving the Kindle Fire sitting on my bookshelf collecting dust I tried again to unbrick it. I spent a great deal of time studying up on Linux and reading and re-reading soupmagnets soupkit and decided to give it a try. I mean why not I'm not going to make things worse, right? . Well let me tell you it worked like a charm. I was able to restore my Kindle Fire to factory settings and to take it a step further I was able to install CROT recovery, the latest FFF bootloader and install CM10.1 and it's like a have a new device. I would like to give a huge thank you to everyone who tried to help me fix my device, you rock.
Mike