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[Q] help with root

i would like to root my phone but would still like to receive stock ics when it comes out, but i read if you are rooted and have CWM you wont get OTA updates so i was wondering is there a way to root only. i found this (link at bottom) would it just root and not install anything else?
http://galaxys2root.com/galaxy-s2-root/how-to-root-galaxy-s2-newworks-on-all-galaxy-s2-variants/

That would just give you root access.
But read this. It's useful information.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420065
[GUIDE] What to do if you get the UPDATE Notification (OTA) while rooted.
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dabest56 said:
i would like to root my phone but would still like to receive stock ics when it comes out, but i read if you are rooted and have CWM you wont get OTA updates so i was wondering is there a way to root only. i found this (link at bottom) would it just root and not install anything else?
http://galaxys2root.com/galaxy-s2-root/how-to-root-galaxy-s2-newworks-on-all-galaxy-s2-variants/
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well, most of the ROMs are based off stock, and will probably get the upate notification. However, you might have troubles updating through OTA because of this..
You can:
update through kies
flash a deodexed and rooted stock ICS ROM when released for t989
flash stock build through odin.
I would just flash a rooted rom to make like easier.

Root Phone T-Mo update questions

If I root my phone and Tmo sends an OTA update, will my phone still be rooted?

I don't believe you have to reset the flash count for this. But you do need to flash unrooted stock ROM first. Then get the OTA update. After that root again.

Thank you for the response.
I had another phone I rooted and when Tmo tried to push the update, Recovery mode caught it. I could never get the phone out of recovery mode after that. I got rid of the phone.
I don't want that to happen again obviously and why I asked the question. Seems to me, returning to stock, the rerooting might be more trouble than it's worth unless I had some compelling reason to do so.

JosephL said:
Thank you for the response.
I had another phone I rooted and when Tmo tried to push the update, Recovery mode caught it. I could never get the phone out of recovery mode after that. I got rid of the phone.
I don't want that to happen again obviously and why I asked the question. Seems to me, returning to stock, the rerooting might be more trouble than it's worth unless I had some compelling reason to do so.
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Here is the easiest method of managing root with this device: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957720
I like managing the background auto start processes to make my devices run much more smoothly. Which is why I like to root. Back up is another reason.
At this point I believe staying stock while rooted right now would help in the process of unrooting for updates.
There is going to be at least two or more updates. First update to get our multi-window, Swift Key Flow keyboard and other stuff that should of been in our Note 2 devices. Another update that will be enabling our LTE radio (when T-Mobile rolls out LTE). Jelly Bean 4.2 Android OS update should be updated somewhere in between these other updates (possibly at the same time as the enabling LTE update). So you are correct in thinking first before rooting.

JaguarXT said:
So you are correct in thinking first before rooting.
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Uh huh. I see a stock ROM in my future.
Thanks.

JaguarXT said:
At this point I believe staying stock while rooted. right now would help in the process of unrooting for updates.
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So you are saying, root but leave stock. Will the updates require me to unroot to receive them if I leave it stock?

Correct
Root and leave stock just my idea. Makes things easier when unrooting. But that is just my idea.
Always make a backup stock rom to unroot with. Or you can use the stock rom from this thread here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...FIRMWARE] SGH-T889 Factory Image (Unmodified) This is gold here.
After each OTA update you should make a backup of your stock rom as your latest stock rom. We should have a latest version of stock rom posted in our forum. But always best to use your latest backup image for stock rom. Again: This is gold here.
Read the thread that I gave you above.
But yes, unrooting before you can take OTA update. Take OTA update. Then root again.
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JaguarXT said:
But yes, unrooting before you can take OTA update. Take OTA update. Then root again.
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According to this guy all I need to do is flash the stock recovery, then I can take the update, then just flash Clockwork recovery once the update is taken and by what I think he's saying I don't have to unroot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VVyQRdsnaA&feature=channel&list=UL
Does this sound right?

Flashing stock rom will unroot your Galaxy Note 2. Basically put your Galaxy Note 2 back in to the same unmodified state that you bought it. Then OTA update. Then root.
Yes, I would take the OTA updates for now. They are important.
Also remember to backup your stock rom after OTA update. This will be the new stock rom for you to flash when you need to.
Sorry that I didn't explain what the process of unrooting was with GN2. Didn't have time, while with family. That is why I gave you the links.

JaguarXT said:
Flashing stock rom will unroot your Galaxy Note 2. Basically put your Galaxy Note 2 back in to the same unmodified state that you bought it. Then OTA update. Then root.
Yes, I would take the OTA updates for now. They are important.
Also remember to backup your stock rom after OTA update. This will be the new stock rom for you to flash when you need to.
Sorry that I didn't explain what the process of unrooting was with GN2. Didn't have time, while with family. That is why I gave you the links.
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would voodoo rootkeeper work for unrooting a stock rom, taking the ota update, then using voodoo again to regain root?
the only thing ive done to my phone is root, but i still want the ota updates for multi-window, etc later on.

JosephL said:
Thank you for the response.
I had another phone I rooted and when Tmo tried to push the update, Recovery mode caught it. I could never get the phone out of recovery mode after that. I got rid of the phone.
I don't want that to happen again obviously and why I asked the question. Seems to me, returning to stock, the rerooting might be more trouble than it's worth unless I had some compelling reason to do so.
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I dont have this phone yet but I know in most android you can disable updates in the settings so you dont run into those kinda problems
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JaguarXT said:
Flashing stock rom will unroot your Galaxy Note 2. Basically put your Galaxy Note 2 back in to the same unmodified state that you bought it. Then OTA update. Then root.
Yes, I would take the OTA updates for now. They are important.
Also remember to backup your stock rom after OTA update. This will be the new stock rom for you to flash when you need to.
Sorry that I didn't explain what the process of unrooting was with GN2. Didn't have time, while with family. That is why I gave you the links.
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when you install custom roms doesnt that make ota s moot? or does the device still retain updated functionality when using custom rooted rom ?

It all depends on what is going with the OTA. Some OTA updates might enable hardware that was otherwise dormant. LTE sure would be nice...
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement

heiNey said:
would voodoo rootkeeper work for unrooting a stock rom, taking the ota update, then using voodoo again to regain root?
the only thing ive done to my phone is root, but i still want the ota updates for multi-window, etc later on.
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No, Voodoo rootkeeper would not work here. Not needed either.
When you root Galaxy Note 2 it sets a "Modified" status to your Galaxy Note 2. As long as your Galaxy Note 2 status is set to "Modified" then you can't get OTA updates. This is why you have to flash Stock ROM back into your GN2. I am hoping and believing that you don't have to reset the flash count for this. At least that was not the case with Sprint OTA update version. The OTA updater just checks if you are unmodified or modified. If you are modified then the updater will tell you that you can't update because you are "Modified". Again this is the reason for flashing the Stock unrooted ROM. Once you flash Stock ROM then you will have "Unmodified" status. That is when you will be able to get OTA updates.
Please get the Stock recovering ROM and be ready to flash it when OTA update is ready.
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Some_dude36 said:
I dont have this phone yet but I know in most android you can disable updates in the settings so you dont run into those kinda problems
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when you install custom roms doesnt that make ota s moot? or does the device still retain updated functionality when using custom rooted rom ?
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Yes, root disables the updates through the status of "Modified". In fact when you try to update it says that you can't update because your GN2 is "Modified". But there are reasons that people want OTA updates: If you want your Multi-window feature, Swift Key Flow keyboard w/ S pen write to text, etc then you want the OTA update. If you want the LTE enable when T-Mobile rolls out LTE, then you want OTA update at that time And I can go on....
That is why people are asking these very good questions.

And in either case, within 24 hrs of any updates being released we'll have that rom in a .zip here on xda pre-rooted and ready to flash. I don't mess with counters, rooting/unrooting, etc... It'll be here!

farfromovin said:
And in either case, within 24 hrs of any updates being released we'll have that rom in a .zip here on xda pre-rooted and ready to flash. I don't mess with counters, rooting/unrooting, etc... It'll be here!
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Firstly messing with counters is mostly likely not needed. So that should not be a worry. Just to be noted.
Secondly, I hope that you are correct on that. But I been there thinking that community would do so but didn't. And least not for a while. And when they did found ways around to root again, it was not the way we wanted it. So I learned to not to put all my eggs in one basket.
Flashing Stock recovery ROM, taking the OTA updates, then root again is one of the baskets that all should have. If you don't need then no harm done. But if need and don't have it then harm done. A solution to the problem until another solution comes by.

heiNey said:
would voodoo rootkeeper work for unrooting a stock rom, taking the ota update, then using voodoo again to regain root?
the only thing ive done to my phone is root, but i still want the ota updates for multi-window, etc later on.
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I was wondering this as well. In the past I have had success with getting updates and using apps that required root by simply using the Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper app, but I don't know if it will work on this particular phone or not.
I suppose it's worth a shot to at least try when an update rolls around because if it works it's a lot easier than flashing back to stock and re-rooting again.
*Edit: Ah never mind, saw JaguarXT's reply saying it won't work. In that case I think I will hold off rooting the Note II for the time being.

JaguarXT said:
No, Voodoo rootkeeper would not work here. Not needed either.
When you root Galaxy Note 2 it sets a "Modified" status to your Galaxy Note 2. As long as your Galaxy Note 2 status is set to "Modified" then you can't get OTA updates. This is why you have to flash Stock ROM back into your GN2. I am hoping and believing that you don't have to reset the flash count for this. At least that was not the case with Sprint OTA update version. The OTA updater just checks if you are unmodified or modified. If you are modified then the updater will tell you that you can't update because you are "Modified". Again this is the reason for flashing the Stock unrooted ROM. Once you flash Stock ROM then you will have "Unmodified" status. That is when you will be able to get OTA updates.
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I am currently rooted and do not show the "Modified" status. I am also able to check for OTA updates. I believe it is bad information like this which is allowing people to feel it's OK to run amok with their phones. I feel this promotes the "need" for ROMs when most users could simply sit down with a launcher and customize it exactly the way they want it without a custom ROM. Now if I was getting some amazing battery life, or additional functionality that I can't live without, I might look at a ROM or two, but this isn't a Nexus, and stock\rooted\personalized works for me.
For those wanting to ROOT only, and that would be my recommendation, follow these instructions and STOP where he says STOP HERE.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1975560

Here is a couple of screen shots of what I was talking about. After stock recovery ROM no more "Modified" and can accept updates. Only after rooting get "Modified". Right I am rooted for backup and for AutoStarts app. But I did tried methods and know what works.
This is the method I know and tried of going back to stock and ready for OTA.
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mdt73 said:
Now if I was getting some amazing battery life, or additional functionality that I can't live without, I might look at a ROM or two, but this isn't a Nexus, and stock\rooted\personalized works for me.
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That's exactly where I am in all this. I plan NO custom roms because I'm sick of my phone not working.
I just want to do a few things that require root on the stock rom and for the things I want, I don't need a custom recovery.

[Q] Rooted Note II, OTA update question

So I rooted my Note II but I left the stock ROM on the phone, and AT&T just pushed a big OTA update. What steps do I need to be able to install an OTA update now? After a bit of research, it seems I need to unroot? I've just never had to do this before because I usually just use custom ROMs, but on the Note I wanted to leave the stock ROM in place.

rtatum said:
So I rooted my Note II but I left the stock ROM on the phone, and AT&T just pushed a big OTA update. What steps do I need to be able to install an OTA update now? After a bit of research, it seems I need to unroot? I've just never had to do this before because I usually just use custom ROMs, but on the Note I wanted to leave the stock ROM in place.
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I used MrRobinsons' root injected ROM which was UCAMA4 (I think) and left the recovery alone, used the root access app that I bought to keep root. I did not remove any AT&T apps and was able to update to UCAMC3 without any problems. And the app that I bought kept my root access.

CodeNameRedNeck said:
I used MrRobinsons' root injected ROM which was UCAMA4 (I think) and left the recovery alone, used the root access app that I bought to keep root. I did not remove any AT&T apps and was able to update to UCAMC3 without any problems. And the app that I bought kept my root access.
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Well -ALL- I did was root, install clockwork recovery, and Super SU. So I'm wondering what I need to do to be able to install an OTA update now, because I currently cannot.

It is my understanding that you must leave the recovery stock. I have also read that you must leave the AT&T apps in there but I am not sure about that. So if you want the update go back to stock then update then change your recovery.

CodeNameRedNeck said:
It is my understanding that you must leave the recovery stock. I have also read that you must leave the AT&T apps in there but I am not sure about that. So if you want the update go back to stock then update then change your recovery.
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Well it's been a while since I've messed with this, so I just need to find instructions on how to return to stock.
Edit: Found a thread to remove root and factory reset, but my OTA update still won't install.
Edit2: Goes to the AT&T Updating progress screen and fails at about 25% and then reboots and starts up as normal.

rtatum said:
So I rooted my Note II but I left the stock ROM on the phone, and AT&T just pushed a big OTA update. What steps do I need to be able to install an OTA update now? After a bit of research, it seems I need to unroot? I've just never had to do this before because I usually just use custom ROMs, but on the Note I wanted to leave the stock ROM in place.
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I don't have a solution to your problem, but I am very curious which AT&T update you are referring to.

Npsacobra said:
I don't have a solution to your problem, but I am very curious which AT&T update you are referring to.
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Me too. Whatever it is it isn't a major upgrade. . .

Npsacobra said:
I don't have a solution to your problem, but I am very curious which AT&T update you are referring to.
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No idea, it's a ~65mb update that just came up yesterday for me. I was looking to reset my phone back to factory anyways lately, so I just decided to do it now on account of there being an update. Since it's not working anyways, I might just re-root and flash a custom ROM, but then I lose S-Pen functionality, but I don't use the pen much these days anyways.

The update has two possibilities...
Either it's the latest UCAMC3 update for UCAMA4.....or...
If updating from the UCAMA4 to C3....and the update has an interrupt...or errors....it "can" complete the update process and show a finished status...but will prompt the user again later and download the update again....minus the updater files placed to cache....because they already exist...
I've had this happen twice in so many months as I returned to stock for various reasons...
The file size is roughly 65 meg.....while the complete update is 68.86 meg..
Just take the update...as it's the UCAMC3 minus the updater...g
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Same problem here. I just made a thread asking on a fix. So I'll let u know if I get one. And I'll check back here to see if u do
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[Q] Manually update At&t samsung galaxy s3 I747

I have i747 and update is only possible through ota that's what written on official website kies is not updating my phone as it is showing 4.1.1 is the latest firmware.
Please help me how can i update my Sgh-i747 manually or any other method.
I don't wanna root my phone.. I have also downloaded leaked 4.3 ROM I747UCUEMJ2.7z and after extracting i get different files.I didn't get any .md5 or .tar file which odin recognizes. So i can't update my phone maually to 4.3 by odin
Please help me how can i update my sgh-i747.
I have official samsung firmware 4.1.1.

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I have i747 and update is only possible through ota that's what written on official website kies is not updating my phone as it is showing 4.1.1 is the latest firmware.
Please help me how can i update my Sgh-i747 manually or any other method.
I don't wanna root my phone.. I have also downloaded leaked 4.3 ROM I747UCUEMJ2.7z and after extracting i get different files.I didn't get any .md5 or .tar file which odin recognizes. So i can't update my phone maually to 4.3 by odin
Please help me how can i update my sgh-i747.
I have official samsung firmware 4.1.1.
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The update IS possible OTA. It does not show up in KIES for some reason.
A couple of things before you do this.
Be aware that once you have the MJB bootloader that comes with the 4.3 update, you cannot go back to anything lower without bricking the phone. Plenty of articles here about it. Until someone here finds a way, it's a one way trip, and there is no stock firmware available yet to flash via Odin. I'm also not sure if you can load one of the other 4.3 versions found here without bricking it after the OTA 4.3.
Some new features are added in 4.3, and some are broken. For me, after the update, s-voice no longer works via Bluetooth, and I'm pretty sure it is an S-voice and not BT issue. Others are reporting battery life issues, constant updates, etc. Research research research. (I wish I had)
Go to settings - about device - software update and follow the prompts to get an OTA. I don't think AT&T is pushing it, but is available. Probably not a bad idea to boot to recovery first and wipe the cache before you do.
You have to be running a stock recovery for it to install and its about a 1gig download, so be on wireless and have a fully charged battery.
In my case, I had the phone rooted with a toggles mod. The update went partially and broke some things. I had to flash to an unmodded unrooted 4.1.1 via Odin to get the update to go.

I made the mistake of trying to flash MJ2 bootloader after having the MJB bootloader. It boots now with the "unbrick" sd card. Would it be possible to ODIN stock 4.1 and still boot with the SD card so it could take the 4.3 OTA again?
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RichMD said:
I made the mistake of trying to flash MJ2 bootloader after having the MJB bootloader. It boots now with the "unbrick" sd card. Would it be possible to ODIN stock 4.1 and still boot with the SD card so it could take the 4.3 OTA again?
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I don't know. I've never bricked a phone. As I understand it, 4.3 BL blows e-fuses making it impossible to downgrade. If that is in fact an accurate description, then even if you were to get it to boot via SD card and installed 4.1.1, it would brick it again (double brick?)
Considering the dangers involved, I'm afraid to even sideload a different MJB 4.3 on mine.
You might just have to suck it up and send it off for a J-tag service. I've never done it, but I think others here have.
here's the link I've seen most.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Unbrick-AT-T-SGH-I747-S3-SGH-T999-JTAG-service-I747-T999-Hard-Brick-Fix-USA-/160896407164
Sorry for your loss.

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I don't know. I've never bricked a phone. As I understand it, 4.3 BL blows e-fuses making it impossible to downgrade. If that is in fact an accurate description, then even if you were to get it to boot via SD card and installed 4.1.1, it would brick it again (double brick?)
Considering the dangers involved, I'm afraid to even sideload a different MJB 4.3 on mine.
You might just have to suck it up and send it off for a J-tag service. I've never done it, but I think others here have.
here's the link I've seen most.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Unbrick-AT-T-SGH-I747-S3-SGH-T999-JTAG-service-I747-T999-Hard-Brick-Fix-USA-/160896407164
Sorry for your loss.
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I am trying to learn more about it but my "initial" understanding is that the "blown efuse" thing is that you can no longer boot from an earlier bootloader but it doesn't "damage" anything else. Therefore, since I already have a phone in that state but it can boot off the SD card I'm wondering if it doesn't make things worse to flash a 4.1 stock image. It would still fail to boot via EMMC but then boot off SD? Then the OTA could "possibly" happen? I doubt it is possible or someone would have posted about it but I haven't seen that you definitely CAN'T do it so I am continuing to look.

[Q] Help Updating i747m to 4.3

Hello,
I am currently using a galaxy S3 i747m which is rooted and unlocked running 4.1.1. I believe I used this guide (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426) in order to do the root.
I want to update my phone to 4.3 while retaining the root (or rerooting afterwards). I've done plenty of research and haven't found a solid guide to help me. Most seem to assume I would be on 4.1.2 or already on a stock 4.3. I don't have a solid amount of confidence with these tasks so I'm too scared to just try and flash a 4.3 ROM without a confirmation that it will work. Kies tells me in can update the phone but I am also worried about that.
What is the best course of action for me? I wouldn't be writing here unless I had already done my research and was still unsure.
Also a side question, I'm not sure how the phone was unlocked (software or code), if it was unlocked via software, will I lose this by updating to 4.3?
Thanks for the help!

The easiest way to upgrade would be to use Odin to flash a pre-rooted ROM. However, you will lose your data and apps.

audit13 said:
The easiest way to upgrade would be to use Odin to flash a pre-rooted ROM. However, you will lose your data and apps.
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Thank you for the response! Do you know where I can get a good pre-rooted ROM? Would the 4.3 one in my previous link work? Would the Kies backup be sufficient in restoring my data? Or would I need to use something like Titanium Backup?
Thanks again for all the help!

Upgrading will not re-lock the phone.
You can use one of the pre-rooted 4.3 ROMs you linked. Personally, I stayed away from 4.3 as it will introduce Knox which may cause problems in the future.
I haven't used Kies for anything so I'm not sure how good it will work. Also, it's possible your apps may not work when restored under 4.3.

audit13 said:
Upgrading will not re-lock the phone.
You can use one of the pre-rooted 4.3 ROMs you linked. Personally, I stayed away from 4.3 as it will introduce Knox which may cause problems in the future.
I haven't used Kies for anything so I'm not sure how good it will work. Also, it's possible your apps may not work when restored under 4.3.
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Thanks again for all the help. I went ahead with the update and it actually went better than expected. All my data was preserved including apps, media, settings etc. Its just now at 4.3 and rooted!
Cheers!