http://gizmodo.com/5978982/unlocking-your-phone-is-illegal-starting-tomorrow
oh boy - i wonder how strongly they'll track this ...
Personally, I think thats really dumb because its only gonna make people want to it more.
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That is NOT rooting. That is using QPST to flash to another carrier and there are so many exceptions in there that it probably affects 0.2% users on here. It just means that a Boost dealer is not going to just randomly unlock any phone and flash it for you.
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That is NOT rooting. That is using QPST to flash to another carrier and there are so many exceptions in there that it probably affects 0.2% users on here. It just means that a Boost dealer is not going to just randomly unlock any phone and flash it for you.
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Since 2010 rooting has been protected. But they'll probably go after it again soon
The prey is just simply another predator
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Since 2010 rooting has been protected. But they'll probably go after it again soon
The prey is just simply another predator
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In order to go after rooting they would need to get SCOTUS to change their ruling. Even an act of congress can't overturn the SCOTUS ruling so it would take a hell of alot of good convincing arguments to get them to do a 180. Apple tried and failed, Google doesn't care if you root or not and Verizon is the only carrier that would really put up a fight against rooting so I don't see it happening anytime soon. The problem is they let old farts that have no clue about technology write these stupid laws. When you have an uneducated person write a law you end up with laws that make no sense. More or less someone's just trying to make up a new crime to generate more revenue personally I'll tell em right where they can take that law turn it sideways and shove it
I like to break stuff!
So I don't need to scramble and root my phone tonight possibly bricking in fit of panic?
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So I don't need to scramble and root my phone tonight possibly bricking in fit of panic?
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No you don't. Lol, honestly even if you want to unlock a gsm phone I wouldn't rush, how the hell will they prove you did it after tomorrow
I like to break stuff!
Lol I don't care
The slight chance I leave sprint for a GSM carrier I'll be sure to buy the play store nexus but I guess not being able to use whatever phone I want defeats the purpose of a GSM carrier
But if rooting becomes illegal I wonder what I'll do
I like to brick stuff!
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Edit: because every one who's phone I root or jailbreak always tells me the wrong phone name or gets scammed in to getting the wrong phone.
One guy bought a galaxy s 4g from Chinatown with the galaxy s 4g box and back cover but it was a vibrant in disguise
Yup guys lol, rooting is to unlocking as peanut butter is to jelly. They go hand in hand but totally different things
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Well there really is no such thing as unlocking a cdma phone. If you are flashing your sprint phone to another carrier you were already doing something in the gray area of illegal.
For gsm this sucks a lot. One of the big reasons to go gsm is the open ability to pop a sim into any phone and use it. I hope this is repealed. Sure, companies are pretty willing to unlock phones now, but I can see that all changing now that the law is in their court.
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Here's a petition I stumbled across today
http://androidcommunity.com/unlocking-your-phone-petition-started-to-make-it-legal-20130127/
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Really don't care what they make illegal.. ..I don't like rules anyways..!
Just 1 question. What for thay make it? I`m trying understand their law about "music content", they make on it huge money. But unlocked devices? All were made on open code, midified it (even adding 1 letter) & closed it. Which ":silly:" will modify it, if it works well? But if it works sh..ty & developer doesn`t want to improve it why they prohibiting us to do that. If it has sh..t code it can`t have any value, if it really good code & we can improve it (without taking money for & from it), why they prohibit this?
& what they prohibit next..?
Just an fyi, that this isn't for phone purchased prior to the ruling. This ruling is only for newly purchased phones, as in the date of ruling and going forward. Also this is more for large scale/business purchases. Apparently business would buy the subsidized phones, then unlock them and send them overseas for sale. This was the main reason for this new law.
just signed the petition but would like to ask a Q.
i just bought a Sprint S3 with cracked screen and bad esn off craigslist for $125 total
i was thinking about flashing to boost or straight talk but can see that is possibly illegal.
anyhow what if i get a sprint donor phone and flash it over to my bad esn sprint s3?
since its not switching carriers that would be ok wouldnt it?
do i need to take the esn sticker off donor phone and put it on phone with bad esn whenever i do this if i do?
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just signed the petition but would like to ask a Q.
i just bought a Sprint S3 with cracked screen and bad esn off craigslist for $125 total
i was thinking about flashing to boost or straight talk but can see that is possibly illegal.
anyhow what if i get a sprint donor phone and flash it over to my bad esn sprint s3?
since its not switching carriers that would be ok wouldnt it?
do i need to take the esn sticker off donor phone and put it on phone with bad esn whenever i do this if i do?
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How is that not switching carriers? Sprint is a carrier and Boost is an "Affiliate" carrier or whatever you want to call them. Just just pay Sprint to run off their towers.
Unlocked phones can be used on multiple GSM carriers. If you flashed one to Boost, I personally don't think that matters.
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How is that not switching carriers? Sprint is a carrier and Boost is an "Affiliate" carrier or whatever you want to call them. Just just pay Sprint to run off their towers.
Unlocked phones can be used on multiple GSM carriers. If you flashed one to Boost, I personally don't think that matters.
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re-read what i wrote
guess you didnt get it.
My S3 (WITH BAD ESN)
Get a DONOR (SPRINT Phone)
(Flash Donor Phone SPRINT Info to the Sprint S3 Bad ESN phone)
Get it?
is it illegal?
en11gma said:
re-read what i wrote
guess you didnt get it.
My S3 (WITH BAD ESN)
Get a DONOR (SPRINT Phone)
(Flash Donor Phone SPRINT Info to the Sprint S3 Bad ESN phone)
Get it?
is it illegal?
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So you're saying you want to take a non-S3's ESN / IMEI and attempt to flash it to the BAD ESN S3?
So when you say DONOR, you just want the other "DONOR" phone's ESN.
Yes. That is supposedly illegal. If you're here even asking if that's illegal or not, I don't think you'll even be able to pull it off.
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So you're saying you want to take a non-S3's ESN / IMEI and attempt to flash it to the BAD ESN S3?
So when you say DONOR, you just want the other "DONOR" phone's ESN.
Yes. That is supposedly illegal. If you're here even asking if that's illegal or not, I don't think you'll even be able to pull it off.
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what i said was clearly stated and now you are twisiting it again.
SPRINT Bad ESN (my GS3)
DONOR = SPRINT Good ESN
TAKE DONOR INFO PUT IN MY GS3?
SAME CARRIER
Rooting and unlocking are 2 different things. Please do some research. Even if rooting becomes illegal people will still continue to do so...
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Hey,
Here's my situation, i have a company which repairs phones, we also do retail and we're buying gsm and cdma phones, but the problem with cdma (sprint or verizon) phones is that when we call the provider to check if phone is ok they say that yes, and that it can me connected to the network, so as i believe, the ESN is "clear"...but after a week or 2 weeks it becomes "reported lost/stolen"...
And then the phone is actually worthless, the only thing is that we can use it for parts.
So finally, my question is:
can i "unlock" "lost or stolen" htc diamond, or any other locked sprint/verizon phone to work with another carrier.
i know that ESN changing is prohibited, so do i have any choice, what can i do?
thanks
greg
Stop stealing phones....lol the short answer is yes you can unlock that phone...I know I am a bit late in a responce but hey at least you got one
f*** you asshole...don't call anybody a thief if you don't know what's going on.
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f*** you asshole...don't call anybody a thief if you don't know what's going on.
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Why are they being reported lost or stolen. If what you are doing is legitimate then you shouldn't have any issues, right?
I'm doing???
WTF? At the time I asked this question I was actually in New York, working for this company http://us.webuy.com/ but as I'm an apple technician I had no idea about CDMA phones but WeBuy.com was buying CDMA (in a legitimate way) and then the phones were reported as stolen which is ridiculous in my opinion, if the phone was stolen it should have been locked right away, don't you think?
Anyway, I don't work with them any more and i never stole or bought a stolen phone, (I guess you did?) so i believe you guys really should apologize...
I don't think anyone here is actually saying you are stealing, just curious as to why they would be lost/stolen if they were not actually lost/stolen. You need to chill out. Bad language gets you nowhere but banned here.
if we assume that this was a reply "Stop stealing phones" it's pretty obvious what you meant.
we checked all imeis and ESNs in MEND so if they were stolen they should've been reported earlier, not just after selling them...i guess people just want to get some money back from providers, no idea...that's why i was wondering about the unlock. i don't care about being banned on the forum with people like CR1T1C4L718....That's just lack of respect and basic knowledge
I was just kidding with you dude..no need to get all huffy puffy and start peacocking...lol
bommerlunder - you are a tool.
bommerlunder said:
if we assume that this was a reply "Stop stealing phones" it's pretty obvious what you meant.
we checked all imeis and ESNs in MEND so if they were stolen they should've been reported earlier, not just after selling them...i guess people just want to get some money back from providers, no idea...that's why i was wondering about the unlock. i don't care about being banned on the forum with people like CR1T1C4L718....That's just lack of respect and basic knowledge
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So you cant take a joke?
I have heard of people using a evo on verizon i been eyeing the droid razr so if possible i wanna flash it to sprint. I called a store they said no but they prolly just want me to spend money on a new phone. So is it possible?
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AFAIK, this is impossible because Sprint will not activate a phone from outside their network.
I believe the CDMA frequencies are incompatible, but don't quote me on that.
Are you sure the Evos are in Verizon? I've heard of them on Cricket and other smaller carriers that use the Sprint network, but not Verizon.
I do not believe this is possible due to Sprint being a jerk. You COULD buy the Droid Razr unlocked and plead with a Sprint rep, but I would say you have next to no chance of getting them to activate it for you. Sprint will only activate a phone that has an ESN number that is in their database, they COULD activate it, but that is against their TOS and no rep even has the power to do it for you, you would have to practically get Dan Hesse on the phone to do it
My advice would be to wait a little bit (unless your current phone is on the fritz and you need a new one now, and in that case, go with the Epic 4G Touch, I love mine!!) and see what is out there, the Galaxy Nexus MAY or MAY NOT come to Sprint, but I would expect at least 2 or 3 top of the line Android devices by the end of Q1 2012...... Ultimately the choice is up to you... Best of luck!!
It is being done you have to unlock the phone so the freg can be changed to work on a different carrier. You do not tell what type of phone u just give the ESN number after you hack the hardware info. You would be surprised how often this is being done. Most of your local cell phone providers have the software to make this happen and when i mean your local cell phone provider. I am talking about the ones that offer service cheap or have the phone in the store that you can buy. the mom and pops.
I have to "lol" at some of the replies. Sprint and Verizon use the same cdma frequencies, 800mhz/1900mhz. Why do you think Sprint phones can voice and data roam on VZW?
Anyway, what the OP wants to do is achievable via *wink* *wink* methods, and it's not easily done anyway but possible.
Google is your friend.
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I thought there was a law against them not allowing this?
When I was with T Mobile (GSM) they were required by federal to give you the subsidy unlock code and could not deny the usage of any other GSM phone on their network so long as the IMEI wasn't blacklisted for being stolen/lost. I could call AT&T to unlock one of their phones to use on T Mobile - obviously data was a nogo because of the AWS band.
So there's nothing like that for CDMA carriers?
Like what newalker91, none Sprint ESN will not work. But any Verizon phone will work on Sprint. You will have to do the same thing as they are doing to the EVO's.
Look for a broken or older Android phone with a good ESN.
huh? Google it!
newalker91 said:
For one, the 3G frequencies on Sprint are locked out to phones not registered in the ESN database and the phone will NOT work on Sprint's network. Calling Sprint a jerk for this is ridiculous and shows how little research has been done by the complainant.
For two, this has nothing to do with the Epic 4G Touch, therefore this thread is being reported as spam/incorrect section.
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If that's the case, how can we load certain PRL's and roam on Verizon's network using 3G? Or is roaming a different story? It would seem we're not exactly "lock out" due to the ESN not being registered, maybe mildly restricted?
There seems to be some major gaps in what you said but I could be wrong, care to elaborate?
As far as reporting this thread, that's a douchey move. The OP has a legitimate question, it just seems people have heard different *facts* about the topic so there's a few different answers. That's no reason to report the thread and try to have it deleted - obviously there's an information issue on this subject that needs to be resolved. Even more of a reason to keep this thread open.
CDMA phones are essentially unlocked. You can get your SPC/MSL, for my Vogue and Mogul, I called sprint ant they gave the MSL even though at the time I was under contract. Now I just use CDMAWS. Everyone knows Verizon's MSL code, 000000. With your msl you can change configurations to your hearts content, provided you have the software.
The problem is that Verizon and Sprint will not activate a meid/esn that is not in their system. Yes they are both protecting their interests by making sure you live up to your agreement but I also think they do not want to take the to time trouble shoot every stinking phone that some yahoo wants to put on their network. Keep in mind every phone they release has been tested and configured to work on their network, they don't some strange phone coming from a Korean/Chinese CDMA network with who knows what settings configured on their network. There are a ton of configuration options that other carriers can use. Thankfully Verizon and Sprint keep the configs on the simple side.
Getting a E4GT on Verizon/MetroPC/Virgin/Boost is a piece of cake. Its one of the easiest phones to do. Many HTC phone are harder to do but can be done. LGs look simple but the Optimus seems to require using LGNPST to unlock some entries before you can get changes to stick. I was using a Droid Incrdible on my Sero plan for 6 months before I changed phones. Going in to details on how is discouraged and I have been warned against doing so by a mod.
rruss said:
I have heard of people using a evo on verizon i been eyeing the droid razr so if possible i wanna flash it to sprint. I called a store they said no but they prolly just want me to spend money on a new phone. So is it possible?
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Yes, it's possible. When I worked at Sprint I had a customer come in with an Evo on Verizon (he later came back to Sprint). You take a Verizon smartphone and swap ESN's with the phone you want to put on. It's not illegal if you swap them, and it's not like anyone's going to know, because on their system, it'll show up as the other phone, not what you're actually using. It's not a straight-forward process but if you can follow directions it's not too hard.
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Yes, it's possible. When I worked at Sprint I had a customer come in with an Evo on Verizon (he later came back to Sprint). You take a Verizon smartphone and swap ESN's with the phone you want to put on. It's not illegal if you swap them, and it's not like anyone's going to know, because on their system, it'll show up as the other phone, not what you're actually using. It's not a straight-forward process but if you can follow directions it's not too hard.
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So If I were to call sprint and Had a droid razr that I want to use and I'm currently using a palm pre I Just give them my pre esn and they will use that to activate it? How is this possible because doesn't each phone have a specific ESN that allows that specific phone to be activated?
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So If I were to call sprint and Had a droid razr that I want to use and I'm currently using a palm pre I Just give them my pre esn and they will use that to activate it? How is this possible because doesn't each phone have a specific ESN that allows that specific phone to be activated?
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It's not that simple. You have to use programs to swap the ESNs. As in take the ESN from the Pre and put it on the Droid Razr. And then you give them the Pre ESN (which is really the Droid Razr) and it'll work on Sprint. You'll still need to change some stuff like the APN/MMS settings, among other things, but out of the box, it should make calls/SMS texts.
A little bit of a downer...
Theres only one problem with that... Droid Razr uses a Sim card for network identification. I know its CDMA, but all LTE phones on Verizon require a sim card, also it has no ESN number. So, until Sprint gets LTE, then no Razr on Sprint, unless someone hacks the sim card to have an ESN number (which I have seen with the HTC ThunderBolt), but if Sprint does get LTE, then you have to change the IMEI number with a 4G LTE phone on Sprints Network, and even then, you still only get Sprint 3G, unless they plan to use the same bands as Verizon, but good luck trying to get it on Sprint!
ok here's the breakdown.. because 90% of the info in here isnt correct. few guys said some worthwhile stuff tho.. so everyone dont hate
the droid razr isnt getting on sprint... youre not editing the moto meid. not possible. there are some scripts out there that edit the moto meid on bootup but its buggy and does not work on all motos. unless youre super mobile hacker.. youre not touching this method.
other phones... samsungs/htc/lg... as gedster314 said... can all be easily edited. each individual phone may have its quirks but in general.. they all generally use the same methods to edit meid/3g profiles.
now... as for what Jayjaymac said above about it not being able to work without a sim card. generally this is correct.. when doing everything by the book. but you can remove the sim card and rewrite the serial built into the phone and rewrite it as the meid.. and then youre on cricket/metro/boost etc. now again... youre not editing the moto meid... but its because of how moto locks down their phones.. NOT because of the lte sim. the samsung charge has a weird chipset so no one has interfaced it with QPST yet.. so no meid change there either. the htc thunderbolt can easily be put on any cdma network.. that has a sim. any htc device wouldnt be a problem putting on other networks... vzw gnex would work as well.
tl;dr
the moto cant be done... but not for the reasons people specified in this thread. if u wanna edit meid's.. dont ever choose moto.
Yes, like auto said, the MEID was created as an ESN replacement. You cannot "clone" and MEID to another device to fool Sprint anymore. Old ESN devices could be done that way, but that is no longer the case with MEID
Korey_Nicholson said:
Yes, like auto said, the MEID was created as an ESN replacement. You cannot "clone" and MEID to another device to fool Sprint anymore. Old ESN devices could be done that way, but that is no longer the case with MEID
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i didnt say that
you can certainly edit meid's on phones still. any htc device, 99% of samsung devices, 90% of lg devices... all editable. you can even force meid phones back to use esn-only if you must.
the issue in this thread is that the OP wanted to edit the motorola droid razr, but you are unable to edit it due to how motorola locks their phones down.
and to everyone else reading this thread.. no this thread will NOT be used for directions on how to do any of this. we're merely discussing whether something is technically possible or not.
autoprime said:
i didnt say that
you can certainly edit meid's on phones still. any htc device, 99% of samsung devices, 90% of lg devices... all editable. you can even force meid phones back to use esn-only if you must.
the issue in this thread is that the OP wanted to edit the motorola droid razr, but you are unable to edit it due to how motorola locks their phones down.
and to everyone else reading this thread.. no this thread will NOT be used for directions on how to do any of this. we're merely discussing whether something is technically possible or not.
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Ahh misunderstood.
autoprime said:
you can certainly edit meid's on phones still. any htc device, 99% of samsung devices, 90% of lg devices...
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rruss said:
I have heard of people using a evo on verizon i been eyeing the droid razr so if possible i wanna flash it to sprint. I called a store they said no but they prolly just want me to spend money on a new phone. So is it possible?
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http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/estore/certifieddevice/cd
Why didn't you just reply to the thread this was in?
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Hello! I am a repair tech and I have a Samsung T999 Galaxy S III here and when I try to make calls on it a message pops up saying "Not registered on network" and I'm just wondering if there is a fix? I am using a valid SIM card and it works in other phones I have here.
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Being a tech and all I am sure you already checked your APN settings and EMEI correct?
Has the phone ever worked, and if so what were you doing when it stopped working?
jcbofkc said:
Being a tech and all I am sure you already checked your APN settings and EMEI correct?
Has the phone ever worked, and if so what were you doing when it stopped working?
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The APN settings currently in the phone are below. I don't know the exact settings, but will definitely look it up unless someone can tell me if what they see is correct? I checked the IMEI with T-Mobile and it doesn't have any bad history. The phone worked when I first bought it from a customer, but now that I am trying to sell it, any SIM card I put in there gives me the error.
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Is the imei still there in settings/about phone/ status? Did you root it or flash anything since it quit working? I know you checked the emei with tmobile but did you get it from the phone or the phone box?
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tgamble160 said:
Is the imei still there in settings/about phone/ status? Did you root it or flash anything since it quit working? I know you checked the emei with tmobile but did you get it from the phone or the phone box?
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I run a business and we buy used phones, etc. for resale. I just bought it from a customer the other day and I do not know the complete history of the device, but it is stock. The phone worked with SIM card in the phone upon purchasing, but now a week later when I am trying to sell it, it is giving me that error. I got the IMEI from settings/about phone/status.
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haoleflip said:
I run a business and we buy used phones, etc. for resale. I just bought it from a customer the other day and I do not know the complete history of the device, but it is stock. The phone worked with SIM card in the phone upon purchasing, but now a week later when I am trying to sell it, it is giving me that error. I got the IMEI from settings/about phone/status.
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If you're sure it worked when it was sold to you, and IMEI is in contact, and you're using a T-Mobile SIM...it's very likely he conned you for whatever reason or that HE STOLE the phone, and the owner called T-Mobile to blacklist the IMEI and you're no longer able to connect.
A word of advice before buying a android from someone ask about the original box and when it was bought maybe a receipt if possible. If that person gives you the run around and looks fishy don't buy the phone. Now you got a paper weight and its a win-win for seller since he's really not losing anything. Check if the EMEI matches from the battery on the back of the phone to the number on status of a phone. You can try using Odin as a last ditch effort to stock.
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TheLastSidekick said:
If you're sure it worked when it was sold to you, and IMEI is in contact, and you're using a T-Mobile SIM...it's very likely he conned you for whatever reason or that HE STOLE the phone, and the owner called T-Mobile to blacklist the IMEI and you're no longer able to connect.
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But I have already checked with T-Mobile and the IMEI that the phone is reading is not blocked or reported lost or stolen. I spoke to two different reps because I was skeptical about the first answer I got. I am going to try to reload stock to see if that fixes anything.
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T-Mobile s3 will only work on whatever tower the SIM is for. Say you put a T-Mobile SIM in the phone is useless with out a T-Mobile tower. Same happens if you put a at&t SIM.
I've had 3 galaxy s3 phones and my brother has had a few as well. ALL do the same thing yours does. It just doesn't roam on any other tower then what the SIM is for. and even T-Mobile techs couldn't figure out why. Contacted Samsung about the issue and nothing ever came of it.
Do a manual search for networks. If your using a T-Mobile SIM look for there tower. If you don't see it there's your problem.
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haoleflip said:
But I have already checked with T-Mobile and the IMEI that the phone is reading is not blocked or reported lost or stolen. I spoke to two different reps because I was skeptical about the first answer I got. I am going to try to reload stock to see if that fixes anything.
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Unfortunately, that doesn't matter. It's what happens after that that matters. What needs to be asked is "is this phone on a EIP" (installment plan). If so, then it could easily be blacklisted by the seller stopping the payments. This just happened to me. The sale date and the blacklist date were 2 months apart. So, ebay and paypal were NOT interested in helping me since it was beyond 45 days. My credit card company took over. I got my money back and they went after the seller.
The bigger scam that caused T-Mobile to start blacklisting is people getting a phone for $199 on a two year deal, then selling it for $650 and never making a payment.
edit: the error "Not Registered on Network" is the error I got that prompted me to call T-Mobile only to find out I had been blacklisted. It was the second level tech that got me that information. He knew right away.
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T-Mobile s3 will only work on whatever tower the SIM is for. Say you put a T-Mobile SIM in the phone is useless with out a T-Mobile tower. Same happens if you put a at&t SIM.
I've had 3 galaxy s3 phones and my brother has had a few as well. ALL do the same thing yours does. It just doesn't roam on any other tower then what the SIM is for. and even T-Mobile techs couldn't figure out why. Contacted Samsung about the issue and nothing ever came of it.
Do a manual search for networks. If your using a T-Mobile SIM look for there tower. If you don't see it there's your problem.
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I know it's not an issue with towers as I have a bunch of other T-Mobile phones here that work just fine with the same SIM.
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ridobe said:
Unfortunately, that doesn't matter. It's what happens after that that matters. What needs to be asked is "is this phone on a EIP" (installment plan). If so, then it could easily be blacklisted by the seller stopping the payments. This just happened to me. The sale date and the blacklist date were 2 months apart. So, ebay and paypal were NOT interested in helping me since it was beyond 45 days. My credit card company took over. I got my money back and they went after the seller.
The bigger scam that caused T-Mobile to start blacklisting is people getting a phone for $199 on a two year deal, then selling it for $650 and never making a payment.
edit: the error "Not Registered on Network" is the error I got that prompted me to call T-Mobile only to find out I had been blacklisted. It was the second level tech that got me that information. He knew right away.
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I think I know someone who works with t-mobile, so I'll ask him if he can find out anything more. Thanks for the info.
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How do I port everything from one phone to another (cloning)? I need like the data info and MMS, etc, also what PRL?
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How do I port everything from one phone to another (cloning)? I need like the data info and MMS, etc, also what PRL?
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Cloning is highly illegal...however...you can pay straight talk 15 bucks and activate their service easily through their website legally...and everything works...including data and mms
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Cloning is highly illegal...however...you can pay straight talk 15 bucks and activate their service easily through their website legally...and everything works...including data and mms
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Can you provide a link for me?
I just want Straight Talk to work on this thing and no one seems to want to help. I though these forums knew there stuff!!!
Dude straight talks website...look for bring your own phone for CDMA on their
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Dude straight talks website...look for bring your own phone for CDMA on their
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I did and it said it's not capable. However I see people say they need a loner phone and what not and I just need this to work.
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I did and it said it's not capable. However I see people say they need a loner phone and what not and I just need this to work.
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I did it a month ago...using a loner phone to clone is illegal and you will go to prison...you have been warned
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I did it a month ago...using a loner phone to clone is illegal and you will go to pridon...you have been warned
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So then I am screwed? How do I switch the service, is that a PRL file?
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So then I am screwed
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No...its easy as pie dude...if the phone is blacklisted from sprint tho...you are screwed
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No...its easy as pie dude...if the phone is blacklisted from sprint tho...you are screwed
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Can you show me how? Cause I just bough this phone and now I cannot use it. I got the MEID ESN, and MSI form other phone.
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Can you show me how? Cause I just bough this phone and now I cannot use it. I got the MEID ESN, and MSI form other phone.
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Give me a few...busy building a ROM lol
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Give me a few...busy building a ROM lol
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Ok Thanks!!! I just need to know how to get the Sprint network to switch over to straight talk.
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I blacked out the MEID, ICCID, and IMEI. So what must I do to make this receive mobile connection?
As long as you have a clean phone released by sprint, you can go through straight talk. There aren't many people at straight talk that know how to do it. I had to call them, and you need to make them understand that this is a byop Sprint Samsung galaxy s3 on sprint's 4g/LTE cdma network. I had to hang up and call back a few times to get someone who knew how to switch it over. I was already on straight talk with a droid x2 through the byop program, and they were eventually able to transfer my service to the s3 at no cost to me, and have my service end date transfer too. Persistence paid off, now I have a sweet s3 rocking 4g with unlimited (3gb/month) data for under $50/month.
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As long as you have a clean phone released by sprint, you can go through straight talk. There aren't many people at straight talk that know how to do it. I had to call them, and you need to make them understand that this is a byop Sprint Samsung galaxy s3 on sprint's 4g/LTE cdma network. I had to hang up and call back a few times to get someone who knew how to switch it over. I was already on straight talk with a droid x2 through the byop program, and they were eventually able to transfer my service to the s3 at no cost to me, and have my service end date transfer too. Persistence paid off, now I have a sweet s3 rocking 4g with unlimited (3gb/month) data for under $50/month.
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Thanks! yes I called them the first time and they told me it wasn't possible. They said it wasn't compatible.
EDIT: Did they have to create a ticket for you and give you a network code?
I don't remember what number I called, but it wasn't anything special. I went to straight talk, logged into my account and looked up 'contact us'. I picked the number for cell phone support- I remember it ended with 'cell (2355)'. Told them what I had and that I wanted to port my number from the droid to the s3. When they told me I couldn't do it, I told them it was possible. When they argued with me I said fine, I'll call back and get someone that actually knows what's going on. If they pay any attention to the post call surveys, there are at least 5 people there that should be getting retrained or fired. I believe it took a total of eight calls to them to get the s3 on correctly. The last couple of calls required getting to the port escalation department, but I think that was more a fault of the previous provider on the s3 not properly releasing the phone after it was cancelled. Hope this helps.
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I don't remember what number I called, but it wasn't anything special. I went to straight talk, logged into my account and looked up 'contact us'. I picked the number for cell phone support- I remember it ended with 'cell (2355)'. Told them what I had and that I wanted to port my number from the droid to the s3. When they told me I couldn't do it, I told them it was possible. When they argued with me I said fine, I'll call back and get someone that actually knows what's going on. If they pay any attention to the post call surveys, there are at least 5 people there that should be getting retrained or fired. I believe it took a total of eight calls to them to get the s3 on correctly. The last couple of calls required getting to the port escalation department, but I think that was more a fault of the previous provider on the s3 not properly releasing the phone after it was cancelled. Hope this helps.
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Thanks! The fact that it can be done I will for sure stay on them about this.
I don't remember what number I called, but it wasn't anything special. I went to straight talk, logged into my account and looked up 'contact us'. I picked the number for cell phone support- I remember it ended with 'cell (2355)'. Told them what I had and that I wanted to port my number from the droid to the s3. When they told me I couldn't do it, I told them it was possible. When they argued with me I said fine, I'll call back and get someone that actually knows what's going on. If they pay any attention to the post call surveys, there are at least 5 people there that should be getting retrained or fired. I believe it took a total of eight calls to them to get the s3 on correctly. The last couple of calls required getting to the port escalation department, but I think that was more a fault of the previous provider on the s3 not properly releasing the phone after it was cancelled. Hope this helps.
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I don't remember what number I called, but it wasn't anything special. I went to straight talk, logged into my account and looked up 'contact us'. I picked the number for cell phone support- I remember it ended with 'cell (2355)'. Told them what I had and that I wanted to port my number from the droid to the s3. When they told me I couldn't do it, I told them it was possible. When they argued with me I said fine, I'll call back and get someone that actually knows what's going on. If they pay any attention to the post call surveys, there are at least 5 people there that should be getting retrained or fired. I believe it took a total of eight calls to them to get the s3 on correctly. The last couple of calls required getting to the port escalation department, but I think that was more a fault of the previous provider on the s3 not properly releasing the phone after it was cancelled. Hope this helps.
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They made me a ticket and said it could take 24/48 hours to process. Did they have to do that for you?
Yes. That was right before I found out the previous carrier had not released the phone properly. Getting that done quickly involved threatening the old carrier with the better business bureau.
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Yes. That was right before I found out the previous carrier had not released the phone properly. Getting that done quickly involved threatening the old carrier with the better business bureau.
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So now I do not have any service, what do i need to do? I also edited some stuff through DFS CDMA Tool. However i did a factory hard reset on it so I do not know what.
I Searched the forum but could not find an answer. I have been out of the ROM game for a few years. I know what I did was ill advised, please be merciful
I bought a Verizon Pixel 6 Pro off of Facebook. I knew to check that the IMEI was not on the stolen list and verified that it was paid off, but I get en error when I put my Visible Sim card in the phone. It says "Sim card isn't supported. Ask Verizon if this device can be unlocked."
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I called Verizon and the rep said that if I wait 60 days from the phone's original activation it should unlock automatically even though I don't have Verizon Service. The Rep said that I could use this device on Verizon Prepaid or regular service, but I have $5 months for referrals on Visible, that I would lose if I switched.
The Rep also said that you can request an unlock since the phone was paid off and IMEI was clear, but that I could not because in their system I was not the phone's owner. They could not tell me the date when the phone was activated because it would be a privacy issue.
I tried to work it out with the person I bought the phone from to get them to request the unlock, but got ghosted.
Questions:
1.) Does anyone know if it is true that my phone will unlock after 60 days without Verizon Service?
2.) If I put the phone on Verizon PrePaid service for 60 days, would that count as service and get it unlocked?
3.) If I activate on Verizon Prepaid or activate on no contract post paid will it take the last owner of the phone off of their "record" at Verizon so I can just request that the carrier lock be removed myself?
Thank you!
PS Once I get this figured out I will post what happened for anyone else that might run into this in the future.
As far as I was aware, all Verizon phones are carrier (erroneously called SIM) unlocked from the start. I've been away from Verizon for 5+ years, though, so that might've changed.
Note that just as has been said multiple times in multiple threads in this section (and every other possible phone section), that carrier unlock won't be the same as bootloader unlock, which will be impossible except by winning some kind of rare bootloader lottery, per se. (effectively never).
It's possible you don't want to unlock the bootloader since you only mention carrier unlocking, but I just wanted to head that part off just in case that's where you end up leading the conversation, so forgive me if I'm mistaken.
Hopefully, someone else with modern experience with Verizon can answer your two specific questions, however.
roirraW edor ehT said:
As far as I was aware, all Verizon phones are carrier (erroneously called SIM) unlocked from the start. I've been away from Verizon for 5+ years, though, so that might've changed.
Note that just as has been said multiple times in multiple threads in this section (and every other possible phone section), that carrier unlock won't be the same as bootloader unlock, which will be impossible except by winning some kind of rare bootloader lottery, per se. (effectively never).
It's possible you don't want to unlock the bootloader since you only mention carrier unlocking, but I just wanted to head that part off just in case that's where you end up leading the conversation, so forgive me if I'm mistaken.
Hopefully, someone else with modern experience with Verizon can answer your two specific questions, however.
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Having ROM'ed lots of phones years ago, it was my first though to be able to change it by modifying the bootloader and/or firmware. I quickly ruled that out with the search feature before posting. (bummer)
I do appreciate you pointing this out to keep this thread on track. I witnessed some of the other disasters in my searching.
Yeah it’s true Verizon locks their phone for 60 days to their network and then unlocks it automatically. I’m not exactly sure if the device has to be continuously active though to be unlocked but I know that it had to be activated and used on their network to start the timer.
What you can try doing is to use online unlock services like drsim and try to get in unlocked with imei number. It’s not free but it might be worth it if you don’t wanna wait.
Is the 60 day unlock based on network checks? Or is it something really stupid like based on the system DATE? Might be worth trying to set the clock ahead and see if that fixes it.
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Is the 60 day unlock based on network checks? Or is it something really stupid like based on the system DATE? Might be worth trying to set the clock ahead and see if that fixes it.
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I'm not sure if its based on network checks or something else. I did try to set the date ahead (2 months and a few days out) and it gave me the same message with the Visible sim card.
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Yeah it’s true Verizon locks their phone for 60 days to their network and then unlocks it automatically. I’m not exactly sure if the device has to be continuously active though to be unlocked but I know that it had to be activated and used on their network to start the timer.
What you can try doing is to use online unlock services like drsim and try to get in unlocked with imei number. It’s not free but it might be worth it if you don’t wanna wait.
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Thanks for the suggestion. I did try a couple unlock services, and they say they can't do it when I enter my info.
so what happened here i have the same issue but i got it from google and they mistakenly sent me the Verizon model
in my case the phone is new
billycar11 said:
so what happened here i have the same issue but i got it from google and they mistakenly sent me the Verizon model
in my case the phone is new
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You don't want a Verizon version... return it and get what you meant to get.
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You don't want a Verizon version... return it and get what you meant to get.
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Yeah it sucks about the locked bootloader and junk but google won't exchange it for me even though the order say unlocked and I have this.
Because it's past 15 days.
Anyway I had to call vzw like 50 time only to be told 49 times if I don't have an account we can't help you bye. It took 7 hours of calling.
I finally got them to give me a complementary esim to unlock it and now it's ok
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Yeah it sucks about the locked bootloader and junk but google won't exchange it for me even though the order say unlocked and I have this.
Because it's past 15 days.
Anyway I had to call vzw like 50 time only to be told 49 times if I don't have an account we can't help you bye. It took 7 hours of calling.
I finally got them to give me a complementary esim to unlock it and now it's ok
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That's ridiculous... they don't have a choice, 15 days or not unless you are not saying something relevant to the story.
If you ordered A and they shipped B... they have to fix it. Dispute the charge with your credit card company if needed.
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I Searched the forum but could not find an answer. I have been out of the ROM game for a few years. I know what I did was ill advised, please be merciful
I bought a Verizon Pixel 6 Pro off of Facebook. I knew to check that the IMEI was not on the stolen list and verified that it was paid off, but I get en error when I put my Visible Sim card in the phone. It says "Sim card isn't supported. Ask Verizon if this device can be unlocked."
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I called Verizon and the rep said that if I wait 60 days from the phone's original activation it should unlock automatically even though I don't have Verizon Service. The Rep said that I could use this device on Verizon Prepaid or regular service, but I have $5 months for referrals on Visible, that I would lose if I switched.
The Rep also said that you can request an unlock since the phone was paid off and IMEI was clear, but that I could not because in their system I was not the phone's owner. They could not tell me the date when the phone was activated because it would be a privacy issue.
I tried to work it out with the person I bought the phone from to get them to request the unlock, but got ghosted.
Questions:
1.) Does anyone know if it is true that my phone will unlock after 60 days without Verizon Service?
2.) If I put the phone on Verizon PrePaid service for 60 days, would that count as service and get it unlocked?
3.) If I activate on Verizon Prepaid or activate on no contract post paid will it take the last owner of the phone off of their "record" at Verizon so I can just request that the carrier lock be removed myself?
Thank you!
PS Once I get this figured out I will post what happened for anyone else that might run into this in the future.
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Did you ever figure this out? I bought a used s22+, checked with 4 different Verizon reps and they said they phone is unlocked. But of course I cant use it on another network (have tried on MintMobile which is Tmobile now). It just says "this phone cant be activated on another network"