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WM6 memory leak?

Has anyone else noticed that the memory in WM6 seems to drain as time goes on? I have tried closing all open apps through the task manager (Dash), but at the end of the day there only seems to be about 3k max of memory left? Although WM6 seems to handle programs well at low memory, I would like to see what's causing this.
Any ideas?

I've noticed after a while it fails to display the home screen. Might be related to memory so I'll check how much is free next time that happens.

mine has never failed to show the homescreen, but i use the default wm theme. i have read about others that have had the disappearing homescreen when using the windows live theme

Yeah. The leak is awful. I have deleted all kinds of stuff, but even with Oxios Close, I can't get above 10000 after half a day, and have to restart.

Might be similar to what Vista does... uses up all available memory for caching... and if more is needed, it just flushes some of the cache to fit it in.
Not a bad idea, since it speeds up frequently used programs.

i know i sound like a noob this is the first time i ever ask something like this but where did you all fine ur wm6 for ur dash thanks!!

anthoneous said:
i know i sound like a noob this is the first time i ever ask something like this but where did you all fine ur wm6 for ur dash thanks!!
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follow this link and click the rapidshare link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293846&page=5

I have also noticed this leak problem. It gets down to 4MB memory and quiting all problems using spb pocket plus does not clear any memory. Only a soft reset fixes it.
I can see how it's a good idea in terms of caching but that only seems to work until the memory gets down to 4M then any new apps running become painfully slow and sometimes the phone appears to have hung completely.
closing all apps in WM5 used to free back up to ~24MB

nahguam said:
I have also noticed this leak problem. It gets down to 4MB memory and quiting all problems using spb pocket plus does not clear any memory. Only a soft reset fixes it.
I can see how it's a good idea in terms of caching but that only seems to work until the memory gets down to 4M then any new apps running become painfully slow and sometimes the phone appears to have hung completely.
closing all apps in WM5 used to free back up to ~24MB
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I don't have any of the problems with painfully slow apps, even when there is no free memory. I'm pretty sure it's not a memory leak, and is just caching.

I get the same thing...
I have made it a habbit to hit back after every thing I do, it helps.
Also when you go to task manager and you want to stop programs stop them all individually then click stop all, that seems to help me a bit.
I used to get 3k free by doing stop all now i get over 9k most of the time when i stop em one by one then doing stop all.
We need to plug this leak up!!

I have the same problem with the "official" wm6 from T-Mobile. They didn't fix this issue with the official version.

leak on rogers rom
Easiest said is Ditto with the rogers wm6 rom.

Serious memory leaks on the Dash

My Dash suffers from serious memory leaks. Just looked at task manager (because no apps would run due to low memory) and it has just 200kb available.
I have no apps installed on the device itself.
Shutting down all programs returns just 500kb.
If I reboot the phone I get 21,000kb available, but give it time and it will all have leaked away again.
I've had many different WM smartphones and they have never done this.
A great product with buggy software

Odd... this isn't an issue on my WM6 Dash...
Pagemakers said:
My Dash suffers from serious memory leaks. Just looked at task manager (because no apps would run due to low memory) and it has just 200kb available.
I have no apps installed on the device itself.
Shutting down all programs returns just 500kb.
If I reboot the phone I get 21,000kb available, but give it time and it will all have leaked away again.
I've had many different WM smartphones and they have never done this.
A great product with buggy software
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Strange. Others are saying the same thing http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=255238&hl=memory (toward bottom of page).
I find that even if I quit all programs using task manager I am not returned to the same amount of memory as when I first boot up. Sometimes it can be as low as half or a quarter.

Guess I'm lucky. I disabled a couple things in the startup folder, MyFav and the voice recognition program, things became a lot zippier after that.
Pagemakers said:
Strange. Others are saying the same thing http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=255238&hl=memory (toward bottom of page).
I find that even if I quit all programs using task manager I am not returned to the same amount of memory as when I first boot up. Sometimes it can be as low as half or a quarter.
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ya i have the same problem ( i de-activated myfaves and voice command) and when i boot up i have about 21K of free memory. a little while later i re-check my memory and its around 18K! towards end of day, even with all programs closed through task manager, i only have about 9K left. i dunno, its ridiculous. now i always turn it off for a few minutes at night, ha but then i run the risk of getting that endless boot up loop....

omaralt said:
ya i have the same problem ( i de-activated myfaves and voice command) and when i boot up i have about 21K of free memory. a little while later i re-check my memory and its around 18K! towards end of day, even with all programs closed through task manager, i only have about 9K left. i dunno, its ridiculous. now i always turn it off for a few minutes at night, ha but then i run the risk of getting that endless boot up loop....
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I also have this problem. One of the reasons I don't like Windows Mobile.

I wonder if it is leaking from IE. My Temporary Internet Folder never gets higher than a few k. On WM5 this could be several megs in size.

Anyone else getting memory problem on the WM6 Dash?

Use Oxios CloseApps...it helps a little
I'm fully resolved to the fact that it's just a combination of an OS that doesn't really manage memory well combined with applications that don't really clean up after themselves well either.
So, to make it through the day, I use Oxios CloseApps throughout the day. It seems to be the best at recouping memory. It's free (bonus!) and is very simple to use. You run it and it tells you how much memory it gained back and then you hit "ok" so it closes. Easy.
I'm also fully resolved that I have to reboot my Dash 1-3 times a day depending on how intensely I'm using it.
Welcome to the world of WinCE/PPC/Windows Mobile/Windows Mobile Smartphone/WM6!
C.

Your home screen plugin can affect your memory usage as well.

I had the same problem with mine which actually led me to return it. It was actually for several reasons, but particularly I felt like I was sitting in front of an old 386 backtracking my steps making sure I don't run out of memory like in Windows 3.1.
For one, I couldn't install the software I wanted to install on it even after registry tweaks and unlocks. The memory leak got a lot worse once I upgraded to WM6. Most of the time after multi-tasking for a bit, my memory stayed around 10MB with ONE application running. If I surfed the internet for 5-10, it usually made the drain even worse by a couple more MB and I had to reboot.
What actually broke the camel's back was when I went to send an MMS to someone and the file was at 356K. No big deal, it gave me the option to resize. Yeah. The resize neverworked the way it was supposed to. It didn't matter how low I picked the options. I picked 160 X XXX with extremely low quality and it would come up with a message telling me "Your message is 356K so it cannot be sent." and plop me right out of the message and I would have to go dig for it on my card again! (Still couldn't resize it though)
I'm very good at managing memory and getting around bugs, but that was just a little too much for a cell phone. Don't get me wrong. I love the phone! I HATE the software/OS! Would've been the perfect phone had it not been for the leaks, even if I couldn't install the software I wanted to!

Wow. I'm not going mad!
They are exactly the same issues as I am having.

maruichan what was the problem like with WM5?

Memory
I'm using Fizz Monitor to really shut down the applications.

corfou said:
I'm using Fizz Monitor to really shut down the applications.
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Does it help to stop the memory leaking??
Is it better than oxios?

I don't even look at the free memory- my MDA Mail never slows down or crashes no matter how small the memory gets. I used to constantly check the memory on other devices but for Smartphone it does not seem to matter as much.
When you get a 'problem' with lack of memory it is a problem, otherwise just ignore it...

friends stream doesnt update under low storage

Basically, my desire seems to constantly be suffering from low storage issues due the desires complete inability to install apps to the SD card ... and i only have about 6 apps installed (bring in Freya!!)
I have a cache cleaner but that doesnt free up enough space
anyway, the problem is that the friend stream widget i have on one of my homepages doesnt update when the phone has low storage...has anyone else seen this or know how to fix it?

Yep, I had the same issue a few days ago. At first I was confused as all other data services were working fine, Facebook was also working fine using the Android app.
Had to remove a few apps and Friends Stream starting working again. Phone storage was down to 12 MB; it's been at roughly 16MB since then.

this really sux, ive uninstalled everything i dont really use and still only got 13 or sometimes 14mb left and cant get it above 15.
was there any QA done on this phone at all? Ive got a background in QA and i find it so hard to think that testers could miss this many simple bugs on a phone

irt sucks right? in the same boat now.... lame... some things about this phone (which I love) are starting to really annoy me.
inability to shut down without pulling the battery out. DUH
inability to push gmail or friendstream due to low space DUH

mcgon1979 said:
irt sucks right? in the same boat now.... lame... some things about this phone (which I love) are starting to really annoy me.
inability to shut down without pulling the battery out. DUH
inability to push gmail or friendstream due to low space DUH
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Maybe try holding the button on the top for a while then a menu will pop up which will allow you to shut down

[Q] replacement battery problems (not related to quick draining)

hey,
so my girlfriend has a droid incredible, not rooted, and many times when she switches to her bak up battery AND BACK, her apps delete. many times she has to re-download her apps and they're not even listed under her apps in the market. she turns off the phone before ripping the battery out and changing it, but she still has the issue. the battery is supposedly OEM, and purchased off eBay. its black considering its an evo battery and it reads HTC innovation on the battery. in any case, as i mentioned before, it happens when she switches back to her regular battery as well. in addition the widgets read "problem loading gadget". (obviously because the app has deleted)
anyone have any solutions to solving this or why this might e happening. to my understanding these batteries should yield no problems. also, this is not the first time this has happened it has happened alot. perhaps if there is no direct solution, maybe i can find an app to make sure none of my apps get deleted during the transfer process? let me know,
thanks
if anyone can help i also have minor issue on my dinc with the generic batteries i ordered from ebay that when i plug it in, the battery has an exclamation point. anyway to get rid of this? its not too annoying because i use mini info widget anyway, but id rather have it solved.
thanks again
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If they're on the SD card it'll often take a few minutes for it to load up.
The problem looks like it's from the SD card, maybe it's having some issues or maybe she's accidentally knocking it out of place when she switches batteries.

POQbum said:
If they're on the SD card it'll often take a few minutes for it to load up.
The problem looks like it's from the SD card, maybe it's having some issues or maybe she's accidentally knocking it out of place when she switches batteries.
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the problem seems to be deeper than that. shes definitely not knocking out the sd card cuz its always stable. besides this is a problem for every app thats not stock. she doesnt have ALL apps2sd anyway.
if it helps.. some apps stay some apps go, but for the ones that stay, they force close. ie. hopstop wasnt deleted but FC. in addition she would re download twitter and that would FC. to confuse you even more shazam was not deleted or reinstalled but still works (all data was deleted tho)

Sounds weird. I know this is a long shot that you will actually try it, but it sounds like it'd be a good idea to reinstall that phone.
It's been known that there are a couple of mallicous apps (now removed from the market) but it's *possible* she may have downloaded one of them and that is causing a lot of the issues. It may just be some weird data corruption in important system files, it's hard to tell with just what you're telling me but as long as she doesn't mind it- reinstalling with a fresh ROM and kernel would be a good start and likely will fix the problem.
Apps can still be backed up via titanium backup, and there's apps for backing up messages and you can sync contacts to either verizon or your google account.
Just a thought.

Very, very low I/O scores

I have searched, and while I've found people posting "low" I/O scores, none are even close to mine. I did read through about 5 threads, just so no one gets angry.
First off, my phone is stock. About four months old, and up until a week ago, it worked fine. Now it is incredibly slow. It takes about 40-60 seconds to open Facebook. It takes about 35 seconds to get a song to start playing. Browsing the web is just awful, and laggy, and freezes all the time. I see the "This app has stopped responding" dialog every few minutes for all my apps. Even launcher freezes.
AnTuTu I/O benchmarks average around 200-300
Quadrant is about 800
From what I see this is much lower than it is supposed to be, and my phone is much, much slower than it was a week ago. I am new to Android, but am kind of wishing I still had my iPhone, so I could just throw my SIM in there while I'm on vacation.
Also, I checked my CPU load, and depending on the time of day, when I turn my phone on, it is anywhere between 5 and 10. Once (with all apps closed), it was 16. That seems insanely high when you aren't using your phone. I remember checking it about a month ago and it was in the range of 1-2.
Thanks for the help, guys. My phone has basically become unusable. I can barely make calls, and texting is so slow, I've basically stopped responding. Forget about doing emails with my phone.
It's still on warranty. Is this possibly a physical problem? Should I bring it back to my provider and show them how it takes a minute to open an app, and then just switch it? How do you back up and Android phone? I know my iPhone was as simple as plugging it into my computer (iTunes would backup automatically).
Thanks a million!
Also: When I reboot the phone, it takes sometimes up to 10 minutes after the lockscreen shows up for it to become usable. Any widgets are "loading", and the homescreens are quite unresponsive. Any notifications show up after 10-15 minutes instead of after 1 minute, like before. If I try to open apps before I let the phone sit for 10-15 minutes, it will not register most of my presses, and the apps often will not even open.

Try cleaning cache or freeing some space on internal SD

Godra said:
Try cleaning cache or freeing some space on internal SD
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How do you clean cache when you'r completly stock?
Anyway, did this appear after you installed a certain app or just "out of nowhere" ? How much of your storage is filled? 10 - 50 - 80 %?

Doomhamma said:
How do you clean cache when you'r completly stock?
Anyway, did this appear after you installed a certain app or just "out of nowhere" ? How much of your storage is filled? 10 - 50 - 80 %?
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In 4.2,
Settings -> Storage -> Tap on cached data.
In 4.1, I have no idea of doing it without the use of another app.
Some are reporting once you have less than 3GB space, you get massive slow downs with the newer eMMC chips on the newer batch of Galaxy Nexus.
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Some are reporting once you have less than 3GB space, you get massive slow downs with the newer eMMC chips on the newer batch of Galaxy Nexus.
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I know, that's why I asked how much free space does he have

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In response to some of the questions:
The problem appeared out of nowhere. It wasn't after installing a particular app, and can't be traced back to something specific. I have 3.35GB of free space on a 16GB model, so it is mostly full. I've deleted some videos, so now I have 4.23GB available. We'll see if things speed up.
Also, I am running 4.1.1, so I can't clear my cache. At least I don't know how to clear my cache. Maybe someone can inform me.

Doesn't really seem to help. One thing though, I deleted all the songs from a 10 song album by tapping and holding on each song, waiting for the popup menu, hitting delete, and then okay. I did this to all 10 songs before they started to disappear from the list. So, basically 3MB songs were taking 20 seconds each to be deleted from the phone. I once deleted an album this way when I had first gotten the phone, and each song deleted as soon as I pressed okay.
There appears to be something very wrong with my phone.

i would try a factory reset. you wont lose your items in storage, and your apps should get reinstalled..

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i would try a factory reset. you wont lose your items in storage, and your apps should get reinstalled..
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Thanks for that. It told me that it would erase all my photos and music. I'd rather not lose my photos, music, and all that. Also, what about my texts? I'd rather not lose my texts.

shao3m said:
Thanks for that. It told me that it would erase all my photos and music. I'd rather not lose my photos, music, and all that. Also, what about my texts? I'd rather not lose my texts.
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speaking of texts, do you have an abnormal amount of saved texts? ive heard of way to many saved texts causing slowdowns.

So i deleted most of my texts and changed the limit from 1000 to 400. I don't think I had that many though.
After all this work to try and improve my IO, AnTuTu now gives me an IO score of 107 down from about 250.
I should note that I downloaded the xda app, and it took about 6 minutes to open. It was just sitting at a black screen until anything actually happened.

shao3m said:
So i deleted most of my texts and changed the limit from 1000 to 400. I don't think I had that many though.
After all this work to try and improve my IO, AnTuTu now gives me an IO score of 107 down from about 250.
I should note that I downloaded the xda app, and it took about 6 minutes to open. It was just sitting at a black screen until anything actually happened.
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did you reboot first?

I rebooted and now it's 205. Still worse than when I originally tested it.

Backup everything to ur pc and do a factory reset
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Oh my goodness. I did a factory reset. Backed up some things. At least getting (most) stuff back is relatively easy.
The IO score is up from 200 to 882 on AnTuTu.
I guess this is good. I don't know really what to think though. I didn't really do anything specific to "break" it. I never had problems like this on my iPhone. I feel like I'm dealing with a really delicate file system here. It isn't really the solution I was looking for, but it worked. Thanks for the help.

with root, you could have done some basic maintenance, without losing your imported data, that would have fixed your problem. like wiping you cache and dalvik. usually the problem is corrupted data somewhere.

I think you can wipe the cache on stock from the stock recovery
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Kind of silly.
iPhone: jailbreak for functionality
Android: root so it doesn't break

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Kind of silly.
iPhone: jailbreak for functionality
Android: root so it doesn't break
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Can't tell if trolling or stupid.
If that's the reason somebody is rooting for they need to stay on stock. Rooting is there to add functionality. Jailbreaking adds functionality Android has out of the box.