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Serious memory leaks on the Dash

My Dash suffers from serious memory leaks. Just looked at task manager (because no apps would run due to low memory) and it has just 200kb available.
I have no apps installed on the device itself.
Shutting down all programs returns just 500kb.
If I reboot the phone I get 21,000kb available, but give it time and it will all have leaked away again.
I've had many different WM smartphones and they have never done this.
A great product with buggy software

Odd... this isn't an issue on my WM6 Dash...
Pagemakers said:
My Dash suffers from serious memory leaks. Just looked at task manager (because no apps would run due to low memory) and it has just 200kb available.
I have no apps installed on the device itself.
Shutting down all programs returns just 500kb.
If I reboot the phone I get 21,000kb available, but give it time and it will all have leaked away again.
I've had many different WM smartphones and they have never done this.
A great product with buggy software
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Strange. Others are saying the same thing http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=255238&hl=memory (toward bottom of page).
I find that even if I quit all programs using task manager I am not returned to the same amount of memory as when I first boot up. Sometimes it can be as low as half or a quarter.

Guess I'm lucky. I disabled a couple things in the startup folder, MyFav and the voice recognition program, things became a lot zippier after that.
Pagemakers said:
Strange. Others are saying the same thing http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=255238&hl=memory (toward bottom of page).
I find that even if I quit all programs using task manager I am not returned to the same amount of memory as when I first boot up. Sometimes it can be as low as half or a quarter.
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ya i have the same problem ( i de-activated myfaves and voice command) and when i boot up i have about 21K of free memory. a little while later i re-check my memory and its around 18K! towards end of day, even with all programs closed through task manager, i only have about 9K left. i dunno, its ridiculous. now i always turn it off for a few minutes at night, ha but then i run the risk of getting that endless boot up loop....

omaralt said:
ya i have the same problem ( i de-activated myfaves and voice command) and when i boot up i have about 21K of free memory. a little while later i re-check my memory and its around 18K! towards end of day, even with all programs closed through task manager, i only have about 9K left. i dunno, its ridiculous. now i always turn it off for a few minutes at night, ha but then i run the risk of getting that endless boot up loop....
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I also have this problem. One of the reasons I don't like Windows Mobile.

I wonder if it is leaking from IE. My Temporary Internet Folder never gets higher than a few k. On WM5 this could be several megs in size.

Anyone else getting memory problem on the WM6 Dash?

Use Oxios CloseApps...it helps a little
I'm fully resolved to the fact that it's just a combination of an OS that doesn't really manage memory well combined with applications that don't really clean up after themselves well either.
So, to make it through the day, I use Oxios CloseApps throughout the day. It seems to be the best at recouping memory. It's free (bonus!) and is very simple to use. You run it and it tells you how much memory it gained back and then you hit "ok" so it closes. Easy.
I'm also fully resolved that I have to reboot my Dash 1-3 times a day depending on how intensely I'm using it.
Welcome to the world of WinCE/PPC/Windows Mobile/Windows Mobile Smartphone/WM6!
C.

Your home screen plugin can affect your memory usage as well.

I had the same problem with mine which actually led me to return it. It was actually for several reasons, but particularly I felt like I was sitting in front of an old 386 backtracking my steps making sure I don't run out of memory like in Windows 3.1.
For one, I couldn't install the software I wanted to install on it even after registry tweaks and unlocks. The memory leak got a lot worse once I upgraded to WM6. Most of the time after multi-tasking for a bit, my memory stayed around 10MB with ONE application running. If I surfed the internet for 5-10, it usually made the drain even worse by a couple more MB and I had to reboot.
What actually broke the camel's back was when I went to send an MMS to someone and the file was at 356K. No big deal, it gave me the option to resize. Yeah. The resize neverworked the way it was supposed to. It didn't matter how low I picked the options. I picked 160 X XXX with extremely low quality and it would come up with a message telling me "Your message is 356K so it cannot be sent." and plop me right out of the message and I would have to go dig for it on my card again! (Still couldn't resize it though)
I'm very good at managing memory and getting around bugs, but that was just a little too much for a cell phone. Don't get me wrong. I love the phone! I HATE the software/OS! Would've been the perfect phone had it not been for the leaks, even if I couldn't install the software I wanted to!

Wow. I'm not going mad!
They are exactly the same issues as I am having.

maruichan what was the problem like with WM5?

Memory
I'm using Fizz Monitor to really shut down the applications.

corfou said:
I'm using Fizz Monitor to really shut down the applications.
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Does it help to stop the memory leaking??
Is it better than oxios?

I don't even look at the free memory- my MDA Mail never slows down or crashes no matter how small the memory gets. I used to constantly check the memory on other devices but for Smartphone it does not seem to matter as much.
When you get a 'problem' with lack of memory it is a problem, otherwise just ignore it...

Lets debate about Memory Leakage !!!

Here fellows,
Memory leakage is an issue already known from us all.
In all roms that I've tried until now, soon or later that issue comes up. I haven't understood right why it happens...
It's strange that some of us have and others don't...which lead me to think that it could be a hardware issue....
However, it's strange why it happens. I haven't found yet which application provokes it...
This is the reason why I've created this thread: To discuss/share our experiences, and figure our a pattern. It could happen that we find the reason, and it would help our cookers to solve the problem once and for all...
Please give us your thoughts

Well then there is a prime canidate Explorer, ever tried using the program for more than 10 minutes the whole phone then grind to a halt as the memory is used up.
One soloution seems to be to move the internet cache to the memory card or indeed disable the cache altogether..
The only way I found to do this was to Use Schaps Advance Configuration Tool.
Thats the only problem with memory I have come across.. even my GPS programs work fine only problems seem to be round the official MS crap...

Some people gets it and some people don't because everyone uses different applications... not necessarily hardware issues
SPB software, as good as they are, is quite well known for creating memory leaks.

Generally the HTC Home plugin is also a memory leakage issue, if you try to deactivate it on your roms, you will see that the available memory will remain in good levels around the 20mb region, once you activate it, by the end of the day and depending on the usage you do, it often drops the memory down to 14mb, unable to use a navigation programm or any other memory consuming programms leading in that way to a compulsory soft reset!!!
Ask therefore the people with Kaiser, do they experience the same problem with their devices???? The solution is around the HTC HOME I believe...

Mem leak
The memory leak problem is inherent in WM6, and not due to any particular application that uses that OS.

there is a very simple way to troubleshoot this
Test 1: Reboot the phone, check memory, leave it unused for 24 hours, then check memory and compare
Test 2: Reboot the phone, check memory, leave it on for 24 hours, while only calling, not using any other feature
Test 3: and so forth
In other words, only use 1 app for 24 hours, this way you can easily find which programs leak memory
Although it seems like internet explorer steals all the ram it actually doesnt, it seems to return the ram after 15+ minutes (so when i check ram some time later it will be back to +/- 20mb)

romac said:
The memory leak problem is inherent in WM6, and not due to any particular application that uses that OS.
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Let's call this BULL ****!
bepe 0.77 is steady as a rock on it's memory usage.

I was already suspicious about HTC home...that it could be the reason...However, I find it strange...Because I installed also AX3L rom, which doesn't have HTC Home, and I had rom leakage also...
If Bepe rom 0.77 is stable, then it would be good to know what it has so different from his other roms....
Who knows if the solution isn't right in front of our eyes, and we just haven't seen it yet...?....
Bye

s1rl4ncel0t said:
Who knows if the solution isn't right in front of our eyes, and we just haven't seen it yet...?....
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Read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1537977&postcount=943
Maybe is resetting, flashing, etc. not the right thing to do. After awhile it look like bepe 0.79 light gives memory back.
I've disabled HTC home, but not because of the memory leakage. I've disabled it because it goes into vibrate on appointments which are set te FREE time (not only busy).

Probably there's a registry key that defines how long it takes to the operating system to release the the used memory...

Even without anything running only the memory meter in the setting after 5 minutes or so you will notice less memory is available, I have noticed that HTC Home Plugin seems to leak too..

romac said:
The memory leak problem is inherent in WM6, and not due to any particular application that uses that OS.
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The only rom I haven't used is bepe's and the memory leakage occurs on any of them (indigo,axels,pdavanet,mary's,Lwsw, mun's ...) I now returned to wm5 and I always have at least 20MB free even after 2-3 days of usage, I do use the exact same programs that while using on wm6, my ram dropped even to 16MB free

A Myriad of Problems

I suppose I should state I'm running NRG Rose Rom v1.7, and my Dash is about a year and a half old.
Mainly and most annoying, is a terrible memory leak. It seems that after an hour of being on, my phone will drop down to about .60 MB of RAM and ultimately freeze. I'm habitual about closing programs and using the free memory function in Celetask. After awhile, even that wont bring back any memory at all, sometimes it takes memory away and makes the phone freeze.
Now, I'm noticing that my phone is just randomly shutting off. (When ever it feels is most inconvenient to me, it seems.) Now, I don't know if this is due to a failing battery, or my poor elderly Dash's long life, but some insight would be wonderful.
Even after clearing the storage the phone was laggy. I'm thinking that my Dash's days are numbered now, but I really hope not. I love this phone, and I don't have any money to get a new phone right now.

My Phone is freezing alot as well. It seems like every other time I go to wake the phone up from its lock mode it freezes up. I'm using Kavana's 6.1 rom. I as well use Celetask to quit running processes but even when nothing is open and running the phone freezes.

try the newest kavana rom based on chinese rom...it manage alot better memory...

Yeah, this is getting annoying. My phone has froze twice since I posted this thread.

Same problem for me with the Rose ROM. Kavana's 0123 ROM is a lot stabler. Give it a try.

thats why i dont use the rose program no more it made my phone heat up and crap

Donaldpilger said:
I suppose I should state I'm running NRG Rose Rom v1.7, and my Dash is about a year and a half old.
Mainly and most annoying, is a terrible memory leak. It seems that after an hour of being on, my phone will drop down to about .60 MB of RAM and ultimately freeze. I'm habitual about closing programs and using the free memory function in Celetask. After awhile, even that wont bring back any memory at all, sometimes it takes memory away and makes the phone freeze.
Now, I'm noticing that my phone is just randomly shutting off. (When ever it feels is most inconvenient to me, it seems.) Now, I don't know if this is due to a failing battery, or my poor elderly Dash's long life, but some insight would be wonderful.
Even after clearing the storage the phone was laggy. I'm thinking that my Dash's days are numbered now, but I really hope not. I love this phone, and I don't have any money to get a new phone right now.
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Try downloading and installing original ROM and see if problem persists. If not, It´s probably the rom itself.
Alternatively, you can try OXIOS MEMORY (Official site is down as i´m writing this) to see if things get right.
I´ve tried all flavors of rom, and the best one for me (when you talk about resources and funcionality) is Ricky´s version of Kavana´s.
NRG´s rom is awesome, full of funcionalities, but it didn´t work for me.
Regards.

Thanks to everyone for their suggestions, I'll try what I can tonight if I end up back at home.

i had that problem when i change the page pool to 4 mb but i reflash and the problem stopped. maybe it can help you

i feel your pain with the memory leaks... im pretty on top of things when it comes to watching what programs i have open. but with NRGs ROse ROM, i have had to reset very often to avoid loss of data. I use my phone often to take notes and update spreadsheets while out and about working. Having the phone lockup and have to remove the battery only to lose the latest data ive either input, or loose a few conversations on sms, it is wearing on me.
i am going to install Rickys version on Kavanas ROM, lateset release, to try that one again. I dont remember having the same leaks in memory as NRGs. Wasn't the Rose version supposed to be "lite?" While i did enjoy alot of the apps that came "stock" with NRGs version, the memory leak is a drain on me as well as my phone!

Does anyone know the proper way to close a program? I'm tired of having to go into the task manager to close them.

That is the proper way

NRGZ28 said:
That is the proper way
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Chuckle Chuckle
Or you can use SmartToolKit to which will let you close programs with right softkey "Search this forum" as have posted several times

Am I the only one who has touch-screen problems with the vogue on/off? Seriously..

I had one before, dropped it a few times.. I wrote it off as that being why, well I just got a replacement one sent.. haven't dropped it once, it's been here only about 2 weeks
Randomly sometimes it won't respond to almost anything.. I'll be trying to slide the screen, it either won't at all or will go halfway like I barely touched it. I'll try clicking on things, programs, start, whatever... it'll not respond at all, I end up having to press with way more pressure than I should have to, way more.
Then sometimes without even a reset it'll start working just about normally again.. but that's rarely, usually I'll soft reset or pull the battery for a second and then it'll be fine.. for days even.. then I'll run into it again..
I noticed 2-3 times it was because I had **** updating at the time (motweets) or was receiving email.. but I've since made everything manual regarding email, and motweets updates once every 15 minutes and the amount of tweets is limited so it's not a lot..
Still, I run into this problem, and I've made sure it wasn't a program updating but I can't think of what else would make this happen, am I the only one??
Is it because there's a way to clear cache on internets and other programs and I have no idea how? (I fully close them, that's not the problem, I know my Vogue I just can't figure this out an it seems nobody else has this problem).. Not to mention I have my internet cache's directed to my storage card so as to keep my phone memory as free'd up as possible
If anyone can help..

mine is unresponsive sometimes and i have to tap on the back of the phone to get to work again. i thinks its going out soon

That's what I thought about my old one, I figured I had dropped it to much.. because I did lol but now I got a new one 2 weeks old and I'm running into the SAME problems.. I'm assuming I must be doing something wrong with how I've got **** set-up

j18yo said:
I had one before, dropped it a few times.. I wrote it off as that being why, well I just got a replacement one sent.. haven't dropped it once, it's been here only about 2 weeks
Randomly sometimes it won't respond to almost anything.. I'll be trying to slide the screen, it either won't at all or will go halfway like I barely touched it. I'll try clicking on things, programs, start, whatever... it'll not respond at all, I end up having to press with way more pressure than I should have to, way more.
Then sometimes without even a reset it'll start working just about normally again.. but that's rarely, usually I'll soft reset or pull the battery for a second and then it'll be fine.. for days even.. then I'll run into it again..
I noticed 2-3 times it was because I had **** updating at the time (motweets) or was receiving email.. but I've since made everything manual regarding email, and motweets updates once every 15 minutes and the amount of tweets is limited so it's not a lot..
Still, I run into this problem, and I've made sure it wasn't a program updating but I can't think of what else would make this happen, am I the only one??
Is it because there's a way to clear cache on internets and other programs and I have no idea how? (I fully close them, that's not the problem, I know my Vogue I just can't figure this out an it seems nobody else has this problem).. Not to mention I have my internet cache's directed to my storage card so as to keep my phone memory as free'd up as possible
If anyone can help..
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j18yo i think that your problem might be that to many programs run when you start your vogue that happened to me before and i hated it but then i heard of a program named "Space Reclaimer" FREE and it made my vogue much more responsive because the program stops any programs that start when you turn on your vogue or any windows mobile phone

I have the same problem usually under the same conditions. Mostly happens in the morning after the device has been off. Works fine for a few seconds then stops responding correctly i.e., the D-Pad stops scrolling correctly with a lag on touch response. I use CleanRAM and it still doesn't fix the prob once it occurs. Sometimes when I run CleanRAM it will occur. I've tried putting biotouch.exe and everyting BUT the kernel processes in the exceptions list and a Level 1 clean. Hard reset yesterday and haven't had the problem yet. If it continues to work, I'll post my settings.
BTW, I'm on a stock 6.1 ROM with a few apps.

j18yo said:
I had one before, dropped it a few times.. I wrote it off as that being why, well I just got a replacement one sent.. haven't dropped it once, it's been here only about 2 weeks
Randomly sometimes it won't respond to almost anything.. I'll be trying to slide the screen, it either won't at all or will go halfway like I barely touched it. I'll try clicking on things, programs, start, whatever... it'll not respond at all, I end up having to press with way more pressure than I should have to, way more.
Then sometimes without even a reset it'll start working just about normally again.. but that's rarely, usually I'll soft reset or pull the battery for a second and then it'll be fine.. for days even.. then I'll run into it again..
I noticed 2-3 times it was because I had **** updating at the time (motweets) or was receiving email.. but I've since made everything manual regarding email, and motweets updates once every 15 minutes and the amount of tweets is limited so it's not a lot..
Still, I run into this problem, and I've made sure it wasn't a program updating but I can't think of what else would make this happen, am I the only one??
Is it because there's a way to clear cache on internets and other programs and I have no idea how? (I fully close them, that's not the problem, I know my Vogue I just can't figure this out an it seems nobody else has this problem).. Not to mention I have my internet cache's directed to my storage card so as to keep my phone memory as free'd up as possible
If anyone can help..
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What ROM are you running? I asume that wehn your new device came you loaded it the same as the old one. It has to be something with the ROM you are runnning or a problem with a program causing your issue.

My phone would do this periodically too, with Vin's latest ROMs. I turned off Manila and am running Titanium now. Interestingly - no lags when unlocking since. I'll keep Titanium on for some time to see if that makes it go away. I had an issue with both his current v2 and v4 (which I am running now).

Ive had to replace my screen twice and the whole phone once because of touch screen problems. Thank God for the insurance.

Ah yes... to what OP mentioned:
I do not beleive it is a more pressure thing. I do not think it is more pressure that is required but rather that the phone is non responsive. If you are unlocking and typing a PIN, it takes the PIN and all but it takes perhaps one digit every 5 seconds. That's my experience anyway. So it is just slower, as if something was consuming the CPU and UI is not responsive.

crazylegs91 said:
I have the same problem usually under the same conditions. Mostly happens in the morning after the device has been off. Works fine for a few seconds then stops responding correctly i.e., the D-Pad stops scrolling correctly with a lag on touch response. I use CleanRAM and it still doesn't fix the prob once it occurs. Sometimes when I run CleanRAM it will occur. I've tried putting biotouch.exe and everyting BUT the kernel processes in the exceptions list and a Level 1 clean. Hard reset yesterday and haven't had the problem yet. If it continues to work, I'll post my settings.
BTW, I'm on a stock 6.1 ROM with a few apps.
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THIS..
It has to be the problem.. I have CleanRAM run every 12 hours or 6 hours because I figured it would help.. lol but now your saying sometimes it happens WHEN you run cleanRAM.. Im assuming it does something, or erases something it shouldnt?
This is like the 1 sole thing I have run on a schedule, I've turned off my email and everything to manual, I went into my startup folder and there was about 4-5 things I didn't need which made the battery 100% better than it was in terms of how long it lasts.. and I set-up this CleanRAM schedule on my last phone I THINK I forgot but I do know as soon as I got this 1 going I did it and I'm bout to delete the program completely and see if it'll help, I have speedbooster too which does a cleanup too I'm curious if it would have the same result..
I'll let everyone know if this ended up being my problem incase anyones in the exact same boat with the same apps
PS: I was doing level 3 cleans

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THIS..
It has to be the problem.. I have CleanRAM run every 12 hours or 6 hours because I figured it would help.. lol but now your saying sometimes it happens WHEN you run cleanRAM.. Im assuming it does something, or erases something it shouldnt?
This is like the 1 sole thing I have run on a schedule, I've turned off my email and everything to manual, I went into my startup folder and there was about 4-5 things I didn't need which made the battery 100% better than it was in terms of how long it lasts.. and I set-up this CleanRAM schedule on my last phone I THINK I forgot but I do know as soon as I got this 1 going I did it and I'm bout to delete the program completely and see if it'll help, I have speedbooster too which does a cleanup too I'm curious if it would have the same result..
I'll let everyone know if this ended up being my problem incase anyones in the exact same boat with the same apps
PS: I was doing level 3 cleans
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Update: I don't think CR erases things as much as it kills processes that won't restart. Thru trial and error, I've adjusted my CleanRAM settings to where I haven't had the problem for a couple of days. I'm able to do a Level 3 cleans on a once a night schedule and during the day if need be. In settings, I have it to close all apps, launch startup progs, and display today screen. I have no exceptions listed for either running progs or startup progs. I have the most up to date version from the OTA update in the program.
The program links in my StartUp folder are: poutlook (original on ROM), sddaemon (original on ROM), WLMUpdate (original on ROM), Glossybars.exe (I added this), biotouch.exe (I added as I thought CR killing this was the source of the problem), pocketwit.exe (I added), and SIPChange (I added).
One thing I did do was delete the link for TouchPal from the Startup folder. I did this for other reasons (I use FingerKeyBoard). Not sure if this was part of the problem.
I can scroll with d-pad and no touch lag.
On a side note, can I delete any of poutlook, sddaemon, or WLMUpdate from the startup folder to save battery power?
I'm probably just a bit above a newb so sorry if I don't make sense.
Update: Just for kicks, I deleted the links for glossybars.exe and pocketwit.exe from my StartUp and it started locking again after running CleanRAM. I put them back in and it works again even after running CleanRAM. Maybe someone with more knowledge can explain this. I'm just keeping it the way it is now...

Hmm weird that you removed something not very important like pocketwit an cleanram caused problems again.. someone has to have some info on this??
I deleted everything from my StartUp folder but my SPB Mobile Shell.. I didn't have sddaemon, but I did have poutlook and WLMUpdate both of which I deleted.. then I had some other programs that aren't necessary for the phone.. I have no problems on restart or anything, and the % showed being used is stays around the 30's now instead of 40s/50s.. and when I run programs it usually reachs 50% tops now instead of 60/70% I used to get.
PS: Pocketwit isnt bad I used to praise the program but now I've tried MoTweets and.. I can't think of the other one now.. ****.. it's really good though but it seems to use a lot more phone power than MoTweets so I went back to that.
Pocketwit kept giving me problems, started saying I need to install that NET 3.5 or whatever but when I try to it says I have a later version already so it won't install, then other times it'll work completely fine.. but MoTweets I like better anyways

Ok, I give up. I restored everything to the way I had it when it was working and now I'm having problems again. After the screen turns off and I turn it back on, it locks up and won't scroll and has the touch lag issue.
Hope someone figures this out. Shouldn't have messed with success. Good luck.

crazylegs91 said:
Ok, I give up. I restored everything to the way I had it when it was working and now I'm having problems again. After the screen turns off and I turn it back on, it locks up and won't scroll and has the touch lag issue.
Hope someone figures this out. Shouldn't have messed with success. Good luck.
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Are you running TouchFLO?
As mentioned before -for me, turning off TouchFLO (and running Titanium) fixed this 100%...

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Are you running TouchFLO?
As mentioned before -for me, turning off TouchFLO (and running Titanium) fixed this 100%...
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I'm running a stock Sprint 6.1 ROM. Thanks though.

bigboy292000 said:
Are you running TouchFLO?
As mentioned before -for me, turning off TouchFLO (and running Titanium) fixed this 100%...
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I'm not using the TouchFLO interface, does that mean its still on though?
I'm not completely up on understanding all this

This was happening with Vin's Rom for me as well. I was tripping out pressing ON so many times with no screen showing up but phone light on! I believe it could be the power settings. I disabled the "Turn off device" which I believe was mentioned in his notes about the rom.

I gave up on this problem for a while but found something when researching how to disable to cube. I used the registry edit in this thread to disable to cube post #69. I didn't do any of the other steps because I'm not having memory probs (42% with pocketwit in the bckgrd).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368269&page=7
I noticed that biotouch.exe never shows up in the running processes menu in CleanRAM and I don't have the "lock/freeze" scrolling problem any longer and I can run CleanRam without the problem occurring. I can press any item on the screen as well with no delayed response.
However, this stops you from being able to finger scroll and do the "side to side" scroll in Messaging. I never really finger scrolled and prefer using the d-pad for scrolling so losing that functionality isn't a big deal to me.
If anyone can figure out how to keep this working so smooth and have the option to finger scroll, I'd be much obliged. It just seems that biotouch.exe craps out sometimes and locks up the d-pad. If they could both work equally well....

Tilt 2 - Messaging problem and memory usage problem

I was wondering if anyone else has seen any of these 2 issues with their tilt 2. One of them is a problem, the other may just be normal.
1. Text messaging - Text messaging, as i've learned to deal with on all the winmo phones i've owned is sluggish. But this particular problem I haven't seen before. The problem is when I close out a text message and the screen goes back to the inbox. The screen freezes for a few seconds (sometimes longer than others) before I can do anything else. It's really annoying. I have attached screenshots of this. I know it's frozen because the top of the screen has not redrawn, as you can see in the screenshot.
2. It seems that there must be a memory leak somewhere as my memory usage keeps increasing, yet no programs are open or running. I have attached a screen shot of the task manager as well. As you can see it's at 86% and nothing is open.
If you have experienced this and know of a way to fix either of these, please share. By the way, i'm using a stock ROM. Thanks everyone for your help.

Normally the stock ROM´s are full of crappy apps installed by the cell providers.
Normally I reflash inmediately to a cooked ROM from the great Chefs we have here at XDA!
Those ROM¨s nomrally perform better, of course it affects the apps installed by you at the end

Has anybody experienced the text messaging issue in any of the cooked ROMS?

maybe
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Has anybody experienced the text messaging issue in any of the cooked ROMS?
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i have an at&t branded tp2 and i am running an older leo from ngrz28 (thanks by the way) and yes i stay between 59% lowest i've ever seen and 84% with nothing open. i is probably cuz the good cooks from xda shoved an elephant of a rom (really made for snapdragon prosseser with twice the speed) into the tp2 (minus all the bloatware and other crud). oh well do a lot of reading and try a few different roms to find the right one for you. good luck bro.

Thanks for the replies!
Well, it looks like I may have found a solution to both of my problems. I figured out how to get rid of the text messaging issue...for the most part. I figured out that if I leave text messaging running, once all my conversations are opened once, the lag isn't there when I close out a conversation. This lag happened to me constantly because I have my phone set to close programs completely when I tap the "X" (as opposed to minimizing...I do it so I don't end up with 10 different programs running and crashing my phone). I figured out that if I just minimize text messaging and never close it out, the lag isn't there. Must be a caching thing or something with the sms conversations.
As far as the memory issue goes I gave spb mobile shell a shot and installed the trial version. So far my memory usage has stayed at about 69%. Looks like tf3d is a memory hog.
Anyways, thanks for the replies and hopefully this information helps someone.

imeraz said:
Thanks for the replies!
Well, it looks like I may have found a solution to both of my problems. I figured out how to get rid of the text messaging issue...for the most part. I figured out that if I leave text messaging running, once all my conversations are opened once, the lag isn't there when I close out a conversation. This lag happened to me constantly because I have my phone set to close programs completely when I tap the "X" (as opposed to minimizing...I do it so I don't end up with 10 different programs running and crashing my phone). I figured out that if I just minimize text messaging and never close it out, the lag isn't there. Must be a caching thing or something with the sms conversations.
As far as the memory issue goes I gave spb mobile shell a shot and installed the trial version. So far my memory usage has stayed at about 69%. Looks like tf3d is a memory hog.
Anyways, thanks for the replies and hopefully this information helps someone.
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Memory usage / leaks depend a lot on your ROM built
I found out the same for SMS. However opening / closing a contact in the contact list takes even longer than the SMS issue and for this I havent found any solution yet

Try disabling XT9 and all the other Xt9 and predictive word settings.
This worked for me when Landscape mode and typing emails..