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Slow typing keyboard Black 2.5

Does anyone have a problem with a slow lagging keyboard while typing text messages. I noticed it after I installed the Black 2.5 rom. I have installed the keyboard mapping fix but that did not help the lagging issue.

I been typing like crazy today on my 8525/2.5 with MSN Live Messenger. Seems very fast to me..

I had the same delay...Can't remember if disabling the word completion took care of it or installing the memory performance cab from JJ that took care of it. I'm banking on the memory performance cab though.

I have noticed this issue a little bit, but if I remember correctly Ive had the problem even before isntalling any of the roms, and it only happened for the first set of characters that I types (usually the first word).
Has anyone else noticed this with the standard wm5 roms?

I've experienced the same issue.

I wonder if it was one of the patch cabs that I installed cause I have not seen a lag at all [yet]. Perhaps it is just waiting to pop up on me.

odie3 said:
I wonder if it was one of the patch cabs that I installed cause I have not seen a lag at all [yet]. Perhaps it is just waiting to pop up on me.
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Are you talking about the pop up keyboard?
I think what the OP was taliking about is that when you first start typing with the pull out keyboard there is a slight lag, like with me, I'll start typing - it hesitates - and then it like catches up. Not only that but the screen even goes dim for a moment .
I don't remember if I had this issue before or not.

Nope, I was talking about the pull out keyboard. Seems to work very well so far. I just retested it in Work and in MSN IM.

odie3;1250895 said:
Nope, I was talking about the pull out keyboard. Seems to work very well so far. I just retested it in Work and in MSN IM.
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Oh well.
I'm not going to concern myself too much with it, because I'm hoping by tomorrow I'll be running 3.0

Similiar typing issue here on 8525
I've noticed the same typing issue using both Black 1.2 and Black 2.5 were it often lags or simply skips a letter (usually "h" after "t" leaving "te" instead of "the" or "s" after "i" leaving "I" instead of "is")
I tried uninstalling and reinstalling the 8525 keyboard fix cab, but it does not help.
Two things I have noticed:
1.) The typing problem does not seem to appear until several days after I flash the ROM.
2.) It really only seems to affect the Messaging app. (When I type into PIE forms or Notes, the problem does not seem to exist)
Definitely did not have this problem in WM5, so I am hoping that the problem will be gone in Black 3.0

this is a real problem. I have experienced it with all wm6 roms I have installed. I have a strong feeling its related to the suggested word list that comes up....but this is a rediculous problem for us to have to deal with and should be fixed. I also agree that its limited to the messaging app.
Ezra

yes the problem i was originally talking about is with the messaging app only. i have no problems in word, or IE. I have the memory performance cab installed but noticed it before that as well. does anyone see a difference with the suggestive words disabled?

Put 3.0 on Hold
njmarchetti said:
...clip...I am hoping that the problem will be gone in Black 3.0
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I'll PM JJ and ask him to hold off on the release of 3.0 until he's sure we won't have this issue.
Just Kidding. .

I actually started a thread about this a while ago but titled it in reference to skipping keys because I type so fast with the thumb keyboard that the device cannot keep up and omits some of my key-presses. However, someone suggested something that I had tried with WM5 (but it didn't work then) but hadn't thought to do with WM6.
Go to Settings>Input>Word Completion(tab) and change the "Suggest after entering" setting to something such as 3 or more letters. I have mine set to 4 letters and have zero problems with skipping or slow typing unless in a third party program such a TomTom.

a little out of topic...
but after changing to black 2.5 my time zone seems to be weird....i had tried to set it to GMT+8 Singapore time....but after a while it will change to another country thats GMT+8 but when i change it back to GMT+8 Singapore time.....it will be one hour early.....

I have the slow keyboard problem too.. Its making me mad.. And the black2.5 rom seems to slow down a heck of allot after a week or so use.. Any ideas why would this be aswell?? I only have 4apps installed.. One on today screen and rest only when i use it..

a slow keyboard is one thing, but skipping letters is another. (This issue pertains to not only Black, but also Custel, LVSW, and Dutty)
The thing is, when i text message, i start typing immediately after the window pops up. But for some reason, it lags, and then when it catches up i notice that my first 3 words are so are all butchered cuz letters were dropped. I didn't experience this issue with my MDA Vario / 8125. The worst that would happen is the text would lag, but would eventually catch up to my typing. And it WOULD NOT drop any letters. With the new wm6 roms for hermes, im noticing lag and letter dropping. I've tried the suggestion of even turning off autocomplete, and setting 1 word, 2 words, 3 words, and 4 words. Still having the same issue. I opened a thread about it long ago, but it just got closed because they "supposedly" deemed it a fixe issue. Well its not!
To clarify: I'm not trying to bash any of the rom chefs' work, as i am very thankful for what they do. But it would be very nice to have this issue addressed and fixed.

Has anyone tried changing the Up/Down Control repeats....
Settings/Buttons/Up Down Control?
I put mine up to max, and seems to have fixed my problem....

@ **Milo**
Hi and thanks for the sugestion , i tried it and my slow typing issue has gone. As an experiment i switched the rate back to where it was (about one third of the way up the slider) and its still gone. It seems switching the slider up to max cleared whatever setting was causing the slow down.
Im going to leave the phone on standby for a while then try it again to see if this has any effect on it.

*MILO* said:
Has anyone tried changing the Up/Down Control repeats....
Settings/Buttons/Up Down Control?
I put mine up to max, and seems to have fixed my problem....
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And it seems to have cured mine too. Thanks mate.

Am I the only one who has touch-screen problems with the vogue on/off? Seriously..

I had one before, dropped it a few times.. I wrote it off as that being why, well I just got a replacement one sent.. haven't dropped it once, it's been here only about 2 weeks
Randomly sometimes it won't respond to almost anything.. I'll be trying to slide the screen, it either won't at all or will go halfway like I barely touched it. I'll try clicking on things, programs, start, whatever... it'll not respond at all, I end up having to press with way more pressure than I should have to, way more.
Then sometimes without even a reset it'll start working just about normally again.. but that's rarely, usually I'll soft reset or pull the battery for a second and then it'll be fine.. for days even.. then I'll run into it again..
I noticed 2-3 times it was because I had **** updating at the time (motweets) or was receiving email.. but I've since made everything manual regarding email, and motweets updates once every 15 minutes and the amount of tweets is limited so it's not a lot..
Still, I run into this problem, and I've made sure it wasn't a program updating but I can't think of what else would make this happen, am I the only one??
Is it because there's a way to clear cache on internets and other programs and I have no idea how? (I fully close them, that's not the problem, I know my Vogue I just can't figure this out an it seems nobody else has this problem).. Not to mention I have my internet cache's directed to my storage card so as to keep my phone memory as free'd up as possible
If anyone can help..

mine is unresponsive sometimes and i have to tap on the back of the phone to get to work again. i thinks its going out soon

That's what I thought about my old one, I figured I had dropped it to much.. because I did lol but now I got a new one 2 weeks old and I'm running into the SAME problems.. I'm assuming I must be doing something wrong with how I've got **** set-up

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I had one before, dropped it a few times.. I wrote it off as that being why, well I just got a replacement one sent.. haven't dropped it once, it's been here only about 2 weeks
Randomly sometimes it won't respond to almost anything.. I'll be trying to slide the screen, it either won't at all or will go halfway like I barely touched it. I'll try clicking on things, programs, start, whatever... it'll not respond at all, I end up having to press with way more pressure than I should have to, way more.
Then sometimes without even a reset it'll start working just about normally again.. but that's rarely, usually I'll soft reset or pull the battery for a second and then it'll be fine.. for days even.. then I'll run into it again..
I noticed 2-3 times it was because I had **** updating at the time (motweets) or was receiving email.. but I've since made everything manual regarding email, and motweets updates once every 15 minutes and the amount of tweets is limited so it's not a lot..
Still, I run into this problem, and I've made sure it wasn't a program updating but I can't think of what else would make this happen, am I the only one??
Is it because there's a way to clear cache on internets and other programs and I have no idea how? (I fully close them, that's not the problem, I know my Vogue I just can't figure this out an it seems nobody else has this problem).. Not to mention I have my internet cache's directed to my storage card so as to keep my phone memory as free'd up as possible
If anyone can help..
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j18yo i think that your problem might be that to many programs run when you start your vogue that happened to me before and i hated it but then i heard of a program named "Space Reclaimer" FREE and it made my vogue much more responsive because the program stops any programs that start when you turn on your vogue or any windows mobile phone

I have the same problem usually under the same conditions. Mostly happens in the morning after the device has been off. Works fine for a few seconds then stops responding correctly i.e., the D-Pad stops scrolling correctly with a lag on touch response. I use CleanRAM and it still doesn't fix the prob once it occurs. Sometimes when I run CleanRAM it will occur. I've tried putting biotouch.exe and everyting BUT the kernel processes in the exceptions list and a Level 1 clean. Hard reset yesterday and haven't had the problem yet. If it continues to work, I'll post my settings.
BTW, I'm on a stock 6.1 ROM with a few apps.

j18yo said:
I had one before, dropped it a few times.. I wrote it off as that being why, well I just got a replacement one sent.. haven't dropped it once, it's been here only about 2 weeks
Randomly sometimes it won't respond to almost anything.. I'll be trying to slide the screen, it either won't at all or will go halfway like I barely touched it. I'll try clicking on things, programs, start, whatever... it'll not respond at all, I end up having to press with way more pressure than I should have to, way more.
Then sometimes without even a reset it'll start working just about normally again.. but that's rarely, usually I'll soft reset or pull the battery for a second and then it'll be fine.. for days even.. then I'll run into it again..
I noticed 2-3 times it was because I had **** updating at the time (motweets) or was receiving email.. but I've since made everything manual regarding email, and motweets updates once every 15 minutes and the amount of tweets is limited so it's not a lot..
Still, I run into this problem, and I've made sure it wasn't a program updating but I can't think of what else would make this happen, am I the only one??
Is it because there's a way to clear cache on internets and other programs and I have no idea how? (I fully close them, that's not the problem, I know my Vogue I just can't figure this out an it seems nobody else has this problem).. Not to mention I have my internet cache's directed to my storage card so as to keep my phone memory as free'd up as possible
If anyone can help..
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What ROM are you running? I asume that wehn your new device came you loaded it the same as the old one. It has to be something with the ROM you are runnning or a problem with a program causing your issue.

My phone would do this periodically too, with Vin's latest ROMs. I turned off Manila and am running Titanium now. Interestingly - no lags when unlocking since. I'll keep Titanium on for some time to see if that makes it go away. I had an issue with both his current v2 and v4 (which I am running now).

Ive had to replace my screen twice and the whole phone once because of touch screen problems. Thank God for the insurance.

Ah yes... to what OP mentioned:
I do not beleive it is a more pressure thing. I do not think it is more pressure that is required but rather that the phone is non responsive. If you are unlocking and typing a PIN, it takes the PIN and all but it takes perhaps one digit every 5 seconds. That's my experience anyway. So it is just slower, as if something was consuming the CPU and UI is not responsive.

crazylegs91 said:
I have the same problem usually under the same conditions. Mostly happens in the morning after the device has been off. Works fine for a few seconds then stops responding correctly i.e., the D-Pad stops scrolling correctly with a lag on touch response. I use CleanRAM and it still doesn't fix the prob once it occurs. Sometimes when I run CleanRAM it will occur. I've tried putting biotouch.exe and everyting BUT the kernel processes in the exceptions list and a Level 1 clean. Hard reset yesterday and haven't had the problem yet. If it continues to work, I'll post my settings.
BTW, I'm on a stock 6.1 ROM with a few apps.
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THIS..
It has to be the problem.. I have CleanRAM run every 12 hours or 6 hours because I figured it would help.. lol but now your saying sometimes it happens WHEN you run cleanRAM.. Im assuming it does something, or erases something it shouldnt?
This is like the 1 sole thing I have run on a schedule, I've turned off my email and everything to manual, I went into my startup folder and there was about 4-5 things I didn't need which made the battery 100% better than it was in terms of how long it lasts.. and I set-up this CleanRAM schedule on my last phone I THINK I forgot but I do know as soon as I got this 1 going I did it and I'm bout to delete the program completely and see if it'll help, I have speedbooster too which does a cleanup too I'm curious if it would have the same result..
I'll let everyone know if this ended up being my problem incase anyones in the exact same boat with the same apps
PS: I was doing level 3 cleans

j18yo said:
THIS..
It has to be the problem.. I have CleanRAM run every 12 hours or 6 hours because I figured it would help.. lol but now your saying sometimes it happens WHEN you run cleanRAM.. Im assuming it does something, or erases something it shouldnt?
This is like the 1 sole thing I have run on a schedule, I've turned off my email and everything to manual, I went into my startup folder and there was about 4-5 things I didn't need which made the battery 100% better than it was in terms of how long it lasts.. and I set-up this CleanRAM schedule on my last phone I THINK I forgot but I do know as soon as I got this 1 going I did it and I'm bout to delete the program completely and see if it'll help, I have speedbooster too which does a cleanup too I'm curious if it would have the same result..
I'll let everyone know if this ended up being my problem incase anyones in the exact same boat with the same apps
PS: I was doing level 3 cleans
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Update: I don't think CR erases things as much as it kills processes that won't restart. Thru trial and error, I've adjusted my CleanRAM settings to where I haven't had the problem for a couple of days. I'm able to do a Level 3 cleans on a once a night schedule and during the day if need be. In settings, I have it to close all apps, launch startup progs, and display today screen. I have no exceptions listed for either running progs or startup progs. I have the most up to date version from the OTA update in the program.
The program links in my StartUp folder are: poutlook (original on ROM), sddaemon (original on ROM), WLMUpdate (original on ROM), Glossybars.exe (I added this), biotouch.exe (I added as I thought CR killing this was the source of the problem), pocketwit.exe (I added), and SIPChange (I added).
One thing I did do was delete the link for TouchPal from the Startup folder. I did this for other reasons (I use FingerKeyBoard). Not sure if this was part of the problem.
I can scroll with d-pad and no touch lag.
On a side note, can I delete any of poutlook, sddaemon, or WLMUpdate from the startup folder to save battery power?
I'm probably just a bit above a newb so sorry if I don't make sense.
Update: Just for kicks, I deleted the links for glossybars.exe and pocketwit.exe from my StartUp and it started locking again after running CleanRAM. I put them back in and it works again even after running CleanRAM. Maybe someone with more knowledge can explain this. I'm just keeping it the way it is now...

Hmm weird that you removed something not very important like pocketwit an cleanram caused problems again.. someone has to have some info on this??
I deleted everything from my StartUp folder but my SPB Mobile Shell.. I didn't have sddaemon, but I did have poutlook and WLMUpdate both of which I deleted.. then I had some other programs that aren't necessary for the phone.. I have no problems on restart or anything, and the % showed being used is stays around the 30's now instead of 40s/50s.. and when I run programs it usually reachs 50% tops now instead of 60/70% I used to get.
PS: Pocketwit isnt bad I used to praise the program but now I've tried MoTweets and.. I can't think of the other one now.. ****.. it's really good though but it seems to use a lot more phone power than MoTweets so I went back to that.
Pocketwit kept giving me problems, started saying I need to install that NET 3.5 or whatever but when I try to it says I have a later version already so it won't install, then other times it'll work completely fine.. but MoTweets I like better anyways

Ok, I give up. I restored everything to the way I had it when it was working and now I'm having problems again. After the screen turns off and I turn it back on, it locks up and won't scroll and has the touch lag issue.
Hope someone figures this out. Shouldn't have messed with success. Good luck.

crazylegs91 said:
Ok, I give up. I restored everything to the way I had it when it was working and now I'm having problems again. After the screen turns off and I turn it back on, it locks up and won't scroll and has the touch lag issue.
Hope someone figures this out. Shouldn't have messed with success. Good luck.
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Are you running TouchFLO?
As mentioned before -for me, turning off TouchFLO (and running Titanium) fixed this 100%...

bigboy292000 said:
Are you running TouchFLO?
As mentioned before -for me, turning off TouchFLO (and running Titanium) fixed this 100%...
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I'm running a stock Sprint 6.1 ROM. Thanks though.

bigboy292000 said:
Are you running TouchFLO?
As mentioned before -for me, turning off TouchFLO (and running Titanium) fixed this 100%...
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I'm not using the TouchFLO interface, does that mean its still on though?
I'm not completely up on understanding all this

This was happening with Vin's Rom for me as well. I was tripping out pressing ON so many times with no screen showing up but phone light on! I believe it could be the power settings. I disabled the "Turn off device" which I believe was mentioned in his notes about the rom.

I gave up on this problem for a while but found something when researching how to disable to cube. I used the registry edit in this thread to disable to cube post #69. I didn't do any of the other steps because I'm not having memory probs (42% with pocketwit in the bckgrd).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368269&page=7
I noticed that biotouch.exe never shows up in the running processes menu in CleanRAM and I don't have the "lock/freeze" scrolling problem any longer and I can run CleanRam without the problem occurring. I can press any item on the screen as well with no delayed response.
However, this stops you from being able to finger scroll and do the "side to side" scroll in Messaging. I never really finger scrolled and prefer using the d-pad for scrolling so losing that functionality isn't a big deal to me.
If anyone can figure out how to keep this working so smooth and have the option to finger scroll, I'd be much obliged. It just seems that biotouch.exe craps out sometimes and locks up the d-pad. If they could both work equally well....

Texting is an ordeal any help?

On the newest modaco .. i find the htc_ime is really laggy when texting it makes it so difficult to text sometimes ! Does anyone know any fixes for this ? Even when ive used taskiller to kill all the other tasks it is still so slow. Please don't advise better keyboard i didn't find it helpful.

wipe & reflash

I tried that .. nothing .. epic fail... do you get decent texting speed?

i had this prob with many of the 2.1 roms, a pause between typing would be seen as a long press. making texting a real ordeal
i went back to modaco 3.1
all is good now

Yes, many 2.1 ROMs have this lag, but none of the MoDaCo ROMs .. they work perfectly!

I know it sounds stupid, but are you sure you'r using MoDaCo 3.1? I have never had any lag on the ROM at all. Even the keypad/keyboard. Where as that was laggy on stock 1.5 Sense and all of the 2.1 roms. But since i flashed MoDaCo all is good.

I am possitive i am using 3.1 ... i have always had this problem its been so laggy texting like ... if i write three words it will only be half way through the first word when im finished and il be waiting and generally when you rush it gets confused and starts changing your words to weird longer ones.
thanks for the thoughts thought but keep them coming! Come on

Im using modaco 3.1 and the only time mine ever gets laggy which is very rare is when my wifi is on. Otherwise texting runs like a dream or hero excuse the pun. I have read by turning the "vibrate when typing" off in the settings helps supposedly to speed it up a little. Otherwise i recommend like others before me, to do a full wipe and reflash also backup any important files you need to keep i.e nandroid etc that u have on the sd card and format it. Also wipe ext 2 or ext 3 if you are using it. As I had to after installing 3.1 as i found it a bit laggy in areas. Good luck.

completely removed ext partition remade it installed rom and still same lag... havent even put old stuff back on simcard..

Try this, install and use Advanced Task Killer there's a free version in android Market. Maybe you have an app that is hogging all your cpu just kill that app and try your texting. Although you shouldn't have since u wiped. Unless u installed any apps after that. If no joy hopefully one of the experienced devs could help you. Hope you get it sorted.

Tried taskiller aswell as that one damn..

You're not alone! I too suffer from obscene lag when texting at times (running MCR 3.1). I can type 6 or 7 words before the first is displayed and then watch them slowly appear. I also suffer from typing a word and it'll either be in all caps or the first few letters will be caps and the rest lower case. Oh and it can take forever and a day to actually open a message or flick between them with the widget.
I have two solutions when this happens to me, first off is reboot the phone, that quite often solves the issue, at least for a while. The second solution is to delete some messages. It seems the more messages you have, the slower the messaging app reacts. I deleted just over 1400 messages this morning and seem to have gone back up to full speed.
One other thing to note, if you are receiving / have just received or are sending / just sent a message, the app will be quite slow, or at least it is for me.
Florida.

tried deleting all the messages etc i think its the HTC_IME itself and not the messages... anyone know anything about that?

i encountered typing to be a little laggy, found that the phone is low on resources. something is running at background causing the usage to be 99% but i can't find any apps doing that (btw, im using smart monitor). typing also lag in ak notepad
when i go online, everything seems back normal. it seems that the phone is running some update or trying to... after going online, the lag is gone
the lag will happen again after every phone reboot

Any developers know anything ?

Anyone else having lag problems on the their Desire

Hey all,
I got my desire this morning, and i don't know if its just me, but everything takes a long time to load up e.g. time, weather, calendar, text messages, email apps.
Is anyone else having this problem, or should i return the phone.
Thanks for your help

i had a problem with the market on the first day. the market was very slow. after 1 day it is working as normal. maybe the phone need some time before everything is working fine
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i had a problem with the market on the first day. the market was very slow. after 1 day it is working as normal. maybe the phone need some time before everything is working fine
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i wouldnt say so, it was and it is working fine for me, maybe perford a hard reset if that doesnt help get it replaced?

aypuk said:
Hey all,
I got my desire this morning, and i don't know if its just me, but everything takes a long time to load up e.g. time, weather, calendar, text messages, email apps.
Is anyone else having this problem, or should i return the phone.
Thanks for your help
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I think it depends on your perception of lag. I feel my device slows down momentarily sometimes when navigating through long lists and opening some applications as you mention. I thought at first it might be a problem with my device but have since had it replaced (because of dust under the screen not this) but I still notice it the same. I think I just expect everything to be instantaneous given the 1Ghz processor inside but to be honest it doesn't bother me and I imagine most people don't notice any slow down at all.
As an example, just now selecting the option to add the HTC Clock widget to the home screen there is a noticeable pause before it comes up with the options to choose widget style.
I would be interested in how quickly the Photos application loads for people though, it takes a good few seconds for me (around 4 seconds sometimes) to load the summary view with 'camera shots', 'all photos' links etc. I've replaced the memory card to an 8gb Sandisk Ultra as I thought the read speed of the original could be the cause, but it still takes the same time.
None of these things effect the usability of the device in practical terms though.

Market / Weather are possibly lagging due to Network speed rather than phone speed. They have to DL data to the phone.
Others like Email may be refreshing when opened causing lag.
My messages app (Handcent currently) only lags when I have many hundreds of messages saved. But it is noticably better than chomp at handling the same volume of messages.

I find the phone lags when it is installing stuff. And by lag I mean delayed responses to my input.
I also find that certain apps can load up and then cause the phone to stutter. I haven't found out exactly which apps but it's always solved with a soft reset - just turning the phone off and on. Either that or it's forcing the phone to store too much on the SD card.
Maybe I'll find the offending app when I have more time.

[Q] Odd Messages behaviour after Froyo

Has anyone noticed the stock Messages app has some glitches in it now. Specifically, I've found 2:
1. If I'm typing a text, about 50% of the time, the screen will suddenly jump to the very top of the conversation list. This also removes the window you are typing in and stops you typing. So if you have around 200 messages in that particular conversation, it can be quite irritating to have to start flicking back down to continue.
2. This one is less frequent but I'm now sure it exists. When I tap on a particular conversation from the main list, occasionally I get taken to a completely different name/conversation. I used to go back to the main list to see if I mis-tapped, but the conversation it went to wasn't even close.
I've now gone to Handcent because of the irritation, but I'm wondering if it was only me that saw this?

i have the first problem too... very frustrating but i like the stock sms application because its so simple... tried chomp sms and handset 2 months ago and went back to stock app because i couldnt search in greek to add a contact (i dont know if it has been fixed)...
non rooted desire with froyo

yep, got these problems too, however I'm not on stock froyo, NeoPhyTe 5.0. I have also noticed another problem, whenevery I'm scrolling through the widget, sometimes all messages seem to be from one contact, even though they're not! weird, but then I let it reload and all seems fine