Just have a quick question. Recently bought a phone on craigslist and even though the guy did a factory reset before giving it to me, it still has some of his files and apparently TB backups on the internal. So, wanting to have a way of tracking this guy down if things go bad, say, I get blacklisted, I'd like to be able to do so. I think I know the answer but want to make sure, a nandroid will save all the information on the internal including TB backups, data files, EVERYTHING, right? As if you were restoring it to the exact state it was in when you made the nandroid, right? If I were to use Rom Manager to make a complete backup, is it going to backup the SD card too? I want to say the last time I made a backup on my old phone, it was HUGE compared to the previous backup. Meaning, almost 3 gigs I think as opposed to maybe an 800 mb one before. Or could that be because the old backup was ICS and JB is just that much bigger.
I think I'm confident in believing that just making a nandroid would be all I need since the SD card is mine and contains none of his information. I want to make sure just in case and thought this would be the best way to figure it out. I would have no idea how to search for a question like this lol. Thanks in advance folks.
Backup your files and then tell us.
I highly doubt that it would work. My reason being is that if I backed up my files on my exterbal sd card and say get another note 2 and restored the same bacjup on there it would just install it correctly. See where im going?
If it were to change the imei number from the other phone then there would be two phones running the same imei number... which is paradoxical. Not possible.
Theres always variable change though. It might work it might not.
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tony yayo said:
Just have a quick question. Recently bought a phone on craigslist and even though the guy did a factory reset before giving it to me, it still has some of his files and apparently TB backups on the internal. So, wanting to have a way of tracking this guy down if things go bad, say, I get blacklisted, I'd like to be able to do so. I think I know the answer but want to make sure, a nandroid will save all the information on the internal including TB backups, data files, EVERYTHING, right? As if you were restoring it to the exact state it was in when you made the nandroid, right? If I were to use Rom Manager to make a complete backup, is it going to backup the SD card too? I want to say the last time I made a backup on my old phone, it was HUGE compared to the previous backup. Meaning, almost 3 gigs I think as opposed to maybe an 800 mb one before. Or could that be because the old backup was ICS and JB is just that much bigger.
I think I'm confident in believing that just making a nandroid would be all I need since the SD card is mine and contains none of his information. I want to make sure just in case and thought this would be the best way to figure it out. I would have no idea how to search for a question like this lol. Thanks in advance folks.
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A nandroid backup is a exact image of your OS, kernel, and boot image, that doesn't make a backup of your titanium backups because your titanium backups are stored in your internal SD. The best thing to do is make a copy of your internal SD in your computer or just copy your titanium backup folder to your computer.
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Suffice to say i'm a bit unclear about this... my scenario
currently running leedroid 2.3d with ext3 app partion and I wanted to test out some of the gingerbread ports so far.
If I do a nandroid wipe, and the clear the app partion, and wipe through clockwork, install the new gingerbread rom, decide I dont like it. Can I still restore from the nandroid backup and have lost nothing... I realize it may sound like an obvious question but I couldnt find any conformation on that and really dont want to loose my current setup
Yes, assuming you nandroid before you do the full wipe
To be clear -
Nandroid backups take a complete image of the phone (ROM, apps, homescreen settings...) which is used to put everything right back where it was before you started messing with it.
Take a backup before you do anything, personally I have about 5 or 6 now (usually 2 or 3 on the phone itself, and a couple of trusted older ones copied onto my laptop) so I can get back to a working system. I keep a spreadsheet list of exactly what they are (ROM, setup, kernel if appropriate) so I know which one to restore to. Maybe it's just me but I find "2011-02-02-15.43.53" less than helpful as a restore point name.
Once you have a backup I'd also suggest rebooting, connecting to your computer and backing up the contents of your SD card. So far I've had one card die completely on me, luckily for me there was nothing irreplaceable on it. Backups, like all other files, can be copied from one SD card to another.
Thanks to both of you that was exactly the clarification I was looking for
so the dhd fell out my pocket onto concrete and the screen is f**ked, completly smashed. (surprisingly the screen itself is still ok.) luckily i have insurance
I know this is a noob question, but I want to know for sure.. if i make a nandroid backup, this backups everything right? ie every setting, and every app and every icon on the home screen etc etc?
And i assume the best way to check it works is to try and restore it?
Thanks..
it should backup everything except the SD card content.
But if you've got apps installed on your SD card and you leave it in the state it is now, you can put the phone into recovery mode and it'll be exactly the same as before.
Correct me if i'm wrong please.
But what if you get a new phone, instead of this old one repaired? Can you still restore your nandroid backup? Because it's on another phone.
Why shouldn't it work. Its exactly the same thing, just root it and run the recovery.
I just read an interesting article about this and about saving settings and apps to the cloud on Gizmodo.
http://tinyurl.com/6fsmfeo
well the nandroid backup, or at least the one i've done through rom manager/cwm backs up to the sd card, so if i did get a new phone i'd just be able to put in sd card, root phone/install cwm again and then restore?
Titanium Back-Up is good for backing up and re-linking applications if you want to do just add application to a new rom image. I would suggest your current situation might be a good time for a fresh install.
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it should backup everything except the SD card content.
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nandroid won't backup your radio either, so you'd have to re-flash your radio...
Just to preface, I have been flashing ROMs for 2 years now, and am by no means new to the game. However, I'll be the first to say that I'm not immune to making stupid mistakes. So if I'm being stupid, you can tell me and not hurt my feelings
I will give a history of what I have done with my phone since Monday after I picked it up, and some quirks I have noticed.
- Set up my phone, accounts etc
- Let Google backup/restore download and install all of my apps
- Installed OTA to ALJC
- Installed Note2 Toolkit on my PC, drivers load, adb recognizes.
- Rooted & Installed CWM recovery
- Flashed stock de-odexed ALJC
- Installed 5x6 launcher & ALJC 4x1 reboot options (rebooted and proceed to setup my homescreens, icons, etc.) (I noticed when trying to flash items from "internal" sd card, it says there are not any
- inserted my SD Card from my OG Epic (Titanium backups in place)
- Restored text messages from .xml file via TB
- None of the games I wanted to transfer data from would run after restoring data from my TB backups, had to clear data and apps run fine, except for NBA Jam (guessing b/c they were from a CM10 ROM and a different device)
-Got all my apps setup, wiped all the bogus data I got from my prior TB backups. After playing with the phone, running apps for several hours, did a full Titanium backup of my phone
- Booted to CWM & Saved a nandroid backup to external SD Card
- Flashed (dirty) ULE 1.0 ALJC Rom (I thought by flashing dirty, it would preserve all my data, apps, etc. = I was wrong)
- Attempted to restore all of my Titanium backups (only ~60% would restore...still trying to figure this out).
- Attempted to restore the backed up 5x6 launcher (with my screens/icons setup intact) via TB. This kind of worked, it definitely changed the icon setup, but it was NOT 5x6, and it did not have my previous layout (probably b/c it was trying to fit a 5x6 on a 4x4).
- Figured that the dirty flash screwed things up, so I would restore my nandroid and go back to square one, where I had stock deodexed with 5x6 & reboot options, and launcher screens intact. So I booted CWM and restored that nandroid.
- After restoring and rebooting, I'm not sure if anything happened at all. I had a 4x4 launcher, no reboot options, and several of my apps were missing (particularly, the ones that would not restore from TB before)
- Figured I aught to factory reset and then restore, same result as above.
- Currently downloading stock ALJ1 tar so I can start all over again
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I know this is long-winded, but I wanted to put it all out there in case I am doing something categorically wrong with my Note II, so I do not replicate this problem. It has always been the case that a nandroid backup gets me back EXACTLY where I was when I made it (on both my Touchpad & Epic). For whatever reason, this did not happen in this case, even after a factory reset/wipe.
Perhaps CWM isn't working properly? Perhaps I need to try TWRP so that I can manually wipe /system (as far as I can tell you can't manually do that in CWM, but if I understand correctly, this is done when you flash a ROM or restore a nandroid).
Am I doing something wrong? Also, why won't CWM see any of the files I downloaded to the internal memory? Several times now I have booted CWM and when I try to flashing things I downloaded, I have to reboot and move them to my external SD card so that CWM can see them.
Are there settings that are being saved to my external SD card that are causing problems (I highly doubt it)?
Thanks to any and all suggestions/guidance/advice.
Looking forward to learning more and more about these awesome devices.
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Just to preface, I have been flashing ROMs for 2 years now, and am by no means new to the game. However, I'll be the first to say that I'm not immune to making stupid mistakes. So if I'm being stupid, you can tell me and not hurt my feelings
I will give a history of what I have done with my phone since Monday after I picked it up, and some quirks I have noticed.
I know this is long-winded, but I wanted to put it all out there in case I am doing something categorically wrong with my Note II, so I do not replicate this problem. It has always been the case that a nandroid backup gets me back EXACTLY where I was when I made it (on both my Touchpad & Epic). For whatever reason, this did not happen in this case, even after a factory reset/wipe.
Perhaps CWM isn't working properly? Perhaps I need to try TWRP so that I can manually wipe /system (as far as I can tell you can't manually do that in CWM, but if I understand correctly, this is done when you flash a ROM or restore a nandroid).
Am I doing something wrong? Also, why won't CWM see any of the files I downloaded to the internal memory? Several times now I have booted CWM and when I try to flashing things I downloaded, I have to reboot and move them to my external SD card so that CWM can see them.
Are there settings that are being saved to my external SD card that are causing problems (I highly doubt it)?
Thanks to any and all suggestions/guidance/advice.
Looking forward to learning more and more about these awesome devices.
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Well I personally use twrp and have had no issues so I cannot speak on your nandroid issues...I do know however that in twrp after selecting internal or external sd card, you sometimes have to manually navigate to the respective sdcard...as for your TB not seeing your back ups from your prior device, go to preferences< backup location< detect and select scan whole device
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Just to clarify your remarks to avoid confusion. I can clearly see my TB backups.
I did have to go and do those steps first. About only half of them would restore though. Kind of odd. Maybe some data corruption? Didn't matter if I did them one at a time or during batch mode. Also didn't matter which of the 3 processing modes I selected in TB. Once one of the offending backups was being processed in batch mode, the restore process would hang until I force stopped TB or rebooted.
How much free storage does your internal sd have remaining? I ask because my wife's s3 would do the same when it was below 1gig
Multiple GB, probably 7 or 8. I store everything on my external, music, pics, etc. Haven't had that much chance to fill up the internal yet =]
I don't know. ..Very irritating isn't
It is indeed. But that's the risk of being a flashaholic
...and of being a first-mover on a brand new device =]
Beginning to wonder if me rooting with SuperSu, and then flashing (dirty) ULE which uses superuser, may have caused any problems. Perhaps binaries were conflicting?
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Just to clarify your remarks to avoid confusion. I can clearly see my TB backups.
I did have to go and do those steps first. About only half of them would restore though. Kind of odd. Maybe some data corruption? Didn't matter if I did them one at a time or during batch mode. Also didn't matter which of the 3 processing modes I selected in TB. Once one of the offending backups was being processed in batch mode, the restore process would hang until I force stopped TB or rebooted.
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Oh okay I see what you mean now...I have no idea whats going on there lol. ..I hope you can somehow get that figured out because I know how much it sucks to lose app Data
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I am really puzzled now, I just odined back to stock and then up through all rooting/etc to get to ULE again. Totally wiped everything. TB is still giving me fits. I'm assuming they backups were bad. Half work, half don't.
I was able to restore apps from a nandroid I made on my OG Epic a month ago. So that's helpful. I'm going to delete all my TB backups once I get everything situated and start fresh (possibly b/c I made backups while on an odexed ROM and restored them on a deodexed ROM?).
I think I'm going to stick with TWRP for now. I don't know if CWM was working properly at all, and TWRP has a few more features. TB wasn't able to see a single app to restore from the two CWM nandroids I made. Not sure what's up with that.
I was going to mention the codex stuff but it really shouldn't matter as you are backing up the data portion not the system. Still you might have a look at setting/storage. USB debug on ...all that jazz
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Just wondering if you guys enable compression to save space when making nandroids on twrp. I have never done it and want to try but wanted to see how many people do it.
Thanks
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Just wondering if you guys enable compression to save space when making nandroids on twrp. I have never done it and want to try but wanted to see how many people do it.
Thanks
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I do it every time. Why wouldn't you want your backups compressed? It lowers their size so you save some room on internal or external
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I do it every time. Why wouldn't you want your backups compressed? It lowers their size so you save some room on internal or external
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Is there any downside to this? Have you successfully restored a backup after compressing it in this fashion?
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Is there any downside to this? Have you successfully restored a backup after compressing it in this fashion?
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nope none that i see and yes i have restored the compressed backups before. Only problem is after you restore a compressed backup it gets uncompressed and goes back to the size it would be if you didnt compress it. But all you would have to do is delete it that backup and make a new compressed backup
well sure. it takes longer on both ends (compression and decompression) but its seriously minor. I always used it and restoring has never proven a problem yet.
Good deal, thanks for the feedback. I'm backing up right now and chose to compress it. I'll be interested to see how big it is compared to an older backup and how much space it actually saves.
I compress mine, longest its taken so far was 420seconds to do the whole setup with about 300apps installed. A basic backup of a rom takes me 190seconds. One thing I haven't noticed is my backups themself being decompressed after restore, but I don't pay much attention cuz I usually delete and make a fresh one just so its more current.
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Any reason why this is not the default?
stu5797 said:
Any reason why this is not the default?
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Mine is enabled by default always has been on every device I've ever used twrp on
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I use twrp on my gs3 and my note2. Neither have compressed as a default setting
Its enabled on my et4g, gs3, kindle fire and og evo4g I've never had to enable it, however the gs3 already had twrp on it so my dad may have enabled it on it and being as its always default on the others I didn't pay much attention. Twrp on the gs3 is a different build than my other devices they are all on twrp2.x and the gs3 is twrp3.1.0 so they may have disabled it by default on the newer builds
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What do you have checked when backing up?
Hi..
Nice info..
What information do you have have Xd out when doing the nand?
I have Boot, Data, Modem, EFS, System .. What else should we have checked?
I use TWRP 2.3.3.2. on the Note 2 running CleanROM 4.0.5 and Jedi XP9
navyvet420 said:
Hi..
Nice info..
What information do you have have Xd out when doing the nand?
I have Boot, Data, Modem, EFS, System .. What else should we have checked?
I use TWRP 2.3.3.2. on the Note 2 running CleanROM 4.0.5 and Jedi XP9
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I would certainly not zip a nandroid backup (at least not the one you carry on your device in case of need). Besides taking more time and work for the process, there are two major drawbacks. Imagine the necessary storage space to be not sufficient for the decompression, you would have first to estimate the needed space to free, then search and decide which files to get rid of, while counting the sum it frees and then perform the unzip. Now the worst and most probable situation.. If you need a restore it's likely that you get a system failure. So what if wou're not able to decompress first?
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I would certainly not zip a nandroid backup (at least not the one you carry on your device in case of need). Besides taking more time and work for the process, there are two major drawbacks. Imagine the necessary storage space to be not sufficient for the decompression, you would have first to estimate the needed space to free, then search and decide which files to get rid of, while counting the sum it frees and then perform the unzip. Now the worst and most probable situation.. If you need a restore it's likely that you get a system failure. So what if wou're not able to decompress first?
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Seriously dude? I think this topic has been asked answered and solved 4 to 5 years ago. So why bump a thread that has been dead for nearly half a decade?
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Seriously dude? I think this topic has been asked answered and solved 4 to 5 years ago. So why bump a thread that has been dead for nearly half a decade?
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Oh my, your post makes me feel rather ashamed, sorry to have annoyed you
Since I didn't see it anywhere and you're nice to join on a dead thread please can you lead me where this have been "solved"?
Thanks much
Aerocap said:
Oh my, your post makes me feel rather ashamed, sorry to have annoyed you
Since I didn't see it anywhere and you're nice to join on a dead thread please can you lead me where this have been "solved"?
Thanks much
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Twrp has the option built in to enable compression. You don't zip it yourself. The answer is, it's simply a preference. It's also advised to save twrp backups off device, in external sd or flash drive, even on a PC. Device storage never enters the equation. You can restore backups directly from said storage devices.
So again, simply a preference. You didn't "annoy me. That's a fairly arrogant assumption. I just thought it odd to attempt to answer a question that no one has queried in years.
@madbat99 Of course there is also to save a backup somewhere else, I mentionned especially the one we carry for emergency after reading a previous post
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Only problem is after you restore a compressed backup it gets uncompressed and goes back to the size it would be if you didnt compress it.
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@madbat99 Of course there is also to save a backup somewhere else, I mentionned especially the one we carry for emergency after reading a previous post
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Emergency backups should be on external sd. What if /data is corrupted? Backup is lost. Who would ever run device storage so close to full that a decompressed backup wouldn't fit, if it fit while compressed? Your device would run horribly.
So many issues would be solved if people would just maintain healthy device habits. Don't run right at storage limits, keep backups on external sd.
I never compress my backups by the way. No need. But it's not because I don't have room for it to decompress. It's just an extra step that I have no use for.
Ok I know this can apply to any cellphone model with Android but since I am going to try this on a SGH-T989 I decided to post it here. I am going to buy a new T-mobile Hercules cellphone, I already own one but since the USB port is jammed and nobody was able to fix it. I love my phone I don't want to buy a new model and since I am so familiar with this I won't buy a newer phone, besides, I do not need more processing power or RAM, I think the S2 has enough, I'm not that type of person that wants to have the "newest" things.
Anyway, I want to save everything I have on my current phone. I performed a complete backup with Clockworkmod Recovery. The question I have is, am I able to recover using that backup on my new phone, recovering everything from the ROM I currently have with it and apps, or will I have issues and am in danger of bricking my own phone?
I think it's easier to recover that way than to use Titanium Backup. I just want to know if I can recover everything the way I mentioned without any harm.
Nandroid restore on a different phone? No.....bad idea. Haven't tried it.... but the system files will be very different.
You can probably backup user apps and data with titanium backup and copy the backup folder to a PC. Then transfer to new phone and restore.
But no, not a nan droid. No way.
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Nandroid restore on a different phone? No.....bad idea. Haven't tried it.... but the system files will be very different.
You can probably backup user apps and data with titanium backup and copy the backup folder to a PC. Then transfer to new phone and restore.
But no, not a nan droid. No way.
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super backup works great also-and its fast