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so the dhd fell out my pocket onto concrete and the screen is f**ked, completly smashed. (surprisingly the screen itself is still ok.) luckily i have insurance
I know this is a noob question, but I want to know for sure.. if i make a nandroid backup, this backups everything right? ie every setting, and every app and every icon on the home screen etc etc?
And i assume the best way to check it works is to try and restore it?
Thanks..
it should backup everything except the SD card content.
But if you've got apps installed on your SD card and you leave it in the state it is now, you can put the phone into recovery mode and it'll be exactly the same as before.
Correct me if i'm wrong please.
But what if you get a new phone, instead of this old one repaired? Can you still restore your nandroid backup? Because it's on another phone.
Why shouldn't it work. Its exactly the same thing, just root it and run the recovery.
I just read an interesting article about this and about saving settings and apps to the cloud on Gizmodo.
http://tinyurl.com/6fsmfeo
well the nandroid backup, or at least the one i've done through rom manager/cwm backs up to the sd card, so if i did get a new phone i'd just be able to put in sd card, root phone/install cwm again and then restore?
Titanium Back-Up is good for backing up and re-linking applications if you want to do just add application to a new rom image. I would suggest your current situation might be a good time for a fresh install.
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it should backup everything except the SD card content.
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nandroid won't backup your radio either, so you'd have to re-flash your radio...
I have been having all sorts of problems with my phone, mainly from it running super low on storage space, even though I have moved virtually everything to the SD card that I can, and keep wiping the address book (which of course screws everything up). Some kind folks had helped me out a lot, but in the end suggested I just wipe it all and start over, but I was waiting to get a new SD card, which I finally have, and I just wanted to make sure I understand everything correctly before leaping in.
So I understand I need to format the SD card, and I was hoping someone could give me or point me to a guide to doing so. I understand I need to get A2SD, is that right? And so once I format it, I can just put everything on my old card onto the new one, yeah? And I understand I need to install Amon RA and get rid of Clockwork Mod, I get that. So then after I do all that, I should just flash a new ROM and not restore anything, and if things seem better, then I can batch restore apps, is that right? I think I just want to stick with the stock ROM, but is there a rooted version of the latest update available?
If someone would be so kind as to walk me through this one last time, keeping in mind I am pretty much a noob, that would be much appreciated.
Oh, I also would love to do the Firerat custom MTD partitions thing (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855424), tried to do it once before but screwed some things up, had to revert back to a previous backup, so figured now would be a good time to try that again, so if anyone can give me the rundown on that too, that would be super.
Thanks so much!
im gonna try and help you here, first back up everything you have on your sd card to your computer so you dont loose it when partitioning, then download a PCIMG36.zip of amon ra, put it on sd card and boot into bootloader and select yes when prompted, that will put amon ra as your recovery. now that you have amon ra and already backed up the stuff in your sd card to your computer go ahead and in recovery selcect partition sd card, its gonna ask you for a swap size( i use 0 but you can use 32 if you like, 0 works fine), then its going to ask for partition size for me 1024 is more than enough(1024 equals 1gb), once this is done, select upgrade ext2 to ext3. now your sd card is partitioned. you can go ahead and put all your stuff back into your sd card and flash the rom(for a2sd to work your rom has to have it built in, other wise you are going to have to flash it) if your rom has it built in it will automatically kick in. once your rom is flashed you can go ahead and restore apps, i would do them one by one, sometimes there are issues when doing batch, and also unless the app is really important i would only restore the app not its data, but i do restore app and data for important apps. if all goes well you should have a lot more free memory on your phone, you can check if apps are going to sd ext by opening titanium back up and at the bottom you should see sd a2sd or sd ext and next to it amount of free memory, if your phone internal is still low after all this and gets lower when installing apps you can fix it by going into terminal emulator and typing
su (hit enter)
a2sd reinstall (hit enter, this will move all apps to sd ext)
any more questions ust ask
With the new 2.1/3.0 hybrids, you're better off using larger partitions. I found swap 64 or 128 and EXT of 2048 works out better, if you have an 8gig or larger SD Card
Thanks so much for the quick responses! I am going to give this a shot later tonight, but another quick question.
I think I've got down how to partition it, thanks a lot for breaking that down for me. And I did just get a 32 GB SD card, so I'll go with the 128 swap and EXT of 2048, that's no big deal.
Now for what ROM to flash - I've just used the stock before, haven't flashed any other ROMs, but if I'm going this far, figure I might as well give it a try, why not. So what ROM would you recommend that has A2SD already built in?? If you could just give me a quick run down (or point me to somewhere where there is one, I'm sure it already exists) on how to go about flashing the ROM (I think I just download it though and install it through bootloader, is that right??), that would be super appreciated.
Thanks again!!
Roms are flashed through recovery and what Rom to use wow that will get you a lot of opinions.
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man there are so many roms for so many tastes, but i would suggest Vaelpak 3.2 rc2 which is still a sense rom, but has a lot of customization options. to flash your fresh rom you need to put the rom on your sd card, then turn off phone, go into bootloader, go into recovery, select wipe, and wipe cache, dalvik cache and data, do each twice to make sure, then go back and select flash zip from sd card, scroll to the bottom and look for the rom, select it and reboot
Once again, thanks for the replies and the detailed explanation, much appreciated. Didn't get around to it last night, will do so tonight. I definitely understand there are a ton of ROMs out there, but am just looking for something pretty simple I guess, since all I've used is the stock so far. Vaelpak 3.2 rc2 sounds good, I'll give that a try. So just to make sure I understand, when I install this ROM, that's everything, right, so I don't need to worry about installing the latest Android software. Or do I still need to install the latest Gingerbread update (and if so, how do I go about doing that?) in addition to installing this ROM?
Sorry for the million questions, and thanks again!
VaelPak is a very extensive ROM. If you REALLY want to stay close to stock, but have the most updated, complete, streamlined, error free experience, go with Synergy or MikG.
I LOVE VaelPak, but there is a LOT of options, themeing, development, etc in there. It's definitely not for a beginner. Also, his newest release, which is based in GB is pretty awesome, but it's an AOSP Rom, which I'm not a fan of.
Hi all,
So this is really strange, I feel like I must just be missing something, but I finally pulled the trigger, did it all, flashed my first ROM (exciting!) and all seems to have gone smoothly, except that I cannot figure out how to access Titanium Backup?!? I thought it came with MikG (I decided to give that ROM a shot), but did not see it, so went to the Market and re-downloaded it, and it says downloaded, but I cannot click on "open" and it is nowhere to be found in the apps list, or anywhere for that matter. Help! What the heck is going on? Any thoughts?
Thanks much!
Did you have a notification saying "Titatium Backup Installed" or something like that? I've had the same problem in the Gingersense roms if I leave the market before the download AND installation is complete. Not every time but sometimes.
I was just being a little slow there, I had installed the key, but not the actual program. Oops So all good, got that working, but a couple quick more questions.
Sadly it seems that I did not have TB set to backup everything on a regular basis, looks like it was just set up to backup new apps and new versions (yikes!, I know). So I've been restoring some apps little by little, and when I restored Angry Birds I noticed I was stuck back on the first level and I was like, this isn't right, looked at the date, and last backup was like March/April. This is kind of a drag for some things, like that, and especially beyondPod, lost all my settings and a number of feeds there, but I think it's probably just something I'm going to have to live with, right? I of course made a nandroid right before I wiped and flashed, but it seems like even more of a hassle to go back to that nandroid, backup things to Titanium, then reflash MikG and restore everything again, rather than just recreating what I've lost, right? Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something, there's no other way around this.
Thanks for any assistance.
I just recently went from the stock kernel with cwm eg30 deodexed root/busy box with 3g wifi hack to the new EL13 located below. (deodexed and modem flashed)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1389874
I did a backup in titanium pro and cwm before starting.
The flashing went ok for the modem and the rom. I rebooted after wiping the cache and all and everything seemed ok.
I then started getting force closes and the launcher/phone would reboot. So thinking that there was some app data not installed right i went to do a restore in titanium and it would not complete do to the locking up/rebooting. I booted into cwm recovery to do an advanced restore and it keeps saying it cant access the folder ==> no files found and then goes back to main menu. I tried the fixed permissions and no change. The files are there I can see them on the internal sd as well as the copy i made to the external sd.
Is there something else I need to do? i cant seem to get it to restore.
I did end up clearing user data through cwm and it seemed to be successful except for the secure android piece of it. I rebooted an no force closes. I then ran titanium all apps+data +system data. 90% seems to restore except for widgets being set up on the home screen and widget locker. I can reset those up manually.
I want to make sure I am not going to have more force closing so I would prefer to restore all from the cwm nand if possible.
Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.
Something is wrong with the current recoveries for our phones in my opinion.
Maybe it's something we are doing, would be nice if a DEV could speak up but here is what I've noticed. I'm runing Calk's E4GT Rom. Is uses Rouge kernels/recovery and 99% of the time when I do a Nandroid backup when I try to restore is says something like files folders couldn't be found and drops back to menu.
Now if I mount my phones internal memory OR SDCard depending what I used, I'm finding my recoveries ON my device but for example I'm finding them in places like:
/smmc/smmc/bmmc/*
or
/sdcard/sdcard/*
* being the actual directory the backup is in.
That said if I MOVE those date coded folders to /clockworkmod/backup/* all the sudden the phone sees them.
It's making the Nandroid backups in the WRONG dir 99% of the time and I've had this happen at least a dozen or so times. Matter of fact, it just happened yesterday. My Nandroids showed up in /sdcard/sdcard/* so I moved the dated folder to the clockworkmod folder as mentioned and poof, it works. Then I made a another Nandroid backup and it made it in the right directory (/clockworkmod/backup/).
Who knows... DEV's? On a side note, I also had this happen with just the standard CWM as well as the ACS hacked one, not just the Rouge version.
Thanks. I figured this is what was happening. I did try coping a few things and nothing would help in my case. I did run another backup and it finally seen that one on the sd card.
When i do a restore do I need to wipe user data ect first?
The reason i asked, is I am on the EL13 and i am trying to trouble shoot why at certain points after installing apps or going into usb mode (usb debuging on) and then dismounting the phone, then unplugging the cable my phone freaks out, and basically ends up doing a quick reboot, (quick sprint splash screen and then back to the lock screen as the launcher loads) well tries to load. It usually fails. Then i have to power cycle the phone and all seems fine. Sometimes I get in a reboot loop though. I don't as far as I know have any kind of app moved to sd card outside of games that would have a service running that would freak out when in usb mode.
btw the apps were set up the same way that they were on my stock rooted only eg30 image and i had no issues like this whatsoever on that. I have only had these problems since going to the el13 on here. Both the deodexed and odexed and the sock odin version.
So I did a nan restore before the installing of my apps. Just a clean cwm/root el13 image and when I booted back all was fine until i install my apps again. Cleanly from market or amazon. When I try to move the game to the internal storage via the built in app management program it errors out/fails then I do it again and it moves over. Every now and then i get a device is full error message when installing apps when i clearly have tons of room left on the rom and internal sd.)
reg storage is only 200 megs used with 1.8 gig free and the internal sd has 10 gig free.
So I dont know why this would be happening when I do a restore with cwm. Maybe i didnt do something right.
I did wipe the dalvik/cache before booting though. it had no effect.
do a complete wipe, and restart all over again. the issue lies in the recoveries most of the time because one kernel uses clockwork while others use their own recoveries. restoring backups made by other recoveries can give you issues. i personally only like clockwork recoveries and the others just annoy me lol.
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do a complete wipe, and restart all over again. the issue lies in the recoveries most of the time because one kernel uses clockwork while others use their own recoveries. restoring backups made by other recoveries can give you issues. i personally only like clockwork recoveries and the others just annoy me lol.
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They were all clock work backups/restores from the same build/flash/os build/version
Would even restoring some app data via titanium be bad? I dont do all data just on some games, and apps. Never anything system related
For me this issue was NOT because I changed recoveries which all of them are based on CWM anyway but that is besides the point.
I could have Team Rouges Recover based on CWM flashed, wipe my phone, and this issue comes up.
Seems to do it with all the recoveries though on and off.
hello, just wondering if there is actually an easy way to restore a nandroid backup including ext4 and data2sd?
basically, i am at the moment testing out a whole load of roms to see which one i like best.
but after doing fresh install, and having to reinstall all my user data and all my apps again every time....it takes a while.
is there actually a good practise procedure for completely restoring from a nandroid backup so that the phone will boot up and be exactly the same as it was when the backup was taken?
i ask because when i've tried this before, i always end up with either missing apps, or corrupt apps that result in loads of errors and fc's?
i have tried wiping and then using restore in cwm.
i have also then tried re-flashing data2sd....
always end up with errors.
if not, no big deal, i'm used to re-doing everything from scratch with this phone anyways, just thought that it might make it easier to switch between roms while i;m testing things out :s
Gloris said:
hello, just wondering if there is actually an easy way to restore a nandroid backup including ext4 and data2sd?
basically, i am at the moment testing out a whole load of roms to see which one i like best.
but after doing fresh install, and having to reinstall all my user data and all my apps again every time....it takes a while.
is there actually a good practise procedure for completely restoring from a nandroid backup so that the phone will boot up and be exactly the same as it was when the backup was taken?
i ask because when i've tried this before, i always end up with either missing apps, or corrupt apps that result in loads of errors and fc's?
i have tried wiping and then using restore in cwm.
i have also then tried re-flashing data2sd....
always end up with errors.
if not, no big deal, i'm used to re-doing everything from scratch with this phone anyways, just thought that it might make it easier to switch between roms while i;m testing things out :s
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Nandroid should backup and restore sd-ext. Try reinstalling your data2sd script straight after the restore.
yes, that's what i mean...it does says it's restores ext4, but when i boot the phone, my apps are not there.
if i resinstall data2sd, they are still missing :s
if you avoid wiping sd-ext(which usually doesn't happen),you wont need to restore your apps again and again......try wiping stuff separately....
Another way is using TWRP touch recovery........it doesn't wipe sd-ext at all,even if you. goose to wipe it(a bug)
yeah, but what happens for me then is that the apps are all visible under my apps list on the phone, but as soon as i go to launch any of them, it brings up an error telling me "this app is not installed on your phone", or similar.
actually given up on the whole 2nd partition thing at the moment.
have been using the latest lewaos since last week, it's amazingly fast, pretty stable compared to most rom's i've used, but as soon as i have to update (which they release weekly updates for this rom), if i have data2sd or link2sd or any of that jazz, i get the same problems as if i had installed the rom fresh (i.e. missing apps, or "appas not installed" problem.
so for now i have no 2nd partition, and i'm just installing as many apps as possible to the sd card, and use some options in titanium backup to move dalvik into rom etc etc.
will see how it works out on friday when the new update is released, i don't hold out much hope though.
new job end of the month, so once i get paid properly i'm getting an iphone4s, 16gb storage, runs fast and smooth, no more messing about, i'll finally have a phone that works as it's supposed to
really genuinely can not wait!
Just to preface, I have been flashing ROMs for 2 years now, and am by no means new to the game. However, I'll be the first to say that I'm not immune to making stupid mistakes. So if I'm being stupid, you can tell me and not hurt my feelings
I will give a history of what I have done with my phone since Monday after I picked it up, and some quirks I have noticed.
- Set up my phone, accounts etc
- Let Google backup/restore download and install all of my apps
- Installed OTA to ALJC
- Installed Note2 Toolkit on my PC, drivers load, adb recognizes.
- Rooted & Installed CWM recovery
- Flashed stock de-odexed ALJC
- Installed 5x6 launcher & ALJC 4x1 reboot options (rebooted and proceed to setup my homescreens, icons, etc.) (I noticed when trying to flash items from "internal" sd card, it says there are not any
- inserted my SD Card from my OG Epic (Titanium backups in place)
- Restored text messages from .xml file via TB
- None of the games I wanted to transfer data from would run after restoring data from my TB backups, had to clear data and apps run fine, except for NBA Jam (guessing b/c they were from a CM10 ROM and a different device)
-Got all my apps setup, wiped all the bogus data I got from my prior TB backups. After playing with the phone, running apps for several hours, did a full Titanium backup of my phone
- Booted to CWM & Saved a nandroid backup to external SD Card
- Flashed (dirty) ULE 1.0 ALJC Rom (I thought by flashing dirty, it would preserve all my data, apps, etc. = I was wrong)
- Attempted to restore all of my Titanium backups (only ~60% would restore...still trying to figure this out).
- Attempted to restore the backed up 5x6 launcher (with my screens/icons setup intact) via TB. This kind of worked, it definitely changed the icon setup, but it was NOT 5x6, and it did not have my previous layout (probably b/c it was trying to fit a 5x6 on a 4x4).
- Figured that the dirty flash screwed things up, so I would restore my nandroid and go back to square one, where I had stock deodexed with 5x6 & reboot options, and launcher screens intact. So I booted CWM and restored that nandroid.
- After restoring and rebooting, I'm not sure if anything happened at all. I had a 4x4 launcher, no reboot options, and several of my apps were missing (particularly, the ones that would not restore from TB before)
- Figured I aught to factory reset and then restore, same result as above.
- Currently downloading stock ALJ1 tar so I can start all over again
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I know this is long-winded, but I wanted to put it all out there in case I am doing something categorically wrong with my Note II, so I do not replicate this problem. It has always been the case that a nandroid backup gets me back EXACTLY where I was when I made it (on both my Touchpad & Epic). For whatever reason, this did not happen in this case, even after a factory reset/wipe.
Perhaps CWM isn't working properly? Perhaps I need to try TWRP so that I can manually wipe /system (as far as I can tell you can't manually do that in CWM, but if I understand correctly, this is done when you flash a ROM or restore a nandroid).
Am I doing something wrong? Also, why won't CWM see any of the files I downloaded to the internal memory? Several times now I have booted CWM and when I try to flashing things I downloaded, I have to reboot and move them to my external SD card so that CWM can see them.
Are there settings that are being saved to my external SD card that are causing problems (I highly doubt it)?
Thanks to any and all suggestions/guidance/advice.
Looking forward to learning more and more about these awesome devices.
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Just to preface, I have been flashing ROMs for 2 years now, and am by no means new to the game. However, I'll be the first to say that I'm not immune to making stupid mistakes. So if I'm being stupid, you can tell me and not hurt my feelings
I will give a history of what I have done with my phone since Monday after I picked it up, and some quirks I have noticed.
I know this is long-winded, but I wanted to put it all out there in case I am doing something categorically wrong with my Note II, so I do not replicate this problem. It has always been the case that a nandroid backup gets me back EXACTLY where I was when I made it (on both my Touchpad & Epic). For whatever reason, this did not happen in this case, even after a factory reset/wipe.
Perhaps CWM isn't working properly? Perhaps I need to try TWRP so that I can manually wipe /system (as far as I can tell you can't manually do that in CWM, but if I understand correctly, this is done when you flash a ROM or restore a nandroid).
Am I doing something wrong? Also, why won't CWM see any of the files I downloaded to the internal memory? Several times now I have booted CWM and when I try to flashing things I downloaded, I have to reboot and move them to my external SD card so that CWM can see them.
Are there settings that are being saved to my external SD card that are causing problems (I highly doubt it)?
Thanks to any and all suggestions/guidance/advice.
Looking forward to learning more and more about these awesome devices.
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Well I personally use twrp and have had no issues so I cannot speak on your nandroid issues...I do know however that in twrp after selecting internal or external sd card, you sometimes have to manually navigate to the respective sdcard...as for your TB not seeing your back ups from your prior device, go to preferences< backup location< detect and select scan whole device
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Just to clarify your remarks to avoid confusion. I can clearly see my TB backups.
I did have to go and do those steps first. About only half of them would restore though. Kind of odd. Maybe some data corruption? Didn't matter if I did them one at a time or during batch mode. Also didn't matter which of the 3 processing modes I selected in TB. Once one of the offending backups was being processed in batch mode, the restore process would hang until I force stopped TB or rebooted.
How much free storage does your internal sd have remaining? I ask because my wife's s3 would do the same when it was below 1gig
Multiple GB, probably 7 or 8. I store everything on my external, music, pics, etc. Haven't had that much chance to fill up the internal yet =]
I don't know. ..Very irritating isn't
It is indeed. But that's the risk of being a flashaholic
...and of being a first-mover on a brand new device =]
Beginning to wonder if me rooting with SuperSu, and then flashing (dirty) ULE which uses superuser, may have caused any problems. Perhaps binaries were conflicting?
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Just to clarify your remarks to avoid confusion. I can clearly see my TB backups.
I did have to go and do those steps first. About only half of them would restore though. Kind of odd. Maybe some data corruption? Didn't matter if I did them one at a time or during batch mode. Also didn't matter which of the 3 processing modes I selected in TB. Once one of the offending backups was being processed in batch mode, the restore process would hang until I force stopped TB or rebooted.
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Oh okay I see what you mean now...I have no idea whats going on there lol. ..I hope you can somehow get that figured out because I know how much it sucks to lose app Data
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I am really puzzled now, I just odined back to stock and then up through all rooting/etc to get to ULE again. Totally wiped everything. TB is still giving me fits. I'm assuming they backups were bad. Half work, half don't.
I was able to restore apps from a nandroid I made on my OG Epic a month ago. So that's helpful. I'm going to delete all my TB backups once I get everything situated and start fresh (possibly b/c I made backups while on an odexed ROM and restored them on a deodexed ROM?).
I think I'm going to stick with TWRP for now. I don't know if CWM was working properly at all, and TWRP has a few more features. TB wasn't able to see a single app to restore from the two CWM nandroids I made. Not sure what's up with that.
I was going to mention the codex stuff but it really shouldn't matter as you are backing up the data portion not the system. Still you might have a look at setting/storage. USB debug on ...all that jazz
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