hi everybody!
i am searching to buy a device around 300 euros and i dont know what to choose xperia s or galaxy nexus?
about xperia s,i am consider about buying the device cause i dont know if it will get updated/supported anymore after jelly bean.
also i would like to ask a few things from ppl who own the phone.
first of all,does it work well with ics?(i found a topic said that xperia s works better with gb)
then about games.Can i buy and play games out of the box without any problems,lags etc?
i would like games like gta,nova 3,nfs most wanted etc...
how is the performance generally? does it got too much bloatware?
when we get the jb update,the phone will have the xperia launcher or the jb launcher?
finally,today is it worth to buy the phone or it is too old?
what else can i buy? i consider most about the support of the phone vs the nexus which has a great support from google
Hi,
I have continuous issues with mobile data and WiFi drop out, the phone lags a lot, music shutters a lot. I would not recommend buying an XS, I'm disappointed with this phone. Though when it runs well, it really runs well and the sony features are quite nice, too, as their UI. Also they suck with the updates big time and I don't think we'll see any new Android versions after JB. The phone will be too old by then. Oh, and on GB I never had any issues besides a few random reboots that I have on ICS as well. And if u go for the XS, make sure your bootloader is unlockable, otherwise u won't be able to flash custom kernels. The screen is stunning though
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haris013 said:
hi everybody!
i am searching to buy a device around 300 euros and i dont know what to choose xperia s or galaxy nexus?
about xperia s,i am consider about buying the device cause i dont know if it will get updated/supported anymore after jelly bean.
also i would like to ask a few things from ppl who own the phone.
first of all,does it work well with ics?(i found a topic said that xperia s works better with gb)
then about games.Can i buy and play games out of the box without any problems,lags etc?
i would like games like gta,nova 3,nfs most wanted etc...
how is the performance generally? does it got too much bloatware?
when we get the jb update,the phone will have the xperia launcher or the jb launcher?
finally,today is it worth to buy the phone or it is too old?
what else can i buy? i consider most about the support of the phone vs the nexus which has a great support from google
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Buy Nexus 4.
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Buy Nexus 4.
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that's not possible because at greece nexus 4 will arrive next month from lg with a launch price 600 euros.
if u find me a trusted shop that can deliver the nexus 4 at greece, ok!
haris013 said:
that's not possible because at greece nexus 4 will arrive next month from lg with a launch price 600 euros.
if u find me a trusted shop that can deliver the nexus 4 at greece, ok!
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Okay, than gives us the alternatives available at your budget. XS is a fine phone...I expected it to be amazing, but really it's not.
I bought mine for the screen and design. If you want better specs and updates, there are other phones out there. I have rooted mine and installed cyanogenmod, and expect this to support android 4.2 and maybe beyond.
That said, I've played quite a few games without any problems at all, and they really do look great on that beautiful screen!
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Okay, than gives us the alternatives available at your budget. XS is a fine phone...I expected it to be amazing, but really it's not.
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hmm other alternatives are samsung galaxy nexus,samsung galaxy s2, htc one s and generally phones that cost about 300 euros.
my problem is that i wont buy other phone soon,so i need a device that can last 2-3 years without problems. that's why i am interested about the support of the device. i dont want to buy something and after 1,2 months will be unsupported by the manufacture.
also i want a phone where i can play games without lags etc.
Games runs well... No lags at all... But GTA VC dont work on ICS...
Performace is good ..
I love XS because i like NXT series design..
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mmm273 said:
Games runs well... No lags at all... But GTA VC dont work on ICS...
Performace is good ..
I love XS because i like NXT series design..
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on jb will work?
gta 3 works on ics?
haris013 said:
hmm other alternatives are samsung galaxy nexus,samsung galaxy s2, htc one s and generally phones that cost about 300 euros.
my problem is that i wont buy other phone soon,so i need a device that can last 2-3 years without problems. that's why i am interested about the support of the device. i dont want to buy something and after 1,2 months will be unsupported by the manufacture.
also i want a phone where i can play games without lags etc.
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It is an awesome phone, better than all others you mentioned in my opinion, but you might just go for the galaxy nexus also but keep in mind that it will be only supported until the next nexus is released. Its really a matter if choice.
I also needed a phone for2-3 years and i bought the xperia s (though it was simpler for me as galaxy nexus is not available in India
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akashgupta222 said:
It is an awesome phone, better than all others you mentioned in my opinion, but you might just go for the galaxy nexus also but keep in mind that it will be only supported until the next nexus is released. Its really a matter if choice.
I also needed a phone for2-3 years and i bought the xperia s (though it was simpler for me as galaxy nexus is not available in India
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what do u think about samsung galaxy s3 mini?
is it worth to buy?
unfortunately galaxy nexus isn't available at my country! it was sold out from all the shops and they told me they wont have any more.
also jelly bean will be the last update for the xperia s?
so is still xperia s my best choice?
So you want a phone that the manufacturer will support for atleast 2 years from now( 2013 onwards) .. Simple --Dn't buy XS ..
Sony might support it for 6 months max now coz XS was released in 2012..
I bought XS for its looks n decent performance... It wouldn't wow you on performance or updates but XS will surely attract a lot of attention for it looks ..
Its 2013 now, so check out some phones from 2013 ...
haris013 said:
what do u think about samsung galaxy s3 mini?
is it worth to buy?
unfortunately galaxy nexus isn't available at my country! it was sold out from all the shops and they told me they wont have any more.
also jelly bean will be the last update for the xperia s?
so is still xperia s my best choice?
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If you want a high resolution display and retina beating sharpness at a reasonable price, then buy the Xperia s, but it might not get updated beyond jelly bean, if you want updates, buy a 2013 model. S3 mini doesn't come close to xperia s in terms of hardware, although in terms off software it is ahead
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If you want a high resolution display and retina beating sharpness at a reasonable price, then buy the Xperia s, but it might not get updated beyond jelly bean, if you want updates, buy a 2013 model. S3 mini doesn't come close to xperia s in terms of hardware, although in terms off software it is ahead
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i suppose that xperia s when it gets jelly bean will be so smooth and awesome phone.
also with the jelly bean update will have all the sony's bloatware or will be a clean rom?
haris013 said:
i suppose that xperia s when it gets jelly bean will be so smooth and awesome phone.
also with the jelly bean update will have all the sony's bloatware or will be a clean rom?
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Think about your question, and the answer will come by itself.
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akashgupta222 said:
It is an awesome phone, better than all others you mentioned in my opinion, but you might just go for the galaxy nexus also but keep in mind that it will be only supported until the next nexus is released. Its really a matter if choice.
I also needed a phone for2-3 years and i bought the xperia s (though it was simpler for me as galaxy nexus is not available in India
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Hi Aakash, At what price did you buy the Xperia S..I am planning to but the same. Hope it is value for money?
huston8 said:
Hi Aakash, At what price did you buy the Xperia S..I am planning to but the same. Hope it is value for money?
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25.5 k, yes it is totally value for money. No phone can give you a 720p at this price point.
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Source:- Xperia blog/Twitter
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/12/03/more-info-on-jelly-bean-xperia-update-coming-in-mid-december/
hopefully it wont be to say the Xperia S update is coming end of Q1 2013!!!
Looks like the Xperia U entry level phone will be getting Jellybean before they have even announced what's happening to their high end phones...
http://www.gizbot.com/mobile/sony-m...-top-5-rivals-of-mid-range-stylish-smartphone
Way to go Sony, you have seemingly destroyed your userbase... I'm off to get a Nexus4, I can't be bothered with this. My Xperia S feels much slower than my wifes Xperia U, and the camera has never been right since ICS was released.
It's a total disaster, and there is no way Sony will ever be able to fight with the big boys.
CrazyPeter said:
Looks like the Xperia U entry level phone will be getting Jellybean before they have even announced what's happening to their high end phones...
http://www.gizbot.com/mobile/sony-m...-top-5-rivals-of-mid-range-stylish-smartphone
Way to go Sony, you have seemingly destroyed your userbase... I'm off to get a Nexus4, I can't be bothered with this. My Xperia S feels much slower than my wifes Xperia U, and the camera has never been right since ICS was released.
It's a total disaster, and there is no way Sony will ever be able to fight with the big boys.
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Its funny you say that I have a Xperia S and my wife the U! personally I find the complete opposite, my S running the latest .55 firmware is very quick and responsive, whilst her Xperia U with he latest latest firmware is very slow and the camera is shockingly bad!!
Its not looking good at all for us Xperia Ion owners.
Steve3581 said:
Its funny you say that I have a Xperia S and my wife the U! personally I find the complete opposite, my S running the latest .55 firmware is very quick and responsive, whilst her Xperia U with he latest latest firmware is very slow and the camera is shockingly bad!!
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The S is faster at some stuff (gaming etc), but the launcher feels sluggish at times. My wife's Xperia U running ICS has none of these slowdowns, I'm guessing because it's not got nowhere near as much screen to "maintain"...
It's very disappointing that Sony have pretty much ditched Xperia S flagship users, and seem to be focusing their efforts at the entry level (the XPeria U is a fine entry level phone WAY better than the HTC Desire C and Samsung Y)
My God, are we desperate. We are looking forward to announcements announcing promised updates.
I'd be happy with a working ICS for UK SIM free Xperia S
M an xperia u user and yup my ics is really bad... Camera autofocus, slow response everything is mashed up so we need jelly bean earlier...
And a most genuine reason for xu getting jb update before others is that is it based on sony' s own novathor chipset ( we already saw 3-4 months ago a video of novathor chipset jelly bean first boot)
Bt I still dun belive it myself that xu will get it before xs or other high ends xperias
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Wyzco said:
Its not looking good at all for us Xperia Ion owners.
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How so?
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I was right all along.
Xperia S received ICS update later than 2011 line-ups and will receive JB update later than 2012 2H flagships.
Congratulations Sony you ditched one and the most important part of your user base.
it´s ok as long as we get 4.2 instead of 4.1 . the question is will i get the nexus4 or jb update for my xs first? damn google...
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it´s ok as long as we get 4.2 instead of 4.1 . the question is will i get the nexus4 or jb update for my xs first? damn google...
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Trust me, you REALLY don't want 4.2 It's a total bag of crap. It's totally ruined my Nexus 7. The Bluetooth support is totally broken.
It's 4.2.1 right now, and it has no problem with Bluetooth.
I also own a Xperia S with latest 55 FW, and a Google Nexus running 4.2.1 JB. The latest is my daily.
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Trust me, you REALLY don't want 4.2 It's a total bag of crap. It's totally ruined my Nexus 7. The Bluetooth support is totally broken.
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Well 4.2.1 runs perfectly with my Nexus 4. What are you talking about....
My Nexus 7 ran the 4.2 updates without any problem, was even smoother than in 4.1. And now is on 4.2.1 and it's perfect!
Why nexus user keep reporting on Xperia s threats!!!
We happy for what we have!!
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4.2 caused reboots on my N7 but since 4.2.1 it has been perfect again
richteralan said:
Well 4.2.1 runs perfectly with my Nexus 4. What are you talking about....
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4.2.1 is overrated. The biggest issue is the way the internal memory is partitioned. I had a hell of a time getting titanium working again after upgrading on my N7. I dont see why we need another folder called 0.
mrsatan said:
4.2.1 is overrated. The biggest issue is the way the internal memory is partitioned. I had a hell of a time getting titanium working again after upgrading on my N7. I dont see why we need another folder called 0.
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Thay's an easy one, multi profiles.
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Jose Viegas said:
Thay's an easy one, multi profiles.
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Yeah I know what its for, but its a pain in the ass. Also I had major issues with usb-otg on 4.2.1. Right now I am using 4.2 not 4.2.1
What do you think guys?
They are doing same mistake again n again, no lesson learnt from Xperia X10 disaster !!
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/12/2...XperiaBlog+(Xperia+Blog)&utm_content=FaceBook
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Don't worry there will be plenty of fanboys buy Sony.
And they say slow update means polished update. LMFAO.
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I'm one of these fan boys but from now on only nexus because it will always be the best supported device, on the software part at least!
I will still love Sony and praise their efforts on creating such sexy and smart devices!
I hope one day we will see a Sony nexus, this will be awesome!
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No. I'll still buy a Sony as long as it's the best looking phone. I don't need updates right away for a device that I use for sms, email and phone calls.
But it needs to look good, I don't want to think 'ew this thing is ugly but at least it runs the latest android version' every time I pull out my phone.
If updates are so important to you, why didn't you buy a nexus in the first place?
It has nothing do with 'fanboys'.
Some people have different priorities in a phone than you.
My boyfriend is still satisfied with his sola even if won't get jb.
My little sister hasn't even updated her ray to ics because she doesn't even know what it is.
Some people just want their phone to work the way it did when they brought it. Which is why they bought it in the first way.
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The new Nexus looks ok (it is LG but what the hell) as for the previous which was Samsung..... ewww!
It probably wouldn't put me off too much.
I've had an Arc S and the Xperia S, and loved them both. I'm also capable of flashing ROMS, so as long as theres dev support, I wouldn't be bothered if Sony are waaay behind release schedules.
The new Yuga looks awesome, although I'm not due an upgrade till October next year.
Although, after buying a Nexus 7, and getting the 4.2 update about 10 hours after Google released it, I definately consider a Nexus device as my next handset.
Not really. i like sony devices somehow and i'm inclined towards buying them always. i had couple sony devices and loved them all. i like arc s but due to half gb of ram i moved to sxs. i'm not on cm10 by fxp and loving it. though it has few bugs i really do not miss official updates. one thing i like about sony is they support open source projects. i'm waiting for xperia yuga and thinking of waiting till xperia nexus. :fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
Updating android is not a big deal
For me ur still can use most app in play
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Not getting a working ICS has put me off let alone the wait for JB.
MrBelter said:
Not getting a working ICS has put me off let alone the wait for JB.
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Same here, if Sony had pushed a fixed ics, especially for UK generic then I would have happily sat back, waited for jelly bean and probably bought another Sony next summer, I don't need the latest update straight away, but I do need a phone that works. So after the way Sony treated me, not now.
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Samsung GS2 and Note are getting JB from Next month...! Aw Sony! What up with the Koreans anyway??
I don't care about the updates.
Well... Right now I'm testing a JB ROM and it's great and everything, but I prefer stock Sony ROMs. When official JB gets released I'm going to flash it over the CM10 based ROM I have now. And also I'm thinking that my next phone will be a Sony Xperia Odin xD
Maybe Sony is going to fix all its mistakes next year, or maybe they're going to make the same bad decisions about updating their phones but the hell with that, I'm happy with my XS right now!
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Don't worry there will be plenty of fanboys buy Sony.
And they say slow update means polished update. LMFAO.
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Don u rmb the the amount of bug ics had?
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Yep. I was hoping a JB update to iron out the issues but they screwed me over again with this late release. They don't even give us the new features of the new software versions... (I mean officially)
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No need for official updates, when you've got great teams like FXP and KXP
You get CM, AOKP, MIUI plus a bunch of stock- and custom-based ROMs with even better features than the official ROMs...
That's what you get if your device gets an unlockable bootloader and gets featured on the xda portal
Tha only bad thing, though, is no CM7...
someone755 said:
No need for official updates, when you've got great teams like FXP and KXP
You get CM, AOKP, MIUI plus a bunch of stock- and custom-based ROMs with even better features than the official ROMs...
That's what you get if your device gets an unlockable bootloader and gets featured on the xda portal
Tha only bad thing, though, is no CM7...
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This is not the point.
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I'll buy the next Xperia because I love Sony (Ericsson)'s design and UI (since 2007), they are better than other Android phones, but I'll change if Sony don't change (maybe a Nexus or Lumia in 2014 )!
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I don't care about the updates.
Well... Right now I'm testing a JB ROM and it's great and everything, but I prefer stock Sony ROMs. When official JB gets released I'm going to flash it over the CM10 based ROM I have now. And also I'm thinking that my next phone will be a Sony Xperia Odin xD
Maybe Sony is going to fix all its mistakes next year, or maybe they're going to make the same bad decisions about updating their phones but the hell with that, I'm happy with my XS right now!
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This is exactly how I feel. I am willing to wait because I dont want the stock google experience. I already have a Nexus 7, I dont need a nexus phone, unless it was a Nexperia. Sony android is really damn good for phones, amazing for music.
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someone755 said:
No need for official updates, when you've got great teams like FXP and KXP
You get CM, AOKP, MIUI plus a bunch of stock- and custom-based ROMs with even better features than the official ROMs...
That's what you get if your device gets an unlockable bootloader and gets featured on the xda portal
Tha only bad thing, though, is no CM7...
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CM7 are you kidding?
I bought XPS just for the look (also their skin are beautiful). For the software side I'm using CM. So, kinda problem solved for me.
But yes it is very annoying to see the lower end phone will got update sooner than you.
I would totally bought Nexus if they weren't made by Samsung or LG.
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I was big fan of Sony as you can see from my name Used Xperia X10, Arc, Play but after that I was very disappointed with Sony, used XS n then moved to Note 2.
Going by the specs and sleek design, I like the Xperia Z (Yuga).
If Sony is going to release this globally by March with atleast JB 4.1.2 I will buy !!!
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Hey,
My Good Old Wildfire S Died a Few days back.So I am Insearch of New phone now and Came across the Sony xperia Ion.I read many mixed reviews for the phone and kinda confused to buy it or not? Is the phone really worth? Now the phone is available for Rs.21500/- (390 $)
I Would be thankful if someone reply me.
deepakskht1 said:
Hey,
My Good Old Wildfire S Died a Few days back.So I am Insearch of New phone now and Came across the Sony xperia Ion.I read many mixed reviews for the phone and kinda confused to buy it or not? Is the phone really worth? Now the phone is available for Rs.21500/- (390 $)
I Would be thankful if someone reply me.
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I too bought it few weeks ago for same price as my Xperis S got stolen.
And believe me the phone is just too good for its price.
Great Design, Better performance compared to XS, and the most important thing the best display from SONY.
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I too bought it few weeks ago for same price as my Xperis S got stolen.
And believe me the phone is just too good for its price.
Great Design, Better performance compared to XS, and the most important thing the best display from SONY.
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Is the processor ok for casual gaming and telephony...i also planning to play some cool games like dead trigger,Temple Run 2! Can the phone handle this tasks? And also how is XDA support for this phone?
I had wildfire s before ion....wildfire s was stolen....so i bought ion at&t model...phone is very good builded...bettery life is good if u dont use much of the internet...screen resolution and screen size is perfect....
Just a minus feature is cam clearity and less developement...but cam will be better on JB update...the phone is getting JB in may end...JB MAY BE TJE LAST OFFICIAL UPDATE FOR ION.
But ifu need better update suport than go for x sp...it is new device with jb...and may have more update support above jb in future...
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Is the processor ok for casual gaming and telephony...i also planning to play some cool games like dead trigger,Temple Run 2! Can the phone handle this tasks? And also how is XDA support for this phone?
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U can play temple run and subway surfers flawlessly if u remove some bloatwares...some lags may be due to less free ram..about 300 mb on stock ics!!!
I am playing ironman 3 ...it is nice...gaming xperience is not as much good as quad core 1.5ghz ...obviously..but it is ok...phonecan handle hd games...
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I had wildfire s before ion....wildfire s was stolen....so i bought ion at&t model...phone is very good builded...bettery life is good if u dont use much of the internet...screen resolution and screen size is perfect....
Just a minus feature is cam clearity and less developement...but cam will be better on JB update...the phone is getting JB in may end...JB MAY BE TJE LAST OFFICIAL UPDATE FOR ION.
But ifu need better update suport than go for x sp...it is new device with jb...and may have more update support above jb in future...
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U can play temple run and subway surfers flawlessly if u remove some bloatwares...some lags may be due to less free ram..about 300 mb on stock ics!!!
I am playing ironman 3 ...it is nice...gaming xperience is not as much good as quad core 1.5ghz ...obviously..but it is ok...phonecan handle hd games...
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Yeah The specs are good for the 8th month old 21k phone....but it am hoping the device the device is supported upto Key Lime Pie...are you sure JB is the last update ?
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Yeah The specs are good for the 8th month old 21k phone....but it am hoping the device the device is supported upto Key Lime Pie...are you sure JB is the last update ?
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As far as its a snapdragon device, I believe it will have a custom rom.
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Owned my Ion since AT&T first released it last summer.
IMO, the main concern and cause for mixed initial reviews was simply it shipping with Gingerbread. That isn't an issue any more. It runs ICS perfectly fine for the most part, and is scheduled for JB pretty soon. My gf has a TL, which is the slightly updated S/Ion, and i really don't notice much difference in performance between the two, at least for very normal usage. I know development wise, with benchmarks this and that, you'll read differently...but it wasn't something tangible enough for me to notice between regularly messing with both.
Gaming wise. I regularly play Dead Trigger on high settings, Asphault 7, Doom GLES,etc, and have never had any issues. I know those games scale according to the hardware, but all look great. I've seen the videos that show what Tegra 3 support does, and most effects are subtle enough for it not to be a huge deal. Obviously, those being pretty high requirement games, nearly anything else runs very easily.
The screen. To this day i haven't seen a better screen on a cell phone, including recently messing around with a friend's Z. Contrast is perfect, viewing angles work acceptably, and the pixel density is to the point where i simply can't tell when something is better. Watching top gear in 720p on my Ion and the same episode in 1080p on a Z just after...i couldn't see the difference.
The only bad thing is all on Sony. Considering 76 phones have been released since last June; its pretty realistic that if they do decide to bump the Ion or S to KLP, it won't show up until 2015...but considering an Ion is pretty much free right now, that isn't really a big deal.
deepakskht1 said:
Hey,
My Good Old Wildfire S Died a Few days back.So I am Insearch of New phone now and Came across the Sony xperia Ion.I read many mixed reviews for the phone and kinda confused to buy it or not? Is the phone really worth? Now the phone is available for Rs.21500/- (390 $)
I Would be thankful if someone reply me.
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The ion is indeed a solid phone... But why not consider a nexus 4? Its muuuuuuuuch better. Unless it's not available in your region or something?
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Hello there,
I am a Sony Xperia S user for 11 months now and so far I have been largely satisfied with my device. I have always run on the Stock ROM, I have not unlocked my bootloader yet and I do not intend to do so.
However, in the light of recent events I find myself thinking of a switch to another phone with better characteristics and more recent hardware. The best deal seems to be Sony Xperia T - newer chip, better support from Sony; perhaps it would receive further JB updates (4.2, 4.3) as well. Still, its recent price is just above 300 euros - unlocked and without contract - in my country. In comparison, I still have to pay about 200 euros for my Xperia S to the end of my 2-year lease contract with my local mobile service provider. That's why I am considering paying off the remaining sum of the lease in advance and then selling my Xperia S for about the same amount of money.
There are several reasons why I am considering such a switch. For one, Sony does not seem too eager to support Xperia S any longer. Yes, the 4.1.2 JB update is on the way but it has been for several months now. The numerous delays, and I am not too interested in the respective reasons, have finally put me off this otherwise pretty good all-rounder phone. Second, we have to take into account that the Snapdragon S3 chip is already heavily outdated and it would most likely not receive any further software development. When considering the alternatives, Xperia T seems to be the best one, because of its price, hardware and software. I am very fond of Sony's interface, indeed.
So I wonder what is your opinion on the matter? Is Xperia T worth it to replace my Xperia S for the next couple of years?
This thread could provide a general discussion of Xperia S's future, too.
I think its time to move on. Im never going back to Sony unless they improve. Im keeping my phone for few months more. I just bought my Sony phone and Im pretty disappointed. HTC and Samsung have better phones than Sony why settle for Xperia T or V, if you can have better.
My friend got Xperia T, and i don't like that phone.
Move on something newer, keep in mind (snapdragon 600) will receive every update before S4 and S4pro
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Agree with electrash anyways sony is getting poorer and poorer when it comes to system updates
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It is made very clear by the moderators that threads condemning Sony is not allowed. This thread is going to get locked soon. However, I noticed it is always those few monkeys tryin to be funny, not able to listen to simple English. Sony might not be good in updating Xperia S, but they didn't break any promises and my current ICS build is flawless.
Sony might not reach Samsung's level yet but it has suppressed HTC greatly already. Those who don't know, HTC abandons HTC Sensation, the phone with the exact same CPU as Xperia S.
So has sony, it had forgotten about xperia u when jellybean was announced
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Rangeeshnathan said:
So has sony, it had forgotten about xperia u when jellybean was announced
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I own an Xperia U and it lags badly on ICS. They didnt abandon Xperia U. It is just not fit for JB. Anyways, Sony sales numbers have been steadily increasing YOY and already destroyed Motorola's and HTC's. Sony will continue to rise as 99% of customers dont give a damn about updates, fortunately.
Xperia go seems to have less hardware capabilities than xperia u, no??
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Rangeeshnathan said:
Xperia go seems to have less hardware capabilities than xperia u, no??
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LOL. Please don't play with me. Xperia Go have the exact same specification as Xperia U. Xperia Go have a lower screen resolution resulting better performance. Then you will ask Xperia J. Sigh, kids these days.
Excuse me then I'm sorry Mr lee
And lol I was not coming to xperia j
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R: Finding myself on a crossroad - maybe it is time to move on
Pretty much of your same opinion... I'm totally satisfied until now for what I've done with my Xperia S, but I really cannot stand anymore the politics of software update that Sony is pursuing.
And ok, my phone is fully unlocked and I tried a lot of custom roms to get closer to what is a pure android system, but to me those all are still full of bugs.
And to be honest, stock remains the best deal.
I'd like to switch to a pure Google Phone like the Nexus 4 but his great fragility, the weakness of the camera and the max 16gb of storage are three points that still makes me doubtful.
I'm considering the upcoming Galaxy S4 Nexus Edition...
When the official Sony JB update comes, everything changes. We can run custom ROMs without a flaw with the help of 3rd party developers. There has been rumors that Android 4.3 is still going to be JB. Even if we cant upgrade our phones to Android 5. The problem is our ROMs are'nt stable enough.
lewis021 said:
When the official Sony JB update comes, everything changes. We can run custom ROMs without a flaw with the help of 3rd party developers. There has been rumors that Android 4.3 is still going to be JB. Even if we cant upgrade our phones to Android 5. The problem is our ROMs are'nt stable enough.
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Personally, the current ICS build is stable. Other than some Wifi drops, I dont see any major flaws in it.
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Personally, the current ICS build is stable. Other than some Wifi drops, I dont see any major flaws in it.
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The big problem about ICS is its very laggy, drains alot of battery and not smooth.
cabi.costa said:
Pretty much of your same opinion... I'm totally satisfied until now for what I've done with my Xperia S, but I really cannot stand anymore the politics of software update that Sony is pursuing.
And ok, my phone is fully unlocked and I tried a lot of custom roms to get closer to what is a pure android system, but to me those all are still full of bugs.
And to be honest, stock remains the best deal.
I'd like to switch to a pure Google Phone like the Nexus 4 but his great fragility, the weakness of the camera and the max 16gb of storage are three points that still makes me doubtful.
I'm considering the upcoming Galaxy S4 Nexus Edition...
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Yep, the Galaxy S phones are always a viable alternative, but I am not a big fan of Samsung. Too much plastic, and the user interface is somewhat dull and boring. Yes, the horsepower behind the back panel is immense but I am not a power user, not really. In fact, it turns out that Sony are the brand with the highest number of upper-mid-level devices at the moment (Xperia S, T; SP and ZR upcoming; not to mention all the derivatives like SL, TX, Ion, V, Acro S, etc., etc.) and I am rather leaning towards buying one such device. I am not too interested in the current flagship devices (Xperia Z, HTC One, Galaxy S4) since cheaper phones provide similar daily performance for some 2/3 of the price. Snapdragon S4 is one really capable platform and its wide availability makes it accessible to anyone.
To sum up, I am rather looking for a phone with a good manufacturer's support and expected updates till Android version 4.3, at least. The 16GB non-expandable storage of Nexus 4 is a deal-breaker for me as well. Maybe I will wait another couple of months, until SP and ZR get released and their prices decline to their true market values.
And guys, please stay on topic here. We are discussing Xperia S and its alternatives here, not Sony's customer policy in general. I know, there are many of you who are angry at the Japanese, I am somewhat dissatisfied myself. Anyway, please stop the rant because I believe this is a sensible topic and I do not want to see this thread closed. Thanks!
edit: nvm
I had similar thoughts too, until i realized that the hardware in my Xperia S is just fine for my needs for now. What is it you want to do with a newer chipset? And on the software side, I have my hopes on that things will improve somewhat once/if Sony releases the new kernel-sources.
This question has been as so many times, only you can decide what is best for you.
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So i decided to make this thread so people can read abou it...
It seems it is the end of the road for Sony xperia S
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2013/11/07/on-jelly-bean-4-3-kit-kat-4-4/
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But...Xperia ion doesn't even got proper jellybean 4.1.2 ...give us,Xperia ion user a 6.2.B.1.96 update T^T
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Hey, at least we received 3 major Android upgrades. This is ALMOST comparable to Galaxy Nexus which started off at 4.0 and ended 4.3. And you can't really blame Sony, Qualcomm didn't release new drivers for Snapdragon S3 SOCs.
I think it's time to move on, even Google is not updating the Galaxy Nexus even where its within the specification.
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Hey, at least we received 3 major Android upgrades. This is ALMOST comparable to Galaxy Nexus which started off at 4.0 and ended 4.3. And you can't really blame Sony, Qualcomm didn't release new drivers for Snapdragon S3 SOCs.
I think it's time to move on, even Google is not updating the Galaxy Nexus even where its within the specification.
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Ha ha.. sounds funny when u don't know the whole story.. Galaxy Nexus won't get 4.3 because Ti OMAP did what Qualcomm did to us.. Same thing.. No drivers from them.. So that being the main reason, Google covering it with 18 months reason.. Also pretty valid.. And for SONY which probably should have been released with 4.0 was released with 2.3, which they have done with all their flagships.. Z with 4.1 when 4.2 was already out, Z1 with 4.2 when 4.3 was out for months.. They are always a generation behind.. Hence we are forced to stay on 4.1.. Its like we only got 2 generations of OS.. Qualcomm might not have given drivers.. But 1 single person brought 4.2 and 4.3 for us, can't SONY, a big international NO.3 mobile company build one?? Lame reason i say.. Cheap parlor tricks.. We just have to fall for it..
as expected,we r left at 4.1.2 same as samsung cheap phones,whats the difference ? getting a flagship
franklin93 said:
as expected,we r left at 4.1.2 same as samsung cheap phones,whats the difference ? getting a flagship
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Sony forcing us to sell our phones and never buy a sony product
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abdulkadiro said:
Sony forcing us to sell our phones and never buy a sony product
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for me my xperia s is not even a year old so i will use as it is or flash new custom roms.its not slouch yet.as kitkat requires low hardware specs,xperia s is more than enough :highfive: lets rock this phone until its death
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Sony forcing us to sell our phones and never buy a sony product
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Or <Sony forcing us to sell our phones and buy a newer sony product>
Of course I would be more than happy to hear about updating xperia s to 4.3 or 4.4, but it was never going to happen. And you know what? Thanks to developers such as @niaboc79 our xperia s is a great smartphone no matter how do you call the newest android version Maybe in a year from now I'll get xperia z1, z3 or z5, for now I'm really fully satisfied with what I have Of course there may be people who really need more power, more possibilities or more anything, and it's not a problem for me, but I think for average user our phone is still more than enough
cezarry said:
Or <Sony forcing us to sell our phones and buy a newer sony product>
Of course I would be more than happy to hear about updating xperia s to 4.3 or 4.4, but it was never going to happen. And you know what? Thanks to developers such as @niaboc79 our xperia s is a great smartphone no matter how do you call the newest android version Maybe in a year from now I'll get xperia z1, z3 or z5, for now I'm really fully satisfied with what I have Of course there may be people who really need more power, more possibilities or more anything, and it's not a problem for me, but I think for average user our phone is still more than enough
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You r absolutely correct bro :good::good:
cezarry said:
Or <Sony forcing us to sell our phones and buy a newer sony product>
Of course I would be more than happy to hear about updating xperia s to 4.3 or 4.4, but it was never going to happen. And you know what? Thanks to developers such as @niaboc79 our xperia s is a great smartphone no matter how do you call the newest android version Maybe in a year from now I'll get xperia z1, z3 or z5, for now I'm really fully satisfied with what I have Of course there may be people who really need more power, more possibilities or more anything, and it's not a problem for me, but I think for average user our phone is still more than enough
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even for heavy user and gamer,its more than enough.i checked the xperia z1 camera its not big deal breaker compared to our xperia s.just my only concern with this awesome xperia s is its mediocre batery life.cant last a day but its all because of my heavy usage.4.30 hours of screen on time
As some people have been saying we still have ROMS.
And yeah the only thing i complain more is the battery but it is still a great phone...
btw, just something that i am always curious. If sony cant get 4.2, 4.3 4.4 to work, why do other developer managed to get it work?
franklin93 said:
as expected,we r left at 4.1.2 same as samsung cheap phones,whats the difference ? getting a flagship
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This is why I'm done with Sony, man. Only flagship that was on GB at the time. WTF?
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btw, just something that i am always curious. If sony cant get 4.2, 4.3 4.4 to work, why do other developer managed to get it work?
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Well i am no expert but this is my take, as some people are stating Qualcomm isn't releasing any more drivers so Sony can't deliver an 100% stable version, developers release the most stable version possible but with customized drivers (which may not be perfect)
Well I think we all saw this coming. Been a nice ride though and I for one don't plan on getting rid of my Ion any time soon. A boot unlock sure would be nice though.
To be quite honest if the devs and community are still intact like it is currently for this device then no amount of of sony's paid devs can achieve what has and is being acheieved.
I believe the support of this great community of SXS owners and dedicated devs have made this device so much better than what Sony i still believe cannot achieve.
So a big Shout out to all the DeVS as they have done a fantastic job to a device that had posed a challenge to them thanks
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Sony 4.3/4.4 ROMs are never going to happen for our devices. We'll just have to rely on custom ROMs and ports.
I prefer the new kitkat over any Sony ROM.
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From what I have seen the only thing kit kat brings is a way to stop locked boot loader devices from being hacked. Things are going to get allot harder and we may all find our self's saving up for unlocked devices now. Kinda sucks if you ask me.