Hello there folks. I've had my Desire Z for 2 years and it always worked great, it is rooted with S-OFF, HBOOT and all, I was running Andromadus Mimicry 1.5.0 ROM. It was working flawlessly as usual, but yesterday I picked it up and it was turned off, I figured it needed a charge so I connected it to the charger, but to my surprise I didn't get the usual orange led, as a matter of fact I got nothing. I waited a few minutes but still nothing. I tried to connect it to the PC but again, nothing. So far I tried different cables, different batteries, chargers, tried the car charger, but nothing seems to work. I tried using ADB to run a Fastboot command but that also didn't work, it hangs forever on <waiting for device>, and ADB doesn't detect it. It really seems absolutely dead. It doesn't show any sign of life, no light, no vibration, NOTHING. Has anyone ever seen something similar? What can be done to resurrect it? I didn't do anything different, it was all of the sudden. I appreciate any help, thank you!
Once I saw a problem like yours and we figured it out that the problems is because of the
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chip of the device's hardware. Once we replaced the chip ( I dont know if you can do this. i suggest you to buy a new Vision mainboard ) the device started to wark as fine as it used to be
MasterKoala said:
Once I saw a problem like yours and we figured it out that the problems is because of the chip of the device's hardware. Once we replaced the chip ( I dont know if you can do this. i suggest you to buy a new Vision mainboard ) the device started to wark as fine as it used to be
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Hey, thanks for the reply! While researching what could be the problem I came across this eMMC issue, I was hoping that wouldn't be the case, but unless someone else sheds a new light on the subject I guess that's probably it. I even looked for a new eMMC chip or Vision mainboard, but couldn't find them anywhere. I guess with the price of a brand new Desire Z at U$90 - 120 nowadays it wouldn't be worth it anyway, I might as well just buy another one, as a matter of fact I probably will, as I love this model so much, but I really wanted to save the one I already have, that way I would have a spare.
You can buy a new Desire Z and keep the old one as a restore device who knows maybe some day you gonna need a touchscreen or a LCD panel or both?
Just keep it
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You can buy a new Desire Z and keep the old one as a restore device who knows maybe some day you gonna need a touchscreen or a LCD panel or both?
Just keep it
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Yeah, I thought about that too, I'll probably need it sooner or later, I had to exchange the led flash once. Who knows, maybe the eMMC could be fixed with JTAG, but that RIFFBox is so expensive. If it weren't I would certainly get one as it's useful for all kinds of phones. Hey, thanks for the reply again, I really appreciate the input. I hope the thread goes on and people keep giving new ideas.
Chances are it isn't an emmc issue, as the emmc issue just stops the emmc from being written to, so the phone will show some signs of life.
It will be some sort of hardware issue though, seeing as it's not doing anything at all.
-Nipqer
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Chances are it isn't an emmc issue, as the emmc issue just stops the emmc from being written to, so the phone will show some signs of life.
It will be some sort of hardware issue though, seeing as it's not doing anything at all.
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Thank you very much for the info Nipqer. Is there a way I can tell what kind of hardware issue happened? It really doesn't show any signs of life, no lights, no vibration, no orange led while charging, nothing. Aside from that the phone looks brand new as it has always been well taken care of. Is there something I can do or try out? Thank you.
Did you try a new battery? Or an external charger? It is possible battery is fried or USB port is dead, a new battery and external charger could help figure that out.
Also you can try taking out the battery, plug into PC via USB while holding down both volume buttons, phone should vibrate a bunch
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Did you try a new battery? Or an external charger? It is possible battery is fried or USB port is dead, a new battery and external charger could help figure that out.
Also you can try taking out the battery, plug into PC via USB while holding down both volume buttons, phone should vibrate a bunch
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Yup, I got 2 extra batteries besides the stock one that came with it, one of them is a Mugen Power Battey and the other is another original just the same as the stock, tried many different chargers, 4 other wall chargers, different cables, car charger, etc. Doesn't seem to be the problem. Tried to do as you said about taking the battery out and plugging into the PC via USB, still nothing, not even holding both volume buttons down or any other buttons... Hell, I even tried holding ALL of them. Still no deal.
Sorry to say but my guess is logicboard is shot, good news is a new dz/g2 is cheap nowadays
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Sorry to say but my guess is logicboard is shot, good news is a new dz/g2 is cheap nowadays
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Sadly seems like it. Well, I guess I'll get another Desire Z and store this one for parts and scraps. =/ I still wish someone would appear with a fix for this.
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Where can i get a htc desire z/g2 motherboard??
i dropped my phone and something inside of it something got loose, now it wont charge or turn on
Just took it to a repair guy, he opened it up and said everything seems fine....no corrosion or anything from water...but the phone wont power on....any one here have any ideas? just shoot em, im willing to take anything
Ask HTC?
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Ask HTC?
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i tried, they wont cover accidental damage. And my warrantys been voided since someone opened it up..
I bought a second hand phone and it did turn on however there were a numbers of problems with my phone, it had a power button that didnt work, unresponsive parts on the lcd and a quiet in call speaker.
Your best bet before trying to replace the whole pcb is opening your phone using a teardown guide
http://tjworld.net/blog/htc-desire-z-tear-down
Make sure you read it a couple of times and go through the pics so you know what your dealing with, find the power button, make sure its intact and adjust the ribbon cables.
Otherwise just find a cell phone repairer on a classified ad like criagslist or kijiji.
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I bought a second hand phone and it did turn on however there were a numbers of problems with my phone, it had a power button that didnt work, unresponsive parts on the lcd and a quiet in call speaker.
Your best bet before trying to replace the whole pcb is opening your phone using a teardown guide
http://tjworld.net/blog/htc-desire-z-tear-down
Make sure you read it a couple of times and go through the pics so you know what your dealing with, find the power button, make sure its intact and adjust the ribbon cables.
Otherwise just find a cell phone repairer on a classified ad like criagslist or kijiji.
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i had someone take apart the phone and they said everything inside looked good. Im going to take it to another place tommorow and see if they can fix it....otherwise this is the 2nd smartphone that died on me. HTC told me to go to Bell...and i bought this phone 2nd hand. Trying to send my Galaxy S in was a Pain....anyone here know of good 3rd party repair services in Ontario?
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i had someone take apart the phone and they said everything inside looked good. Im going to take it to another place tommorow and see if they can fix it....otherwise this is the 2nd smartphone that died on me. HTC told me to go to Bell...and i bought this phone 2nd hand. Trying to send my Galaxy S in was a Pain....anyone here know of good 3rd party repair services in Ontario?
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I hate to say it, but it was second hand for a reason. Ever try switching the battery? How about changing the power supply?
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I hate to say it, but it was second hand for a reason. Ever try switching the battery? How about changing the power supply?
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Yes. Start simple. First check your electron hose to make sure you are getting power to the device. Also check the battery as well as the prongs that connect with the battery tabs. If things are good there, then think about tearing into the phone.
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I hate to say it, but it was second hand for a reason. Ever try switching the battery? How about changing the power supply?
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no no, dont say that. This phone was fine for 3 months, i dropped it at a club i went to and water got inside the phone....i took it to 3 repair people and they all said the Main PCB motherboard is damanged (water) soo does anyone have any idea where i can find a motherboard?? i have no problem with costs of replacing it. As long as its not more than the phone itself.
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no no, dont say that. This phone was fine for 3 months, i dropped it at a club i went to and water got inside the phone....i took it to 3 repair people and they all said the Main PCB motherboard is damanged (water) soo does anyone have any idea where i can find a motherboard?? i have no problem with costs of replacing it. As long as its not more than the phone itself.
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You didn't mention water damage in the OP. You said something was loose. Water damage is completly different.
Try ebay.
Hey i found these 3 ads on ebay...do you guys think that a swap of the motherboards would be fine? heres the ads. I contacted the seller and they said the battery was used and thats it but phone seemes operational....i know its a risk, but is it worth it guys?
..need help on this one.
why swap the motherboards if the new phone is working fine. Just transfer data and you're done surely?
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why swap the motherboards if the new phone is working fine. Just transfer data and you're done surely?
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Reason being the other phones have minor problems, like speaker doesnt work, or some of those phones wont pick up signals and i think thats due to a bad radio flash or if i just flash a radio everything should be working fine.
can someone please clarify this? if i buy a phone with a speaker problem and transfer the main PCB board to my old phone...will there still be a speaker problem? or is the speaker a separate unit itself and not related to the pcb board?
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can someone please clarify this? if i buy a phone with a speaker problem and transfer the main PCB board to my old phone...will there still be a speaker problem? or is the speaker a separate unit itself and not related to the pcb board?
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If am correct the speaker is a separate component
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If am correct the speaker is a separate component
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one of the phones i am bidding for says it might not be able to guarantee a connection to mobile network (send sms,make calls) could that be a radio flash problem? would i be able to fix that??
another is one of the phones boots on and shuts off, i take it that could be a bad flash or something? its only about $20. just trying to weigh my options cause the new phones are lkike bidding for $350 lol im not that rich yet
I found out that my MOTHERBOARD is fine. There was water damage but not enough to go inside to the main board! My dad tested the battery voltage and found i wasnt getting any voltage.
i went to future shop and found a lady to let me use her battery and sure enough the battery was working and phone powered on!!! so i guess my battery was shot from dropping and popping out of phone while recording a video.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330551036273
ordered these from ebay....are they any good? they look decent
Those look like the batteries I got. They were about 1/2 of the claimed mah rating. Worst case, they wiill get you running, and that charger is pretty good.
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That is why you bring a secondary phone to the club. Just sayin'.
BB Bold for the club, G2 for work and school, Iphone 4 for at home / chilling with friends.
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BB Bold for the club, G2 for work and school, Iphone 4 for at home / chilling with friends.
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So, made of money you are? Support your favorite ROM developer you should.
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Today i just went to get my Galaxy Gio fixed after i flashed official 2.3.5 from the forums here and got a wired bug, i mean i could not power the phone without pluging it in, and allways showing charging.. even without pluging it in. Acctualy the bug appeared after flashing CWM recovery.
Mabye it was an issue with the phone, but it happened the 1st time i flashed it.
Don`t flame on me it`s not the 1st time i flashed o phone with odin or used cfw on other andoid phones.
I created this thread because i talked to the samsung tehnician and he told me that the battey charging circuit was broken, more exacly the battery colector.
I want to ask your opinions if the hardware problem could be related to bad recovery/firmware power management or my battery colector was a ticking time bomb and it was just a coincidance.
I believe it was just a coincidence.
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Hmm, it just sounds like 'bad luck'...
Maybe you should try again? It may work this time
I too say coincidense. I've got two different types of Clockworkmod Recovery running on two different GT-S5660M phones, and neither of them have issues charging. Sort of...
The only issue i've come across was when the spare battery rides around in my pocket for a long long time and the overcharge protection circutry gets shocked with static electricity. Then the device refuses to charge until i discharge the static electricity. Then it works just fine.
I don't understand what you mean by "colector", but maybe you invoked this issue by somehow breaking USB port?.. I mean, say, short-circuiting some wires or whatever.
Anyway it looks like coincidence to me, should not be related to CWM.
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I don't understand what you mean by "colector", but maybe you invoked this issue by somehow breaking USB port?.. I mean, say, short-circuiting some wires or whatever.
Anyway it looks like coincidence to me, should not be related to CWM.
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Maybe 'collector' says something?? The thing were the power leaves the battery and goes into the phone, the power is 'collected by the collector'.
Easier I cant explain it, hopes this cleans things up
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oh so the power colector is the thighy that conects the battery to the phone.. as far as i see they changed the mini usb too... mabye all it`s just one sub asembly.
and i know that it sounds stupid that an recovery could affect it in any way
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oh so the power colector is the thighy that conects the battery to the phone.. as far as i see they changed the mini usb too... mabye all it`s just one sub asembly.
and i know that it sounds stupid that an recovery could affect it in any way
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I dont think it is, there might be happened something else, because if it whas recovery, it should be a known problem on XDA
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Actually, if you take it apart, you'll notice that the MicroUSB port is soldered directly to the motherboard. Odds are, they took a spare, flashed it with your IMEI etc., tuned the 2G and 3G radio chips for the antenna, then pitched the old board and sent you the same phone with a new motherboard. That would be far easier than trying to replace three chips, all of which could probably fit on your fingernail at the same time. The largest chip is the MSM7227, which is about the size of your thumbnail...
Anyway, whatever the hell the technician is talking about doesn't make any sense to me... Perhaps he's referring to the power management chip.
rooted first gen. cant remember the exact rom used but i think it was an aokp flavor. anyway the battery died to the point that leaving it on the stock charger for days did nothing. so i read a whole lot on the forums and set everything up to do the usb shorting trick. did everything as instructed exept... i grabbed the charger and inserted it instead of the usb cable. nothing happened as you would expect. set everything up again and tried again several times. and nothing. screen and power button stay blank after shorting for up to 6 minutes. bricked? i think so but i figured i would run it by the experts before i sold the screen and other parts to my brother.
jtag maybe
im bumping this cause i havent found a solution and my brother said no to buying the parts. anyone have an idea of a possible jtag soultion? i saw where the riff box will cover the omap 4430 but i have never tried this before and im sure of any prerequisites for jtagging. anybody?
quick test: hold down power button for ten seconds, and plug it into the wall. anything happen? sorry, my expertise in the area you describe is zilch.
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Tried that more times than I can remember... same results. Nothing. No lights or screen flicker. No beeps or new hardware from pc. Nothing. I still have hope though.
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Tried that more times than I can remember... same results. Nothing. No lights or screen flicker. No beeps or new hardware from pc. Nothing. I still have hope though.
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When you plug it in, does the CPU get hot?
Negative.
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You might be able to usbboot successfully if you replace the battery, but there's still a good chance that by using the wall charger instead of the USB cable during the short, you may have done permanent damage.
Thats what im starting to think... battery has been charged outside of the fire. Holds 4.0 volts so I dont think the battery has much to do with it. Id love to find someone with some jtag exp. I have none. All suggestions appreciated. And keep them coming if tou please. Thanks guys
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Thats what im starting to think... battery has been charged outside of the fire. Holds 4.0 volts so I dont think the battery has much to do with it. Id love to find someone with some jtag exp. I have none. All suggestions appreciated. And keep them coming if tou please. Thanks guys
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Oh, well it's screwed then. Even without a bootloader or xloader, the CPU would sill be working. In your case, it's not doing anything through battery or USB power, so you may have done irreparable damage to the hardware.
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Oh, well it's screwed then. Even without a bootloader or xloader, the CPU would sill be working. In your case, it's not doing anything through battery or USB power, so you may have done irreparable damage to the hardware.
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tried it again today and the cpu does get hot! now where to go from here?
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tried it again today and the cpu does get hot! now where to go from here?
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In that case, keep trying to usbboot. Users rarely get it on the first shot, so keep working at it.
been working at it for an hour or so. thank you so much for soupkit. i could never get firekit installed right. now i dont have to. any other pionts to short besides the one? mine is starting to look pretty scratched up. stuck at waiting for omap device
A while back i used to "try" to root stuff. I sucked at it BAD. Anyway, I have a Galaxy Note 8.0 (GT-N5110) that I had rooted to a certain point (very superficial) and I just kept it the way it was, that way I could use Multi-window for any app. This morning I unplug my tab from the charger only to be disappointed that it will not turn on. Ive tried different power outlets, different cables, different base chargers, even the whole "power+vol_up+home" thing... nothing. I never updated the tab when Kitkat came through the pipeline. Im freaking out that a new major update automatically happened overnight or something. Im sorry to trouble you all, but does anyone have suggestions? Since it's rooted I can't take it to Samsung or Best Buy. Honestly if I could just get it back to stock, that would be awesome, but im more concerned about getting it to simply turn on. Any Ideas?
If your device is rooted you won't get an OTA update so that could not be the problem. You can try to unplug battery (mus open the device)"and see what happened. Maybe your battery is faulty or someting else.
K... I appreciate it Ill take a look. But, lets say I actually open it (without making things worse), how do I determine if the battery is in fact faulty? If it is, can I get a replacement? preferably an official samsung one.
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Scratch that. Sry, Im just always scared of doin stuff, so I always feel like I have to ask the question, but I'll look it up. Im confident at least this should be easy enough for me to do Thank you again.
The problem with this device is you cannot pull out the battery easily. Maybe after that steps it boots up again.
Battery removal wasn't bad... now I'm just waiting for a new one (ordered on ebay, crossing fingers hoping it was legit). What did you mean "after that steps it boots up agin."? Will the tablet boot up without the battery if it's plugged in or something?
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Battery removal wasn't bad... now I'm just waiting for a new one (ordered on ebay, crossing fingers hoping it was legit). What did you mean "after that steps it boots up agin."? Will the tablet boot up without the battery if it's plugged in or something?
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Wow, that suck. sorry for you man. For now, try to plug the tablet to a computer and while device manager opened and see if there is change. If the change say "qhsusb" or something along that line and not your model number . . . changing battery wont do anything because it's already hard bricked. if not, finger cross.
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What did you mean "after that steps it boots up agin."? Will the tablet boot up without the battery if it's plugged in or something?
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No. But sometimes after this step and reconnecting the battery the device boots up. Also a battery calibration is done.
I tried plugging in the tablet to the computer with the old battery and then without any battery. Neither one prompted anything in the device manager. Today I got the new battery (assuming its legit and in good condition) in the mail. I plugged it in, and nothing. Plugged the tablet with the new battery to the wall charger, nothing. Plugged the tablet with the new battery to the computer while running device manager, nothing.
I'm going assume that the new battery is dead and let it stay connected to the wall charger for 8+ hrs, and see if there are any changes.
I just really don't understand what the deal is and why this would randomly happen. Ive never had problems with the firmware or anything. I have felt like there was an issue with the battery being that it doesn't seem to be keeping much of a charge... but for it to just Hard Brick like this seems so out of the blue. Can anyone provide me with additional suggestions please?
Maybe I'll ask it this way...
Is there any way to test if the batteries are food? That way I can at least determine if the tablet is in fact hard bricked or just bad batteries.
Might not be what you want to hear, but if different cables, chargers and batteries don't work, then maybe there was a power surge overnight while the device was plugged into the wall that took out the device (I once lost a computer that way and now I only use surge suppressors (note that not all power bars are proper surge protectors! See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surge_protector ) that are UL 1449 certified with a low clamping voltage and high energy absorption rating as a minimum; the fancier ones can even tell you if your wall outlet has a grounding problem). Or your tablet's USB port is broken, but that doesn't make sense based on what you've said thus far. Or you're just super-unlucky and all of your replacement parts are also faulty (it could happen). Either way, I've got my fingers crossed for you!
In the meantime, a multimeter would be able to tell if the batteries hold a charge, and whether or not power flows to the device when the battery is attached or the device is plugged into the wall or computer.
Just make sure you read up on how to use one first so you don't accidentally electrocute yourself:
https://learn.sparkfun.com/tutorials/how-to-use-a-multimeter
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In the meantime, a multimeter would be able to tell if the batteries hold a charge, and whether or not power flows to the device when the battery is attached or the device is plugged into the wall or computer.
Just make sure you read up on how to use one first so you don't accidentally electrocute yourself:
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Ill definitely be looking into this option in depth tomorrow, and deeply appreciate it. At least it's something. T_T I don't want my tablet going to electro grave. This sucks so bad. This has been a month from hell
First my printer decides its time to start printing crooked over a couple of months, getting so bad that it jams up a few weeks ago, requiring me to get a new printer, which has been a fiasco in and of itself that still hasnt been resolved. Ive gone through 4 printers in one week, all of them different model printers, all from HP, and each and every one of them defective.
Then my laptops video card tweaks out because of installing Splashtop Stream, which starts a domino effect requiring me to do a factory reset on the laptop.
Then my Tablet just decides to kill over.
Then my Microsoft Arc mouse decides it doesn't the want to wheel to work requiring me to purchase a new one, and when I receive it, the cover for the battery compartment is missing and the wheel click is defective. It took 2 and a half weeks to resolve
Then I get bronchitis.
all in less than a month.
Alright, ya... it's dead. Oh well. Here's me trying to make the most of it: are there any places that buy bricked tabs? I figure the parts have to have some sort of salvage value.... maybe.
You can't go to a Samsung service shop? They might not fix it under warranty, but I assume they'll have a look at it and give you an estimation? I feel for you, we all have had these awful weeks... I soft bricked my pad, my computer started to play up, my other computer decided it wanted to die after years of hard work and not skipping a beat, my son got the flu, the missus was on her monthly(grumpy wife..take cover), and when I took a break from it all on the toilet I found that we had run out of paper! To make matters worse, my favorite football team lost from a second division team.. This all happened in one single day! So chin up, it might take a week, but when all it's fixed again you'll experience deep appreciation for the things you have taken for granted.... (xda fixed my tablet, time fixed my wife)
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Sry for delayed response.
Im very very doubtful that Samsung will help. I have two more... ideas, before I go to Samsung. Non-invasive of coarse, wouldn't want to make matters worse.
K, So first off I took the tablet with extra battery to a tech place in the area that said the batteries are fine, but when they put a multimeter to the motherboard nothing came back. Basically its dead according to them. There's one more shop in the area I want to get a second opinion from. Next, does anyone know anything about an app called "Splashtop Stream"? I'm a fond user of Splashtop to control/view my computer straight my tablet, but when I installed "Splashtop Stream" to use the tablet as an extended screen (not just a cloned second screen), my tablet and both computers I tried it with did NOT like it. I immediately uninstalled it, but it dawned on me that it was just a matter of days later that my Tablet died. I hate to grasp at straws, but if an app like that is too resource intensive, I'm okay with seeing a connection that it fried my tablet. I can't just ask Splashtop "Hey, does your app fry motherboards", so I need a way of researching legitimate known problems. I can't afford a $400 tablet right now.
The reason why I'm using Samsung as a last resort is because it's outside my warranty time, and the moment they know that I did even the simple fast-mod on it, they'll slap it down and won't help. There no custom boot or Roms on it.
With all this said, any suggestions anyone?
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You can't go to a Samsung service shop? They might not fix it under warranty, but I assume they'll have a look at it and give you an estimation? I feel for you, we all have had these awful weeks... I soft bricked my pad, my computer started to play up, my other computer decided it wanted to die after years of hard work and not skipping a beat, my son got the flu, the missus was on her monthly(grumpy wife..take cover), and when I took a break from it all on the toilet I found that we had run out of paper! To make matters worse, my favorite football team lost from a second division team.. This all happened in one single day! So chin up, it might take a week, but when all it's fixed again you'll experience deep appreciation for the things you have taken for granted.... (xda fixed my tablet, time fixed my wife)
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O_O That does suck!! Sry man.
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Sry for delayed response.
Im very very doubtful that Samsung will help. I have two more... ideas, before I go to Samsung. Non-invasive of coarse, wouldn't want to make matters worse.
K, So first off I took the tablet with extra battery to a tech place in the area that said the batteries are fine, but when they put a multimeter to the motherboard nothing came back. Basically its dead according to them. There's one more shop in the area I want to get a second opinion from. Next, does anyone know anything about an app called "Splashtop Stream"? I'm a fond user of Splashtop to control/view my computer straight my tablet, but when I installed "Splashtop Stream" to use the tablet as an extended screen (not just a cloned second screen), my tablet and both computers I tried it with did NOT like it. I immediately uninstalled it, but it dawned on me that it was just a matter of days later that my Tablet died. I hate to grasp at straws, but if an app like that is too resource intensive, I'm okay with seeing a connection that it fried my tablet. I can't just ask Splashtop "Hey, does your app fry motherboards", so I need a way of researching legitimate known problems. I can't afford a $400 tablet right now.
The reason why I'm using Samsung as a last resort is because it's outside my warranty time, and the moment they know that I did even the simple fast-mod on it, they'll slap it down and won't help. There no custom boot or Roms on it.
With all this said, any suggestions anyone?
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I randomly bumped here and I'm no expert, but if your tablet's motherboard is indeed dead, I believe there is absolutely no way they can tell that the device got rooted at some point. You did not "hard brick" it, that's a whole other thing, or at least so I've learned in my not-very-long experience. "Hard brick" should be the result of flashing a kernel made some other device, which definitely is not your case. Moreover, that does not kill the motherboard, it just makes anything unbootable: it's a software problem, so it can actually be detected. You had a hardware failure that most likely completely wiped any proof that you have ever modified your device, so the only problem that you might have, I think, is them telling you that they take no responsibility for what your power outlet has done to the device, but they shouldn't be able to detect any modification that you have made. In my opinion technical support is worth trying.
Awesome!! Thank you so much!
varxtis said:
Awesome!! Thank you so much!
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You're welcome, good luck!
Just thought Id let everyone know that I managed to get Samsung to compromise on the matter since the Tablet is only 5 months past warranty (1yr 5mnths since purchase). So, not much longer and hopefully Ill have a tablet that works yet again.
Anyone else seeing the slow charging warning *lots* more since nougat?
Never have I had a phone that is so finicky about charging.
I mean.. just look at this!!
Are you using the original usb cable and charger plug?.
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Are you using the original usb cable and charger plug?.
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No. I'm using a premium quality cable and a qualcomm certified quick charger. Also been using normal charging ports with the same effect.
Have also tried various (good quality) cables.
"a premium quality cable" isn't necessarily as "premium" as you think. I've had what you would call "premium" cables and they turned out to be complete crap.
The only way you'll find out is to use the proper USB cable and charger that came with the phone.
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"a premium quality cable" isn't necessarily as "premium" as you think. I've had what you would call "premium" cables and they turned out to be complete crap.
The only way you'll find out is to use the proper USB cable and charger that came with the phone.
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The phone is so old that the original cable had it a long time ago.
Ive had this phone long enough to know a bug when i see one. And this is that. Right now, the phone is turned off, and using the same cable it is fast charging. But no matter how many times i plug/replug it when its booted it will not fast charge! And this is since nougat. the same cable before was not a problem.
This takes me back to the same issue i had before the phone got marshmallow. Same issue, same circumstances. Rearing its ugly head again.
Edit: Ive also never had the original charger. The one that came with the phone didnt work, and when i called htc for a replacement they said it would be a month or so and it never arrived.
You must beat the s**t out of your cables. I've had my phone nearly 2 years and the charger and cable are still in mint condition..
I remember the bug very well as it used to happen even with the htc cable and charger.
What about powersaver mode, does it still do it with that activated?.
I'm quite sure that if it was a nougat issue then you'd have a lot more replies.
How did you update the device to nougat?. If the update wasn't done correctly it can cause allsorts of issues.
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Your right. I do beat the **** out of them. They come to work with me, I'm a truck driver etc etc.
So maybe you could be right about how I updated. I have a EU version phone. I had swapped it over to Dev version to get nougat. And then because of locale issues, I swapped back to the EU version. Both times with a ruu.zip. But the second time without wiping data.
So maybe I will try a full reset and flash an ruu one day. But at the moment all else seems to be fine.
I'm not sure I am the only person experiencing this issue tho. If you look here https://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/general/strange-behavior-update-to-nougat-t3551367 this guy seems to be having charging issues too.
At this point I have no choice but to put it down to the way it has been handled.
Im not saying it HAS caused it but there is definitely a possibility.
Factory reset is in order I think. If it happens again after that, albeit a waste of time and effort, you'll have a better idea of the situation.
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Your right. I do beat the **** out of them. They come to work with me, I'm a truck driver etc etc.
So maybe you could be right about how I updated. I have a EU version phone. I had swapped it over to Dev version to get nougat. And then because of locale issues, I swapped back to the EU version. Both times with a ruu.zip. But the second time without wiping data.
So maybe I will try a full reset and flash an ruu one day. But at the moment all else seems to be fine.
I'm not sure I am the only person experiencing this issue tho. If you look here https://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/general/strange-behavior-update-to-nougat-t3551367 this guy seems to be having charging issues too.
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Without denying the possibility of a software cause, it could also be a hardware issue on your phone side too - my charging port got unseated (and damaged) from my ham-handedness. The great news for this phone is that it is fairly straightforward to repair, though there are great many of steps to follow. There are a couple of key points where you might damage your phone (notably the frame), but I have taken my phone apart several times without issue. Wracked my nerves doing it the first time, but after that you get a feel for how it's done. (....and it helps that purchasing a used M9 on Swappa isn't crazy expensive now that it's a couple years old)