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Why do you root?

Hello everyone,
I have a simple question that I have yet to come across a decent answer too.
What is the main or real reason people root there phone for.
Is it basically like jailbreaking the iPhone or are theredifferent reasons?
I've bought my EVO 4G about a month ago and have been waiting for a root for the gingerbread 2.3.3 update that came stock with my phone.
The reason I'm asking this is should I really be waiting for a root? In other words why am I waiting for a root?
I personally love the phone as it is and I have had no problems with it.
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I recommend not rooting if you are asking those questions. I'm not trying to be rude at all.
Root is the name of the admin account in the Linux and Unix operating systems. Think of not having root as running in protected mode.
If you accept the responsibility of maintaining your own security, and don't mind invalidating your warranty then it is for you.
I didn't decide to root until one of the OTA updates from sprint forced a trial video game down my throat that couldn't be uninstalled.
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Oh I forgot to add, if you are planning on rooting I highly recommend loading the ROM MIUI.
A forwarding, however, 4G has not been implemented yet. Not a downside for me though. I rarely used 4G. The 3G here is fast enough.
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I root due to the need to remove "everything" that "they" put in. If you do not understand you are one of "them"

Thank you for the reply I understand what root is as I run blackbuntu on my desktop.
I wanna know what makes it different. Why are so many people wanting root on the EVO?
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Some people do not like HTC Sense. Some of the Sense based custom rom's run smoother than the stock rom's.
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Because people want to truely have control of the content on their phone
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I understand that, but what I don't understand is why would people sell there phone and trade it in and all just because they don't have root.
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Trytohaxme said:
I understand that, but what I don't understand is why would people sell there phone and trade it in and all just because they don't have root.
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because not having root drains the battery faster because of the Sprint Bloatware. Also having root lets you control you phone and do what you please with it like flashing custom roms and kernals and radios and other groovy stuff.
My main reason I want root is not only to get rid of the bloatware but that way I can have a unique phone and not like 80% of everyone else who has a stock EVO

My reason was so I could have total control of my phone, streamline it by removing the stuff I don't need, freeing up memory and storage space, modifying it to look how I want it to, coaxing a faster, smoother phone and being able to try out different setups to see which gives me the best performance.
I never use thethering.

HipKat said:
My reason was so I could have total control of my phone, streamline it by removing the stuff I don't need, freeing up memory and storage space, modifying it to look how I want it to, coaxing a faster, smoother phone and being able to try out different setups to see which gives me the best performance.
I never use thethering.
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+1. Same reason except I tether from time to time
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I root for the custom roms and kernels. I'm a synergy fanboy but its close to stock. Check out YouTube, look for an MIUI video, its truly amazing.
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Because AOSP is how it should be.
And that rhymes too.

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Because AOSP is how it should be.
And that rhymes too.
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LOL, he has a valid point. People like AOSP, some people like sense. Rooting let's you pick 'n' choose. Not being "stuck" in stock. I love my phone heavily themed, the eye candy sets it away from my friends phone. Plus my battery life/performance are much greater. But of course there are lots of reason to root and not to.
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I root because I own the damn device.
Everything I do with that root access is secondary to that.

Well I would love to get rid of all the bloatware and the time sound delicious.
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Because the ladies love it
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I rooted for the ability to tether. It also comes in handy when you need to replace a file like the flash file so that I can watch hulu on my browser. Another thing I should point out, HDMwIn allows me to mirror my display (no limits) over to my tv. With stock and no root, I can only display videos/pictures I recorded myself.
If anything, once they find a way to root 2.3.3, you should try it. Then if you don't like it, you can always set it back to oem status. There's a guide somewhere here.
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I root for mobile hotspot.
29.99 to tether with Sprint's 3G? bah, haha, ha, ha-ha

Being able to fix security holes and update your phone yourself is another big upside to having root; you can make sure it's secure yourself without having to wait forever for an update that may or may not come. That also happens to be one of the reasons why you will not see MIUI on my phone.

Counter?

Well, I recently got the S3 is rooted running Xquizit v35. But my main question is what exactly is the counter?
is there any bad things if it gets too high? does it need to be reset?
Oh, and based on your opinion and experience what is the best ROM for us T-Mo S3 users out there?

The counter is for samsung to tell if you have ever modified your device. They do this for warranty purpose, if it is tripped then they will charge you. However Chainfire has an app out called Triangle away that will put your counter to zero.

There is no such as the BEST ROM...I recommend cm10 ...its a great noob ROM...its stable enough for daily use.
http://get.cm/?device=d2tmo
You can download it there...make sure you get the latest gapps because the ROM doesn't have them reinstalled
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handman29 said:
There is no such as the BEST ROM...I recommend cm10 ...its a great noob ROM...its stable enough for daily use.
http://get.cm/?device=d2tmo
You can download it there...make sure you get the latest gapps because the ROM doesn't have them reinstalled
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And I would disagree it a very un-noob rom, it has words they'd have to search "nightly" "milestone" "gapps" better option, stock ROM debloated, or stock ROM with root permission and learn what you can do from there.
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mt3g said:
And I would disagree it a very un-noob rom, it has words they'd have to search "nightly" "milestone" "gapps" better option, stock ROM debloated, or stock ROM with root permission and learn what you can do from there.
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If you've flashed you have to send Samsung $15 if you want to keep your warranty.

Well, I'm not a noob at android I know most about it. I'm just new to Samsung. I haven't tried CM10 since I'm mainly about battery life w/ a good performance. How's the battery life on CM10? And I guess I'll try to reset my counter with that app. Thanks guys!
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FWIW my counter is at 15 right now. (See how worried I am about it)
Just download Triangle Away and run it when you want. After each flash, once a week, never. It all depends on how careless/ful you are when flashing and if you bork something so bad, it has to be returned for warranty.
Also best ROM threads are frowned upon bc they always turn into pissing contests.

How do I check my counter?
type R-blood

Actionx1 said:
How do I check my counter?
type R-blood
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Either run triangle away or boot into download mode. Both will show your flash counter.
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Ok, so can't ask "best ROM", but, is everything working and stable in any particular version of CM10?
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I see people talking about the warranty aspect of it, but I found out the hard way that having the counter not zeroed out affects the way some T-Mo and Samsung services work. Examples:
1) I was excited the AllShare Cast dongle for $50, got it all hooked up, then had this problem where every time the phone tried to hook up to the hub, it would just disconnect after a few seconds. After doing some reading, it was discovered that if your flash count reset back to zero (and binary showing as "official"), then the hub worked just fine. So I did the Triangle Away business, and bam. Worked like a charm.
2) There was a promotion a little while back where T-Mobile customers could view or download The Avengers movie from one of the bloatware apps I removed long ago. I don't remember all the details, but the download only worked once the counter and then the TV app data were both reset.
So there are real world reasons to go ahead and reset the flash counter back to zero. It just took me a little bit of time to figure this out myself. And now I'm passing the savings on to youuuuu!

Thanks for that! That's a heads up
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How many of you are not rooted?

Just wondering.....that is all. I don't have the knowledge or the "need to" to root my phone does everything I want it to, so I never rooted.
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I rooted my s2 as soon as I got last year. I've run many roms. My favorite was Juggs 5.0. When ICS officially came out, I Odin to stock ICS. I rooted it so I could add my 15 toggle panel back on. There are a few apps I had that required root. I'm eager to get some JellyBean on it though. I did flash the google now and google ears. Those are pretty cool.

droptopMP said:
Just wondering.....that is all. I don't have the knowledge or the "need to" to root my phone does everything I want it to, so I never rooted.
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Same here, still running stock ICS. If Jellybean is as smooth as they say and we get an official release, I may not ever root. At least not any time soon ...
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I'm pretty sure we're all rooted. Why would anyone come to xda? And what good is xda to a non rooted phone? Just sayen'
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^This.

RushAOZ said:
I'm pretty sure we're all rooted. Why would anyone come to xda? And what good is xda to a non rooted phone? Just sayen'
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I come here, even though I am on the stock ROM on my current phone, to keep up with custom development for my phone. Even though I may not choose to load any of the ROMs or other mods provided here, it is still an excellent learning and news resource.

sgalbincea said:
I come here, even though I am on the stock ROM on my current phone, to keep up with custom development for my phone. Even though I may not choose to load any of the ROMs or other mods provided here, it is still an excellent learning and news resource.
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That's like going to culinary school then never stepping foot in a kitchen.......
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droptopMP said:
Just wondering.....that is all. I don't have the knowledge or the "need to" to root my phone does everything I want it to, so I never rooted.
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What's unrooted mean?

sirdowski said:
That's like going to culinary school then never stepping foot in a kitchen.......
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Haha good analogy. Also if didn't want to root and tinker, I'd probably own a iPhone. But to each their own.
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badaphooko01 said:
Haha good analogy. Also if didn't want to root and tinker, I'd probably own a iPhone. But to each their own.
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A jailbroken ifone is still gay. I'll rock a stock android over that crap.

sgalbincea said:
I come here, even though I am on the stock ROM on my current phone, to keep up with custom development for my phone. Even though I may not choose to load any of the ROMs or other mods provided here, it is still an excellent learning and news resource.
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Let's not knock this guy's choice to not root. At least he's here, following development and learning. How many "HELPPPP MY PHONE IS BRICKED!!!!!" threads have you seen? I'd say this guy wouldn't be one of those people if he tried to.
As for the OP I'm glad you had the sense to realize that without the know how, there's no point in risking it.
I rooted on day one, but to each his own
(Edit to clean up the wording. I'm high lol)
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sgalbincea said:
I come here, even though I am on the stock ROM on my current phone, to keep up with custom development for my phone. Even though I may not choose to load any of the ROMs or other mods provided here, it is still an excellent learning and news resource.
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Same here. My last phone (LG P500), which has now gone to my wife, is rooted and I like to stay tuned to developments for it as well. I expect that I'll root once I get 4.1 for my T989D (assuming it comes), then see what custom ROMs can offer beyond that. I've been reading these forums for over a month now to learn the procedures and of potential pitfalls so I don't wreck my phone when the time comes.
This phone is quite a step up from the P500, so I'm pretty happy without root for the time being.

mulletcutter said:
A jailbroken ifone is still gay. I'll rock a stock android over that crap.
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I'm guessing by this statement, that you are a young teenager. I am an Android user and have been for quite a while. I honestly prefer to live my life and not have to tweak a phone's core OS for it to work right. It should work correctly right out of the box. Having to reset my phone several times a day or deal with bloatware is not fun. The nature of Android OS to begin with requires de-bloat/hacking.
Anyway like I said this is coming from a SGS2 user and former iPhone user as well. Only reason I don't go back is iPhones are still physically small for my liking. That and I'm on contract with T-Mobile and live in a building with poor reception (need WiFi calling)

Bought the phone ... rooted it in less than an hour xD. But, after browsing through some roms, I am in stock now just because everything works. However, I do run some rooted apps that come in handy at times.

Battery
I wanted something close to stock, so I went infamous 3.0 and it's just as stable, but the battery life is so much better than stock ICS. Would never go back.

I think its insane to deal with bloatware. Its androids biggest flaw. And theaon reason I root.
Flash Jedi jelly. I promise you won't regret. ( you will lose WiFi calling tho)
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rooted and it rules
droptopMP said:
Just wondering.....that is all. I don't have the knowledge or the "need to" to root my phone does everything I want it to, so I never rooted.
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Rooting is essential to both experience android and master it
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To root or not to root?

Im just using the stock gs3 from tmo.
If you all would be so kind as to give me a few pros/cons to root for this phone.
Im am not concerned about voiding warranty.
Im wondering if there are any immediate perks to being rooted:
like bypassing tmo's restriction on wifi hotspot; to my knowledge, tmo now only lets their customers use wifi hotspot with the 5gb plan and not the 2gb plan.
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I'm short on time right now but if you root your phone you can download an app called wifi tether, which requires root permission, then you use your phone data on your laptop all you want.
With a rooted phone you can also download new roms that people develope and try out a lot of new functions before the official update.
You are more exposed to security risks once you root your phone I believe, but just don't install apps from random sites
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I really see no cons to rooting except warranty which isn't really true. If you study the warranty and know your stuff you can verbally defend your right to root and not lose warranty.
Pros: everything.

I do not see the point of having a non rooted android phone with some sort of recovery.. Custom ROMs, themes and titanium backup for all your apps

here ya go http://bit.ly/UUaCxg

Don't do it and please leave.

All you need to do is read over all the great threads around here to form a decision.
To root.
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Ive rooted before and I have explored almost all the developers' work on other phones.
Just to clarify im asking about this phone specifically. The first guy already answered my biggest concern about the wifi hotspot.
If you guys can think of any other immediate perks like: unwarranted tmo restrictions that are resolved via rooting this phone.
I will never go back to bone stock gs3 because I would miss out on _________.
Im already aware of the capability to "pirate" most paid apps.
Also there's the possibility of finding a more buttery smooth rom than the stock rom of course.
Extra battery life via underclocking with an aftermarket kernel is obviously another big one, but things im looking for are things on the same level as how rooting allows me to bypass the wifi hotspot limitations that tmo put on the 2gb plan
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I'd say that if you just want a phone to work and don't get about any extra stuff, don't bother rooting it. If you're interested in modifying your phone and basically being capable of doing A LOT more than you can with stock, root it.
Just make sure you do a lot of research before you do anything. I read hundreds of pages on this forum before I did anything just in case.

Adfree app, which requires root, changes everything for the better.

I mainly use my root for ad block, titanium backup, and maybe delete gsiff_daemon (didn't delete it yet because it hasn't tried to kill my battery yet). Something else that could be useful maybe GMD gesture control

There are a lot of nice apps that require root. Even if you don't have any apps in mind now, at some point you'll probably come across one you want and you'll kick yourself for not having gotten around to rooting yet. Besides tripping the flash counter and warranties the only con is the possibility of failing miserably and bricking your phone, but as long as you follow instructions you'll be fine.

ability to flash different radios for better/worse signal.
ability to flash different roms for better/worse battery life.

I have rooted every Android I have had in the Nexus One/Mytouch4G/HTC Amaze....and have had my s3 for a good 4 months now and have yet to root it.
Just meets my current needs and runs awesome without root.
I may one day, but honestly don't have the time or want right now.
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Jesse im in the same boat, the phone is already pretty snappy...
Im considering rooting it though to bypass tmo's restriction on wifi hotspot, and to be able to use google voice as my voicemail.
When I finally do root ill be looking forward to checking out the endless development for this popular device
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JesseMT4G said:
I have rooted every Android I have had in the Nexus One/Mytouch4G/HTC Amaze....and have had my s3 for a good 4 months now and have yet to root it.
Just meets my current needs and runs awesome without root.
I may one day, but honestly don't have the time or want right now.
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Took me 2 months to root mine... for the same reasons. Stock runs just fine... im just too into the customizations so I broke down nland rooted
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GalaxyS3Guy said:
Took me 2 months to root mine... for the same reasons. Stock runs just fine... im just too into the customizations so I broke down nland rooted
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2 months? I know better
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mrmako777 said:
2 months? I know better
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It did... u know it did. U buggee me till i did only to finally root yourself just so u can stay on stock rooted as always
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I rooted my phone mostly for Sixaxis. I play a a lot of emulators. Paired with the Gameklip I'm living the dream.
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GalaxyS3Guy said:
It did... u know it did. U buggee me till i did only to finally root yourself just so u can stay on stock rooted as always
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Lmao...I gave wicked a shot, along with slim bean and something else I don't recall
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Getting a Different Phone

I have a Samsung Galaxy SIII from AT&T (d2att ), and I have it rooted, running task650's AOKP, and TWRP 2.4.1.0 for recovery. It works fantastic, and I love it I have, however, been trying everything I can think of to try and get ktoonsez's kernel to work on it, for the features that his kernel offers. I am having a funky issue, which according to task, kt, and a few others on the boards, is device-related. It seems that my phone, individually, is the problem. This leads me to my question.
How feasible is it to get AT&T (or Samsung?) to replace my phone, based on the fact that there is something different hardware-wise between mine and the vast majority of other peoples?
It seems that nearly everyone who runs this combination of task and ktoonsez has nothing but good things to say, and I have yet to see anyone gripe about the same issues that I have had, and not be able to fix them, usually by a simple full wipe. I have tried to do full wipes with and without letting Google initialize/restore my account. I have tried going back to stock everything, and trying again. I have made sure to turn off Performance Control, so there should be no conflict there. I have tried setting up my phone in its entirety, restoring information, restoring apps with TiBu, and then installing the kernel. I have tried with and without deleting mpdecision. I am following all of the directions posted per OP for both threads, and with the gapps posted by task himself. Nothing works, and I end up in a glitchy boot loop almost immediately after flashing the kernel, even if my phone was running buttery stable before the flash.
I have come up with a couple things to try tonight, but if they don't work, I would like to pursue getting a new phone to replace this one. Is that an option?

You will need to do a warranty replacement through Samsung unless you have device insurance through att. But then you will be paying the deductable on it.
There are quite a few reports of people in ktoonsez's thread that stated they had to return their device and get a new one for his kernel to work. Not sure you searched good enough. But either way, you are not the first to have a device that cant run his kernel. I can assure you of that.

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You will need to do a warranty replacement through Samsung unless you have device insurance through att. But then you will be paying the deductable on it.
There are quite a few reports of people in ktoonsez's thread that stated they had to return their device and get a new one for his kernel to work. Not sure you searched good enough. But either way, you are not the first to have a device that cant run his kernel. I can assure you of that.
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Thank you. I may not have read it well enough Do you mean the deductible through Samsung or AT&T? And ho do I approach the warranty? I know, at least where I work, we wouldn't honor a warranty on something that was used for purposes outside of it's intended use (i.e. rooting). Granted, I don't work for a phone company

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Thank you. I may not have read it well enough Do you mean the deductible through Samsung or AT&T? And ho do I approach the warranty? I know, at least where I work, we wouldn't honor a warranty on something that was used for purposes outside of it's intended use (i.e. rooting). Granted, I don't work for a phone company
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It would be the deductible through AT&T if you have device insurance. If going through Samsung, something would have to be a manufacturers defect in order for them to warrant a replacement device. I don't think either company will replace the device because you can't use a custom kernel. So you would need to get creative on your story before you go either route.

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It would be the deductible through AT&T if you have device insurance. If going through Samsung, something would have to be a manufacturers defect in order for them to warrant a replacement device. I don't think either company will replace the device because you can't use a custom kernel. So you would need to get creative on your story before you go either route.
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Settling In
I don't know if this could be a factor but, you will experience something commonly called a settling in period after installing a new kernel.
I have been through trying a couple other custom kernels for I747 plus all the progression of KT747 releases for TW ICS and TW JB since 9-23 release and have been through two phones due to warranty replacement. On both phones I have experienced significant settling in glitches for a while after flashing KT's or other kernels. These include crashing on boot, frequent screen freezes after boot, KTweaker settings not sticking, etc. These issues are far more extreme on first install of kernel than when flashing a new release to phone that already has kernel installed. First boot after first install can take about twenty problematic boot attempts to start behaving and it can take two or three days before kernel "settles in" and problems pretty much disappear.
In my feeble little mind, I envision the new kernel having to grow neurons into the guts of the phone hardware.
If you want to run this kernel and your phone will basically boot but, is all glitchy, I would say don't freak out. Have some patience, just keep rebooting, and give it time to settle in. For most the phone will straighten out in a few days.
Hope this helps.

bsam55 said:
I don't know if this could be a factor but, you will experience something commonly called a settling in period after installing a new kernel.
I have been through trying a couple other custom kernels for I747 plus all the progression of KT747 releases for TW ICS and TW JB since 9-23 release and have been through two phones due to warranty replacement. On both phones I have experienced significant settling in glitches for a while after flashing KT's or other kernels. These include crashing on boot, frequent screen freezes after boot, KTweaker settings not sticking, etc. These issues are far more extreme on first install of kernel than when flashing a new release to phone that already has kernel installed. First boot after first install can take about twenty problematic boot attempts to start behaving and it can take two or three days before kernel "settles in" and problems pretty much disappear.
In my feeble little mind, I envision the new kernel having to grow neurons into the guts of the phone hardware.
If you want to run this kernel and your phone will basically boot but, is all glitchy, I would say don't freak out. Have some patience, just keep rebooting, and give it time to settle in. For most the phone will straighten out in a few days.
Hope this helps.
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I suppose that is possibly what's going on with mine, I'll give it a couple more tries
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Just an advice, make sure you restore everything to stock before you do
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pcshano said:
Just an advice, make sure you restore everything to stock before you do
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I will be doing that In the meantime, any suggestions for how to explain my way into a warranty exchange? I thought about wiping everything, so it won't even boot, and saying that lol
Also, even if I flash back to stock, won't they be able to see that it had been flashed different before?
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drinfernoo said:
I will be doing that In the meantime, any suggestions for how to explain my way into a warranty exchange? I thought about wiping everything, so it won't even boot, and saying that lol
Also, even if I flash back to stock, won't they be able to see that it had been flashed different before?
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Just depends on how thorough the at&t rep is. You have to Odin back to stock, triangle away, unroot and factory reset for them not to know at all.
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drinfernoo said:
I will be doing that In the meantime, any suggestions for how to explain my way into a warranty exchange? I thought about wiping everything, so it won't even boot, and saying that lol
Also, even if I flash back to stock, won't they be able to see that it had been flashed different before?
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Do not intentionally brick your device. That could be just as bad as leaving your phone rooted when you take it in (depending if Samsung can see any part of the storage). As far as warranty exchange "excuse" that is on you to decide. Follow the post quoted below to help your chance at warranty exchange. This has been discussed quite a bit all over the place.
hednik said:
Just depends on how thorough the at&t rep is. You have to Odin back to stock, triangle away, unroot and factory reset for them not to know at all.
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You know, I've run tasks rom since it was still 4.1 and have always used the kernel provided in his rom. It runs great, and I wouldn't change it. My battery life and everything else is great. I can get 17 hrs with 3 hrs 34 mins screen time and have 20% battery left. I think trying to get a replacement device just to run a different kernel is absurd... just my .02 cents worth
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G-Man. said:
You know, I've run tasks rom since it was still 4.1 and have always used the kernel provided in his rom. It runs great, and I wouldn't change it. My battery life and everything else is great. I can get 17 hrs with 3 hrs 34 mins screen time and have 20% battery left. I think trying to get a replacement device just to run a different kernel is absurd... just my .02 cents worth
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I completely agree. I'm on tasks currently using his underwear kernel provided. I've also tried KT's kernel as well. Yes you can get more customization with KT's and his custom governor, but is it worth it to go through all the hassle to get a new device? I would say no. Like I said I've tried both kernels, I'm currently using tasks underwear kernel, I may try KT's again, may not. When I did before, I didn't notice a drastic difference between the two, esp not enough to warrant going through a device replacement.
Consider this. You are running tasks rom with absolutely no issues with the kernel he provides. Is that not good enough? I know it is for me. His rom is absolutely the most stable rom I've ever tried on any device. Remember it's just a phone. Just some food for thought.
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Probably right, but i don't always run task's ROM, either. My favorite ROM so far has actually been ParanoidKANGDroid, but I wanted 4.2.1, so I went to task. I'm actually running PACman right now, and for the time being, even his PC is broken
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No matter which rom you are running, it's crazy to exchange a device (and having to lie to do it) just to run a different kernel... think about it...
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G-Man. said:
No matter which rom you are running, it's crazy to exchange a device (and having to lie to do it) just to run a different kernel... think about it...
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Of course, but if it allows me more flexibilities and control over my phone and what it does, I'm all over that
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Bricking your phone would be the easiest way to get a new one and I've seen plenty of people accidentally bricking their i747 and getting a new one from Samsung. They won't even check if its rooted or not.
Check this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34556189
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Bricking your phone would be the easiest way to get a new one and I've seen plenty of people accidentally bricking their i747 and getting a new one from Samsung. They won't even check if its rooted or not.
Check this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34556189
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That's a douche bag move.... pain and simple.
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That's a douche bag move.... pain and simple.
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When the s3$ first come out, a lot of people were bricking them. Trying to root or installing an international ROM. I'm pretty sure Samsung staff was aware of that but they still gave free replacement. Some people even got a replacement from att or others carriers for free.
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If I do end up getting a replacement, can I take a nandroid, and restore it to the new phone?
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