Well, I recently got the S3 is rooted running Xquizit v35. But my main question is what exactly is the counter?
is there any bad things if it gets too high? does it need to be reset?
Oh, and based on your opinion and experience what is the best ROM for us T-Mo S3 users out there?
The counter is for samsung to tell if you have ever modified your device. They do this for warranty purpose, if it is tripped then they will charge you. However Chainfire has an app out called Triangle away that will put your counter to zero.
There is no such as the BEST ROM...I recommend cm10 ...its a great noob ROM...its stable enough for daily use.
http://get.cm/?device=d2tmo
You can download it there...make sure you get the latest gapps because the ROM doesn't have them reinstalled
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handman29 said:
There is no such as the BEST ROM...I recommend cm10 ...its a great noob ROM...its stable enough for daily use.
http://get.cm/?device=d2tmo
You can download it there...make sure you get the latest gapps because the ROM doesn't have them reinstalled
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And I would disagree it a very un-noob rom, it has words they'd have to search "nightly" "milestone" "gapps" better option, stock ROM debloated, or stock ROM with root permission and learn what you can do from there.
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And I would disagree it a very un-noob rom, it has words they'd have to search "nightly" "milestone" "gapps" better option, stock ROM debloated, or stock ROM with root permission and learn what you can do from there.
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If you've flashed you have to send Samsung $15 if you want to keep your warranty.
Well, I'm not a noob at android I know most about it. I'm just new to Samsung. I haven't tried CM10 since I'm mainly about battery life w/ a good performance. How's the battery life on CM10? And I guess I'll try to reset my counter with that app. Thanks guys!
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FWIW my counter is at 15 right now. (See how worried I am about it)
Just download Triangle Away and run it when you want. After each flash, once a week, never. It all depends on how careless/ful you are when flashing and if you bork something so bad, it has to be returned for warranty.
Also best ROM threads are frowned upon bc they always turn into pissing contests.
How do I check my counter?
type R-blood
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Either run triangle away or boot into download mode. Both will show your flash counter.
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Ok, so can't ask "best ROM", but, is everything working and stable in any particular version of CM10?
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I see people talking about the warranty aspect of it, but I found out the hard way that having the counter not zeroed out affects the way some T-Mo and Samsung services work. Examples:
1) I was excited the AllShare Cast dongle for $50, got it all hooked up, then had this problem where every time the phone tried to hook up to the hub, it would just disconnect after a few seconds. After doing some reading, it was discovered that if your flash count reset back to zero (and binary showing as "official"), then the hub worked just fine. So I did the Triangle Away business, and bam. Worked like a charm.
2) There was a promotion a little while back where T-Mobile customers could view or download The Avengers movie from one of the bloatware apps I removed long ago. I don't remember all the details, but the download only worked once the counter and then the TV app data were both reset.
So there are real world reasons to go ahead and reset the flash counter back to zero. It just took me a little bit of time to figure this out myself. And now I'm passing the savings on to youuuuu!
Thanks for that! That's a heads up
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Has anyone bricked using triangle away? If so, which rom were you on?
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Has anyone bricked using triangle away? If so, which from were you on?
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Ya man,i used it the other day. You can only run it with ICS kernels a or you will likely brick.I'm on Calkins FD02Ics2V1.4. Worked great. A little nerve racking but no more bindery count!
It only works with ICS and make sure u follow all directions, especially making sure the info matches, binary count needs to be exact, model# should match unless u have the wrong bootloader and make sure if the triangle is or isn't visible that matches as well, otherwise there's a chance of bricking if the info isn't matched up
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It only works with ICS and make sure u follow all directions, especially making sure the info matches, binary count needs to be exact, model# should match unless u have the wrong bootloader and make sure if the triangle is or isn't visible that matches as well, otherwise there's a chance of bricking if the info isn't matched up
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Thanks for the help!!
I haven't tried triangle away yet, my flash counter is now at 37 but I don't have the yellow triangle so it doesnt bother me at all. Alot of ppl have used it numerous times tho and I haven't seen anyone brick from it as of yet, atleast not on our device. I did see 1 person who bricked on another version of the sgs2 but their info in the app didn't match up the product ID meaning they most likely had the wrong bootloader installed to begin with
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What about cm9
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What about cm9
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I started using this after flashing CM9 Alpha1. No issues at all. Just used it a few minutes ago again after flashing a FD16 based kernel for CM9 through odin.
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What about cm9
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Theoretically it will work with any ICS rom/kernel combo for the time being, eventually Samsung may patch the exploit that allows it to work or they may not. Apparently they will have to actively hide the partitions to disable the apps functionality so they may or may not go that far to patch it.
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I used it with CM9 Alpha 3 yesterday. Everything went through without a hitch.. YMMV though... It has a warning before using.. That's what made me a bit weary.
Hi all,
I'm still on the fence about rooting my t989 and so I'm looking for advice. I got the 2.3.6 update and I really want ICS but I'm willing to wait for it though. Also, I'm pretty conservative when it comes to risks such as rooting due to warranties, bricking, and losing functionality. However, I'll be traveling for a while and tethering could be handy and titanium backup has always been attractive to me. But what happens if ICS comes out? I think I loose root if I update OTA, but I should be able to get root again. I'm not a big fan of real 3rd party software because I don't want to work with bugs so if I got a new ROM, it may only be CM9 or similar as reliability is important to me. And then I don't want a new ROM if it doesn't use the Linux Kernel since Ubuntu is developing that OS to share that Kernel. Do I even need a new ROM? I think touchwiz is fine. Pages of apps are better than scrolling through them IMO.
So any suggestions on what I should do? Thanks!
Root it unless you plan on running stock ics. Chances are the ota will be releases here before it hits your phone we have a couple really nice ics roms right now. Don't know what your waiting for lol
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If you want to root, root. More than likely you will be able to download the stock ICS rom from here before you get it on your phone. As soon as one person gets it, our awesome devs will be on it like flys on ****, and we will see a stock rooted rom almost immediately.
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If you want to root, root. More than likely you will be able to download the stock ICS rom from here before you get it on your phone. As soon as one person gets it, our awesome devs will be on it like flys on ****, and we will see a stock rooted rom almost immediately.
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I was rooted however I dropped my phone last week and had to get a replacement now I am just gonna wait for ICS to drop...
It's all good with me, at least I have my wifi calling and no delay or echo while taking my minibath.
Rooted mine several weeks ago. Tired of waiting for official ICS from T-Mobile and Samsung. Once the official version is released, the devs will have a rooted version available for flashing so you won't have to un-root.
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Just root, you won't be disappointed. Plus you can always go back if you want.
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This isn't iOS. Don't think about and root it
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Just root it you will be happier plus its just as easy to unroot as it is to root
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Was on 2.3.6 rooted for months waiting on ICS update. We finally got a rom yesterday that doesn't have any call echo problems, or really any problems. Flashed darkside's newest 4.0.4 rom this morning and have had smooth sailing all day.
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iLeopard said:
This isn't iOS. Don't think about and root it
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+1. Its easy to unroot and return to stock if need be. Till then we have fully functional daily driver ics roms already so what are you waiting for? Take control of your device. That's why you went with android over iOS and wp7 in the first place anyway isnt it?
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Thanks for your suggestions. I'll go ahead and root. I really want titanium backup. Is this the best thread for a HOW TO root?: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1514434
bripod said:
Thanks for your suggestions. I'll go ahead and root. I really want titanium backup. Is this the best thread for a HOW TO root?: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1514434
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This is the thread i followed to root. Very simple instructions. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1311194 but yeah same method one has pics one dont.
Edit: Unrooting the phone is the same process as rooting except you flash a different file to the phone.
My suggestion is to root. But don't sweat CM9 it is pretty buggy right now because its still beta and isn't officially supported on our phones. But there are plenty of stable ICS roms now and even if u don't care for the few bugs that some may have, there are also some amazing GB rooms out there too.
Just my 2 cents.
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But I don't NEED a new ROM do I? Doesn't it just change the GUI? Basically I just want tethering and freeze bloat apps and ads, but a battery life boost would be great. How much does it change under the hood to expand capability? From what I can tell, root apps are the only thing that expands features.
Root and install a rom... If you think your phone is good, with a rom you'll see your phone is just great
Sorry for all my questions but is the kernel held within the ROM? And whatever ROM I choose, I can just flash to different just like that huh? Like it's an easy process?
My brother has Juggernaut, it didn't look any different than touchwiz except for flashy little things like the screen turn off and stuff. I just need function, not flash.
Some roms com with their own kernels, like TDJ's ones... You can flash a rom and then change it for another, but you have to wipe your data for a clean install (there's always the option to backup your info)
Questions go in the Q&A section
Just wondering.....that is all. I don't have the knowledge or the "need to" to root my phone does everything I want it to, so I never rooted.
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I rooted my s2 as soon as I got last year. I've run many roms. My favorite was Juggs 5.0. When ICS officially came out, I Odin to stock ICS. I rooted it so I could add my 15 toggle panel back on. There are a few apps I had that required root. I'm eager to get some JellyBean on it though. I did flash the google now and google ears. Those are pretty cool.
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Just wondering.....that is all. I don't have the knowledge or the "need to" to root my phone does everything I want it to, so I never rooted.
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Same here, still running stock ICS. If Jellybean is as smooth as they say and we get an official release, I may not ever root. At least not any time soon ...
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I'm pretty sure we're all rooted. Why would anyone come to xda? And what good is xda to a non rooted phone? Just sayen'
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^This.
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I'm pretty sure we're all rooted. Why would anyone come to xda? And what good is xda to a non rooted phone? Just sayen'
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I come here, even though I am on the stock ROM on my current phone, to keep up with custom development for my phone. Even though I may not choose to load any of the ROMs or other mods provided here, it is still an excellent learning and news resource.
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I come here, even though I am on the stock ROM on my current phone, to keep up with custom development for my phone. Even though I may not choose to load any of the ROMs or other mods provided here, it is still an excellent learning and news resource.
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That's like going to culinary school then never stepping foot in a kitchen.......
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Just wondering.....that is all. I don't have the knowledge or the "need to" to root my phone does everything I want it to, so I never rooted.
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What's unrooted mean?
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That's like going to culinary school then never stepping foot in a kitchen.......
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Haha good analogy. Also if didn't want to root and tinker, I'd probably own a iPhone. But to each their own.
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Haha good analogy. Also if didn't want to root and tinker, I'd probably own a iPhone. But to each their own.
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A jailbroken ifone is still gay. I'll rock a stock android over that crap.
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I come here, even though I am on the stock ROM on my current phone, to keep up with custom development for my phone. Even though I may not choose to load any of the ROMs or other mods provided here, it is still an excellent learning and news resource.
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Let's not knock this guy's choice to not root. At least he's here, following development and learning. How many "HELPPPP MY PHONE IS BRICKED!!!!!" threads have you seen? I'd say this guy wouldn't be one of those people if he tried to.
As for the OP I'm glad you had the sense to realize that without the know how, there's no point in risking it.
I rooted on day one, but to each his own
(Edit to clean up the wording. I'm high lol)
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I come here, even though I am on the stock ROM on my current phone, to keep up with custom development for my phone. Even though I may not choose to load any of the ROMs or other mods provided here, it is still an excellent learning and news resource.
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Same here. My last phone (LG P500), which has now gone to my wife, is rooted and I like to stay tuned to developments for it as well. I expect that I'll root once I get 4.1 for my T989D (assuming it comes), then see what custom ROMs can offer beyond that. I've been reading these forums for over a month now to learn the procedures and of potential pitfalls so I don't wreck my phone when the time comes.
This phone is quite a step up from the P500, so I'm pretty happy without root for the time being.
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A jailbroken ifone is still gay. I'll rock a stock android over that crap.
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I'm guessing by this statement, that you are a young teenager. I am an Android user and have been for quite a while. I honestly prefer to live my life and not have to tweak a phone's core OS for it to work right. It should work correctly right out of the box. Having to reset my phone several times a day or deal with bloatware is not fun. The nature of Android OS to begin with requires de-bloat/hacking.
Anyway like I said this is coming from a SGS2 user and former iPhone user as well. Only reason I don't go back is iPhones are still physically small for my liking. That and I'm on contract with T-Mobile and live in a building with poor reception (need WiFi calling)
Bought the phone ... rooted it in less than an hour xD. But, after browsing through some roms, I am in stock now just because everything works. However, I do run some rooted apps that come in handy at times.
Battery
I wanted something close to stock, so I went infamous 3.0 and it's just as stable, but the battery life is so much better than stock ICS. Would never go back.
I think its insane to deal with bloatware. Its androids biggest flaw. And theaon reason I root.
Flash Jedi jelly. I promise you won't regret. ( you will lose WiFi calling tho)
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rooted and it rules
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Just wondering.....that is all. I don't have the knowledge or the "need to" to root my phone does everything I want it to, so I never rooted.
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Rooting is essential to both experience android and master it
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OK so I rooted all my previous phones with no issues, just wondering running stock this phone is pretty fast don't know how much "faster" it can get. I know all the features rooting can bring like removing annoying bloatware, carrier iq, build props etcc. What else could you do with these roms? With stock I already could do a lot of the stuff I couldn't do with previous phones running stock. I know overclocking, undervolting anything else I missed that these roms provide apart from asthetic looks?
I guess I just wanted the opinion from people rooted to see if you get that "night & day" difference effect that you get when you root
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If it wasn't for removing bloat and carrierIQ i would be satisfied with stock. BUT AOSP/AOKP is my main reason and 4.2. The TouchJizz ROMs aren't my thing overall. But i think stock out of the box is great, i have plenty of friends with the S3 that wont let me tough their phone cause they are so happy with it stock.
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There are way too many junkwares phone provider put on the stock TW. Even pure TW contains Samsung's junkwares. Rooting will allow you to remove or freeze those junkwares which makes the phone performs even better with better batt life. You can also install a firewall such as DroidWall to block internet access from apps. Block ads with AdAway. Block apps from autorun themselves when certain event occurs such as power is plugged in. There are endless helpful things you can do with a rooted phone.
I'd suggest reading more about rooting, flashing, custom recovery and see what you're missing without root.
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Yes rooting is really worth it.
People that I work with have note 2 and s3 and my s3 is much faster and snappier then all of theirs.
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mt3g said:
If it wasn't for removing bloat and carrierIQ i would be satisfied with stock. BUT AOSP/AOKP is my main reason and 4.2. The TouchJizz ROMs aren't my thing overall. But i think stock out of the box is great, i have plenty of friends with the S3 that wont let me tough their phone cause they are so happy with it stock.
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Yeah this is one of the few phones that don't come messed up from the box, I would say battery life could definitely improve on jb so I know rooting will help that a bit. Thanks for input
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There are way too many junkwares phone provider put on the stock TW. Even pure TW contains Samsung's junkwares. Rooting will allow you to remove or freeze those junkwares which makes the phone performs even better with better batt life. You can also install a firewall such as DroidWall to block internet access from apps. Block ads with AdAway. Block apps from autorun themselves when certain event occurs such as power is plugged in. There are endless helpful things you can do with a rooted phone.
I'd suggest reading more about rooting, flashing, custom recovery and see what you're missing without root.
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Yeah all those things you stated I already knew, I like the adaway stuff several other apps that can do that too. Also voodoo sound is nice. Voltage control all that.. I'm pretty careful and all but I guess I just don't want to deal with all the hassle. Backing up nv, roms, apps whole nine yards.
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My question is i read around forums people stating that triangle away can't take away the tripping counter when you flash a s3 that came with JB already installed out the box any truth?
Just would like to know since I have a long warranty on it just in case.
Also backing up your emei would insure you will get it back if something goes wrong? Because I saw in that forum it was a mixed bag some people could get it others couldn't and had their 4G missing too
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Yes............
Rooting IS worth it, next QUESTION!
Lol
And they have a thread on how to not trip the counter.
And as far as stock jb tripping the counter... haven't heard that but I honestly dont think it will unless you flash a new rom
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Counter thing is dumb in my opinion. I'm sure there is a work around, Odin back to ICS and then Odin JB then go from there maybe, idk.
Yes, banking up your imei is a full proof plan and use twrp instead of cwm!
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Oh okay one more thing backing up. Where you guys backup your roms internal or sd card Which one is more ideal? Just wondering since I never had phone with this much storage. I assume in touch recovery it let's you decide when you're backing up right?
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Ideal should be in sd card.
NOTE* always make a backup before you flash anything, I cant stress that enough because it will save your life*
Also do not mess with it while its in your card because it will not boot up. My suggestion is leave it as is
To be honest though either or, it would not be a problem... me, I have it in my ad card
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Ideal should be in sd card.
NOTE* always make a backup before you flash anything, I cant stress that enough because it will save your life*
To be honest though either or, it would not be a problem... me, I have it in my ad card
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Especially a backup of your imei... Can't stress that enough.. I learned that hard way and I thought my phone was completely screwed so i got two new gs3's not knowing it was such an easy fix even if you didn't back it up
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Ideal should be in sd card.
NOTE* always make a backup before you flash anything, I cant stress that enough because it will save your life*
Also do not mess with it while its in your card because it will not boot up. My suggestion is leave it as is
To be honest though either or, it would not be a problem... me, I have it in my ad card
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Thanks dude appreciated
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Rooting is definitely worth it. Probably the best things you can do with it is remove bloatware, install an Ad-Blocker, and control the CPU to increase battery life or performance. With the Triangle Away app, you can easily reset the Custom Binary counter for warranty exchanges as I have done a few times.
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Counter thing is dumb in my opinion. I'm sure there is a work around, Odin back to ICS and then Odin JB then go from there maybe, idk.
Yes, banking up your imei is a full proof plan and use twrp instead of cwm!
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The is an app called triangle away that resets the counter. If you don't know, don't offer useless advice.
Backing up your NV data is a "fool" not "full" proof plan indeed tho.
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Oh okay one more thing backing up. Where you guys backup your roms internal or sd card Which one is more ideal? Just wondering since I never had phone with this much storage. I assume in touch recovery it let's you decide when you're backing up right?
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When in recovery you can choose where to back up to. I would personally read thru the stickied threads and get some information that has been deemed infallible by the higher ups. Asking basic stuff on a thread sometimes leads idiots to respond like they know something. The info on the stickies is concrete and not opinion based or anything.
I have a Samsung Galaxy SIII from AT&T (d2att ), and I have it rooted, running task650's AOKP, and TWRP 2.4.1.0 for recovery. It works fantastic, and I love it I have, however, been trying everything I can think of to try and get ktoonsez's kernel to work on it, for the features that his kernel offers. I am having a funky issue, which according to task, kt, and a few others on the boards, is device-related. It seems that my phone, individually, is the problem. This leads me to my question.
How feasible is it to get AT&T (or Samsung?) to replace my phone, based on the fact that there is something different hardware-wise between mine and the vast majority of other peoples?
It seems that nearly everyone who runs this combination of task and ktoonsez has nothing but good things to say, and I have yet to see anyone gripe about the same issues that I have had, and not be able to fix them, usually by a simple full wipe. I have tried to do full wipes with and without letting Google initialize/restore my account. I have tried going back to stock everything, and trying again. I have made sure to turn off Performance Control, so there should be no conflict there. I have tried setting up my phone in its entirety, restoring information, restoring apps with TiBu, and then installing the kernel. I have tried with and without deleting mpdecision. I am following all of the directions posted per OP for both threads, and with the gapps posted by task himself. Nothing works, and I end up in a glitchy boot loop almost immediately after flashing the kernel, even if my phone was running buttery stable before the flash.
I have come up with a couple things to try tonight, but if they don't work, I would like to pursue getting a new phone to replace this one. Is that an option?
You will need to do a warranty replacement through Samsung unless you have device insurance through att. But then you will be paying the deductable on it.
There are quite a few reports of people in ktoonsez's thread that stated they had to return their device and get a new one for his kernel to work. Not sure you searched good enough. But either way, you are not the first to have a device that cant run his kernel. I can assure you of that.
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You will need to do a warranty replacement through Samsung unless you have device insurance through att. But then you will be paying the deductable on it.
There are quite a few reports of people in ktoonsez's thread that stated they had to return their device and get a new one for his kernel to work. Not sure you searched good enough. But either way, you are not the first to have a device that cant run his kernel. I can assure you of that.
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Thank you. I may not have read it well enough Do you mean the deductible through Samsung or AT&T? And ho do I approach the warranty? I know, at least where I work, we wouldn't honor a warranty on something that was used for purposes outside of it's intended use (i.e. rooting). Granted, I don't work for a phone company
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Thank you. I may not have read it well enough Do you mean the deductible through Samsung or AT&T? And ho do I approach the warranty? I know, at least where I work, we wouldn't honor a warranty on something that was used for purposes outside of it's intended use (i.e. rooting). Granted, I don't work for a phone company
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It would be the deductible through AT&T if you have device insurance. If going through Samsung, something would have to be a manufacturers defect in order for them to warrant a replacement device. I don't think either company will replace the device because you can't use a custom kernel. So you would need to get creative on your story before you go either route.
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It would be the deductible through AT&T if you have device insurance. If going through Samsung, something would have to be a manufacturers defect in order for them to warrant a replacement device. I don't think either company will replace the device because you can't use a custom kernel. So you would need to get creative on your story before you go either route.
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Time to get creative lol
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Settling In
I don't know if this could be a factor but, you will experience something commonly called a settling in period after installing a new kernel.
I have been through trying a couple other custom kernels for I747 plus all the progression of KT747 releases for TW ICS and TW JB since 9-23 release and have been through two phones due to warranty replacement. On both phones I have experienced significant settling in glitches for a while after flashing KT's or other kernels. These include crashing on boot, frequent screen freezes after boot, KTweaker settings not sticking, etc. These issues are far more extreme on first install of kernel than when flashing a new release to phone that already has kernel installed. First boot after first install can take about twenty problematic boot attempts to start behaving and it can take two or three days before kernel "settles in" and problems pretty much disappear.
In my feeble little mind, I envision the new kernel having to grow neurons into the guts of the phone hardware.
If you want to run this kernel and your phone will basically boot but, is all glitchy, I would say don't freak out. Have some patience, just keep rebooting, and give it time to settle in. For most the phone will straighten out in a few days.
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bsam55 said:
I don't know if this could be a factor but, you will experience something commonly called a settling in period after installing a new kernel.
I have been through trying a couple other custom kernels for I747 plus all the progression of KT747 releases for TW ICS and TW JB since 9-23 release and have been through two phones due to warranty replacement. On both phones I have experienced significant settling in glitches for a while after flashing KT's or other kernels. These include crashing on boot, frequent screen freezes after boot, KTweaker settings not sticking, etc. These issues are far more extreme on first install of kernel than when flashing a new release to phone that already has kernel installed. First boot after first install can take about twenty problematic boot attempts to start behaving and it can take two or three days before kernel "settles in" and problems pretty much disappear.
In my feeble little mind, I envision the new kernel having to grow neurons into the guts of the phone hardware.
If you want to run this kernel and your phone will basically boot but, is all glitchy, I would say don't freak out. Have some patience, just keep rebooting, and give it time to settle in. For most the phone will straighten out in a few days.
Hope this helps.
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I suppose that is possibly what's going on with mine, I'll give it a couple more tries
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Just an advice, make sure you restore everything to stock before you do
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Just an advice, make sure you restore everything to stock before you do
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I will be doing that In the meantime, any suggestions for how to explain my way into a warranty exchange? I thought about wiping everything, so it won't even boot, and saying that lol
Also, even if I flash back to stock, won't they be able to see that it had been flashed different before?
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drinfernoo said:
I will be doing that In the meantime, any suggestions for how to explain my way into a warranty exchange? I thought about wiping everything, so it won't even boot, and saying that lol
Also, even if I flash back to stock, won't they be able to see that it had been flashed different before?
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Just depends on how thorough the at&t rep is. You have to Odin back to stock, triangle away, unroot and factory reset for them not to know at all.
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drinfernoo said:
I will be doing that In the meantime, any suggestions for how to explain my way into a warranty exchange? I thought about wiping everything, so it won't even boot, and saying that lol
Also, even if I flash back to stock, won't they be able to see that it had been flashed different before?
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Do not intentionally brick your device. That could be just as bad as leaving your phone rooted when you take it in (depending if Samsung can see any part of the storage). As far as warranty exchange "excuse" that is on you to decide. Follow the post quoted below to help your chance at warranty exchange. This has been discussed quite a bit all over the place.
hednik said:
Just depends on how thorough the at&t rep is. You have to Odin back to stock, triangle away, unroot and factory reset for them not to know at all.
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You know, I've run tasks rom since it was still 4.1 and have always used the kernel provided in his rom. It runs great, and I wouldn't change it. My battery life and everything else is great. I can get 17 hrs with 3 hrs 34 mins screen time and have 20% battery left. I think trying to get a replacement device just to run a different kernel is absurd... just my .02 cents worth
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You know, I've run tasks rom since it was still 4.1 and have always used the kernel provided in his rom. It runs great, and I wouldn't change it. My battery life and everything else is great. I can get 17 hrs with 3 hrs 34 mins screen time and have 20% battery left. I think trying to get a replacement device just to run a different kernel is absurd... just my .02 cents worth
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I completely agree. I'm on tasks currently using his underwear kernel provided. I've also tried KT's kernel as well. Yes you can get more customization with KT's and his custom governor, but is it worth it to go through all the hassle to get a new device? I would say no. Like I said I've tried both kernels, I'm currently using tasks underwear kernel, I may try KT's again, may not. When I did before, I didn't notice a drastic difference between the two, esp not enough to warrant going through a device replacement.
Consider this. You are running tasks rom with absolutely no issues with the kernel he provides. Is that not good enough? I know it is for me. His rom is absolutely the most stable rom I've ever tried on any device. Remember it's just a phone. Just some food for thought.
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Probably right, but i don't always run task's ROM, either. My favorite ROM so far has actually been ParanoidKANGDroid, but I wanted 4.2.1, so I went to task. I'm actually running PACman right now, and for the time being, even his PC is broken
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No matter which rom you are running, it's crazy to exchange a device (and having to lie to do it) just to run a different kernel... think about it...
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G-Man. said:
No matter which rom you are running, it's crazy to exchange a device (and having to lie to do it) just to run a different kernel... think about it...
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Of course, but if it allows me more flexibilities and control over my phone and what it does, I'm all over that
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Bricking your phone would be the easiest way to get a new one and I've seen plenty of people accidentally bricking their i747 and getting a new one from Samsung. They won't even check if its rooted or not.
Check this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34556189
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liltitiz said:
Bricking your phone would be the easiest way to get a new one and I've seen plenty of people accidentally bricking their i747 and getting a new one from Samsung. They won't even check if its rooted or not.
Check this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34556189
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That's a douche bag move.... pain and simple.
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That's a douche bag move.... pain and simple.
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When the s3$ first come out, a lot of people were bricking them. Trying to root or installing an international ROM. I'm pretty sure Samsung staff was aware of that but they still gave free replacement. Some people even got a replacement from att or others carriers for free.
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If I do end up getting a replacement, can I take a nandroid, and restore it to the new phone?
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