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best way forward... new desire :)

OKies... bought a HD2 not long ago but found myself missing Android so (had a Hero b4 the HD2) much i bought a Desire on ebay
As far as i can tell its a standard T mobile uk phone... so i assume locked and branded to T mobile
I dont need it unlocking to other networks as im hapy with t mobile.. but would like to maybe upgrade to a new or modded rom...
Do i need to Root it b4 i can use the modded roms? i had a quick look at the bootloader page ( i think thats it) and it was showing 0.75
So im after the most painless way to get a good rom upgrade
new at all this so the easier and simpler the better.... flashing my phones scare the living crap outta me..!! lol
thanks for any help

Dont be scared its not bad at all!
I had a similar question 2 days ago and am now running froyo (thanks to my own help really though)
Here is my thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=748105

[Q] Are you Stock / CWM / Rooted / Custom Rom'd?

Hi All,
Had my HOX about a week. I have rooted my previous phones, but the current state of unlocking / rooting / CWM makes me a little nervous this time round.
Losing the ability to get OTA updates, along with the issues about getting root / installing CWM / custom roms and the number of bricked phones / issues still prevalent is giving me second thoughts.
I'm curious as to how many people think the same or how many have jumped all in!
Am I being a chicken and should I wait for the process of Unlocking/Rooting/CWM/Custom Roms to stabilize, or should I man up?
I love the XDA forums and the Rom developers, but don't want to risk my brand new HOX!

Im currently stock and waiting for s-off to be done without the need for htcdev.

agento said:
Hi All,
Had my HOX about a week. I have rooted my previous phones, but the current state of unlocking / rooting / CWM makes me a little nervous this time round.
Losing the ability to get OTA updates, along with the issues about getting root / installing CWM / custom roms and the number of bricked phones / issues still prevalent is giving me second thoughts.
I'm curious as to how many people think the same or how many have jumped all in!
Am I being a chicken and should I wait for the process of Unlocking/Rooting/CWM/Custom Roms to stabilize, or should I man up?
I love the XDA forums and the Rom developers, but don't want to risk my brand new HOX!
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If YOU are confident then you unlock the bootloader and start tweaking your device. I have rooted and unlocked the device now trying out different ROM's. I for one is flash junk. So if you think you can void your warranty then go ahead have fun. Or wait until S-OFF comes. I suspect it's gonna be sooner than we think because last I heard someone is already working on it.

Staying Stock for now

Im unlooked rooted have custom rom plus touch recovery. Did everything in under half an hour. Everything works like with other phones (as far as the mass of users are concerned) but yeah you can flash everything backup and restore if anything goes wrong.. There are pleanty of instructions for windows or mac on this forum also ways for unbricking. I was worried that it was too early for this stuff yet too but everything is fine.
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agento said:
Hi All,
Had my HOX about a week. I have rooted my previous phones, but the current state of unlocking / rooting / CWM makes me a little nervous this time round.
Losing the ability to get OTA updates, along with the issues about getting root / installing CWM / custom roms and the number of bricked phones / issues still prevalent is giving me second thoughts.
I'm curious as to how many people think the same or how many have jumped all in!
Am I being a chicken and should I wait for the process of Unlocking/Rooting/CWM/Custom Roms to stabilize, or should I man up?
I love the XDA forums and the Rom developers, but don't want to risk my brand new HOX!
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I'm totally with you on that. I'm hanging fire to check out the OTA and see if it brings better stability, battery etc. I will root eventually, especially if a really sound vanilla ROM comes along and I don't have to lose the camera features.
Of HOX users in my Google+ circles, I think about 50% have rooted, the remainder sticking with stock for now...

I rooted and went custom Rom mainly because I'm a lefty and reaching to the top right corner for settings and/or menu was a pain in the bum.
At least that's how I'm justifying it to my girlfriend
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Stock, waiting for S-OFF and also want the banding issues on my screen fixed. Thus I don't want to void my warranty and need 1.28...

Normally root on day one bit still on stock at the mo
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i was the biggest flashaholic when i had my galaxy s2..it was so easy to root as well. just flash the cf-root kernel through odin and voila that was it job done..here is my god so more complicated...so for now staying stock and enjoying sense..i just disable loads of crapware and that is it just enjoy my phone as stock...but i do miss flashing and trying different roms so i might wait for a few more weeks till i do that....wish we can get a AOKP rom though

NoobTerminator said:
i was the biggest flashaholic when i had my galaxy s2..it was so easy to root as well. just flash the cf-root kernel through odin and voila that was it job done..here is my god so more complicated...so for now staying stock and enjoying sense..i just disable loads of crapware and that is it just enjoy my phone as stock...but i do miss flashing and trying different roms so i might wait for a few more weeks till i do that....wish we can get a AOKP rom though
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lol you should've seen the crap we went thorugh with the desire z / G2 with the gold cards and stuff lol.
as for me, I want to wait for the OTA patch

gdelrosario said:
lol you should've seen the crap we went thorugh with the desire z / G2 with the gold cards and stuff lol.
as for me, I want to wait for the OTA patch
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yeah i heard and read that the next OTA patch will help resolve some of the issues that we are facing...still like this phone though but i do not understand why they do not just release phones with an unlocked bootloader like sammy did with the s2

Guys its really not hard at all to unlock bootloader flash recovery and root this phone.
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

I will wait for a more reliable rooting and uprooting method before switching.
My biggest reasons for rooting my last two phones was:
Internal space,
Bloatware,
Latest software,
However on this device, I have plenty of space, ability to disable bloatware and up-to-date with the latest software.

NoobTerminator said:
i was the biggest flashaholic when i had my galaxy s2..it was so easy to root as well. just flash the cf-root kernel through odin and voila that was it job done..here is my god so more complicated...so for now staying stock and enjoying sense..i just disable loads of crapware and that is it just enjoy my phone as stock...but i do miss flashing and trying different roms so i might wait for a few more weeks till i do that....wish we can get a AOKP rom though
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What are you disabling and how ?
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I'm just waiting for my HOX to get it's scratched screen replaced and a stable, official CM9. For now I'm leaving it completely stock unrooted.

combat goofwing said:
Way are you disabling and how ?
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Setting apps and select what you want to disable
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NoobTerminator said:
Setting apps and select what you want to disable
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I know with apps what I want running etc but what sort of background services is it ok to disable or is it best not to tinker
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combat goofwing said:
I know with apps what I want running etc but what sort of background services is it ok to disable or is it best not to tinker
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i basically disabled all 3 apps. do not use them so i just disabled them. then google books i do not use and the same with google movies. everything else i left it as it is
so i would presume it would be the same with t-mobile apps mate
regarding background services i would not tinker with if i was you..only disable google apps like google plus or google messenger if you do not use them and the same goes for google books and movies if you do not use that either....anything else just leave it as it is...and disable any tmobile crap

Looks like I'm in the majority, then.
Just waiting (fingers crossed) for S-Off or some other exploit from the Revolutionary team to get things going.

Why install ROM over just Rooting ?

Please help explain to my Brother who just got a GSM Nexus from the Play/Market store, what benefits there are to installing a good stable ROM over just Rooting the phone ? My bro is super smart, he's a programmer, and knows a ton about technology, etc..He just mentioned he's happy Rooted and that's it.
I have the Verizon Nexus, and rooted and ROM'd the first day I bought it, and love trying out different ROM's. But what is a good reason to install a nice ROM, instead of just using the stock Nexus that is Rooted ? How would you explain that to someone new to this phone ? And why do it ?

because when you root your phone, it does a lot of alterations and depending on what you do with root access (such as... put something in /system/ etc etc) there are a lot of variables. This may affect future OTAs, and if you do accept them and you did those altercations then your phone will not brick but there will be problems booting up/applying it etc etc.
So in the end, you might as well take things into your own hand and flash. If you're going to root, do it the WHOLE way. Not go half in, and half out. That's just my opinion.
And sigh, another thread about what ROM to choose from. Look at the dev section and look at all the ROMs and depending on the comments + features (OP post) have to offer. Select your choice there. The most popular combo is AOKP with Franco Kernel.
And if someone is new, I'd leave their phone stock. Otherwise, you'll be holding their hands and asking you questions on how to do things. A rooted phone is that person's responsibility.

Zorachus said:
Please help explain to my Brother who just got a GSM Nexus from the Play/Market store, what benefits there are to installing a good stable ROM over just Rooting the phone ? My bro is super smart, he's a programmer, and knows a ton about technology, etc..He just mentioned he's happy Rooted and that's it.
I have the Verizon Nexus, and rooted and ROM'd the first day I bought it, and love trying out different ROM's. But what is a good reason to install a nice ROM, instead of just using the stock Nexus that is Rooted ? How would you explain that to someone new to this phone ? And why do it ?
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Are you trying to insist your brother flash? Maybe he is quite content with stock and knows it is stable and root just gives the extra privileges he wants. I am running stock and almost pure kernel rooted and very happy.
let it be.

Zorachus said:
Please help explain to my Brother who just got a GSM Nexus from the Play/Market store, what benefits there are to installing a good stable ROM over just Rooting the phone ? My bro is super smart, he's a programmer, and knows a ton about technology, etc..He just mentioned he's happy Rooted and that's it.
I have the Verizon Nexus, and rooted and ROM'd the first day I bought it, and love trying out different ROM's. But what is a good reason to install a nice ROM, instead of just using the stock Nexus that is Rooted ? How would you explain that to someone new to this phone ? And why do it ?
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If he doesn't see the need for it, then he shouldn't put a ROM on the phone. Don't push him to do it. He's a smart guy, let him make his own decisions. The worst thing you can do is force him to use a custom ROM when he doesn't want to, and have him regret it.

Zorachus said:
Please help explain to my Brother who just got a GSM Nexus from the Play/Market store, what benefits there are to installing a good stable ROM over just Rooting the phone ? My bro is super smart, he's a programmer, and knows a ton about technology, etc..He just mentioned he's happy Rooted and that's it.
I have the Verizon Nexus, and rooted and ROM'd the first day I bought it, and love trying out different ROM's. But what is a good reason to install a nice ROM, instead of just using the stock Nexus that is Rooted ? How would you explain that to someone new to this phone ? And why do it ?
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Im too a software developer and a electronics engineer, and i was a stock lover until i tried AOKP Milestone, i would never go back to stock, the feature rich/stabilty/power saving/customization of this rom its just godly.. He wont ever know what are the ICS's real calabilities until he try out whats there.. He can always go back to pure stock.. So i dont see the point on non flashing and testing roms..
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Because he'll be able to sit at the cool kids table at lunch.
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phaze one said:
Because he'll be able to sit at the cool kids table at lunch.
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He could always stay stock and sit at the "my phone always works" table .

Such a simple question. Because it adds tons of features and functions. You can't really make a judgement saying you're fine stock if you don't know the other side of the question what the other roms offer. Only when you try both can you say yes or no you're happy with or without stock.
My personal opinion, the roms on this phone offer god like amount of features worth using.

Should i buy ?

I am going to buy this phone. But is this a good phone ? How is the battery ? And i read on the net that the bootloader is locked so can we install custom roms root it ? how ? and the battery is not removable so if i hang the phone sometimes so how reboot if the keys doesnt work because battery is unremovable ?
Thanks (i am a noob )

Good phone, battery life is not bad, bootloader is locked but you can unlock it from HTCdev site but it may void your warranty and no S-OFF for now, how to root it, search and read and find out and on how to reboot just use the powerbutton at the top to reboot by long pressing it.
If you are going to buy this phone make your research. Do not wait for other people to do the work for you. There is a review thread exactly in the same place were you posted this thread, there is a battery stats thread were people post the battery life and talk about it so you could of jumped in there to find out more about battery. There is a thread by Hamdir regarding what to look out when going and buying your phone and checking what issues to have a look at when inspecting the phone before you buy it...Plus so many reviews over youtube you could look for. I might sound harsh but everyday it is the same freaking question with someone opening a thread and it ends up getting closed anyway. So do your research before buying something. Simple as that.
Review Thread
anuraagkochar said:
I am going to buy this phone. But is this a good phone ? How is the battery ? And i read on the net that the bootloader is locked so can we install custom roms root it ? how ? and the battery is not removable so if i hang the phone sometimes so how reboot if the keys doesnt work because battery is unremovable ?
Thanks (i am a noob )
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anuraagkochar said:
I am going to buy this phone. But is this a good phone ? How is the battery ? And i read on the net that the bootloader is locked so can we install custom roms root it ? how ? and the battery is not removable so if i hang the phone sometimes so how reboot if the keys doesnt work because battery is unremovable ?
Thanks (i am a noob )
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The version of the one x that is sold in the USA is coming to Europe so you might want to wait.
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/blog/1392277/htc_one_xl_arriving_in_europe_in_june.html

anuraagkochar said:
I am going to buy this phone. But is this a good phone ? How is the battery ? And i read on the net that the bootloader is locked so can we install custom roms root it ? how ? and the battery is not removable so if i hang the phone sometimes so how reboot if the keys doesnt work because battery is unremovable ?
Thanks (i am a noob )
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Don't buy it. I regret doing this mistake. I will NEVER buy any HTC phone again. I had Desire, Desire Z and now One X. They all were plagued by problems. One X has so many problems with the software and with hardware, it's not worth to buy it. I will try to bring it back and buy Galaxy S3. Samsung never failed me

Buy it. It's a fantastic phone.

Niiceg said:
Don't buy it. I regret doing this mistake. I will NEVER buy any HTC phone again. I had Desire, Desire Z and now One X. They all were plagued by problems. One X has so many problems with the software and with hardware, it's not worth to buy it. I will try to bring it back and buy Galaxy S3. Samsung never failed me
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Don't agree with this at all, the phone had some minor bugs when it was first released but they all seem to be fixed now....at least they are for me anyway!
The only thing I don't like is the way it handles multi tasking, not the GUI implemention which is cool and works better than most reviews make out, but the way it kills apps to quickly. I'm sure we'll be able to sort this out with a custom rom later on.
All in all its a great phone with excellent battery life, so long as you dont play too many games

anuraagkochar said:
I am going to buy this phone. But is this a good phone ? How is the battery ? And i read on the net that the bootloader is locked so can we install custom roms root it ? how ? and the battery is not removable so if i hang the phone sometimes so how reboot if the keys doesnt work because battery is unremovable ?
Thanks (i am a noob )
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It's a excellent gadget
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

anuraagkochar said:
I am going to buy this phone. But is this a good phone ? How is the battery ? And i read on the net that the bootloader is locked so can we install custom roms root it ? how ? and the battery is not removable so if i hang the phone sometimes so how reboot if the keys doesnt work because battery is unremovable ?
Thanks (i am a noob )
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How many more threads are we going to get asking this
I think you shouldnt buy it
just give me the money instead

anuraagkochar said:
I am going to buy this phone. But is this a good phone ? How is the battery ? And i read on the net that the bootloader is locked so can we install custom roms root it ? how ? and the battery is not removable so if i hang the phone sometimes so how reboot if the keys doesnt work because battery is unremovable ?
Thanks (i am a noob )
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I'm just wondering how come I didn't have all these thoughts? goodphone, battery, bootloader, screen, etc etc. I just loved the phone the moment I saw it.. it's like love at first sight.. probably u'l know if that's this is the one when you actually hold it.. more like a girl, you know if she's the one for u or not
just my 2 cents bro.. honest opinion.. u won't regret it. yes, sometimes it does make u think wuts wrong, but never it will let u down thinkin it's a bad investment.
hope it helps

Go for it. It's working perfect for one month and I didn't even apply any of three released software updates for not to miss possible s-off exploits.
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Removed my post.

well why do you think i am starting to get annoyed with the same thing everyday..read my post above. it says it all on how i feel about people opening threads like this. i do not blame the OP he just wants to know opinions but on the other hand he can get of his lazy behind and stop being spoonfed like a baby and do proper research.
Dasco68 said:
How many more threads are we going to get asking this
I think you shouldnt buy it
just give me the money instead
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.. and his signature says,
Sent from my revolutionary GALAXY S3 running triple boot with Jelly Bean (android 5.0 ), CM9 and Miui v4

ive got a one x, and i feel absolutely comfortable in telling you to forget the one x, and get the s3, especially as its out in a few days
im giving mine to the missus and getting a s3, on june the 7th when my other 3 contract is up
at best you will have to send your one x back for a swap, at worst you will send it back 4,5,6 times to find a perfect unit

gouldy26 said:
ive got a one x, and i feel absolutely comfortable in telling you to forget the one x, and get the s3, especially as its out in a few days
im giving mine to the missus and getting a s3, on june the 7th when my other 3 contract is up
at best you will have to send your one x back for a swap, at worst you will send it back 4,5,6 times to find a perfect unit
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Didn't happen to me. Great device for me. Got one and didn't need to do swaps or replacements.

[Q] To root or not to root that is the Question

I am seriously agonizing over whether or not to root my HOX, I have had a desire and rooted and flashed it to within an inch of its life and never had an issue, and its still going strong and running Shaky153's new ICS Sense rom.
My only concern is that I am unsure whether the HOX is as technically or physically robust as the Desire, and I keep getting the impression that it could breakdown at anytime, I'm not too bothered about physical damage as the phone is insured, but if it has to be returned to HTC I'm F*!£^%.
Please someone help me make this decision, should I root, if so why?
If not why?

Its totally up to you mate, but I will say that I had my HOX rooted a couple hours after purchasing it! And I love it!!

your decision mate...or wait for S-OFF..if you have a solid handset and no defects or issues with software then i would unlock it as by rooting this bad boy is the whole point of getting this phone. just do not forget about the bad stuff like voiding warranty though there is a couple of threads regarding this issue in the general section have a read through before unlocking...
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I am seriously agonizing over whether or not to root my HOX, I have had a desire and rooted and flashed it to within an inch of its life and never had an issue, and its still going strong and running Shaky153's new ICS Sense rom.
My only concern is that I am unsure whether the HOX is as technically or physically robust as the Desire, and I keep getting the impression that it could breakdown at anytime, I'm not too bothered about physical damage as the phone is insured, but if it has to be returned to HTC I'm F*!£^%.
Please someone help me make this decision, should I root, if so why?
If not why?
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I would wait for s-off. I'm not going to fiddle with mine until that is achieved. In the meantime, my desire will handle my flash addiction .

Jonnibravo said:
If not why?
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You do know that it voids warranty, right ??
If you just got it, then wait at least a week, test everything properly and make sure there aren't any hardware faults/manufacturing defects.

I have always rooted my devices after few hours of purchases. Except this one x. I actually cant wait to try custom roms and use root apps like i always do but sense 4 is beautiful and enough to keep me away from modifying it. So i think, i can wait for s-off. Plus, hearing the defects here and there, it would actually worth it to wait. I only have this device for 5 days so nothing to be rushed.
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I would
It's totally up to you but I would root just for some root apps (completely remove system apps, etc.). You should always be able to unroot.

cronus101 said:
will handle my flash addiction .
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I'm starting to have withdrawals.....lol. My head is just going... I need to flash, I need to flash, and it's really getting hard not to be tempted and wait for S-OFF.

I wasn't planning to root but I'm tempted to now just for the sake of 2 things, the 3dot menu remover patch and the font changer.
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iximages said:
Its totally up to you mate, but I will say that I had my HOX rooted a couple hours after purchasing it! And I love it!!
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hahaha. same here. I'm still new to the flashing rom even using android phones (Coming from iOS) and yet i took the risk of rooting it and applying custom roms. ARHD is the best!!!