Please help explain to my Brother who just got a GSM Nexus from the Play/Market store, what benefits there are to installing a good stable ROM over just Rooting the phone ? My bro is super smart, he's a programmer, and knows a ton about technology, etc..He just mentioned he's happy Rooted and that's it.
I have the Verizon Nexus, and rooted and ROM'd the first day I bought it, and love trying out different ROM's. But what is a good reason to install a nice ROM, instead of just using the stock Nexus that is Rooted ? How would you explain that to someone new to this phone ? And why do it ?
because when you root your phone, it does a lot of alterations and depending on what you do with root access (such as... put something in /system/ etc etc) there are a lot of variables. This may affect future OTAs, and if you do accept them and you did those altercations then your phone will not brick but there will be problems booting up/applying it etc etc.
So in the end, you might as well take things into your own hand and flash. If you're going to root, do it the WHOLE way. Not go half in, and half out. That's just my opinion.
And sigh, another thread about what ROM to choose from. Look at the dev section and look at all the ROMs and depending on the comments + features (OP post) have to offer. Select your choice there. The most popular combo is AOKP with Franco Kernel.
And if someone is new, I'd leave their phone stock. Otherwise, you'll be holding their hands and asking you questions on how to do things. A rooted phone is that person's responsibility.
Zorachus said:
Please help explain to my Brother who just got a GSM Nexus from the Play/Market store, what benefits there are to installing a good stable ROM over just Rooting the phone ? My bro is super smart, he's a programmer, and knows a ton about technology, etc..He just mentioned he's happy Rooted and that's it.
I have the Verizon Nexus, and rooted and ROM'd the first day I bought it, and love trying out different ROM's. But what is a good reason to install a nice ROM, instead of just using the stock Nexus that is Rooted ? How would you explain that to someone new to this phone ? And why do it ?
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Are you trying to insist your brother flash? Maybe he is quite content with stock and knows it is stable and root just gives the extra privileges he wants. I am running stock and almost pure kernel rooted and very happy.
let it be.
Zorachus said:
Please help explain to my Brother who just got a GSM Nexus from the Play/Market store, what benefits there are to installing a good stable ROM over just Rooting the phone ? My bro is super smart, he's a programmer, and knows a ton about technology, etc..He just mentioned he's happy Rooted and that's it.
I have the Verizon Nexus, and rooted and ROM'd the first day I bought it, and love trying out different ROM's. But what is a good reason to install a nice ROM, instead of just using the stock Nexus that is Rooted ? How would you explain that to someone new to this phone ? And why do it ?
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If he doesn't see the need for it, then he shouldn't put a ROM on the phone. Don't push him to do it. He's a smart guy, let him make his own decisions. The worst thing you can do is force him to use a custom ROM when he doesn't want to, and have him regret it.
Zorachus said:
Please help explain to my Brother who just got a GSM Nexus from the Play/Market store, what benefits there are to installing a good stable ROM over just Rooting the phone ? My bro is super smart, he's a programmer, and knows a ton about technology, etc..He just mentioned he's happy Rooted and that's it.
I have the Verizon Nexus, and rooted and ROM'd the first day I bought it, and love trying out different ROM's. But what is a good reason to install a nice ROM, instead of just using the stock Nexus that is Rooted ? How would you explain that to someone new to this phone ? And why do it ?
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Im too a software developer and a electronics engineer, and i was a stock lover until i tried AOKP Milestone, i would never go back to stock, the feature rich/stabilty/power saving/customization of this rom its just godly.. He wont ever know what are the ICS's real calabilities until he try out whats there.. He can always go back to pure stock.. So i dont see the point on non flashing and testing roms..
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Because he'll be able to sit at the cool kids table at lunch.
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Because he'll be able to sit at the cool kids table at lunch.
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He could always stay stock and sit at the "my phone always works" table .
Such a simple question. Because it adds tons of features and functions. You can't really make a judgement saying you're fine stock if you don't know the other side of the question what the other roms offer. Only when you try both can you say yes or no you're happy with or without stock.
My personal opinion, the roms on this phone offer god like amount of features worth using.
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Coming from the Vibrant and G2X, I use to flash roms about once or twice, maybe more, a day! With this phone, I just think it's perfect the way it is. I want to run the OS the way Google intended without much intervention. I tried the HD rom last night and it looked and felt the same as the stock rom, so I quickly switched back. No offense to Mike, but if I'm gonna have something so similar to stock, might as well have stock with official support.
Anyone doing the same?
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i refuse to stick with stock anything regardless of how 'good' it may be. even with this Nexus, i didn't like stock.
i want to be able to change things however i want them, including overclock/undervolt/etc...
the last time i stuck with 'stock' was probably when i had the original RAZR back in the day(that and the Rezound as i believe they're still waiting on root for that thing)
you'd be surprised what kind of battery life you get with a custom rom and kernel. it's a significant upgrade. that fact alone justifies going custom
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I'm going to wait until the custom roms and kernels establish themselves before I go with a non-stock build. I will leave stock sooner or later though for sure.
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I'm also going to be ruining rooted in stock room.
It is been a very long time since I don't see a clean stable room. Number one priority today is to support as many devices as possible, quality and stability comes last. Sad.
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Coming from the Vibrant and G2X, I use to flash roms about once or twice, maybe more, a day! With this phone, I just think it's perfect the way it is. I want to run the OS the way Google intended without much intervention. I tried the HD rom last night and it looked and felt the same as the stock rom, so I quickly switched back. No offense to Mike, but if I'm gonna have something so similar to stock, might as well have stock with official support.
Anyone doing the same?
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How could u go from flashing multi roms a day then out of all the phones u choose not do it with the nexus that's just unheard of
I used to flash a lot of roms on my old phone, trying to stick to stock on this one. I keep getting tempted though.. especially as I haven't had the 4.0.2 update yet. It's only a minor update but just the fact that I don't have it yet keeps bugging me and making me want to root
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How could u go from flashing multi roms a day then out of all the phones u choose not do it with the nexus that's just unheard of
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Nope, not unheard of at all. I have the same position.
This is the first phone I like 100% stock. I will probably get a custom kernel / cm9 when it comes out.
Im sticking to stock rom till my store warrenty is up. Just wanna make sure that the phone works the way its meant to before I start messing with it.
I came from the galaxy s captivate. I used to flash a lot but with the galaxy nexus, I didn't even unlock the boot loaders. I will just stay stock forever!
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Waiting for things to get a bit better understood/stable before doing ROMs, but definitely will at some point for better battery life, tether etc...
I guess I'm waiting for Google to put out a very stable build that developers can go from. Google is very quick with updates so this should happen soon.
My previous flashing was done to make up for staggering shortcomings with the device and manufacturers that dragged their feet with updates. I don't think this will be, and hasn't been, the case with the Nexus.
4.0.3 is a good start for a base with roms but there are still some issues that I want officially resolved by Google before I start flashing a bunch of stuff from independent developers.
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Mine's still stock, I'm just enjoying ICS as it is for the moment.
When I do decide to root and flash ROMs/kernal, I'm just glad that the partitions aren't like the partitions on the GSII, the recovery and kernal on the same partition had me spinning for a while on my Sprint GSII.
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I used to flash a lot of roms on my old phone, trying to stick to stock on this one. I keep getting tempted though.. especially as I haven't had the 4.0.2 update yet. It's only a minor update but just the fact that I don't have it yet keeps bugging me and making me want to root
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I believe if you go Settings->About Phone->System Update, you can hit the button that says check for update and it will ping the server and ask if an update is available. You can do that if you want 4.0.2 which honestly why wouldn't you, it's just a bug fixer.
Like many others, I've rooted every other Android phone I've owned, usually within the day of purchasing it. However, in this case I don't feel a need. Maybe once a fully stable CM9 build is available I'll bother, but for now it's not worth my time and effort.
I will at least root and use wireless tether for now.
I am keeping mine stock for a few more weeks until the rooms start getting stable. I find that known issues get fixed in rooms much quicker than waiting for Samsung to address them.
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stock for now. the only reason for me to root is for wireless tether, but i dont need that right now.
I can't live without the ad blocking host file
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Hey all, first off, please don't flame. I am totally unfamiliar with Samsung. I just got my mom a gnex for mothers day and am going to root it but I keep seeing all these thread posts saying Google wallet is broken scattered through the ROM threads. I don't know if I'm even gonna put a custom rom on her phone, I just want root for maintenance. And I really don't have time to seriously study tons of threads. If anyone could advise about
A( what is breaking wallet
B( if I unlock bootloader and put on custom recovery, do I need to restore to factory recovery to flash radio updates ?
Ç( if there is a ROM that is pretty stock but more importantly stable, it'd be super appreciated to hear about it.
I run AOKP on me Evo 4g, but the random reboots are quite frequent. Is it more stable here?
By the way, it's a sprint galaxy nexus. Thanks much for any pointers.
Looking for good kernel for battery more than performance. Also, it seems to me on Sammy, you can't flash radio updates on custom kernel or custom recovery. Am I reading wrong?
Much thank to any who take time to respond. Thanks.
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Don't root and ROM your mother's Galaxy Nexus.
Jesus people. Leave it stock. Don't need to do maintenance, don't need to do anything. Leave it stock and you'll save yourself and her all kinds of trouble.
Point taken, but the thing is she's been dealing with a Samsung moment for >2yrs . The thing won't even hardly make phone calls anymore, takes about 45sec for SMS to open etc. She's always asking me if it can be fixed (cuz she knows I spend 24-7 on my Evo and xda). I always tell her I'd have to root it to really try to do anything (wipe caches, etc).. but i got her a gnex figuring if there's issues, I can fix for her easily (also got it for her cuz I figured if development on Evo LTE goes south, I'll trade phones with her.
Anyhow, was hoping for clarification about do I have to have stock recovery and ROM to update radios etc. On HTC Evo you don't, but it seems like I've seen talk of that here.
Thanks anyone.
Edit: and martonikaj, I'll keep your info in mind.
Just trying to figure where the partition checks are with Sammy. I thought I read that if your kernel is custom, you can't flash updated radios.
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scottspa74 said:
Edit: and martonikaj, I'll keep your info in mind.
Just trying to figure where the partition checks are with Sammy. I thought I read that if your kernel is custom, you can't flash updated radios.
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I understand her frustration with her current device and your willingness to help, but you need to keep her device stock. You don't need to flash new radios to the device. Just leave it stock and you'll both be better off in the long run. The cons vastly outweigh the pros when considering rooting/ROMing a device of a completely novice/uninformed user that doesn't need any extra issues.
Just FYI, there is no check on the Nexus. You can be running whatever kernel and ROM you want and flash radios if your bootloader is unlocked. But again, this will never be necessary, the phone will work just fine on stock radios.
I super appreciate your input. You have answered questions I have. I am one of those who deeply feel that if your Android is not rooted, then you should buy a non Android device. It's Only yours if you control its dalvik and can wipe caches
Need recovery for that.
I'm not at all arguing with your point. And I appreciate the responses (but without #, it's only good for throwaway).
Thank you.
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I super appreciate your input. You have answered questions I have. I am one of those who deeply feel that if your Android is not rooted, then you should buy a non Android device. It's Only yours if you control its dalvik and can wipe caches
Need recovery for that.
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You're welcome.
I'll agree on your point if your mom wants to read up on what root is, follow an XDA guide, learn how to use command prompt and Fastboot, and root her own device.
Until then, leave it stock.
Should have gotten her an IPhone lol.. I agree with you that every android should be rooted, but Moms don't need root they need something that just works . If a person is willing to do the research and learning about root themselves I always recommend android, if not stock or IPhone less headache for me
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Should have gotten her an IPhone lol.. I agree with you that every android should be rooted, but Moms don't need root they need something that just works . If a person is willing to do the research and learning about root themselves I always recommend android, if not stock or IPhone less headache for me
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The phone its just perfect as is it.. Id root her phone just to put adfree on it
The phone is not Samsung, i mean doesn't have touchwiz on it.. Its pure google
And. Forget about iphone
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msedek said:
The phone its just perfect as is it.. Id root her phone just to put adfree on it
The phone is not Samsung, i mean doesn't have touchwiz on it.. Its pure google
And. Forget about iphone
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Exactly. Google will only mass release versions that are finished and user friendly. Don't root it, it won't make her experience any better.
I've rooted devices for a few not-quite-as-technically-savvy-as-me friends in the past, and I've always regretted it - as have they. You shouldn't own a rooted device unless you rooted it yourself and know how to operate it. Otherwise, it's just asking for problems and complications. I got so sick of the calls from friends in other countries, "Hey, you rooted my phone and now I can't install an update that my carrier is pushing. Fix it!" Or if it's not a cry for help, I'd catch blame for any little issue that randomly occurred on the device. "My phone just randomly rebooted itself, this is obviously because you broke it when you rooted it."
I can only imagine how much worse it would be with a mother.
If you absolutely need the ability to wipe cache and dalvik (not really an issue unless your flashing ROMs, which your mother won't be, but whatever), you can always do it through fastboot.
Again, what martonikaj said:
martonikaj said:
Don't root and ROM your mother's Galaxy Nexus.
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ello guys.
going from my 2 year old htc desire to this....
so...what are the first things to do with this galaxy nexus?
Vital apps needed?
specific things to do in the settings to make it run better?
it would be nice to make a guide to follow.
first thing ive done so far is buy a TPU S line case, and Expertshield screen protector.
If the battery life is rubbish i'll have to get the extension pack....but hardly anyone in the UK seems to sell them...lots of korea sales for genuine ones on ebay.
would a non-genuine thing still be as good?
heard of this dodgy issue with a 'yellowy' tint screen - what to do there? have to root the phone?
etc.etc...
Fast boot OEM unlock
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Unlock the phone a root it first because unlocking it will wipe the phone clean of EVERYTHING. So get that done first and the rest is up to you stay stock or flash a rom.
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Here are my favorite apps on my Galaxy Nexus
-Chrome Beta
-Boid (Twitter)
-Tasks (Google Tasks)
-Weather Flow
-Intsagram
-Wolfram Alpha
-Icy Time (Timer and Stopwatch)
-Wallbase (Wallpapers)
Now that you have Android 4.0 you'll most likely fall in love with the Holo design guidelines. A list of some of the apps that use these guidelines can be found here and some good looking apps in general can here.
If you plan on rooting your phone or think you might want to in the future Unlock the bootloader, if you don't you will regret it, trust me. As for the battery life, I can get through the whole day with no problems while others complain that the battery life is bad, I suggest that you use the phone for a week before you get an extended battery.
There's a forum about the yellow screen issue here if you experience this at all then send it back as soon as possible despite the desire to play with your brand new toy.
If you have more questions just ask.
Sign for it
Take it out the box
Charge it
Press power
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If you like miui and don't want to root. Miui launcher is now available as an apk. That's one of the first things I installed when I got mine. The stock launcher is pretty good too.
Mi Launcher
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623026
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try ur phone with everything stock for a few days, see if everything works, no reboots, overheating etc etc (might want to check if u got an OTA update though, coz there's a big difference for example between 4.0.1 and 4.0.4 in terms of stability)... if u're satisfied with stock , there is no need to root then , if u want to play around a lil u'll figure what to do urself.
p.s. i also owned a desire, but went through some devices in the middle before the gnex, nways, the desire can't be even mentioned in the same sentence with what u're getting now. welcome aboard
First things to do:
1) Unlock your bootloader, even if you never plan on rooting or flashing a custom ROM. Do this even before booting Android for the first time.
2) Check to see if you are running yakju or takju. If you are running a build other than those two (for GSM devices), flash one of them (by following the link in my signature). Run one of those two builds for a while, so that you get a feel for what a stock ROM is.
3) Everything else.
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Keep it stock for at least a week, get to know the phone. Saves having to post about problems you're having on a custom rom just to find out its not the roms fault. This will also allow you to give real feedback when comparing roms as a opposed to these douches who flashed on day one n insist that rom x is better than stock
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i will definitely run stock for a few weeks and get used to it all.
however i am one to fiddle, but im totally new to this phone world in terms of rooting, custom ROMS etc, never bothered before.
put it this way though......i dont own any apple products
can anyone point me to the best guide for rooting, and installing custom Roms?
also can anyone link me to a list of custom roms for the gnex, that are either finished or in development?
im just asking for the links because im very sure the question 'how do you root' has been asked a hundred times - i could google it - but i presume you guys will immediately know a link to the best and safest guide.
having a read through, it seems people have already tweaked the gnex for better things - better kernels? to get better battery life? etc.etc...
is that part of the firmware? is that what you get with custom roms?
i need to understand the basics first.
(im buying the phone sim free unlocked)
Everything you need is in the q&a and development sub forums where you found this one
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schueyisking said:
i will definitely run stock for a few weeks and get used to it all.
however i am one to fiddle, but im totally new to this phone world in terms of rooting, custom ROMS etc, never bothered before.
put it this way though......i dont own any apple products
can anyone point me to the best guide for rooting, and installing custom Roms?
also can anyone link me to a list of custom roms for the gnex, that are either finished or in development?
im just asking for the links because im very sure the question 'how do you root' has been asked a hundred times - i could google it - but i presume you guys will immediately know a link to the best and safest guide.
having a read through, it seems people have already tweaked the gnex for better things - better kernels? to get better battery life? etc.etc...
is that part of the firmware? is that what you get with custom roms?
i need to understand the basics first.
(im buying the phone sim free unlocked)
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HERE you go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23229558
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doesnt rooting or installing a new kernel void the warranty?
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doesnt rooting or installing a new kernel void the warranty?
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You can always flash back to stock.
No warranty problems.
Backup your /efs partition... =o)
a week of stock? i don't last more than 3 hours, and that's if i'm trying to really be patient. within an hour of getting mine i had flashed the radios, bootloader, rom, and the kernel.
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a week of stock? i don't last more than 3 hours, and that's if i'm trying to really be patient. within an hour of getting mine i had flashed the radios, bootloader, rom, and the kernel.
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How do you even know what stock ICS is if you only use it for 3 hours?
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I just got my GN directly from Google and didn't do any unlocking of any sort. Just turned it on and added some apps I plan on using. Changed my homescreen and other screens/settings to fit my personal use and etc.
The phone is amazing without the need of unlocking.
Not really sure... the phone is already unlocked -.- (SIM wise)
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The phone is amazing without the need of unlocking.
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Do you understand what unlocking means? We are talking about unlocking the bootloader. Unlocking the bootloader does NOT mean that you are changing anything related to the ROM. I does NOT mean that you are "rooting", and it does not mean you are planning to use a custom ROM.
All it means is that it gives you the ability to use fastboot commands. With this ability, you may be able to save some data off your device in case something happens and your devices' OS crashes. There have been a few reports on these forums of users who kept their bootloaders locked, then something happened and they couldn't boot their device. If their bootloaders had been unlocked, they could have at least saved their personal files (photos, music, etc) from the /sdcard directory. But, because their bootloaders were locked, too bad so sad, photos gone (they were not auto-backup to the cloud).
+1
Definitely unlock the bootloader - I learned the hard way on my N1 that getting an 'unlocked phone' is different from having a phone with an unlocked bootloader. (hunting down a bootloader locked root method so I can Titanium Backup 2 years of apps and data is a PIA).
Unlocking the bootloader on a brand new phone will not outwardly do anything to your phone other than add a little unlocked padlock to the bottom of your startup screen (the one with Google written on it).
I did 2 weeks ago what you're talking about doing now. It's super easy with the Galaxy Nexus Toolkit that mskip has created.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392310
[EDIT] P.S. - don't worry about losing warranty when unlocking the bootloader - the above GNex Toolkit can get your phone back to stock and then re-lock the bootloader for you if you ever need to use the warranty.
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First things to do:
1) Unlock your bootloader, even if you never plan on rooting or flashing a custom ROM. Do this even before booting Android for the first time.
2) Check to see if you are running yakju or takju. If you are running a build other than those two (for GSM devices), flash one of them (by following the link in my signature). Run one of those two builds for a while, so that you get a feel for what a stock ROM is.
3) Everything else.
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I just got the Galaxy S3 I747M on Friday, from Rogers.
I feel like I am seeing colour for the first time, after being shackled to an iPhone 4 and the restraints of the Apple "universe".
I was a heavy jailbreaker/customizer and want to continue on this phone. But I have no idea where to start. So many custom ROMs and what looks like 3-4 things I have to do/install before actually installing a ROM. Is there a comprehensive explanation of what needs to be done and why?
Also, any general tips/must have apps for Android? I find this phone's battery life is not stellar, but have read on here that there is a ROM that seems to help with that.
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I just got the Galaxy S3 I747M on Friday, from Rogers.
I feel like I am seeing colour for the first time, after being shackled to an iPhone 4 and the restraints of the Apple "universe".
I was a heavy jailbreaker/customizer and want to continue on this phone. But I have no idea where to start. So many custom ROMs and what looks like 3-4 things I have to do/install before actually installing a ROM. Is there a comprehensive explanation of what needs to be done and why?
Also, any general tips/must have apps for Android? I find this phone's battery life is not stellar, but have read on here that there is a ROM that seems to help with that.
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welcome...
i have only been a heavy Android user since December, but there are some good reference guides in the sticky under this form and under the old North American S3 Forum...(http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1667)
make sure u follow the rooting process that does not trip the flash counter... if u do, then no worries cause there is an app (Triangle Away) that works to reset the flash counter..
you can always go back to Unrooted stock by downloading the stock ROM's
I am on Rogers as well and i am using the KyanROM 1.2.. and it;s pretty solid.. i get pretty good battery life and using Faux123's Kernel along with it to over clock it makes it even sweeter..
there is a sticky found here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1728824) that gives u a pretty good guide on what to do from start to Rooted happiness...
have fun!
I haven't had any problems with battery life and I just rooted mine 1 hour ago I've had it since Thursday. There is a sticky that gives you detailed step by step root instructions.
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linuxbman said:
I just got the Galaxy S3 I747M on Friday, from Rogers.
I feel like I am seeing colour for the first time, after being shackled to an iPhone 4 and the restraints of the Apple "universe".
I was a heavy jailbreaker/customizer and want to continue on this phone. But I have no idea where to start. So many custom ROMs and what looks like 3-4 things I have to do/install before actually installing a ROM. Is there a comprehensive explanation of what needs to be done and why?
Also, any general tips/must have apps for Android? I find this phone's battery life is not stellar, but have read on here that there is a ROM that seems to help with that.
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I was the same as you. I got one x on launch day like 3 months ago and bricked it. It was my fault. Just research !!! Its very hard to brick an iPhone its very easy to brick an android. I'm on the new AOKP with ktoon kernel this phone is just flat out bada$$ just take your time and research
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Research research research. Make sure to research how to unbrick the phone especially so you won't be panicked if you manage to softbrick your device.
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Out with the old and in with the new...
Coming from iOS (after 6+ years) and loving all the homebrew stuff in the Android universe.
Got a Garnet Red GS3 on Friday, rooted and installed CM9 Preview on Saturday
linuxbman said:
I just got the Galaxy S3 I747M on Friday, from Rogers.
I feel like I am seeing colour for the first time, after being shackled to an iPhone 4 and the restraints of the Apple "universe".
I was a heavy jailbreaker/customizer and want to continue on this phone. But I have no idea where to start. So many custom ROMs and what looks like 3-4 things I have to do/install before actually installing a ROM. Is there a comprehensive explanation of what needs to be done and why?
Also, any general tips/must have apps for Android? I find this phone's battery life is not stellar, but have read on here that there is a ROM that seems to help with that.
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The best thing about Android is that you dont have to root or ROM to do everything that you needed to Jailbreak your iPhone to do. Does that make sense?
I have only rooted my S3 so far to get the ability to apply a few tweaks but I dont plan on ROMing it anytime soon. Runs like a champ.
I am also a new user to the android world, and though my experience I got to say do your research and back up everything.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
Was a great guide for me to flash a rooted stock rom, very simple process just need to be careful, and how to install clockworkmod recovery.
As for apps, i love my titanium backup and is worth every penny especially if you start to try different roms. One thing is if your move across different rom types most of the time you will need to wipe your data, probably the safest thing to do anyways based on my research. I got stuck in the boot screen and only way for me at that time to fix was to wipe my data.
Hello people, I hope you are all well.
So I have bought myself a Galaxy Nexus and will be selling my Galaxy SII. I decided to get the GNex, because I wanted as close to a Google phone as possible (along with the purchase of my Nexus 7).
Now, for the longest time, regardless of which Android phone / tablet I've had I normally end up loading a custom rom, which invariably ends up being CyanogenMod.
Now what to do, should I go custom again or should I try stock this time (for my N7 I've stuck with stock for the time being)?
Or should I use stock and see how the custom roms develop?
I guess more than anything I'm just thinking out aloud.
I got the gnex because of the vast amount of roms but I guess my phone does not like custom roms and prefers stock ics I have left it stock plus the leak of vz jb for their gnex prompted this too. If vz gnex has a leak means they are working on it and the sprint version should be out soon
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donsh00tmesanta said:
I got the gnex because of the vast amount of roms but I guess my phone does not like custom roms and prefers stock ics I have left it stock plus the leak of vz jb for their gnex prompted this too. If vz gnex has a leak means they are working on it and the sprint version should be out soon
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Ha, interesting. Luckily as I'm on GSM, I am now rocking JB on my phone.
Must be nice!!!! Lol
Nandroid and try out a custom rom. Codename android has lots of features
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play around with custom roms when you are bored but I wouldn't flash my daily driver cause no time to keep up with it.
Note: it's highly addicting
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hp13 said:
play around with custom roms when you are bored but I wouldn't flash my daily driver cause no time to keep up with it.
Note: it's highly addicting
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hep, I know its highly addictive!! I just get lazy having to reset all the widgets / settings etc!
custom stock. since we own an aosp device after all.
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try custom roms..u wudnt wanna get back to stock
The stock Jelly Bean is wonderful....Old versions of Android missed many things which forced us to have custom ROMs. But with JB, switch to custom only if you really need some tweaks.
The only thing you will need to do is rooting.
I rooted the phone, installed a couple of custom roms, but came back to stock. Custom roms offer a wonderful world of customizations, but for the Nexus, its still evolving and it comes with some bugs or minor problems. You may end up switching roms...
As for me, the stock is smooth and stable. And since I have root, I can always do a selective mod if needed!
You have stock JB on your N7 so why not play around a little?! :good:
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hep, I know its highly addictive!! I just get lazy having to reset all the widgets / settings etc!
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Everything can be backed up. So there's no reason to ever have to manually restore stuff.
Anyway, no question try custom ROMs, then make the decision if you prefer stock or not. But without a doubt you have to try custom ROMs to determine if you like them or not.
Thanks for the input guys. Yep, already rooted, so that's all good.
I actually used Titanium backup to backup all my apps form my SG2 and shift them over to the GNex. I also restored the user data (yes, I know you should not do that, but, touchwood, everything got transferred OK).
I guess I'll play around with stock first, just to get used to it, and then after a week or so, may give some custom roms a try.
Please help with going back to stock using a Mac
Hello, I have looked at all the guides and googled everything possible regarding returning my recently purchased Sprint GNEX back to stock so I can get the ota Jelly Bean from Sprint whenever they decide to roll it down.
I have found all kinds of vids and tutorials regarding using a pc to do this, even one post/guide that said just follow this pc guide and do this for a mac but it only confused the "H" out of me lol.
I am currently using the Codename Android JB rom but I was guided with a perfect video and guide to even do this. I am a noob or whatever they call us.
Could someone, if there is someone who knows help me find a way to go back to 4.04 on Sprint using a MAC. Please do not direct me to the guides I have seen on here for mac because they are either not for my Sprint version or are only instructions for PC. The person who did help me get Codename Android does have a youtube vid for unrooting but I tried it and it does not work for me.
There is not a whole lot around here for mac which I totally understand do this being geared to a more open system than Apple.
Thanks for any advice. I would like to get this done even if the update takes even longer to come down. I just want to be back to where I was when I bought the Sprint GNEX so I can get regular ota updates. I do not think messing with flashing is for me and on the plus side for you guys, it'll be one less dope you have to deal with.
If you are already familiar with cyanogenmod, then how could you ever settle for stock? Although CM10 is still in it's infant stages, it is coming along rather nicely. The only selling point of stock ROMs over custom ones is their reliability and even stock Android has been known to have bugs. Be honest with yourself, if you have the know how to install a custom ROM, you will never be happy unless you are flashing nightlies. You're an addict just like the rest of us, face it!
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Thank you Mike
mikedyk43 said:
If you are already familiar with cyanogenmod, then how could you ever settle for stock? Although CM10 is still in it's infant stages, it is coming along rather nicely. The only selling point of stock ROMs over custom ones is their reliability and even stock Android has been known to have bugs. Be honest with yourself, if you have the know how to install a custom ROM, you will never be happy unless you are flashing nightlies. You're an addict just like the rest of us, face it!
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For the record, I absolutely don't have the know how to install these things or root unlock etc etc. The only reason I was able to do it was due to a vid for very amateur persons. I am just a 44 yr old lady and just want to not be messing around with my phone. In fact I do not know if I even properly rooted or installed because as I said when I went to the vid from the great guy who helped me install codename, he also had a vid to unroot for mac with a sprint phone. it was such easy steps and my phone would not do it I got errors saying radio failed blah blah blah. Also don't know if I am even rooted or not but I am still on the codename rom and not back to 4.04. Is Cyangenmod what I am running? See what I mean? My issues is I am one who should not be messing around with my phone. And especially when everytime a new rom or update comes along, I have to have someone practically baby step me through it.
As for this codename android it is great. Am I rooted if I have it? See again, I literally know nothing about developing flashing rooting etc. It is just too much for my non technical brain, and as I said I really did not install this on my own and cannot even get back to stock on my own and to top it off I have only a macbook pro.
Now please do not be upset with me because I think the droid open platform is awesome compared to Apple's closed forum but being someone whom, as I said should not be messing with my phone in the 1st play since I do not understand nor do I know wth I am doing when I read instructions, I really miss my old iphone 4 8gb since I couldn't do nothing special with it.
Also I honeslty do not do too much on my phone but am the materialistic type who wants to have the latest or greatest software on whatever device. I hope you understand what I am trying to say cause I don't!
So does anyone know how to do this then?
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For the record, I absolutely don't have the know how to install these things or root unlock etc etc. The only reason I was able to do it was due to a vid for very amateur persons. I am just a 44 yr old lady and just want to not be messing around with my phone. In fact I do not know if I even properly rooted or installed because as I said when I went to the vid from the great guy who helped me install codename, he also had a vid to unroot for mac with a sprint phone. it was such easy steps and my phone would not do it I got errors saying radio failed blah blah blah. Also don't know if I am even rooted or not but I am still on the codename rom and not back to 4.04. Is Cyangenmod what I am running? See what I mean? My issues is I am one who should not be messing around with my phone. And especially when everytime a new rom or update comes along, I have to have someone practically baby step me through it.
As for this codename android it is great. Am I rooted if I have it? See again, I literally know nothing about developing flashing rooting etc. It is just too much for my non technical brain, and as I said I really did not install this on my own and cannot even get back to stock on my own and to top it off I have only a macbook pro.
Now please do not be upset with me because I think the droid open platform is awesome compared to Apple's closed forum but being someone whom, as I said should not be messing with my phone in the 1st play since I do not understand nor do I know wth I am doing when I read instructions, I really miss my old iphone 4 8gb since I couldn't do nothing special with it.
Also I honeslty do not do too much on my phone but am the materialistic type who wants to have the latest or greatest software on whatever device. I hope you understand what I am trying to say cause I don't!
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I still did not have my original question answered. Does anyone here no how to get me back to 4.04 with my Sprint GNEX using a Mac and is willing to help/guide me through? Please? Thank you. I was surprised nobody replied back last night after my reply to Mike. Also I was directed by another forum that someone on this site would definitely be able to help and know how to go back to stock using a mac. I think I gave pretty good reasons why personally, I should not be messing with my phone.
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I still did not have my original question answered. Does anyone here no how to get me back to 4.04 with my Sprint GNEX using a Mac and is willing to help/guide me through? Please? Thank you. I was surprised nobody replied back last night after my reply to Mike. Also I was directed by another forum that someone on this site would definitely be able to help and know how to go back to stock using a mac. I think I gave pretty good reasons why personally, I should not be messing with my phone.
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first, read this. then read this.
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first, read this. then read this.
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I have read both those top two guides but as I said I have a mac and am not technically inclined and need baby steps but thanks anyway. heck I don't even know if I flashed codename android correctly or made a back up and if that is true then I am screwed anyway right?
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zandermomof3 said:
I have read both those top two guides but as I said I have a mac and am not technically inclined and need baby steps but thanks anyway. heck I don't even know if I flashed codename android correctly or made a back up and if that is true then I am screwed anyway right?
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whoa, wth do all those links mean? I already told you guys I do not understand this technical stuff and those links you provide with all those codes. Thank you, honestly, I could never follow those. I was very honest here when I said I cannot mess with my phone anymore. It is only more work for you guys.
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I have read both those top two guides but as I said I have a mac and am not technically inclined and need baby steps but thanks anyway. heck I don't even know if I flashed codename android correctly or made a back up and if that is true then I am screwed anyway right?
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whoa, wth do all those links mean? I already told you guys I do not understand this technical stuff and those links you provide with all those codes. Thank you, honestly, I could never follow those. I was very honest here when I said I cannot mess with my phone anymore. It is only more work for you guys.
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you are kidding right? This is a joke on me. I have no idea how to build a thing. If noone wants to actually help just say so. I also saw nothing about mac except in the top 1st link which I already tried and got radio failed error and my phone booted right back into 4.1.1 codename android.
i dont use a mac. i was trying to help anyway. next time, dont do anything to your device. the first link i gave you was for you to understand OUR technical language and terms, so that you can SEARCH for the info you need, and you can help us help you. you just want stock right? "gnex sprint back to stock" on google gave me " http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25190768&postcount=1"? have you tried that?
if you cant flash a recovery like cwm or twrp with fastboot.. then you need to search on how to do it.
still one more way to it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620036
seems to me you just needed to understand OUR (yourself included) technical terms; this is xda-devs, not xda-help-noobs.
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