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Convince me to root!

So far I have zero complaints about this phone, there are some ui things I would like fixed, and I know can be fixed via rooting, but they just don't seem to be enough to push me over the edge. I have files downloaded and ready to go, but just can't seem to take the plunge. I thought I had my first los today, but the phone recovered as soon as I was back in signal(if it hadn't that would have done it).
So why should I root?
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You can always revert back to the stock kernel if you have an issue (or have them that frequently that you can't stand it). Anybody who thinks that once you root there is no way to go back is an idiot. "lol, I got no LOS then I rooted and even though I put stock kernel back its all [email protected] lol" not true.
I got 2 LOS in the first week stock...rooted...got a bit more than usual, but nothing crazy. Flashed stock kernel back, still rooted, didn't have another for a few weeks until I flashed a new kernel...flashed back, have had none...etc etc etc, YMMV, but, umm, I don't think you have anything to be afraid of. Just know what you are doing...don't just flash stuff and figure it out later. Know why you want something and how to 'put it back'...also having/making a USB jig would be a good idea, but not necessary.
You can get them for like $3 on amazon or build one with a microUSB cable and $1 worth of stuff from radioshack.
I don't know about you but I certainly didn't get this phone to NOT mod it.

I didn't get the phone to keep it stock, not really worried about los, it recovers after flying for 2 hours with no signal, rooting shouldn't make much difference., planning on using viperom and lostkernel.
Maybe tomorrow I will root
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flyboy1100 said:
I didn't get the phone to keep it stock, not really worried about los, it recovers after flying for 2 hours with no signal, rooting shouldn't make much difference., planning on using viperom and lostkernel.
Maybe tomorrow I will root
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The only thing I can tell you is that read the directions and understand ODIN for all of the ODIN stuff you do. That is one of the ways you can brick the fnck out of this phone...not paying attention in ODIN. Don't write a partition if you are not told to...and try to only use it to flash a kernel+CWM and flash everything else from CWM if and when possible.
If you aren't worried about LOS (and it is real and under the right circumstances it'll effect every phone...reboot...no big deal...if it is flash a pulled stock kernel) then go for it.
I haven't tried ViperROM on this phone yet, but, I can tell you from my time with the E3D that kid knows what he's doin'....I'm sure this ROM is no different and I've heard nothing but great things about the LoST kernel.

If you don't want to root, don't. Why would anyone want to pressure you?
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Tell us how it goes. You won't be disappointed.
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If U need convincing, you probably don't need it.
Sent from my Galaxy S2

Someone convince me to strangle my puppy. I love him and all and he is very well mannered but if you guys can talk me into strangling him, I will.

ravizzle said:
If U need convincing, you probably don't need it.
Sent from my Galaxy S2
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I agree. You root cause u want to. If u want someone to convince u then maybe u shouldn't.
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I don't understand why some people view this almost like losing their virginity, trying a drug or robbing a liquor store. It's a very well understood technical process with very specific pros and cons that are also very well understood.

Yep. First android phone for me, and I bought it with the full intention of making it MY phone. After all, they are basically an additional limb for most people, no? (I'd say if you're registered with xda that is most likely the case! ) So you might as well go balls to the walls, right? If you're not into that kind of thing, then keep it stock! This phone is AMAZING just sitting at the home screen...it looks awesome! It is a great piece of technology, with plenty of great features and capability, and will serve you very well whether its rooted or not. Good luck with whatever you do!

buggerritt said:
If you don't want to root, don't. Why would anyone want to pressure you?
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Not looking for pressure. I will probably root it tomorrow or next week
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Because all the cool kids are doing it!
I broke down and did it yesterday when someone said viper ROM solved his app freezing due to using a ton of CPU usage bug. So far, so good.
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OP if you are on EG30 baseband could you extract the modem.bin file for us so we could test it?

I would just stay stock. Honestly, no offense to the developers, but there is just nothing substantial out there. If you want a couple of different themes, you could consider rooting, but other than that every ROM I have flashed provided close to nothing really.
I mean, what? Battery percentage mod? Removed CIQ? "Speed" tweaks? A reboot option?
Nothing made this phone faster or more efficient than stock touchWiz. There is no real difference except that people like to flash, so they would flash anything.
Sorry. That's just my take on it.
Wait for MIUI or CM.

I gotta say i miss root, I was finicky on rooting my epic 4g ad once I did, oooh lord I never looked back , of course I've stumbled into troubles but following directions, I got back on track and learned a few this gs along the way, now what's stopping me on rooting the ET4G is not having the actual way to go back to full true stock,like we were able to do on the epic 4g with using Odin, giving you a factory full stock phone , or any older device, since we don't have true stock roms and kernels, unless I'm wrong g of course and I've been missing out! If so direct me!

Kikoshi said:
I gotta say i miss root, I was finicky on rooting my epic 4g ad once I did, oooh lord I never looked back , of course I've stumbled into troubles but following directions, I got back on track and learned a few this gs along the way, now what's stopping me on rooting the ET4G is not having the actual way to go back to full true stock,like we were able to do on the epic 4g with using Odin, giving you a factory full stock phone , or any older device, since we don't have true stock roms and kernels, unless I'm wrong g of course and I've been missing out! If so direct me!
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We have stock roms to ODIN, but it's not factory stock. We have the factory stock kernel that was pulled from a stock phone. What we lack is an OEM RUU to make it 100%-in-every-way-stock.
That said, I have trashed my 4G and wifi somehow on multiple occasions due to rampant recklessness on my part. I just factory-wiped (apparently...I don't remember that part but I must have) and flashed the ODIN rooted stock (with stock kernel) and it fixes everything every time.

daneurysm said:
We have stock roms to ODIN, but it's not factory stock. We have the factory stock kernel that was pulled from a stock phone. What we lack is an OEM RUU to make it 100%-in-every-way-stock.
That said, I have trashed my 4G and wifi somehow on multiple occasions due to rampant recklessness on my part. I just factory-wiped (apparently...I don't remember that part but I must have) and flashed the ODIN rooted stock (with stock kernel) and it fixes everything every time.
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So then you recommend rooting this early?

i rooted so i could have wifi tethering and control over CPU speeds (via setcpu) in addition, there's some neat functionality that starburst ROM allows:
- better lock screens
- motion controlled silencing of phone
- battery % viewing
some people care about the speed tweaks (i haven't noticed any speed increase) and ciq (i don't really care for this), but there are several reasons to root. that being said, if you don't need the additional functionality of the phone, then preserve your phone's warranty!

Yea I'd say stay stock in terms of the ROM and kernel, but hell yea why not root? Right now I'm running stock kernel with CWM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1305099) and the stock ROM with root and busybox (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1282415) and I love it. I was running Midnight ROM but I went back to stock to see if that helped the LoS issues at all. If you're like me and really just want control over the hotspot feature and CPU underclocking (things of that nature) then def go stock rooted fo shoski.

Why install ROM over just Rooting ?

Please help explain to my Brother who just got a GSM Nexus from the Play/Market store, what benefits there are to installing a good stable ROM over just Rooting the phone ? My bro is super smart, he's a programmer, and knows a ton about technology, etc..He just mentioned he's happy Rooted and that's it.
I have the Verizon Nexus, and rooted and ROM'd the first day I bought it, and love trying out different ROM's. But what is a good reason to install a nice ROM, instead of just using the stock Nexus that is Rooted ? How would you explain that to someone new to this phone ? And why do it ?

because when you root your phone, it does a lot of alterations and depending on what you do with root access (such as... put something in /system/ etc etc) there are a lot of variables. This may affect future OTAs, and if you do accept them and you did those altercations then your phone will not brick but there will be problems booting up/applying it etc etc.
So in the end, you might as well take things into your own hand and flash. If you're going to root, do it the WHOLE way. Not go half in, and half out. That's just my opinion.
And sigh, another thread about what ROM to choose from. Look at the dev section and look at all the ROMs and depending on the comments + features (OP post) have to offer. Select your choice there. The most popular combo is AOKP with Franco Kernel.
And if someone is new, I'd leave their phone stock. Otherwise, you'll be holding their hands and asking you questions on how to do things. A rooted phone is that person's responsibility.

Zorachus said:
Please help explain to my Brother who just got a GSM Nexus from the Play/Market store, what benefits there are to installing a good stable ROM over just Rooting the phone ? My bro is super smart, he's a programmer, and knows a ton about technology, etc..He just mentioned he's happy Rooted and that's it.
I have the Verizon Nexus, and rooted and ROM'd the first day I bought it, and love trying out different ROM's. But what is a good reason to install a nice ROM, instead of just using the stock Nexus that is Rooted ? How would you explain that to someone new to this phone ? And why do it ?
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Are you trying to insist your brother flash? Maybe he is quite content with stock and knows it is stable and root just gives the extra privileges he wants. I am running stock and almost pure kernel rooted and very happy.
let it be.

Zorachus said:
Please help explain to my Brother who just got a GSM Nexus from the Play/Market store, what benefits there are to installing a good stable ROM over just Rooting the phone ? My bro is super smart, he's a programmer, and knows a ton about technology, etc..He just mentioned he's happy Rooted and that's it.
I have the Verizon Nexus, and rooted and ROM'd the first day I bought it, and love trying out different ROM's. But what is a good reason to install a nice ROM, instead of just using the stock Nexus that is Rooted ? How would you explain that to someone new to this phone ? And why do it ?
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If he doesn't see the need for it, then he shouldn't put a ROM on the phone. Don't push him to do it. He's a smart guy, let him make his own decisions. The worst thing you can do is force him to use a custom ROM when he doesn't want to, and have him regret it.

Zorachus said:
Please help explain to my Brother who just got a GSM Nexus from the Play/Market store, what benefits there are to installing a good stable ROM over just Rooting the phone ? My bro is super smart, he's a programmer, and knows a ton about technology, etc..He just mentioned he's happy Rooted and that's it.
I have the Verizon Nexus, and rooted and ROM'd the first day I bought it, and love trying out different ROM's. But what is a good reason to install a nice ROM, instead of just using the stock Nexus that is Rooted ? How would you explain that to someone new to this phone ? And why do it ?
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Im too a software developer and a electronics engineer, and i was a stock lover until i tried AOKP Milestone, i would never go back to stock, the feature rich/stabilty/power saving/customization of this rom its just godly.. He wont ever know what are the ICS's real calabilities until he try out whats there.. He can always go back to pure stock.. So i dont see the point on non flashing and testing roms..
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Because he'll be able to sit at the cool kids table at lunch.
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phaze one said:
Because he'll be able to sit at the cool kids table at lunch.
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He could always stay stock and sit at the "my phone always works" table .

Such a simple question. Because it adds tons of features and functions. You can't really make a judgement saying you're fine stock if you don't know the other side of the question what the other roms offer. Only when you try both can you say yes or no you're happy with or without stock.
My personal opinion, the roms on this phone offer god like amount of features worth using.

Galaxy nexus questions.

Hey all, first off, please don't flame. I am totally unfamiliar with Samsung. I just got my mom a gnex for mothers day and am going to root it but I keep seeing all these thread posts saying Google wallet is broken scattered through the ROM threads. I don't know if I'm even gonna put a custom rom on her phone, I just want root for maintenance. And I really don't have time to seriously study tons of threads. If anyone could advise about
A( what is breaking wallet
B( if I unlock bootloader and put on custom recovery, do I need to restore to factory recovery to flash radio updates ?
Ç( if there is a ROM that is pretty stock but more importantly stable, it'd be super appreciated to hear about it.
I run AOKP on me Evo 4g, but the random reboots are quite frequent. Is it more stable here?
By the way, it's a sprint galaxy nexus. Thanks much for any pointers.
Looking for good kernel for battery more than performance. Also, it seems to me on Sammy, you can't flash radio updates on custom kernel or custom recovery. Am I reading wrong?
Much thank to any who take time to respond. Thanks.
sent from 2yr old Evo on ICS

Don't root and ROM your mother's Galaxy Nexus.
Jesus people. Leave it stock. Don't need to do maintenance, don't need to do anything. Leave it stock and you'll save yourself and her all kinds of trouble.

Point taken, but the thing is she's been dealing with a Samsung moment for >2yrs . The thing won't even hardly make phone calls anymore, takes about 45sec for SMS to open etc. She's always asking me if it can be fixed (cuz she knows I spend 24-7 on my Evo and xda). I always tell her I'd have to root it to really try to do anything (wipe caches, etc).. but i got her a gnex figuring if there's issues, I can fix for her easily (also got it for her cuz I figured if development on Evo LTE goes south, I'll trade phones with her.
Anyhow, was hoping for clarification about do I have to have stock recovery and ROM to update radios etc. On HTC Evo you don't, but it seems like I've seen talk of that here.
Thanks anyone.
Edit: and martonikaj, I'll keep your info in mind.
Just trying to figure where the partition checks are with Sammy. I thought I read that if your kernel is custom, you can't flash updated radios.
sent from 2yr old Evo on ICS

scottspa74 said:
Edit: and martonikaj, I'll keep your info in mind.
Just trying to figure where the partition checks are with Sammy. I thought I read that if your kernel is custom, you can't flash updated radios.
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I understand her frustration with her current device and your willingness to help, but you need to keep her device stock. You don't need to flash new radios to the device. Just leave it stock and you'll both be better off in the long run. The cons vastly outweigh the pros when considering rooting/ROMing a device of a completely novice/uninformed user that doesn't need any extra issues.
Just FYI, there is no check on the Nexus. You can be running whatever kernel and ROM you want and flash radios if your bootloader is unlocked. But again, this will never be necessary, the phone will work just fine on stock radios.

I super appreciate your input. You have answered questions I have. I am one of those who deeply feel that if your Android is not rooted, then you should buy a non Android device. It's Only yours if you control its dalvik and can wipe caches
Need recovery for that.
I'm not at all arguing with your point. And I appreciate the responses (but without #, it's only good for throwaway).
Thank you.
sent from 2yr old Evo on ICS

scottspa74 said:
I super appreciate your input. You have answered questions I have. I am one of those who deeply feel that if your Android is not rooted, then you should buy a non Android device. It's Only yours if you control its dalvik and can wipe caches
Need recovery for that.
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You're welcome.
I'll agree on your point if your mom wants to read up on what root is, follow an XDA guide, learn how to use command prompt and Fastboot, and root her own device.
Until then, leave it stock.

Should have gotten her an IPhone lol.. I agree with you that every android should be rooted, but Moms don't need root they need something that just works . If a person is willing to do the research and learning about root themselves I always recommend android, if not stock or IPhone less headache for me
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twizzler703 said:
Should have gotten her an IPhone lol.. I agree with you that every android should be rooted, but Moms don't need root they need something that just works . If a person is willing to do the research and learning about root themselves I always recommend android, if not stock or IPhone less headache for me
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The phone its just perfect as is it.. Id root her phone just to put adfree on it
The phone is not Samsung, i mean doesn't have touchwiz on it.. Its pure google
And. Forget about iphone
Galaxy Nexus AOKP m5 Franco kernel m3

msedek said:
The phone its just perfect as is it.. Id root her phone just to put adfree on it
The phone is not Samsung, i mean doesn't have touchwiz on it.. Its pure google
And. Forget about iphone
Galaxy Nexus AOKP m5 Franco kernel m3
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Exactly. Google will only mass release versions that are finished and user friendly. Don't root it, it won't make her experience any better.

I've rooted devices for a few not-quite-as-technically-savvy-as-me friends in the past, and I've always regretted it - as have they. You shouldn't own a rooted device unless you rooted it yourself and know how to operate it. Otherwise, it's just asking for problems and complications. I got so sick of the calls from friends in other countries, "Hey, you rooted my phone and now I can't install an update that my carrier is pushing. Fix it!" Or if it's not a cry for help, I'd catch blame for any little issue that randomly occurred on the device. "My phone just randomly rebooted itself, this is obviously because you broke it when you rooted it."
I can only imagine how much worse it would be with a mother.
If you absolutely need the ability to wipe cache and dalvik (not really an issue unless your flashing ROMs, which your mother won't be, but whatever), you can always do it through fastboot.
Again, what martonikaj said:
martonikaj said:
Don't root and ROM your mother's Galaxy Nexus.
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Whew, Now what?

Ok I have taken my first step as a droid user, My epic 4g touch is now rooted
Was scared to death to do it, but it really went without a hitch, so my next question, what is next? Recommend me some good roms, and could anybody give me a quick run down on how you flash new roms?

droidgalaxy said:
Ok I have taken my first step as a droid user, My epic 4g touch is now rooted
Was scared to death to do it, but it really went without a hitch, so my next question, what is next? Recommend me some good roms, and could anybody give me a quick run down on how you flash new roms?
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The next step is to never call it a Droid again, this isn't Verizon.
Find a gingerbread ROM and read carefully.
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droidgalaxy said:
Ok I have taken my first step as a droid user, My epic 4g touch is now rooted
Was scared to death to do it, but it really went without a hitch, so my next question, what is next? Recommend me some good roms, and could anybody give me a quick run down on how you flash new roms?
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I would suggest going to the Dev thread and read about the different ROM's out there. Another suggestion is to look at QBKings library of videos and reviews. But yes... Read ALL the fine print so you don't brick the phone. Good luck!
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First step is Why did you Root?
Second step is, what do you want to change?
Stay stock unless there is something you are looking for.

Bielinsk said:
First step is Why did you Root?
Second step is, what do you want to change?
Stay stock unless there is something you are looking for.
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Why on earth would you want to stay stock? Go for some ics! All the ics roms are pretty kick ass!
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First thing to do after rooting. Install adblockers. Next remove Sprint bloatware. Take it slow and read a lot and you will soon become addicted to your phone.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27294056
A sfhub one click might be a good first rom .
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READ READ READ and learn all the basics before you do ANYTHING else...learn the meaning of rom, kernel, modem, cwm, themes, apps...with Samsung you need to understand the difference between touchwiz based roms and (the other platforms). You also need to understand that gingerbread based roms are built on final full supported stock operating systems and ice cream sandwich roms are currently built from leaked and not final versions so I agree with a previous poster to cut your teeth on GB first.
I would first return to the General section and read Venum's "What is ClockwordMod and how to use it..." so that the very next thing you learn to do is a "nandroid" backup. If you have installed the optional SD card card, you need to pay attention to where your back ups are stored and in general how to navigate your file system in terms of what folders are on the built in "internal" SD vs "external". Always do a nandroid backup, but I also recommend you install and pay for Titanium Backup Pro and yes I said pay (and learn how to use it). You will read a lot of differing opinions on XDA about Titanium Backup, but it has served me well.
This is only my second post to XDA even though I stumbled across the world of rooting, custom roms, etc. almost a year ago when I began hearing rumblings of Sprint offering the iPhone. I had unresolved bluetooth issues and thought I'd try one more time to search the Internet to find a solution before I gave up on my Epic (which I loved but the bt problem was annoying enough to switch platforms) and that's how I first learned about root access.
The reason this is only my second post in almost a year is because I have never needed to ask a question because I SEARCH AND READ for multiple answers to the same question before I make a move. I always watch qbking77's videos and I NEVER take shortcuts.
So yeah I'm a committed android/google/win7 person...I own an iPad that I bought for my 80yo mother who just wasn't into it and I didn't know I only had 14 days to return it. I use it some but I just don't get these apple people and what all the fuss is about.

Why did I get another Android phone?

I was so excited to get a different phone. I had been contending with the insufferable Galaxy Note 2 for 9 months. I really believed that getting the LG Optimus G Pro would be great.
Now I come to find out that there is this locked bootloader? yes before you even start typing: I already know about Freegee. I put it on my phone, it did its work. I have CWM on my phone. I cannot install a different rom. It aborts every time.
And nobody here can help. Its not like you don't see my posts. You see them. You just see them and decide to go on to something more interesting figuring that someone else will help the poor guy.
Hey guess what. I took programming in college. Only one course in VB but I did take it. And I've put up several websites back in the day. ("back in the day is a United States colloquialism")
My point is, even though I have a bit of experience with computers (linux distros, html, visual basic) I still can't figure out the quagmire that is Android.
Once the iPhone 6 comes out, I really have no reason to stick with Android anymore. I mean, if rooting and rom-ing the phone is more boringly laborious than jailbreaking, then what is the point of Android?
For example, lets say I do clear the hurdle and then flash a rom so I can get decent sound? THEN my wifi won't work. Or Some other crucial functionality will be fubar-ed. Okay okay... you say you have a fix for that? Well when its all said and done, the time/energy costs just aren't worth it, now is it?

0 #!*! Given ?

That's interesting because I never took any classes and have never had a problem rooting or doing Roms on any android phone. Sorry your experience has been bad but my questions have always been answered by somebody in the related thread. I would try asking again in the ROM's thread to see what is happening.
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G pro is the note 2 killer...... Just follow instructions of any op to the T and you should be fine.... It's simple lol
2SHAYNEZ

I agree. I don't post often but I really do hate Apple. Android kicks Apple's you know what many times over. Talk about being locked down.... If I've ever had a problem with a Rom someone has always helped me figure it out. Sorry about your problems though.
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@Perry2547,
If CWM doesn't work then try TWRP, even i had problems with CWM.either install it from freegee or install this
copy this to sd card and then flash it in CWM and reboot.

I believe the OP just wanted to start a thread...
So you all may ignore him

Thanks @sukesh.
I tried the twrp you linked to and now my phone will let me flash.
Unfortunately, Camera has stopped.

Close thread please.
2SHAYNEZ

I don't even remember how I rooted this phone... I know I found a thread that had comprehensive instructions, links, etc and believe it was as simple as downloading/extracting an executable file on my PC and plugging the phone into USB at the right moment. I've flashed CM, stock 4.4, Slim and always find my way back to stock 4.1.2, modded to my liking. If you can't flash something in a custom recovery, it's likely your phone is protecting you from failure to completely read/follow a prior mod or a prerequisite to the ROM/Mod you wish to flash.
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But seriously y'all, I'm just glad I have another two hours if battery life left. That means I will vhave to recharge this phone only 3 more times today.
Unfortunately, Camera has stopped.

I too just got new lg ogp phone. Been trying to customize it to my liking for the past 3 days and night. All I can say about android is it is not for everybody. Sure, you can use it as it is when you first get it as a stock device, and it will work as advertise. But there is a reason that you try modifing it regardless of breaking the manufacturer's warranty (yes, once you start rooting it, you violate the agreement.) You have personality of the kind that thinks you can fix anything by yourself. Nothing wrong with that, I'm in same personality group too, many Android owners are. After all, what is the point if you can't modify the phone to your liking? Might as well get an Iphone right? Sadly though, it seems the new android trend is just heading the way of iphone, where users have to be protected from harming themselves. I noticed all the difficulties when I tried to root this LG phone, as compared to the phone I had two years ago. But android users are a persistent lot, more securities mean inventing more ways to break them. If you have problem installing ROM, try cm11 nightly build, it works for me. Post the specific problems and situations. We should be able to help each other. After all, android owners are together in a special community where we can relate to each other because of ideas we have for our phones. My advice to you is make sure you have the newest recovery and you are properly rooted. I can't use the script method where you run a msdos batch file. Since atnt suppose locked the boot.img file or something. Had to use a program called root master.
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Nobody gives a damn, get life!

Antigen said:
Nobody gives a damn, get life!
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Haha
2SHAYNEZ

hawkwind212 said:
I too just got new lg ogp phone. Been trying to customize it to my liking for the past 3 days and night. All I can say about android is it is not for everybody. Sure, you can use it as it is when you first get it as a stock device, and it will work as advertise. But there is a reason that you try modifing it regardless of breaking the manufacturer's warranty (yes, once you start rooting it, you violate the agreement.) You have personality of the kind that thinks you can fix anything by yourself. Nothing wrong with that, I'm in same personality group too, many Android owners are. After all, what is the point if you can't modify the phone to your liking? Might as well get an Iphone right? Sadly though, it seems the new android trend is just heading the way of iphone, where users have to be protected from harming themselves. I noticed all the difficulties when I tried to root this LG phone, as compared to the phone I had two years ago. But android users are a persistent lot, more securities mean inventing more ways to break them. If you have problem installing ROM, try cm11 nightly build, it works for me. Post the specific problems and situations. We should be able to help each other. After all, android owners are together in a special community where we can relate to each other because of ideas we have for our phones. My advice to you is make sure you have the newest recovery and you are properly rooted. I can't use the script method where you run a msdos batch file. Since atnt suppose locked the boot.img file or something. Had to use a program called root master.
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Exactly.
If android is going to be locked down, what is the point? With iPhone bringing in 3rd party keyboards and phablet size phones, might as well go with them instead of utilitarian design devices made by dictator led countries where creativity is frowned upon.
Unfortunately, Camera has stopped.

Perry2547 said:
Exactly.
If android is going to be locked down, what is the point? With iPhone bringing in 3rd party keyboards and phablet size phones, might as well go with them instead of utilitarian design devices made by dictator led countries where creativity is frowned upon.
Unfortunately, Camera has stopped.
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Oh lawdy... Then go to iPhone buddy .. Lol see ya
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But Apple has been implicated in planned obsolescence as well.
Does that matter to you?
To me, it makes me a bit upset that I could work on my vehicle twenty years ago, but now it's not possible. Planned obsolescence.
Make everything sweepstakes m disposable. Lock it down too. Keep every one buying the upgrades.
Unfortunately, Camera has stopped.

Are you still having problem installing the ROM? You have never tell us what kind of problems you ran into specifically. You just ventted your frustration here, nobody wants to hear that. If you want people to help, describe the issue. Go to this site and download the program vroot.
http://www.mobilepoint.us/2013/10/android-root-master-one-click-vroot.html#.U9XRXYfwJGo
The program is in Chinese, so you may want to watch youtube videos on the master root program first. Do a factory reset, clean wipe, run master root program, and hopefully you should be able to install the recovery. Once the recovery is properly installed, you can install the custom rom. Since there aren't many, I suggest you try cyanogenmod.
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Are you still having problem installing the ROM? You have never tell us what kind of problems you ran into specifically. You just ventted your frustration here, nobody wants to hear that. If you want people to help, describe the issue. Go to this site and download the program vroot.
http://www.mobilepoint.us/2013/10/android-root-master-one-click-vroot.html#.U9XRXYfwJGo
The program is in Chinese, so you may want to watch youtube videos on the master root program first. Do a factory reset, clean wipe, run master root program, and hopefully you should be able to install the recovery. Once the recovery is properly installed, you can install the custom rom. Since there aren't many, I suggest you try cyanogenmod.
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I got a ROM to install. I indicated so in the thread. It was the E988 rom on the E980 thread.
I do a lot of whining and complaining but its for the best.
I hope that the complaining I did about Samsung's crappy products has saved a few people from buying...that is the only way that company will learn their lesson. Why pay $800 for a device only to get screen burn in.
But I never ever never ever BRICKED my Note 2.
I've bricked this OGP more times than I can count.
We should have the options to remove the locked boot loader. I would gladly sign an agreement acknowledging the risks.
We're going backwards. We're not making progress.
Same things is happening in desktop/laptop computers. I had to do something unusual to remove the UEFI on a Windows machine I bought last year just to install Lubuntu.
Speaking of Lubuntu, I had an ASUS Netbook with Windows 7 and an Atom processor. Needless to say, it ran slow. So I installed Lubuntu. Then , wow, the device ran so fast and smooth, and the already good battery life got three times better.
Why can't we have an option like that for our smartphones? I want to run the equivalent of Lubuntu on my OGP.
And another thing: Why are some custom roms dimming the display? Is it to make it appear as if the rom is giving better battery life?
Peace out bro.. but yeah, I'm not stopping my rants. If you don't like what I've got to say, simply don't read it.

This phone is not much more difficult to root than any Samsung phone I used. Also why didn't you do research before buying the phone? It was stated clearly that the boot loader was locked. However since day one of purchase I was able to follow a thread and have my phone rooted in ten minutes. It is really not that hard. Now there are a bunch of one click roots. This phone installs custom Roms every time with ease for me. I am no expert but I can read instructions. If you follow them, 99% of the time things will work. I love android for the fact that I have options. I am running a rooted stock ROM now but I love knowing that in ten minutes time I can have a new ROM flashed. This community has been so helpful and responsive.
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