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Disclaimer: This thread is primarily for all New York City residents with a Sprint Galaxy S3 but those with knowledgeable info should reply as well!
I'm trying to gather a little information in regards to mobile data speeds specifically within the NYC area. A few questions if you may kindly respond to get the discussion rolling.
What modem/baseband/radio are you currently using?
What rom are you currently using?
How are your data speeds while on mobile data with said modem/baseband/radio?
Have you flashed any scripts/tweaks or use any apps to assist with your mobile data speeds?
With regards to location, where do you use mobile data the most? (post one of the 5 boroughs)
Thank you in advance to all who respond! :victory:

cOmm_718 said:
Disclaimer: This thread is primarily for all New York City residents with a Sprint Galaxy S3 but those with knowledgeable info should reply as well!
I'm trying to gather a little information in regards to mobile data speeds specifically within the NYC area. A few questions if you may kindly respond to get the discussion rolling.
What modem/baseband/radio are you currently using?
What rom are you currently using?
How are your data speeds while on mobile data with said modem/baseband/radio?
Have you flashed any scripts/tweaks or use any apps to assist with your mobile data speeds?
With regards to location, where do you use mobile data the most? (post one of the 5 boroughs)
Thank you in advance to all who respond! :victory:
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1) LJ7
2) CM10 latest nightly
3) Terrible piece of ****. Doesn't matter what baseband I'm using its **** data in my area.
4) Tried a few over the years, non have worked. Maybe someone can recommend me something?
5) Staten Island
I will say there are some areas in S.I. that have good data speeds...just not mine. Every other carrier but Sprint has good data speeds in my area.

I believe putting speeds, instead of "****" would help make this survey more accurate in terms of logistics. Haha
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lilman355 said:
I believe putting speeds, instead of "****" would help make this survey more accurate in terms of logistics. Haha
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Didn't you know? **** is equivalent to 0.10-0.3 mb/s. Simple math.

lilman355 said:
I believe putting speeds, instead of "****" would help make this survey more accurate in terms of logistics. Haha
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Lol sorry. I get around 0.07 megabits per second down.

cOmm_718 said:
Disclaimer: This thread is primarily for all New York City residents with a Sprint Galaxy S3 but those with knowledgeable info should reply as well!
I'm trying to gather a little information in regards to mobile data speeds specifically within the NYC area. A few questions if you may kindly respond to get the discussion rolling.
What modem/baseband/radio are you currently using?
What rom are you currently using?
How are your data speeds while on mobile data with said modem/baseband/radio?
Have you flashed any scripts/tweaks or use any apps to assist with your mobile data speeds?
With regards to location, where do you use mobile data the most? (post one of the 5 boroughs)
Thank you in advance to all who respond! :victory:
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1: Running LG8
2: Blazer Rom think its 1.9, not Jelly Bean yet, still ICS
3: Just ran a test, 1.54Mbps Down, .88 up
4: Whatever is built into the rom, dont think there are any
5: I work in Queens, around Flushing is where I just did this test. I use data mostly in Manhattan when going in for meetings but have not checked my Manhattan speeds in a while. Heading home to Long Island, it sucks, get a lot of 1x areas

LJ7 Leak Modem/Baseband/Radio
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Can easily pull down well over 2 Mb/s in downtown Manhattan (Battery Park) late at night, and around 1.7 Mb/s average. Can also pull down around 2 Mb/s in Nassau county, LI on average. Where I live in Queens, 400 Kb/s average.
No tweaks or scripts of any kind. Personally don't believe they work.
I travel from Queens to Manhattan at least once a week, and have noticed that speeds in NYC seem to depend on network load. I generally get much better speeds late at night.

I've been getting a good 1-3mbps on 3g
I took this one just now
I'm on the latest jb leak
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Must be more people than this.

This was in Harlem. 140th street and Convent Avenue on 4G. On the JB leak, stock.
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This was in Harlem. 140th street and Convent Avenue on 4G. On the JB leak, stock.
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Damn. I'll be up around 125th next week, I hope I can test this out. I spend some time around Battery Park pretty regularly, but no LTE down there yet. I would think it would make more sense to activate downtown Manhattan first.

Originally Posted by nyckid211
This was in Harlem. 140th street and Convent Avenue on 4G. On the JB leak, stock.
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Damn. I'll be up around 125th next week, I hope I can test this out. I spend some time around Battery Park pretty regularly, but no LTE down there yet. I would think it would make more sense to activate downtown Manhattan first.
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Hope you get the same results. Drove down Convent, two blocks uptown and it dropped to 3G.
I went back to verify the 4G.
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lte!!!! s3 manhattan
Just got 4g on my phone as i was watching southpark just now arghhhhhhh took a screenshot

And i live in 141 n amsterdam so i guess we finally having it up here

Doubt they will have any towers up and running in the Bronx :-\
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Iphony89 said:
Doubt they will have any towers up and running in the Bronx :-\
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Who are you telling... I live up in Wakefield... I'll probably be lucky to ever see 4G. That 4G that I got was on a college campus. That's probably why it's up.
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nyckid211 said:
Who are you telling... I live up in Wakefield... I'll probably be lucky to ever see 4G. That 4G that I got was on a college campus. That's probably why it's up.
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Exactly where I live too, but I work in the city, so I guess I'll enjoy 4G then lol
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betterment66 said:
Just got 4g on my phone as i was watching southpark just now arghhhhhhh took a screenshot
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What rom and modem are you using?
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I'm glad to see fellow NYers posting up and hyped that some of you guys are getting 4G connection! That's a clear indication that Sprint is already rolling out 4G in NYC and I can't wait till the majority of the city is covered.
I personally haven't seen a 4G connection on mine but I'll definitely be on the lookout now. For the posters who did get 4G, please continue to tell us where else you're catching 4G data! :good:

hoping we get some LTE love in brooklyn too, live in bk and working manhattan.....just ordered my gs3 today, coming from the epic touch

nyckid211 said:
This was in Harlem. 140th street and Convent Avenue on 4G. On the JB leak, stock.
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Lucky. I'm in bushwick and work on LIC. When wimax was being tested it was first in LIC. Can't wait for LTE already. Tired of ****ty 3G speeds everywhere.
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Network Speed

Has anyone else been getting pathetically low network speeds? I cant get more than 200kbps with two different roms that I am using. Is it just me or is anyone else experiencing it?

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Has anyone else been getting pathetically low network speeds? I cant get more than 200kbps with two different roms that I am using. Is it just me or is anyone else experiencing it?
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First of all, everyone's network speeds will vary by carrier and location.
Are you talking about wireless internet?
Are you on 3G or LTE?
What are you using to get your speed results?
My speeds could be great, and I walk two feet over and its horrible. My phone will hop to a different cell tower. Or while I'm at home I could be in a dead zone so my wireless will drop out. You need to be much much much more specific then what your telling us.
The chances of another fellow xda member using the same cell tower or your wireless router is slim to none. Just so your aware. Could be a problem with your carrier as well
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g2tegg said:
First of all, everyone's network speeds will vary by carrier and location.
Are you talking about wireless internet?
Are you on 3G or LTE?
What are you using to get your speed results?
My speeds could be great, and I walk two feet over and its horrible. My phone will hop to a different cell tower. Or while I'm at home I could be in a dead zone so my wireless will drop out. You need to be much much much more specific then what your telling us.
The chances of another fellow xda member using the same cell tower or your wireless router is slim to none. Just so your aware. Could be a problem with your carrier as well
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I am talking about 3g and lte. It started last week and I havent had good network speeds since then. I have switched roms three times and I have not gotten any better speeds. I am using speedtest.net app to get my speeds. I am on At&t and I realize that this differs from person to person but I am just getting tired of not being able to hardly anything without wifi.

matt_12tall said:
I am talking about 3g and lte. It started last week and I havent had good network speeds since then. I have switched roms three times and I have not gotten any better speeds. I am using speedtest.net app to get my speeds. I am on At&t and I realize that this differs from person to person but I am just getting tired of not being able to hardly anything without wifi.
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Are you on unlimited data? Sounds like throttling.

ibanezbass said:
Are you on unlimited data? Sounds like throttling.
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No 3gb a month. I dont know why they would throttle me since I have limited data.

matt_12tall said:
No 3gb a month. I dont know why they would throttle me since I have limited data.
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Have you gone over 3 gb and are you sure you have the correct apn settings?
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skalatsky said:
Have you gone over 3 gb and are you sure you have the correct apn settings?
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If he goes over they would charge more, not throttle..
Do you live in orange county by chance? Atts network has been broken lately down here...
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My data is horrible recently!

At home my data is usually always 7mbps-15mbps.. This past week it's been horrible at home. At about 40kbps...
At work and everywhere else it's fine, but once I get home it's horrible! Even 2 miles away from my house, it's fine.
I called tmobile and they filed a ticket to look into the tower but could take up to 10 days.
Anyone have any ideas?
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Mftek1 said:
At home my data is usually always 7mbps-15mbps.. This past week it's been horrible at home. At about 40kbps...
At work and everywhere else it's fine, but once I get home it's horrible! Even 2 miles away from my house, it's fine.
I called tmobile and they filed a ticket to look into the tower but could take up to 10 days.
Anyone have any ideas?
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Have any friends using the same tower?
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RonnieRuff said:
Have any friends using the same tower?
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I'm going to ask a couple friends right now, my wife's phone is always getting the same speeds 20-40kbps download
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Mftek1 said:
At home my data is usually always 7mbps-15mbps.. This past week it's been horrible at home. At about 40kbps...
At work and everywhere else it's fine, but once I get home it's horrible! Even 2 miles away from my house, it's fine.
I called tmobile and they filed a ticket to look into the tower but could take up to 10 days.
Anyone have any ideas?
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Depending on where u live ur tower by ur house can be old and not updated so it slower or it can be a borrowed tower. The one by ur job must be in a city which they update first. For me the new lte modem sucks I went back to the old modem. It is more reliable.

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Depending on where u live ur tower by ur house can be old and not updated so it slower or it can be a borrowed tower. The one by ur job must be in a city which they update first. For me the new lte modem sucks I went back to the old modem. It is more reliable.
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Did you notice an improvement when you went back to the old modem?
What I don't understand is after the lte update, I was still getting good speeds till recently.
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Looks like none of my friends in my area have tmobile.
I'm still getting roughly 50kbps at home and 15mbps at work.. Smh
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I get horrible speeds as well and always have. I live in in a crowded area....Brooklyn, New York
Also, it's not like I'm underground or hidden from the outside world, I'm sitting right next to a window in a 6 story building. I've honestly had enough of t-mobile.. they always mess up my contract and have such ****ty speeds in my area. Not to mention, they directly lie to you over the phone and barely keep any promises. Oh and New York being one of the biggest cities isn't even one of the LTE cities that was upgraded. Sorry for this rant but I'm just kinda pissed with TMO.
Does anyone know if I can somehow check if my phone is set on the right antenna?

Mftek1 said:
Did you notice an improvement when you went back to the old modem?
What I don't understand is after the lte update, I was still getting good speeds till recently.
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Yes a big difference. I mostly use WiFi tho when out cause I have WiFi hot spots every place by me. But the lte modem is use less by me till lte is around here.

Use the old apn if you're having issues. There's already a thread on this. Search for it.
I have a feeling the new apn is speed limited so when lte fully rolls out the hspa network isn't overloaded. Most people don't notice a difference between 8mbps and 11mbps. Which was my difference. But if your difference is between 3-5mbps and 55kbps then it's probably a tower issue as well.
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GN2Rabbit said:
Use the old apn if you're having issues. There's already a thread on this. Search for it.
I have a feeling the new apn is speed limited so when lte fully rolls out the hspa network isn't overloaded. Most people don't notice a difference between 8mbps and 11mbps. Which was my difference. But if your difference is between 3-5mbps and 55kbps then it's probably a tower issue as well.
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Already tried the old apn in the other thread. No luck.
I'm thinking a tower issue, but I guess it's not? Tmobile contacted me today saying the towers around my area look good. So, there going to recheck since I get great data speeds everywhere else
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BACARDILIMON said:
Depending on where u live ur tower by ur house can be old and not updated so it slower or it can be a borrowed tower. The one by ur job must be in a city which they update first. For me the new lte modem sucks I went back to the old modem. It is more reliable.
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I wanted to go back to the old version 4.1.1, im not rooted and just updated via kies and noticed the slowness also. Any chance u could help how to revert to old version. Thanks
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jhobert said:
I wanted to go back to the old version 4.1.1, im not rooted and just updated via kies and noticed the slowness also. Any chance u could help how to revert to old version. Thanks
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Hey bro where bouts in Los Angeles do you stay? Cause I'm close to there. What kind of speeds do you get?
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jhobert said:
I wanted to go back to the old version 4.1.1, im not rooted and just updated via kies and noticed the slowness also. Any chance u could help how to revert to old version. Thanks
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Believe it or not but a easy way would be to root and then revert back to stock 4.1.1. It will get u back to normal u will just have to not update till they fix all the bugs

If you're in a refarmed market just manually select the 1900 band as AWS might be too crowded. I have to do the same when I'm at my house as on AWS I get 500kbps while on 1900 I get no less than 12mbps
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minhajmsd said:
If you're in a refarmed market just manually select the 1900 band as AWS might be too crowded. I have to do the same when I'm at my house as on AWS I get 500kbps while on 1900 I get no less than 12mbps
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How do I do this?
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Try add old tmobile apn and chose auto 4g/3g/2g they change data speed on mine.
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Mm

Yes. Because we don't change the modem, just switch back and forth apn if in the are have lte tower just switch to lte apn (the original one).
This just my experience though.
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Hey bro where bouts in Los Angeles do you stay? Cause I'm close to there. What kind of speeds do you get?
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Im mainly on LAX area, speeds varies but usually I get 18 to 20 now ita down to 10 and lower, even if I change the apn and not use lte same slow speed compared to the old radio.
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Mftek1 said:
How do I do this?
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Dial *#2263# and then under WCDMA choose the 1900 band.
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T-Mobile HSDPA maxes out at 8mbps

Doing recent speed tests on my Note II, I've noticed that on the download, they go no faster than 8mbps, in fact, they all now consistently hover around 8mbps in the best of scenarios. On lower signal, it is obviously lower, but my speedtests on HSPA+ are almost all perfectly around 8mbps give or take 5kbps. Is anyone else noticing this? Has T-Mobile realized it might not be the best idea to give everyone access to all the available bandwidth and instead is limiting everyone to 8mbps? That's actually pretty smart.. I'm locates in Virginia a beach and I've tested on several different cellsites. All the same download speed. Used to get as much as 27mbps.
LTE seems unaffected but it maxes out around 27mbps now, but LTE technically isn't official here (;

I think the fix is to change your apn back to the epc.tmobile that we used to have.
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But then won't I lose LTE?

Dr. Hax said:
But then won't I lose LTE?
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I'm not sure because I'm not in an lte market. I dont believe so, but I could be wrong.
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I think it has something to do with the LTE radio as my s3 would get into the 20's on HSPA, still does. I don't get higher than 15 mbps in my Note, same area and everything. I have yet to change apn settings to old one as anything over 8 is fine honestly. Still getting over 4 upload, so no worries.
I do think if you Change it and LTE comes to your area, change it back and should be there.
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kintwofan said:
I'm not sure because I'm not in an lte market. I dont believe so, but I could be wrong.
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I just tried the epc.tmobile.com apn and i still can get lte

So then would I edit the LTE APN, or just add a new one under epc and use that as primary.

Yup I have seen that today I though it was my area ...
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This isn't necessarily a bad thing. Except if T-Mobile is doing this intentionally, it's not very good for them to not make their customer base aware of this. Like I said, no single user needs access to as much of the bandwidth as the tower + spectrum permits, 8mbps down limit can guarantee equal QOS for everyone on HSDPA. But they really need to make a public announcement about it. And those LTE speeds aren't very good for a network in which no one else is using. But it will probably be better when LTE is official in our areas.

I get 8-14 in NYC.

Im in Dallas, TX and on my stock Note 2 i can get 10-15 megs down with 1-2 up in most places.
Thats with the fast.tmo apn. At least in my market they are not capping at 8megs down, thats if they are doing that at all.
Just ran a speed test at my desk and i got 14.18 down 1.4megs up..

15334kbps down, 3733kbps up here. No LTE.

Mnementh666 said:
15334kbps down, 3733kbps up here. No LTE.
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I get around 18891kbps down and 2270 up in Greeley, Colorado
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Why does my tmobile data and connection speed suck so bad?

I live in Hesperia, CA. Tmobile 4g network blows here. I just did a speed test and the testing app showed I had a 3g connection while the status bar icon showed it as 4g(screenie added) what's up with that is tmo lying to me? Saying I'm connected to 4g when I'm actually not... I never get above 200kbps during the day, at night I can get 1500kbps but that sucks too. I'm getting so frustrated I switched from metro and their network was better. I got 2500kbps from them.
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Flash a different modem bro.
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I guess you can go to the extreme of saying tmobile is lying to you, but in reality no they're not. "4g" just shows when data activity is happening. You are barely over edge speeds though. I would say try different radios and such and look at the map from this post and play around to see which will help you specifically. In the mean time put your phone to edge only so you stop wasting battery lol. [Baseband] ALL T999(V) Modems! w/ MAP and Data Tweaks!

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I guess you can go to the extreme of saying tmobile is lying to you
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They are misleading intentionally.

Start a big download and go to the dialer, input *#0011#. Take note of the band you are on (2 or 4) and which items have a 1 on them out of HSPA and HSDPA. If you are on band 2 and see a one next to either of those options, you can try forcing 1700 by using *#2263# and choosing it under WCDMA. This will cause you to lose service if you have poor 1700 coverage, particularly for voice calls but you can always set it back by going back to the main 2263 menu and hitting automatic.
If those don't work or you see zeroes have you gone into phone status to see if you have an IMEI? Because that will lock you to UMTS. Shortcut to find out - *#06#
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EtherealRemnant said:
Start a big download and go to the dialer, input *#0011#. Take note of the band you are on (2 or 4) and which items have a 1 on them out of HSPA and HSDPA. If you are on band 2 and see a one next to either of those options, you can try forcing 1700 by using *#2263# and choosing it under WCDMA. This will cause you to lose service if you have poor 1700 coverage, particularly for voice calls but you can always set it back by going back to the main 2263 menu and hitting automatic.
If those don't work or you see zeroes have you gone into phone status to see if you have an IMEI? Because that will lock you to UMTS. Shortcut to find out - *#06#
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I've tried this using *#0011# and I get an error. I put *#06# and it showed my IMEI yet I was unable to still use those two codes.
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jordeeeezy said:
I've tried this using *#0011# and I get an error. I put *#06# and it showed my IMEI yet I was unable to still use those two codes.
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I was assuming that you were on a TouchWiz ROM (these codes only work on the Samsung dialer) based on the fact that you had a 4G icon up there - if you're not on stock, there's not an easy way to troubleshoot. If you are on stock, you have to use the built in dialer, not a third party app.
Its worth the time to go to a TW ROM to try to troubleshoot it but if your IMEI came up fine then its less worth the hassle. Wish I could help you out more but it looks like you might be in a highly congested area on the network :/

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I was assuming that you were on a TouchWiz ROM (these codes only work on the Samsung dialer) based on the fact that you had a 4G icon up there - if you're not on stock, there's not an easy way to troubleshoot. If you are on stock, you have to use the built in dialer, not a third party app.
Its worth the time to go to a TW ROM to try to troubleshoot it but if your IMEI came up fine then its less worth the hassle. Wish I could help you out more but it looks like you might be in a highly congested area on the network :/
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my apologies. i was on liquidsmooth with uvmd5 and didnt understand why my download speeds were so slow so i wanted to check what this was all about. im currently switching between uvlja and uvli8 to see which modem works best in my area.

I was on uvlja when I started having the issues so I upgraded to uvmd5 and I am still having the problems. I'm not so sure anymore that the modems are the problem. I'm running DarthstalkerX2 I've been using these roms for quite a while but I've only been experiencing these issues for a couple of months.
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This is weird....
Evertime I try to post in the general thread, it shows up here!
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Figured it out...

I'm in the Fresno, CA area, and I've been running the UVDM5 modem for a few days. I noticed it has much slower upload speeds, while downloads are a little bit lower compared to the UVLJA

Ok everyone tmobile finally admitted to me that I am in a HORRIBLY BAD congested area of their network. No ETA on a fix either. I was given the option to return the phone cancel service and move on at no extra charge. I have until the 27th to make my decision. What should I do. Stay or go?
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racinmason001 said:
Ok everyone tmobile finally admitted to me that I am in a HORRIBLY BAD congested area of their network. No ETA on a fix either. I was given the option to return the phone cancel service and move on at no extra charge. I have until the 27th to make my decision. What should I do. Stay or go?
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If they are admitting it then it must be *REALLY* bad... If data speeds are more important than pricing to you, I say jump ship.

racinmason001 said:
Ok everyone tmobile finally admitted to me that I am in a HORRIBLY BAD congested area of their network. No ETA on a fix either. I was given the option to return the phone cancel service and move on at no extra charge. I have until the 27th to make my decision. What should I do. Stay or go?
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Wow! that is a rare thing indeed! Good luck on whatever you decide!
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racinmason001 said:
I live in Hesperia, CA. Tmobile 4g network blows here. I just did a speed test and the testing app showed I had a 3g connection while the status bar icon showed it as 4g(screenie added) what's up with that is tmo lying to me? Saying I'm connected to 4g when I'm actually not... I never get above 200kbps during the day, at night I can get 1500kbps but that sucks too. I'm getting so frustrated I switched from metro and their network was better. I got 2500kbps from them.
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T-Mo is not lying. You're still on their 4G network, but as someone mentioned, it's probably congested. Additionally, for most areas, T-Mo's 3G and 4G network is the exact same technology. If you're paying for the 4G service, they take the "speed limiter" off. Simple as that. Most likely a bad area of Cali for T-Mobile.
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Don_Perrignon said:
T-Mo is not lying. You're still on their 4G network, but as someone mentioned, it's probably congested. Additionally, for most areas, T-Mo's 3G and 4G network is the exact same technology. If you're paying for the 4G service, they take the "speed limiter" off. Simple as that. Most likely a bad area of Cali for T-Mobile.
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I'd like to see your sources for this because 3G UMTS, 3.5G HSDPA/HSUPA/HSPA+, and true 4G LTE are all different technologies. UMTS maxes out at 384Kbps, HSDPA ranges from 7 to 21Mbps, HSPA+ is up to 21Mbps but includes HSUPA for up to 5.76Mbps upload, and DC-HSPA+ is up to 42Mbps on the downlink with the same 5.76Mbps upload of standard HSPA+. 4G LTE can exceed 100Mbps.
While its true that they all operate off of wideband CDMA technology, they are NOT the same and require tower upgrades... T-Mobile does not discriminate based on your data plan. They discriminate based on your data usage compared to the plan you purchased and throttle you when you exceed what you paid for. Plain and simple.
Get your facts straight before you spout off nonsense.
EDIT: I am not aware if T-Mobile has deployed pico cells for UMTS anywhere but if they have, UMTS can go up to 2Mbps on a pico cell.

EtherealRemnant said:
I'd like to see your sources for this because 3G UMTS, 3.5G HSDPA/HSUPA/HSPA+, and true 4G LTE are all different technologies. UMTS maxes out at 384Kbps, HSDPA ranges from 7 to 21Mbps, HSPA+ is up to 21Mbps but includes HSUPA for up to 5.76Mbps upload, and DC-HSPA+ is up to 42Mbps on the downlink with the same 5.76Mbps upload of standard HSPA+. 4G LTE can exceed 100Mbps.
While its true that they all operate off of wideband CDMA technology, they are NOT the same and require tower upgrades... T-Mobile does not discriminate based on your data plan. They discriminate based on your data usage compared to the plan you purchased and throttle you when you exceed what you paid for. Plain and simple.
Get your facts straight before you spout off nonsense.
EDIT: I am not aware if T-Mobile has deployed pico cells for UMTS anywhere but if they have, UMTS can go up to 2Mbps on a pico cell.
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And, you're getting mad... for what? You need to chill. I have no idea why people get such superior attitudes when they correct someone.
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Don_Perrignon said:
And, you're getting mad... for what? You need to chill. I have no idea why people get such superior attitudes when they correct someone.
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Who said I was getting mad? You would know if I was. I'm just blunt.

EtherealRemnant said:
Who said I was getting mad? You would know if I was. I'm just blunt.
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And, honest about your misplaced superiority complex.
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