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[Q] Rooting question/advice

I have been unable to find a thread that discusses my issue. Samsung GS3/AT&T (SGH-i747) I have been using a stock ROM rooted until AT&T pushed an OTA update to 4.0.4 baseband I747UCLH9. Now Superuser logs show Superuser, Avast and ES Task Manager had root access accepted, but Titanium and another app (Root Checker) are being denied.
a. am I still rooted and just need to tweak something?
b. If i re-flash superuser will I be sorry?
I don't really want to flash a new ROM or wipe. Any advice including links and steps would be greatly appreciated.

Just a disclaimer: I am a noob to Android. Having said that, I also rooted my AT&T GS3 and then without even thinking accepted the OTA update. The update to UCHL9 build wiped my root. Again since I'm a noob, I spent hours reading through posts to figure out what happened. I finally found some good information in posts on this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
On page 110 of the thread there is a post by 'haywood' that I followed to root my device again. Of course, I did have to wipe and flash again which I understand you do not want to do.
Maybe reading through some more of the posts on that thread will lead you to a different method.

madge22 said:
Just a disclaimer: I am a noob to Android. Having said that, I also rooted my AT&T GS3 and then without even thinking accepted the OTA update. The update to UCHL9 build wiped my root. Again since I'm a noob, I spent hours reading through posts to figure out what happened. I finally found some good information in posts on this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
On page 110 of the thread there is a post by 'haywood' that I followed to root my device again. Of course, I did have to wipe and flash again which I understand you do not want to do.
Maybe reading through some more of the posts on that thread will lead you to a different method.
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lol I went looking for that post and ended up reading through 4 pages lol. Thanks for the tip, Just for future reference you can right click on the post number and copy url and paste it for a link to a specific post like so http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31816685&postcount=1100 as not everyone has the same setting for page display, your page 110 was my page 22 lol.

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NVWSSV said:
I have been unable to find a thread that discusses my issue. Samsung GS3/AT&T (SGH-i747) I have been using a stock ROM rooted until AT&T pushed an OTA update to 4.0.4 baseband I747UCLH9. Now Superuser logs show Superuser, Avast and ES Task Manager had root access accepted, but Titanium and another app (Root Checker) are being denied.
a. am I still rooted and just need to tweak something?
b. If i re-flash superuser will I be sorry?
I don't really want to flash a new ROM or wipe. Any advice including links and steps would be greatly appreciated.
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Some OTA updates will wipe out your root permissions. You can get around this using SuperSU or RootKeeper. With rootkeeper you just backup your root permissions, update via OTA, and then go back to Rootkeeper to restore root. Worked for me going from UCALG1 to UCLH9.

I have had a few different android devices that didn't want to give root to TB and a few other apps. I would suggest downloading SuperSU from the play store (it's free) and seeing if your TB will get root then. Definitely check in to an OTA rootkeeper so that it will back up your SU + busybox in the likely case that an OTA you try to install will wipe root. On that note, if you removed any bloat or system apps, the OTA's will fail. I think that also applies to build.prop and other system mods too, because trying to update my AT&T S3 has been a nightmare since I flashed stock rom w/ root injected and removed a few apps. I came to the conclusion that for me, it is much easier to just flash a custom ROM + kernel (I recommend Codename Android + Lean Kernel) via ClockworkMod Recovery and never worry about updates being pushed on me from the carrier. There are definitely more options that way, because YOU choose when you think it is worth it to update, but there is much more room for error, so do your research, and then do it again just to make sure!
I'm new to XDA, we have to start somewhere, right? :good:

rooted, flashed root66, now lost root

So I was rooted and running cynogenmod 10. I decided to go to root66 and I love it, but I noticed I no longer am rooted. I have supersu listed as an app but when I click on it it says "there is no SU binary installed and SuperSU cannot install it. This is a problem!"
I tried to boot into clockwordmod recovery and reflash it, but I know have stock android recovery. So I tried to download clockwordmod recovery through odin and it said pass but when I go into recovery it is still android recovery.
I d/l the toolkit but get an error using it.
I want to root to run wifi tether, what is the easiest way to get back root?

jongordo8 said:
So I was rooted and running cynogenmod 10. I decided to go to root66 and I love it, but I noticed I no longer am rooted. I have supersu listed as an app but when I click on it it says "there is no SU binary installed and SuperSU cannot install it. This is a problem!"
I tried to boot into clockwordmod recovery and reflash it, but I know have stock android recovery. So I tried to download clockwordmod recovery through odin and it said pass but when I go into recovery it is still android recovery.
I d/l the toolkit but get an error using it.
I want to root to run wifi tether, what is the easiest way to get back root?
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I'm pretty sure you shouldn't be posting here with this type of problem...I see your post count so I can kind of figure out why now...shoot me a PM and I'll help you out. In the meantime, a root66 should solve your problem...are you using Odin correctly?

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jongordo8 said:
So I was rooted and running cynogenmod 10. I decided to go to root66 and I love it, but I noticed I no longer am rooted. I have supersu listed as an app but when I click on it it says "there is no SU binary installed and SuperSU cannot install it. This is a problem!"
I tried to boot into clockwordmod recovery and reflash it, but I know have stock android recovery. So I tried to download clockwordmod recovery through odin and it said pass but when I go into recovery it is still android recovery.
I d/l the toolkit but get an error using it.
I want to root to run wifi tether, what is the easiest way to get back root?
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Try this:
First install a fresh copy of Superuser from the google play store. (free download)
Then install "TWRP recovery.
To install TWRP you need to install "GooManager" first which is a free download from the google play store.
Once installed, simply click the menu softkey on your phone and select "Install OpenRecoveryScript"
It's that easy.
Most likely you have a corrupted CWM in your phone which is missing files or some of the files in it are corrupt..
If GooManager pops up asking for root access and you allow it then TWRP recovery will fix your root issue I am sure.
Good Luck!

Why didn't you post this in the root66 thread? Wanting more eyes on your question is no excuse. This will be moved before sunset.....
Sent from the phalanges of my hand to the facet of your cranium.

LoopDoGG79 said:
Why didn't you post this in the root66 thread? Wanting more eyes on your question is no excuse. This will be moved before sunset.....
Sent from the phalanges of my hand to the facet of your cranium.
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Help me out here please,
I too post questions and hope to get answers to troubleshooting, as the OP did. Open the main page, and there is NO sub forum for root66 listed.
The OP needed an answer to his troubleshooting and thus posted it in Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting...
What is wrong, with that? Why does it have to be moved ? Is it NOT a question? Does the OP not need Help? Does the OP not have a question?
How is this query so different from others that is must be posted elsewhere, and Why?
It truly makes one hesitant on posting something and later not be able to find it because some almighty god has moved it..
I just don't understand. I must be wrong in thinking this was a forum one could seek to find help in a common interest. Trust me,
I am just totally confused. err... I couldn't find a confused sub forum to post this in. Sorry.

1) I want to know what error you got from the toolkit.
2) root66 comes with root access. It's kind of the whole point.
I don't know what you did to end up with the mess you have now, but here is how you fix it. You need to back up your data, and wipe everything. Then Odin root66 if that is what you want. Then if you want CWM, download the one from my signature. If you leave auto reboot checked in Odin, you need to drop to recovery mode before the phone boots (when Odin reboots it), because there is a script that will overwrite custom recoveries when the phone boots. When you exit CWM, it will tell you to disable the stock recovery. Just choose yes and done.

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bobolinko said:
Help me out here please,
I too post questions and hope to get answers to troubleshooting, as the OP did. Open the main page, and there is NO sub forum for root66 listed.
The OP needed an answer to his troubleshooting and thus posted it in Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting...
What is wrong, with that? Why does it have to be moved ? Is it NOT a question? Does the OP not need Help? Does the OP not have a question?
How is this query so different from others that is must be posted elsewhere, and Why?
It truly makes one hesitant on posting something and later not be able to find it because some almighty god has moved it..
I just don't understand. I must be wrong in thinking this was a forum one could seek to find help in a common interest. Trust me,
I am just totally confused. err... I couldn't find a confused sub forum to post this in. Sorry.
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Well for one thing there is a root66 forum here, check it out: [Firmware/OTAs] T999(V) Official, Leaked & Root66 FW & OTA Updates!
Good luck!

[Q] which recovery after root?

Howdy, I plan on rooting my tablet in a few days. The instructions say to root, then, flash stock recovery. Is flashing the stock recovery necessary if i plan on using goo to install twrp recovery prior to flashing cleanrom on my device?
Also, the cleanrom thread says to flash the appropriate version of twrp. Am I to assume the latest version on goo is the ticket for that?
Also, while the dev has indicated there will be further versions after 1.2, can I expect to simply download updates, or expect to flash new versions every time? I guess this particular question doesn't really matter I'm just interested.
And finally, has anybody used heimdall with any success with the p600? Google says no...
I would have posted this on the clean rom thread but was not allowed since I have not had enough posts yet. moving this to there would not hurt my feelings.
I appreciate any and all help and of course feel appreciation and give thanks to the developers who have put in such great effort. Thank you.

sleekmason said:
Howdy, I plan on rooting my tablet in a few days. The instructions say to root, then, flash stock recovery. Is flashing the stock recovery necessary if i plan on using goo to install twrp recovery prior to flashing cleanrom on my device?
Also, the cleanrom thread says to flash the appropriate version of twrp. Am I to assume the latest version on goo is the ticket for that?
Also, while the dev has indicated there will be further versions after 1.2, can I expect to simply download updates, or expect to flash new versions every time? I guess this particular question doesn't really matter I'm just interested.
And finally, has anybody used heimdall with any success with the p600? Google says no...
I would have posted this on the clean rom thread but was not allowed since I have not had enough posts yet. moving this to there would not hurt my feelings.
I appreciate any and all help and of course feel appreciation and give thanks to the developers who have put in such great effort. Thank you.
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That's a lot questions! Lol.... here's two answers:
If you want to flash CleanRom, then you don't need to root your stock rom, just use Odin to flash TWRP and that will either let you install CleanRom or let you install SuperSU (root). You can the recovery from their website.
I'm on the P600 and the goomanager didn't install the recovery correctly, so I had to flash with odin.
I don't know about Heimdal. Good luck on your ten posts
Sent from my SM-P600

Odin eh?
grmcrkrs said:
That's a lot questions! Lol.... here's two answers:
If you want to flash CleanRom, then you don't need to root your stock rom, just use Odin to flash TWRP and that will either let you install CleanRom or let you install SuperSU (root). You can the recovery from their website.
I'm on the P600 and the goomanager didn't install the recovery correctly, so I had to flash with odin.
I don't know about Heimdal. Good luck on your ten posts
Sent from my SM-P600
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My understanding is that root is neccesary to flash twrp. If that is not the case, they why use Odin at all?
Heimdall is a program reverse engineered to work on Samsung devices. Potentially more stable than odin. Open source. I use a linux box but will have access to a windows box in a week or so.

supersu
Furthermore, for verification, super su does not root your device, it only manages the permissions of those programs that need root access. Can somebody else chime in for verification?

sleekmason said:
Furthermore, for verification, super su does not root your device, it only manages the permissions of those programs that need root access. Can somebody else chime in for verification?
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No, you CAN flash recovery without rooting, and if your not rooted then TWRP asks if you'd like to install SuperSU and root that way. I guess you don't have to believe me though
Sent from my SM-P600

grmcrkrs said:
No, you CAN flash recovery without rooting, and if your not rooted then TWRP asks if you'd like to install SuperSU and root that way. I guess you don't have to believe me though
Sent from my SM-P600
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that sounds great but doesn't TWRP need root in order to be installed? my understanding is yes. If not I should be able to install it using Goo manager. from what I've read the developers for GooManager are very serious and would not allow a non working application to remain in their program.

sleekmason said:
Howdy, I plan on rooting my tablet in a few days. The instructions say to root, then, flash stock recovery. Is flashing the stock recovery necessary if i plan on using goo to install twrp recovery prior to flashing cleanrom on my device?
Also, the cleanrom thread says to flash the appropriate version of twrp. Am I to assume the latest version on goo is the ticket for that?
Also, while the dev has indicated there will be further versions after 1.2, can I expect to simply download updates, or expect to flash new versions every time? I guess this particular question doesn't really matter I'm just interested.
And finally, has anybody used heimdall with any success with the p600? Google says no...
I would have posted this on the clean rom thread but was not allowed since I have not had enough posts yet. moving this to there would not hurt my feelings.
I appreciate any and all help and of course feel appreciation and give thanks to the developers who have put in such great effort. Thank you.
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You wont need to root if your intent is to just flash my ROM.
Appropriate version would be 2.6.3.3
As far as updates / patches... Depends on the issue. Mostly do full updates if something changes. If its a bug fix then I would just do a patch.
Hemidall? No, never tried it.
Basically to flash a custom ROM you just need to flash TWRP using Odin then flash the ROM using TWRP.
You dont techincally need to root unless you want to stay stock and have root. But that is no fun!
Also, the goo.im app does not work with this device so you have to use Odin manually (for simplicity).
Hope this helps!

sleekmason said:
that sounds great but doesn't TWRP need root in order to be installed? my understanding is yes. If not I should be able to install it using Goo manager. from what I've read the developers for GooManager are very serious and would not allow a non working application to remain in their program.
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I read the TWRP thread, and others are having problems installing through goomanager. I also wanted to install it that way, but it wouldn't work. But it didnt work. It also wouldn't flash through the stock recovery. Hence, odin.
Sent from my SM-P600

thank you for the clarification! in order to flash TWRP in Odin do I simply use the AP slot as you would to flash autoroot by their directions?
one of the things thats tripped me up is that on the TWR P site as well as in Google Play it says you must have a rooted device. This would suggest that in order to get TWRP on your device it would already have to be rooted. it seems strange to me that the tablet will allow odin to install it on a non rooted device.
hoops I guess. So being a non Windows user, that is not familiar with the Windows operating system,( bet you don't hear that everyday) ,I would suppose the order would go something like this.
1 download Samsung drivers from kies.1
2. Download TWRP from site for odin.
3. Open odin.
4. go to download mode on device.
5. Plugin device and wait for it to be recognized.
6. Drag the Twrp zip for odin to the AP slot, enter,
7. Wait for it to .......?
8. Reboot.
9 download the cleanrom rom.
10. Reboot into recovery
11. Installcleanrom
12 enjoy.
a couple of other questions concerning the SD card. Should I leave it in during any or all of these processes? I've seen where other people have had problems with their SD card not being read is this due to it not being installed when they install clean rom? I really do appreciate all the help.
not breaking my device by doing something stupid is paramount. Lol! as I will be using my daughters computer any other information regarding the installation of the Samsung drivers or Odin would be much appreciated I do not want to hurt her computer.

I kept my SD card installed while flashing TWRP in Odin and had no problems. If you're worried then take it out. As far as Odin goes... run it as an admin and after connecting your Note (in DL mode) just click on "AP" and navigate to the directory where you saved the TWRP file. From there just hit "start" and your good to go. Odin isn't gonna mess anything up on your daughters pc and if you have a copy of the stock recovery just reflash it if you run into problems with TWRP. Also, read through all the different threads/watch YouTube videos. Most of this has been covered many times over and you can see what success or problems others have had.

Trying to root, have no idea what I'm doing.

Alright so I was rooted, but now there's been at least one new version of Android, so I need to do it again and update. I am confused as to how this whole thing works. I used to have an iPod touch which I jailbroke, and you could update the firmware simply by jailbreaking with a jailbroken version of the newer OS. Does Android work in a similar fashion with rooting, in which when you flash the ROM (am I saying this right?), it is a different Android version? So can I just find a ROM that's 4.3 to update, or should I update to 4.3 over the air and then root again? I actually already did the OTA update because it was really bothering me and currently I don't even use root features frequently. Anyway, the no-flash trip link in the how to root section says 4.1.1, which I assume means Android 4.1.1, and I don't want this. What can I do?
If I get a current version of a custom ROM, LiquidSmooth or something, will that update my Android version?
I'm sorry if I'm making zero sense right now, or if this is in entirely the wrong section. I'm trying my best here.

You're on stock ? If so what version,4.3?

FYI this isn't the right place to post this. But check out THIS thread about Preparing to flash an ND8 (kitkat) rom. It is short, very informative and has important links to other things you may need. Good luck!
~CTP

Nexus11 said:
You're on stock ? If so what version,4.3?
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Indeed.

Azhai said:
Indeed.
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I will help U but you take full responsibility for anything that may happen to your device in the process.
It seems like U are still rooted, but but just on MK3 still. This will upgrade U to ND8
Here goes:
#1 Install Odin on your PC, run the program. (Link to Odin 3.07. LINK for ODINClick link and it will automatically download to system) Extract from ZIP
#2 Load the ND8 tar in the PDA Slot, put your phone in Download Mode (power off, hold Vol Down, Home, and Power), and connect your phone to the PC. (leave check in the Auto-Reboot and F-Reset)
#3 Then after that is successful run CF Auto Root LINK CF-AUTO ROOT This down load must be extracted and U will see Odin application in there too along with CF-Auto tar
#3b (I didn't do this because I don't really care, but if U want) get ROM Toolbox or something of that nature and remove any app with Knox in the title or that has the Knox symbol.
#4 Load your phone into Download Mode one last time and then put whatever recovery you have (I use Philz, make sure you grab the .tar format instead of the zip) and put that in the Bootloader slot in Odin. U will then be rooted and custom recovery.. U can stay there and set up phone or flash a custom ROM. I would do a nandroid back-up in philz first before U flash a new ROM though.
Link to PhilZ 6.416 Tar DIRECT LINK I use this one because it WORKS with no issues
or U can go here and get other versions of Philz. LINK
This guide was originally posted by Bilgerryan (below) and I augmented a few things and added links so U wouldn't have to search and search.
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Originally Posted by bilgerryan
Install Odin on your PC, run the program. Load the ND8 tar in the PDA Slot, put your phone in Download Mode (power off, hold Vol Down, Home, and Power), and connect your phone to the PC. Then after that is successful run CF Auto Root or whatever root injector you have in the PDA slot again. Once that finishes (wait until Odin tells you it was a Success before doing anything), get ROM Toolbox or something of that nature and remove any app with Knox in the title or that has the Knox symbol. Load your phone into Download Mode one last time and then put whatever recovery you have (I use Philz, make sure you grab the .tar format instead of the zip) and put that in the Bootloader slot in Odin. Then you're good to go, rooted and custom recovery, sky's the limit.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2738533&page=51

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Glad that answers are coming in, but this thread needs to be moved; @KennyG123, can you assist?

What in the blue hell????!! A question in Development?!!!
Please read forum rules before posting. Rule 15 will help you decide where your post needs to go.
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Thanks for the move. Reading is hard.
So can someone just clear up the whole version thing for me? I attempted to do the 4.4 OTA update that showed up, and it seems to have worked in the sense that the notification went away, but my version is the same (4.3) and I seem to still be rooted. I guess I really don't understand any of the rooting process. I know I've used Odin and stuff but I really don't know what any of it does. Is there already a thread somewhere that explains what all of this stuff actually does? I mean, updating and staying rooted can't be that hard to do.

Azhai said:
Thanks for the move. Reading is hard.
So can someone just clear up the whole version thing for me? I attempted to do the 4.4 OTA update that showed up, and it seems to have worked in the sense that the notification went away, but my version is the same (4.3) and I seem to still be rooted. I guess I really don't understand any of the rooting process. I know I've used Odin and stuff but I really don't know what any of it does. Is there already a thread somewhere that explains what all of this stuff actually does? I mean, updating and staying rooted can't be that hard to do.
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Attempts to take an OTA on a rooted phone should fail. There is already a thread, chad the pathfinder gave u the link...
Sent from my SPH-L710, using Tapatalk 2 Cyan. ND8. Rooted and rom'd with WICKED-X (HELLS YA!)

Which twrp do i use

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model-SM-N900T
android version-5.0
build number- LXR2 lV.N900TUVSFPH3
my phone has never been rooted and is totally stock lollipop.
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I ave been looking on your site for a couple of weeks to learn how to determine the model of my note 3. here are the specs.
model-SM-N900T
android version-5.0
build number- LXR2 lV.N900TUVSFPH3
my phone has never been rooted and is totally stock lollipop.
i want to install TWRP but my model is not listed can someone point me in the right direction?​
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You need to root before you install TWRP. Be sure to root with CF-Auto-Root. After that, you can find TWRP for your device here: https://dl.twrp.me/hlte/​

Thank you very much. Now do I root through oden or by memery card?

bb031577 said:
Thank you very much. Now do I root through oden or by memery card?
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To flash with CF-Autoroot, you flash it with Odin. You can find detailed instructions on how to root here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2672393
You can skip the first step and just follow the steps on how to flash with CF-Autoroot and how to flash TWRP
Follow instructions carefully
Good luck!

Root is not required to flash TWRP. You can flash TWRP from Odin and then flash supersu from TWRP to root the phone.
Rooting with cfautoroot will not install a custom recovery.

ShaDisNX255 said:
To flash with CF-Autoroot, you flash it with Odin. You can find detailed instructions on how to root here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2672393
You can skip the first step and just follow the steps on how to flash with CF-Autoroot and how to flash TWRP
Follow instructions carefully
Good luck!
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cf-autoroot will not install. i get error message, wrong_dev. i followed instuctions to exact.

bb031577 said:
cf-autoroot will not install. i get error message, wrong_dev. i followed instuctions to exact.
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Be sure to have downloaded the correct cf-autoroot for N900T. Should be named something like this: "CF-Auto-Root-hltetmo-hltetmo-smn900t"

Thank you for the help you have been giving me. I was able to root my phone once I got the correct file. I have also installed twrp . Now I just need to find a good ROM to mess around with.

bb031577 said:
Thank you for the help you have been giving me. I was able to root my phone once I got the correct file. I have also installed twrp . Now I just need to find a good ROM to mess around with.
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Glad to help. There are pretty good ROMs out there. I would suggest getting a Note7 port, since not only you get a newer version of Android, you get the very specific Note features which are awesome! Happy flashing!