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Will we really need another phone for the next three years?

I was running system monitor this morning while I played real racing 3 and I noticed the cpu usage was extremely low at only 30% of the phone's processing power was being used. I guess it depends on how much gpu power we will need for games in the near future but I'm sure the cpu we have will be good enough for years to come.
While racing this usage remained the same.
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Guess that we will have to wait and see how the phone handles the next android version to say for sure. But this is good to know that even higher end games are not coming close to bogging this phone down.
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I could see myself with this phone over the next 3 years. the original Galaxy S Captivate I bought was slow from the get go. The Note 2 so far has met/exceeded my expectations in terms of performance. But who knows, only time will tell.

Well, now that we know that the Note 8's stylus works on the capacitive buttons that alone will make me switch to the Note 3 (For sure it'll also support that).

I guess some software improvement would useful. It will take more than that to get me to switch tho. .. I live in Toronto so the glove mode would interest me. But if the improvements on the note 3 are mostly on processing power etc I won't be moved.
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I've been thinking the same thing. This device is so powerful that I believe in two years time when I'm due for an upgrade I may pass for another year or so. Samsung really knocked it out of the park with this one.

We will also have dual boot at some point... This phone (Note 2) in my opinion is the Next HTC HD2... Hard to kill for years to come... And the success of the Note 2 is pretty much due to the fact that virtually every carrier has it... Same thing happened to the HD2 years ago...and both are "revolutionary" phones a bit ahead of its time...
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No real reason to upgrade from this device for 2 years. At least for me.
This phone/tablet combo is powerful and well running.
Good work Samsung....g

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We will also have dual boot at some point... This phone (Note 2) in my opinion is the Next HTC HD2... Hard to kill for years to come... And the success of the Note 2 is pretty much due to the fact that virtually every carrier has it... Same thing happened to the HD2 years ago...and both are "revolutionary" phones a bit ahead of its time...
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Wasn't the HD2 only on T-Mo?
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Cant wait for note 3
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Cant wait for note 3
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Yes you are.
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The GPU in this device is however extremely weak and outdated, it is tech from the Galaxy S II.

Yeah, the GPU is probably where it's going to lag behind... though that might not really be an issue within three years. A lot of mobile games barely push what these chips can do.
With that said... we'll see. I'd honestly prefer an A15 processor with a beefier GPU, but at the end of the day my Note 2 runs like a champ. So long as it continues to do so I'm not so sure I'd want to upgrade quickly.

Expecting the note3 to follow in the footsteps of Apple and HTC with what appears to be a better external appearance. Otherwise I am jumping ship probably to HTC unless the HTC One turns out to be a flop. I am already tired of my phone creaking every time it gets twisted or pressure is applied almost anywhere. Off of that alone I will be looking for a new one in the next year. The internals I probably would be content with for probably 2 more years till I feel I would need to replace it due to new software.

Picked mine up day one and likely will be the first device I keep more than a year. I usually change phones every 6 months but I'm in no rush to upgrade. Might make it two years might not but this device has been the first to exceed my expectations.

There's always going to be something new we didn't knew we wanted until it was shown. That said, while our phone runs some high end games, those Tegra 4 titles look promising...

Prolly won't need one but I will upgrade anyhow because I am paying for postpaid plan anyhow.

For games maybe not. But for some new features maybe yes.
real driving force to push phone hardware level right now is android system itself. The better the sleeker, the higher the more functionality, noticed right now we have multiwin supported, based on the fact we don't have the same calculation power in par with x86 counterparts so more cores also means more parallel running powers which providing possible to get your phone into a real working machine.
So I think we might really need one if big G really push the way this direction.

I'm not switching until the next Note is a lot slimmer, with bigger battery and edge to edge screen.

I'm definitely holding to my note 2 until my contract expires in 1.7 years. Specs are still great (other than gpu which is only ok), and expected lime pie will breathe some new life when the time comes. But I do admit that if money was no obstacle, I would get note 3 on day 1 not because I need it, but because my geeky side calls for it

Wich is the Best tablet option to use with my SGN2?

My firends, I'm thinking that I really need a tablet to complement my SGN2. I don't want to close any option before I hear from you. I'm an advance user, and I'm looking for something that really gives me more that my sgn2. I used to have an iPad I sold it because only my children were using it to play around, but since the anounncement that office 365 was out in USA, I'm thinking to get me an iPad mini. Another choice might be an w8 tablet, since I want it only to get my job done (lots of reports and presentation, microsoft dominates my working environment). I was thinking also to let go my SGN2, get an HTC one and buy a note 10'. What do you think?? Please help me out here.
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My firends, I'm thinking that I really need a tablet to complement my SGN2. I don't want to close any option before I hear from you. I'm an advance user, and I'm looking for something that really gives me more that my sgn2. I used to have an iPad I sold it because only my children were using it to play around, but since the anounncement that office 365 was out in USA, I'm thinking to get me an iPad mini. Another choice might be an w8 tablet, since I want it only to get my job done (lots of reports and presentation, microsoft dominates my working environment). I was thinking also to let go my SGN2, get an HTC one and buy a note 10'. What do you think?? Please help me out here.
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I have been wondering same thing, as I don't want smaller than 10" tablet with my 5,5" phone, also I've been thinking about W8, because would it be slightly stupid to have android tablet with Note 2?
Can't you do everything as with android tablet with your Note 2?
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The thing that Ireally would love to do but I can't are working with powerpoint presentation and advance spread sheets from excell. That's a very down side for android OS. I also work with mindmaps but is very hard to do it right on my sgn2.
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I would honestly go with the iPad, despite what "some" people might say.
You already have an Android phone so you can get best of both worlds if you get an iPad. Similarily, it is hard arguing against the fact that iOS has a slightly better standard of apps than Android and is streets ahead on WP8 (which i actually quite like). Also, more apps are designed specifically for the tablet and you will get the benefits of this.
Therefore, despite how good something like the Nexus 7 and 10 may be, I would definately be more inclined to get an iPad if I ever decided to venture into the tablet world.

Yeah, I see your point. I was thinking w8, but I don't know if it is up to the challenge, and also creating a new account and buy all the software that I need again it just doesn't seems right
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lauchon said:
Yeah, I see your point. I was thinking w8, but I don't know if it is up to the challenge, and also creating a new account and buy all the software that I need again it just doesn't seems right
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From my experience I like having Android tablets (a Galaxy 10.1 and an Asus EeeTab) to compliment my Android phone- lots of nice sync-ing between the two from factors is good to have. I also have a w8 RT tablet that gives me all the sync-ing between my PC's (both business and personal). I do have some cross-sync between my Androids and my w8 worlds with Lync and office using sky drive.
I've made a personal choice not to have any Apple in my tech Universe... I simply don't find it very appealing... Same goes for a windows based phone. But anyway, that's the spread that works for my wordl... both all Android and windows 8 based tech.
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How you w8 tablet behave with your work requirements?, does it has a good choice to use it office documents vewing and editing??
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lauchon said:
How you w8 tablet behave with your work requirements?, does it has a good choice to use it office documents vewing and editing??
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I found it works fairly well, given of course the smaller screen size. I have the touch (the one with the raised keys) keypad that I can type really well with, plus having a full usb port I can attach a real mouse. Of course the big thing for me will be when windows blue comes to the RT tablet- this is promised to give full outlook. The native mail app is ok, but it's not outlook. Windows blue is due out in the next few months, so this should make my w8 tablet even better. As far as the other office apps, these are like the PC versions and come pre-installed on the RT. Of course, with office 365, web office apps are a possibility as long as you are connected.
Then there is the windows 8 pro tablet that is available now... this is full pc... not really sure it's worth the extra $$$ since the rt does what I like... super mobile, long battery life, inter-connected with the work life, etc. Until Office comes out for Android, I don't know that I can fully switch to the Android platform for my entire mobile life.
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Just an idea, but why not a note 2 with blutletooth mouse and keybord hooked to a monitor via mhl running teamviewer to control a real pc from remote. Or keep the note 2 and buy a 10in tablet and do the same as above?
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It's a good idea, but you'll have to carry all that with you. And I don't see myself leiying dow on my bed with all that, my wife will just kik me out of bed.
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I know exactly what you people need, wait for the samsung ativ q tablet it is bigger than 10 inches and has windows 8 and stock Android (dualboot). I am personally getting it as soon it hits the market
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It may not be to your liking however I have a samsung galaxy note 10.1" and it's been really great.

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It's a good idea, but you'll have to carry all that with you. And I don't see myself leiying dow on my bed with all that, my wife will just kik me out of bed.
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Just an idea, but why not a note 2 with blutletooth mouse and keybord hooked to a monitor via mhl running teamviewer to control a real pc from remote. Or keep the note 2 and buy a 10in tablet and do the same as above?
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One must always consider the possibilities... and indeed RDP into a remote PC... yes doable... then there's those Office Web Apps... but like lauchon... I was thinking about a single smaller than a PC larger than a cell phone device.... and the thought of carry all of that to my Starbucks - I hate lugging the laptop about... so a tablet is my ideal device foot-print. and the Surface tablets fit the bill for me... the touch pad is light and has a mouse area built-in... so a single device can be done... when you don't need the full keyboard and mouse.... like in the bed... you have the touch screen...

Today I saw this articule, what do you think??
http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-ativ-tab-3-hands-on-galaxy-form-empowered-for-windows-8-20287327/

I Always felt that tablets were useless, but i needed an office compatible device and I decided to go with the Acer iconia w7 .
It has changed my life. Great battery life (up to 6/7 hrs At minimum brightness) good performance (i have the i3 versione) and really awesome full hd display.
It also has Windows 8 pro, so I have a real pc in a really small form factor.
I bought mine for 450 euros, ir was used for one month and actually i was Lucky since it was like new
Give it a try if you can, no office suite on android is able to be a good substitute for office 2013

Did you try CloudOn app ? It might be enough for your MS Office needs (couples with an android tabler or iPad)

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Did you try CloudOn app ? It might be enough for your MS Office needs (couples with an android tabler or iPad)
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I'll give it a try!! thanks

I don't know if you made your mind already. But I must advise you to buy the iPad mini (32gb with cellular).
I played with lots of tablets in my work and I'm telling you, no tablet came near to the qualities of iPad mini.
It's perfect for writing with both hands, very fast, has beautiful screen.
I wanted to buy an android tablet, but when I played with iPad mini, I changed my mind

I compliment mine with a Note 8.0, I do use it for mind mapping but not for spread sheets so I can't comment in those
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Surface pro maybe.
What's better with a phone/tablet hybrid than a tablet/PC hybrid

[Q] Coming from a galaxy nexus

I have a galaxy nexus and I am looking to upgrade to note 2 mainly for the big screen and faster core.I would like to ask some questions from those who have upgraded to this phone from gnex which I have been wondering for some time:
- Is it an upgrade or not?
- How has been your experience so far with the gNote?
- Is the huge screen size a hassle or was it easy to adapt.Do you miss the GNex because this was way too big or not.
- How is touchwiz.I really really like the smoothness and look of stock android,so does touchwiz deliver,is it fast like stock?
- I already use my both hands to type in gnex,but I surf the net one handed in portrait mode.So can I one hand browse on note 2 as well?

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I have a galaxy nexus and I am looking to upgrade to note 2 mainly for the big screen and faster core.I would like to ask some questions from those who have upgraded to this phone from gnex which I have been wondering for some time:
- Is it an upgrade or not?
- How has been your experience so far with the gNote?
- Is the huge screen size a hassle or was it easy to adapt.Do you miss the GNex because this was way too big or not.
- How is touchwiz.I really really like the smoothness and look of stock android,so does touchwiz deliver,is it fast like stock?
- I already use my both hands to type in gnex,but I surf the net one handed in portrait mode.So can I one hand browse on note 2 as well?
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Definitely an upgrade in every aspect. .....
Touchwiz is smooth....my ph never lags....yes....for a tiny bit here and there.....and thats normal with every ph...even s4 or OG pro.....
Note is awsm.....very practical ph but not made for single hand use...ive already dropped it once.....
Verdict: if possible get a note 3 .....or else buy note 2 with your eyes closed if single handed use does not bothers you

The note2 is amazingly fast and if you install Nova launcher, you get rid of the Touchwiz user experience, but all the extra "note goodies" remain. There are tons of ways to enhance your note2, just like any other Android phone *and* the Nexus series... If you have the money though, go for the Note3.
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Well money is an issue so I cant get the note 3.I understand its an upgrade to note2 but i cant buy.
I intend to get it in the next week or so.
Gnex doesnt lag even for a little bit,but then again i dont use many apps on it.So I guess the Gnote will be the same

I just got my note 2 and its friggin awesome!!
I m still checking out all the features and loving the screen
There is just a small problem of extreme slow playstore downloads

Experience over time shown quite some variation in download speeds of the play store. I should not worry too much. Maybe your Wifi connection is a bit weak or the frequency band it's configured on is rather crowded there? You can try Wifi Manager to find out and that can help you with more Wifi related stuff too. ..
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Experience over time shown quite some variation in download speeds of the play store. I should not worry too much. Maybe your Wifi connection is a bit weak or the frequency band it's configured on is rather crowded there? You can try Wifi Manager to find out and that can help you with more Wifi related stuff too. ..
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Thanks for the reply.I just downloaded and installed updated play store apk which fixed it

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I just got my note 2 and its friggin awesome!!
I m still checking out all the features and loving the screen
There is just a small problem of extreme slow playstore downloads
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Welcome to the club mate. Make sure you use the S-pen to the fullest so you get the REAL NOTE EXPERIENCE:good:
And I'd also suggest Nova Launcher coz it has more options in terms of customization even though you'd lose Page Buddy.

Buy this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/White-PU-Le...d=100033&prg=1011&rk=1&rkt=4&sd=121001283707&
And you dont have to be worried for dropping it so easy... The back cover on the Note 2 (and all the others in this series) is so incredible slippery...

I had a galaxy nexus for two years and a couple months ago i upgraded to the Galaxy note 2 and let me tell you, It is SO MUCH BETTER in every possible way. Screen is better, touchwiz is snappy ( i was skeptical about the touchwiz), and the spen has changed the way I use my phone. Also has an sdcard slot which is a huge bonus. Battery life is night and day. I had to charge my nex twice a day every day, with this phone, I could make it go 48 hours if I reeeeeaaally wanted to, it's crazy. Def an upgrade! Do it.

Since most has been said. Im going to tell you something quick.
The biggest improvements that made me 'wow' are:
-app switching (almost always doesn't kill apps in the bg for faster multi-tasking)
-battery life is god-like. 6 hours of screen on time with 20 hours unplugged on hsdpa+ all day. And it also charges quickly.
- I switched to nova launcher and it's so much cleaner.
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been away from Android a while, question note 2

Got the opportunity to swap my Iphone 5 for a galaxy Note 2, have owned a note 2 briefly before, but been using iphones for so long I thought id pop into PCworld and have a play on a note 2 again...alas it was terribly laggy, love the screen, a bit lower res than some of the new beasts out there, but still looks fine, quite fancy doing the trade, only the lag on the tester device was awful, could there have been something wrong with it, im not compare Ios with android, so lets not start that game, just would like to know if the device suffers like some of the older android devices

No man note 2 is ligtning fast its not old device lol.
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Shouldn't be laggy at all. Do a factory reset and see if that helps. I am over 90% sure that t will.

the Note 2 is lightning fast in my experience IF the software is up-to-date (the original firmware was a bit laggy for me but that lag disappeared with 4.1.2.
Could also be a device on display with people playing around and no reboot in weeks of course....

Depends on when you experience lag. In general, there shouldn't be any. There is however a slight input lag, and some of the touchwiz apps aren't well optimised at all, ie s note.
Actions like opening the dialer, gallery or contacts might not be instant (about the only thing that was actually better with gingerbread...), these also depend on the size of your database, meaning amount of contacts and pictures for instance.
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No lag on mine either, just got it back from Samsung after a screen repair.
Of course, if you go back to your iphone and update to iOS 7 it'll feel a lot more android-y than ever before. My wife has an iPhone 5, I have a Note 2. I can't even read her screen it's so tiny but my phone is certainly not slow or laggy compared to hers.

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Got the opportunity to swap my Iphone 5 for a galaxy Note 2, have owned a note 2 briefly before, but been using iphones for so long I thought id pop into PCworld and have a play on a note 2 again...alas it was terribly laggy, love the screen, a bit lower res than some of the new beasts out there, but still looks fine, quite fancy doing the trade, only the lag on the tester device was awful, could there have been something wrong with it, im not compare Ios with android, so lets not start that game, just would like to know if the device suffers like some of the older android devices
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well if u are stock get a factory reset, or wipe data ,cache and dalvik see if it solves .
Fear that if u have a original one and not 100% clone

Theres a small lag pressing home due to a wait period to see if you are double tapping to get svoice up. I think this can be disabled though.
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Theres a small lag pressing home due to a wait period to see if you are double tapping to get svoice up. I think this can be disabled though.
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Correct and yes it can.
There should be no lag on a note 2.
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Did anyone actually bother to read the OP?
He tried a Note 2 in PC World - that's the store demo unit. Mauled by hundreds of people each day.
That it lags is not surprising, it's amazing that it runs at all.
OP - store demo units tend to get interfered with by all the potential customers who start all the programs and then walk off. You cannot judge a unit based on an in-store one.

Agreed and lije the op asked.
No this device is not like other older Android devices it doesn't suffer from lag.
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Crazy lack of performance

I went into the Apple store the other day to play with the new iPad mini and tested out a game called raven sword. I remember thinking the graphics were pretty good so I bought the same game for my new note 10.1 when I got home. Immediately I noticed the graphics were no where near as good. Do I restarted the tablet and made sure all other apps were closed. I remember a thread here about asphalt also not allowing high performance for some people on this tablet. Sure enough I tried that game too and the high performance aren't even options. Making sure it wasn't just android in general I installed ravensword on my note 2 phone which has been on for days and has a ton of other apps open including two browsers with a ton of tabs.. the game ran flawlessly and looked the same as it did on the iPad. What the hell is going on here.. someone please let me know what might be throttling my note 10.1 2014 so much. I really like it and nothing can match the pen input but this really isn't okay.
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I went into the Apple store the other day to play with the new iPad mini and tested out a game called raven sword. I remember thinking the graphics were pretty good so I bought the same game for my new note 10.1 when I got home. Immediately I noticed the graphics were no where near as good. Do I restarted the tablet and made sure all other apps were closed. I remember a thread here about asphalt also not allowing high performance for some people on this tablet. Sure enough I tried that game too and the high performance aren't even options. Making sure it wasn't just android in general I installed ravensword on my note 2 phone which has been on for days and has a ton of other apps open including two browsers with a ton of tabs.. the game ran flawlessly and looked the same as it did on the iPad. What the hell is going on here.. someone please let me know what might be throttling my note 10.1 2014 so much. I really like it and nothing can match the pen input but this really isn't okay.
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Most likely the games arent optimized. It is a new device so it could take some time
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Hey thanks for the quick response.. I thought the same myself so I waited a couple weeks then I saw this post where someone shows theirs with the high graphics performance options. Now I'm thinking it must be something wrong with mine. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47889956
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Yeah thats true. He owns the LTE variant with the snapdragon SoC (p605). I'm running the wifi only model (p600) and I am not able to choose high graphics in asphalt 8. I dont think there is something wrong with our devices. Developers didnt know how good the performance of the new exynos processor woud be... so they just prevented problems by making the graphics worse and the gameplay fluid
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Ahh ok, I see what you're saying. So is it safe to assume the note 3 with the exynos is having the same issues? Crazy considering its been out for months. If this is the case I guess I feel better at least knowing it's not the actual device.
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I cant guarantee it but i guess things will become better in 1 or 2 month when the device gets more attention or a few custom roms. My S4 wasnt perfect at the start but now it is a beast
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We don't have to blame Samsung but the App developers which still live (a) in a Apple world or (b) in the 80ies because they still didn't learn how to write Apps for Android in a proper way.
And because I also buy this game and write a mail to the developers, you maybe also should do it.
And in general this seems still to be normal that we have to wait until some Apps are "fixed" for this device. I have this also with my first Android tablet which was by most Apps recognized as a phone and later with the HTC One X where many games didn't work at the beginning. But I didn't expect that this "problem" still exists.
So, we have to wait and inform in-between the developers when a App didn't work correct.

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We don't have to blame Samsung but the App developers which still live (a) in a Apple world or (b) in the 80ies because they still didn't learn how to write Apps for Android in a proper way.
And because I also buy this game and write a mail to the developers, you maybe also should do it.
And in general this seems still to be normal that we have to wait until some Apps are "fixed" for this device. I have this also with my first Android tablet which was by most Apps recognized as a phone and later with the HTC One X where many games didn't work at the beginning. But I didn't expect that this "problem" still exists.
So, we have to wait and inform in-between the developers when a App didn't work correct.
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That may be the better solution so devs can see that there are people who would like to use their apps/games but are not satisfied with the fact that it looks not good on a hig end device
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