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How long until you believe this phone becomes obsolete? I hear a lot of people (and read them, too) say that this is probably the first phone they'd go the full 2 years with...however, being realistic, when was the last time you made it two years with the same device? I haven't gone two years with the same device since the original Razr was in style.
I know, I know, at 2gb ram, dual core, etc, this phone is far from becoming obsolete, so I'll rephrase that question for you: What feature on a future phone would make you make the switch from your Galaxy S3? Or are you confident enough that there will be no other phone in the next two years that can replace it?

When they release phones with 16 core Opterons in them
In the wise words of amd..:
MOAR CORES!!!!!
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My old s1 still works great
And really do we need to be able to play skyrim on a phone
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I've actually been impressed with mobile gaming...never was big on it but I have played 3D Spiderman, GTA 3, Fifa12, PES 2011 and 2012, NBA Jam, etc...been a great experience recently
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gtuansdiamm said:
My old s1 still works great
And really do we need to be able to play skyrim on a phone
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Yes
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I don't know that I have a feature that I would jump ship for at this time ... but I wonder if, in 2 years, the size and use of applications will make even 2 gb of ram obsolete?
I'm in the camp that I can see keeping this phone throughout contract, but it is hard to tell if, in 1.5 to 2 years time, 2 GB of ram is actually not enough to keep up with programs/OS requirements. I don't necessarily think so, but remember back when 256MB of ram was a lot? That wasn't TOO long ago.
But, since I don't use my phone for intense gaming, I see this phone in my future for a long while - at least until the sandwich-making feature phone is announced.

I don't think it being obsolete would be the problem. I'll just want something newer at some point before two years. My Evo 3D could have easily lasted another year for my uses, but I still got a GS3.
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banzaiwolfe said:
I don't think it being obsolete would be the problem. I'll just want something newer at some point before two years. My Evo 3D could have easily lasted another year for my uses, but I still got a GS3.
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You and I think alike. Also had Evo 3D, Razr, GNex, but still had to have the S3 and more than likely getting the Note 2 when it comes out
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Ill keep mine the whole 2 years (well 20 months or whatever it is) just like I have done with every other phone. While there may be something new and better out if you are always waiting for that you will never have a phone. That and the cost to buy phones off contract now are more than I want to spend.

Sccrluk9 said:
Ill keep mine the whole 2 years (well 20 months or whatever it is) just like I have done with every other phone. While there may be something new and better out if you are always waiting for that you will never have a phone. That and the cost to buy phones off contract now are more than I want to spend.
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That's why you make a friend who works for AT&T and gets all the new phones free who can turn around and sell em to u for 100-150...lol
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It will become obsolete sometime between Q4 2012 & Q2 2013. Qualcomm are already prepping the S4 QUAD for tablets this year and its performace is roughly x2 the Dual S4, and far exceeds the Exynos 4212+Tegra 3 if I read correctly. Technically the GPU in all Android phones are obsolete or slow in comparison to Apple's latest offerings(Imaginations is like a high-end Nvidia in the mobile-space, Adreno mid, and Tegra mid-high).
For some reason I feel someone is gonna make a 1080P phone, which is useless btw--just had to throw that out there for those that were unaware. Cores cores and more cores will probably be one of the more popular acts we see though, and 2GB-4GB Ram will be standard. Unfortunately I wish these companies would realize they need to relax b/c optimizations are practically nonexistent with Stock Android phones. I hate to constantly reference Apple & WP7/8, though it's a must. When i hear people telling me stuff like the HOAX or S3, or whatever dual/quad lags--lag. Seriously, these phones are using CPUs that theoretically should outperform the 4S/iPd3, but that's normally not the case. We are getting to a point where everyone is rushing to get out the latest and greatest, however all the hardware don't mean **** when the software can't match it.
P.S. Sorry about going off on a rant.

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We are getting to a point where everyone is rushing to get out the latest and greatest, however all the hardware don't mean **** when the software can't match it.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again here, I love Android OS but in terms of refinement iOS is better put together overall (speed, battery life, overall smoothness). Thats just my opinion.
and yes, quad core, 2GB RAM-LTE device is already out there in Korea... it wont be long until our dual core, 2GB RAM, LTE gets outdone hardware-wise down here
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I have been so disappointed with the radio in my t-mobile s3 because I cannot stream music without it cutting out constantly. I am actually going to demand a microsim adapter from them and return to my vibrant. If my data sucks so bad that I cannot consistently stream music in the car, what's the point of owning this without calling it just a pda.
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p3rljam said:
I have been so disappointed with the radio in my t-mobile s3 because I cannot stream music without it cutting out constantly. I am actually going to demand a microsim adapter from them and return to my vibrant. If my data sucks so bad that I cannot consistently stream music in the car, what's the point of owning this without calling it just a pda.
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What are u streaming? And what coverage do you have? 3G? H+?
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cue_32 said:
I've said it before and I'll say it again here, I love Android OS but in terms of refinement iOS is better put together overall (speed, battery life, overall smoothness). Thats just my opinion.
and yes, quad core, 2GB RAM-LTE device is already out there in Korea... it wont be long until our dual core, 2GB RAM, LTE gets outdone hardware-wise down here
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And it only took around 2 months for it to become obsolete then, not ideal in the world I would prefer, but I suppose it can't be helped. This phone could had been so much more if Samsung stuck with the SGX instead of adopting the Mali-400. It would had been so cool to have the CPU part of the S4 combined with a dual/quad SGX543/544 like the ipad/iphones. Those GPUs outperform even the silly Tegra 3 & its fancy 16 cores(which are just 16 weak cores throw together ). I don't know what Sammy or Qualcomm were thinking about. Everyone is just dropping the ball all over the place these days.

I'm not really sure, mainly because I'm not entirely vested in this phone as it is, so it probably wouldn't take much, provided I could sell this one and cover the majority cost of a replacement phone.
I think something with sufficient horsepower to run some things which even this phone can't, but that remains to be seen. One thing that could almost definitely sell me is a flagship phone like this one that has a hardware keyboard. The problem is that I'm in the minority, so a flagship Galaxy S or Nexus phone is highly unlikely to have one, and I care ever so slightly more about the fact that flagship phones have thriving development communities, whereas one-off phones, which I may like more, won't get the same kind of attention from either developers or manufacturers.

I'll keep my phone until my contract is up. I always have (except for my BB Storm which I *****ed about until they upgraded me). My OG Droid Inc lasted for 2 years until I got this S3 and it was still in like new condition. I was tired of the small screen, but the devs here kept the phone fresh.
Hell, part of me misses my Inc. (Love this phone, though.)
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Ace42 said:
Technically the GPU in all Android phones are obsolete or slow in comparison to Apple's latest offerings.
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Do you mean the dual core 800MHz in the 4S? That is Apple's current offering.
Since the definition of obsolete is...
1. out of use or practice; not current
2. out of date; unfashionable or outmoded
An old Startac is obsolete because it It can no longer be used. My old Motorola RAZR is not obsolete because I can still use it
for it's intended purpose.
I would say the phone will not be obsolete for many years to come. How can a device me considered obsolete if there is a phone
with a faster CPU or more memory? The phone can still be used for it's intended purpose.
My S3 can not do anything my Vibrant couldn't (with the same mechanicals), it only does it better.
Ian

w98seeng said:
Do you mean the dual core 800MHz in the 4S? That is Apple's current offering.
Since the definition of obsolete is...
1. out of use or practice; not current
2. out of date; unfashionable or outmoded
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Actually when I said latest offering I was referencing the iPad 3. And actually I stated the GPU in Android devices are all obsolete(as in not current in terms of power). The Legendary SGX543 MP4 in the iPad 3 mops the floor of every single Android device to ever touch this world, even the soon to be made Adreno 320 in the new S4 QUAD(snapdragon) fails to match the creature. Even the 4S' SGX543 MP2 is barely phased by the Mali 400, Adreno 225, and Tegra 3's laughable 16 core toy. I have no doubt that the S3's CPU is superior at all.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6022/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-review-att-and-tmobile-usa-variants/4
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6112/...agon-s4-apq8064adreno-320-performance-preview
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6054/google-nexus-7-mini-review
^Just look there, every time Apple makes everyone look like a joke. As much as I dislike Apple's methods and price gouging what I say it true.

Ace42 said:
It will become obsolete sometime between Q4 2012 & Q2 2013. Qualcomm are already prepping the S4 QUAD for tablets this year and its performace is roughly x2 the Dual S4, and far exceeds the Exynos 4212+Tegra 3 if I read correctly. Technically the GPU in all Android phones are obsolete or slow in comparison to Apple's latest offerings(Imaginations is like a high-end Nvidia in the mobile-space, Adreno mid, and Tegra mid-high).
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Obsolete (by my definition) doesn't mean that a newer/better product exists. Every device would be a obsolete within a few months if that were the case. To me obsolescence means that it either doesn't perform modern tasks acceptably or a new product feature is so desirable that you simply don't want your old device anymore.
We all know the S3 will handle Jelly Bean beautifully. I'm pretty confident it will be good for Key Lime Pie as well. I got close to 2 years from my OG Epic (Galaxy S1) and only upgraded short of 2 years because I could. With the strong CM/AOKP support this phone has, I'm fully confident I'll have this phone the full 2 years. Unless I break it, heh.

Is This Phone Worth Keeping?

I have spent a week with this SGS3 i747 and im still not sure how I feel about it. My last phone was a international HTC One X Tegra model which I loved but after an unfortunate incident I lost it so I used my upgrade to get a SGS3. I chose it over the ATT One X due to double the RAM, removable storage, bigger battery, and Samsung seems to have the edge in overall features so I gave it a shot.
Having a Tegra 3 phone, I could toss any game at it and it would play flawlessly which is not the case here. Game play ok for the most part but hardcore gameloft games have noticible lag considering such a high end device. I always had a sour taste for Qualcomm chipsets but this one gets pretty good reviews even though the GPU isnt considered top shelf anymore.
Anyway. My question is: Is this phone futureproofed enough to keep long term? I still have options since my 30 days expire on the 15th next month so I have a chance to see the Note 2, new iPhone, and Nokia WP8 announcement before my time is up. But I wanted the opinion of fellow users. What do you guys think of the S3 when it comes to long term use? Thanks

It doesn't matter what you buy. Anything will be outdated in two months to just go with what you like. Don't follow everyone else.
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cuhrazy said:
It doesn't matter what you buy. Anything will be outdated in two months to just go with what you like. Don't follow everyone else.
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This.
There will always be new phones out every month i think the s3 can make it out until your next upgrade...
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If you've had it and used it for the last week, you're in the best position to determine whether or not it's worth keeping! What works for one person may not work for another. So, while the opinions you may get on a forum can vary widely, the only opinion that really counts is yours!
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if after a few days with the phone you are still not convinced about it, just return it and get something else. The new Nokia will be something worth looking and there is always the iPhone5.

Or sell the phone get the international one x again. Or exchange for the one x. Or save the upgrade for the iPhone 5.
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I have upgrades set up every year to help with the growth of the smartphone world. It moves so fast you almost need a new one every year.
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I have upgrades set up every year to help with the growth of the smartphone world. It moves so fast you almost need a new one every year.
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you need one every 2 months or so.
I've gone through 5 phones this year, 4s, gn, note, one x, s3 and we got 4 months left in the year

If your looking for hardcore gpu and can wait maybe 3 months or so the adreno 320 will be out by then and it compares to the xbox 360 gpu, in the mean time you currently have the most sought out phone in which u can sale by then and get the latest upgrade...
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The S3 is a great phone, it was/is the official mobile phone of the London Olympics. It is really popular over here.
I'm loving it on the Three network on "The One" plan, with 2000 any UK minutes, 5000 three to three minutes, unlimited texts something like 2000 texts and unlimited (yes its truly unlimitely not like AT&T where you get 3 or 5GB a month). Ive got up to 7GB and havent noticed any throttle of speed. All for around £34 a month, with no upfront fee, which is like $51 US a month, which is dirt cheap. I visited Los Angeles and Las Vegas for two weeks end of July / beginning of August, used it with a AT&T go phone microsim, was great taking photos using its 8MP and uploading them to Facebook. Using google maps with the voice navigation when the cabbie got lost and general web browising when I was out and about, the screen size is just beautiful. Although I may add AT&T coverage is a bit spotty, 2 to 3 bars in surburbs and 4 - 5 when in the city, which is crap considering I have full HSPA+ coverage in the UK wherever I go, compared to CA. But hey we don't LTE in the UK yet, while you guys have. I say stick with the phone bro, or atleast wait to the S4 next year May.

mike21pr said:
I have spent a week with this SGS3 i747 and im still not sure how I feel about it. My last phone was a international HTC One X Tegra model which I loved but after an unfortunate incident I lost it so I used my upgrade to get a SGS3. I chose it over the ATT One X due to double the RAM, removable storage, bigger battery, and Samsung seems to have the edge in overall features so I gave it a shot.
Having a Tegra 3 phone, I could toss any game at it and it would play flawlessly which is not the case here. Game play ok for the most part but hardcore gameloft games have noticible lag considering such a high end device. I always had a sour taste for Qualcomm chipsets but this one gets pretty good reviews even though the GPU isnt considered top shelf anymore.
Anyway. My question is: Is this phone futureproofed enough to keep long term? I still have options since my 30 days expire on the 15th next month so I have a chance to see the Note 2, new iPhone, and Nokia WP8 announcement before my time is up. But I wanted the opinion of fellow users. What do you guys think of the S3 when it comes to long term use? Thanks
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I am curious, which gameloft games in particular are you talking about? Modern Combat 3 for me doesn't lag, or maybe I am just too into the game to notice.
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These guys get the placebo effect way to easy is all, they hear this one has quad core or whatever and think they must have quad as its more than dual...so many other factors in the setup. Basically know that there is not currently a better phone available , at least RIGHT NOW. But you sound like the A.D.D. type that will get a new phone in 3-6months anyways so its up to you. Then there is the type holding out on their old phone for the S4, etc. This phone will last till my next upgrade I have no doubt, and I sleep well at night not worrying about it, give it a try.

How long do you think before the Note 2 gets/feels outdated?

Im sure this question doesnt really get thrown around alot considering the Note 2 is still a relatively new release. However, im curious to know how long before it starts to feel "outdated" just like the Galaxy S3. Im sure im not the only one who feels that way towards the S3 Int version. I mean one of the reason i switched to a Note 2 was because of the bigger screen and the extra 1GB Ram...feels like this could be future proof atleast for some time but thats also what i felt about the S3 when i first got it until they started releasing phones with 2gigs and full HD screens. What do you guys think?

When samsung releases note 3 I think.. and thats about 3rd to 4th quarter next year..
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And also not so many apps today optimize quad core processor.. and when that time comes note 2 is still running smoothly because what you are holding right now is not yet fully optimize.. wait until all developers optimize their apps and you will see the real note 2..
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I'd say when the Note 3 comes out or a worthy equal from a competitor
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Yeah but doesn't it put you off sometimes when your phone hasn't even been through half of its product cycle and already you start seeing leaks of its successor and then suddenly all the spot light is taken away from your current device. I'm proud of showing my friends how much better is the note 2 compared to his one x and the spot light helps.
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bushako said:
Yeah but doesn't it put you off sometimes when your phone hasn't even been through half of its product cycle and already you start seeing leaks of its successor and then suddenly all the spot light is taken away from your current device. I'm proud of showing my friends how much better is the note 2 compared to his one x and the spot light helps.
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It is just a device and it is all in your mind. Get over it.

I think its already outdated...
I keep trying to reassure myself by telling myself that the software support in xda is awesome...
I guess I will have to stick to this device a little longer...
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bushako said:
Yeah but doesn't it put you off sometimes when your phone hasn't even been through half of its product cycle and already you start seeing leaks of its successor and then suddenly all the spot light is taken away from your current device. I'm proud of showing my friends how much better is the note 2 compared to his one x and the spot light helps.
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I have both note 2 and one x as well as an s3, and the hox screen is by far the best amongst the 3 in terms of crispness in my opinion.
But back on topic haha, i think it is good that technology is moving so fast. Just means better stuff for us to upgrade to in a year. The note 2 is powerful enough to withstand the changes that will occur in the next 12 months at the very least.
Try not to look at it as being in the spotlight, because regardless of what samsung or anyone else bring, the note 2 is still so unique that it can stand on it own until something else of similar size and with a stylus comes along
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It is just a device and it is all in your mind. Get over it.
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I wish it were true for everyone but fortunately not everyone thinks alike. I see it a bit more than just a device..It should be able to work as fluidly as it was when I first had it at least for the few years ahead, and keep up with newer apps that demand more hardware resources. I like to have the greatest and the latest or at least try, but that's me
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I think its already outdated...
I keep trying to reassure myself by telling myself that the software support in xda is awesome...
I guess I will have to stick to this device a little longer...
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Yupe I tell that to myself too from time to time...
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Now and for some time in the future, the specs of our devices should suffice. Get a new battery in a year, keep installing new updates and enjoy your awesome phone

bushako said:
Im sure this question doesnt really get thrown around alot considering the Note 2 is still a relatively new release. However, im curious to know how long before it starts to feel "outdated" just like the Galaxy S3. Im sure im not the only one who feels that way towards the S3 Int version. I mean one of the reason i switched to a Note 2 was because of the bigger screen and the extra 1GB Ram...feels like this could be future proof atleast for some time but thats also what i felt about the S3 when i first got it until they started releasing phones with 2gigs and full HD screens. What do you guys think?
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I've used the note (1) for almost a year and wouldn't have bought note 2 if it wasn't for my kid needing a new phone (my note 1). As I still feel the Note 1 is still in the game, especially when JB is released, I don't think I will feel my note 2 being outdated for atleast 2 years.
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Adde79 said:
I've used the note (1) for almost a year and wouldn't have bought note 2 if it wasn't for my kid needing a new phone (my note 1). As I still feel the Note 1 is still in the game, especially when JB is released, I don't think I will feel my note 2 being outdated for atleast 2 years.
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Hehe. In my case it was Mom who got my old HTC Desire. (She loves it.)
The Note 2 has just the right size for me and - compared to the Desire - more space than I'd even know what to do with, so my guess is I'll still be happy with it in 2 years. But who knows what they'll throw on the market in the near future...

When the s4 is released, my note 2 will probably become a secondary device.....depending on the actual specs released on the s4.
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Until Note 2 keeps getting updates and new features I'll be more than happy to be with it.
The moment ,say Key Lime Pie(unlikely) or a later version, is not released for us, the phone will feel outdated. Cause the quad core specs should hold up for a couple of years and all that is needed are constant updates giving way to new features.
Thats what i feel.

It will probably be awhile before we start seeing more cores utilized properly aside from games. There aren't that many heavy duty apps for mobiles. Even apps that take up a lot of ram don't need a lot of horse power. We need some distributed networking stuff and some real Photoshop and video/audio conversion apps to utilize the cores.
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It will probably be awhile before we start seeing more cores utilized properly aside from games. There aren't that many heavy duty apps for mobiles. Even apps that take up a lot of ram don't need a lot of horse power. We need some distributed networking stuff and some real Photoshop and video/audio conversion apps to utilize the cores.
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My thoughts exactly.

There are a few aspects which I consider when buying a phone, and for determining if a phone is outdated or not.
I'll give you my thoughts on when the Note II will be "outdated" - keep in mind this is relative and subject to your own opinion.
The Note II is a great device and in my opinion, it will still be great to use for the coming 2 years (which is standard contract length).
The following aspects are which I use to determine if a phone is outdated:
Battery
The Note II has a decent battery, 3100 mAh is very good for any phone. But the capacity is relative to the hardware of the phone; because of the screen size and quad-core CPU you cannot compare this 1:1 with, say, a 4 inch dual-core phone. The hardware of the Note II drains alot more battery capacity than a 4 inch dual-core phone would. Nonetheless, you can get 36-40 hours out of the battery, which still is better than most phones nowadays.
Screen
The screen of the Note II isn't it's strongest aspect. Sure, the 5.5" 1280x720 screen is nice, but what is important is the ppi (pixels per inch). The Note II has 267 ppi. In a few months there will be some phones with a 5" 1920x1080 screen, resulting in 443 ppi. This is alot better than the Note II. For now the Note II has a good screen, but it will be less attractive once the 5" 1920x1080 phones are released.
The screen won't be damaged by normal use, which is good.
CPU
An Exynos 4412 quad-core CPU at 1.6 GHz is a very good CPU. One of the best at the present moment. However, the coming Intel CPU's in Android phones will give it a run for it's money.
GPU
The Note II comes with a quad-core Mali-400MP GPU clocked at 400 MHz. This will provide the Note II with all the graphics processing power it needs and won't be surpassed soon. It's supposed to render as well as the PS3 and XBox 360. However, NVidia's Tegra 4 (not released yet) will be better.
Memory
2 GB RAM is very good, and any phone won't need more for quite a while.
Build quality
It might feel a little cheap, but it is quite strong and well-made. I am using it without a case (but with flip cover) and after about 2 months, it is still undamaged. This may vary between users but for me, it's a plus.
Development possibilities
The Note II is easy to root and there is active development going on. No downside here besides the fact that once rooted on stock ROM, you can no longer recieve OTA updates from Samsung.
Camera
The 8 MP camerica is ok. There are already better camera's in some other phones, but alot of the currently available phones have worse camera's.
Update likeliness
Samsung will surely keep the phone updated with the latest Android versions available. No worries about not being able to have the latest Android version on your phone - and if Samsung decides to stop updating, the active development community will probably provide you with a custom ROM of the latest version.
In conclusion: in the coming few months the Note II will be surpassed by other phones. However, it is a decent phone and can surely last you 2 years without losing much of it's power. So, yes, in terms of specifications, it will be outdated by the end of 2013. However, it will still be a great device and in terms of consumer satisfaction, it will not be outdated for atleast 2 years.

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It will probably be awhile before we start seeing more cores utilized properly aside from games. There aren't that many heavy duty apps for mobiles. Even apps that take up a lot of ram don't need a lot of horse power. We need some distributed networking stuff and some real Photoshop and video/audio conversion apps to utilize the cores.
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Im curious though, since when was dual core never enough that they had the need to increase the number of cores. Not that im complaining but isnt the main issue with experiencing some sluggishness is due to the apps running in some sort of a virtual environment( forgive me if i use the wrong terms here)? I figured why not just increase the clock speed and improve the OS to be able to fully utilize what resources are available from the hardware to its maximum potential. The way i see it...hardware wise they have taken huge leaps where as software needs alot of catching up to do...and that gap is still ever increasing.

bushako said:
Im curious though, since when was dual core never enough that they had the need to increase the number of cores. Not that im complaining but isnt the main issue with experiencing some sluggishness is due to the apps running in some sort of a virtual environment( forgive me if i use the wrong terms here)? I figured why not just increase the clock speed and improve the OS to be able to fully utilize what resources are available from the hardware to its maximum potential. The way i see it...hardware wise they have taken huge leaps where as software needs alot of catching up to do...and that gap is still ever increasing.
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Same goes for x86 architecture. There are a lot more apps that use it, that really benefit from it too, but some of the lesser apps that utilize use it in a faux way that doesn't really benefit from it. A lot of it is education and engineering but the other part of it is storage is still the bottleneck. Ssd's are still kind of slow unless utilized in good raid array. The current Intel core CPU's can decimate all the bits thrown at it in most mainstream systems.
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I got a note 2 for myself and an S3 as a present to my mom (she didn't want the big size at all) for me the note 2 specs are top notch.
For CPU I think the exynos 4412 quad is the best second to that is probably the snap dragon s4 quad
Ram 2 gigs is pretty much the standard for smart phones now and don't think will change in quite some time.
screen is beautiful. Tbh when you look closely with note 2 and s3 side by side the s3 is better but that's because of the higher ppi
Don't forget the s pen is a huge selling point no other phone except the note 1, 2 has it. Especially with all the awesome Features of It.

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Same goes for x86 architecture. There are a lot more apps that use it, that really benefit from it too, but some of the lesser apps that utilize use it in a faux way that doesn't really benefit from it. A lot of it is education and engineering but the other part of it is storage is still the bottleneck. Ssd's are still kind of slow unless utilized in good raid array. The current Intel core CPU's can decimate all the bits thrown at it in most mainstream systems.
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So in other words unless there aren't many apps being developed that require more powerful processors and ram then there's really not that much to look forward to with the upcoming s4 performance wise other than an increase in display size, pixel density and perhaps battery life... I can't imagine how much more improvements can be done over the current performance of the note 2. This thing is literally by far the best phone experience since my last iphone device.
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Looks like people love the optimus g pro

Check this out
http://www.androidauthority.com/lg-optimus-g-pro-217526/
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Samsung fanboys are everywhere, every time there's an article about LG those annoying people show up, I wonder why...

No doubt I love this phone! Playing Iron Man 3 and Dungeon Hunter 4 is a blast on this thing.
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Look, some moron says "Sgs4 wins in every category and is cheaper. You can wait for the Note 3 or HTC T6 if you must have a phablet!" Why can't Samsung fans just shup up?

waiting on the next badass smartphone is retarded. not only will you be waiting longer than you planned, the next new baddass smartphone will be on the horizon, might as well wait for it.

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waiting on the next badass smartphone is retarded. not only will you be waiting longer than you planned, the next new baddass smartphone will be on the horizon, might as well wait for it.
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Trying to keep up with technology is a waste of time and expensive. There will always be something hotter and better on the horizon
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Billy Madison said:
Look, some moron says "Sgs4 wins in every category and is cheaper. You can wait for the Note 3 or HTC T6 if you must have a phablet!" Why can't Samsung fans just shup up?
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Any company achieves (or has ever achieved) a high position will have that kind of badasses. The most annoying is Apple fans, next is Samsung fan. Sony and Nokia fans are different than not a lot as two companies above but somehow more crazy and ignorant.
I think currently LG's fans are the best in behaving:good:

I've had my E980 for 2-3 weeks now
It performs the way I would expect for having the same internals as the SGS4, with a larger screen. It freakin SCREAMS. I looked at the Note2, but its got obsolete hardware compared to SGS4 or E980. I would definitely say the E980 effectively IS the Note3 without the Samsung extras. If Samsung had done a simultaneous release of the Note3 (which they *should* have), I probably would have gone for that, but the E980 is working out just fine and I'm happy with it. I think LG scored a nice coup here. Why compete with the the smaller SGS4 head to head and lose, when you can release a Phablet with the same specs, and no competition for 6 months until the Note3 releases? They really need to advertise it though while they have an effective but temporary "monopoly" on the high end Phablet.
Observations:
Battery life has been awesome. I use it periodically during the day like normal, and its sitting between 70-80%. The 2.1A charger in the car has it fully charged in the 30+ minute drive home in the evening. This is a MASSIVE improvement over my SGSII where I would be at 30% at the end of a similar day and would take a couple of hours to charge since it didn't charge above 1A.
Screen is awesome! I got this over the SGS4 which I'd been planning on, since my eyeballs have had a recent and relatively sudden "degradation of capabilities". The combination of LARGE screen and sharp pixels is working out quite nicely for me to be able to see the text without having to make other compromises. (btw this getting older crap sucks) Thank goodness for variety, because if I was stuck on a tiny iPhone screen I'd be sunk by now.
It runs good on T-Mobile (at least where the frequencies have been refarmed like DFW, not sure about elsewhere). 4.78Mbs up, 1.7Mbs down for HSPA+ in Dallas. Unable to test LTE yet until more towers get lit up.
Application installs are almost all instant. Big upgrade from my SGSII. Blink and you miss the installation from Play.
Camera is proving to be pretty awesome and sharp. Definite upgrade from my SGSII. It focuses a lot faster, and I can do more rapid shots, which comes in handy when children won't sit still... Colours seem correct, or close enough, I'm not noticing anything wrong.
Still fits in my back pocket - YMMV on this one, but Levi's 36x34 can take it.
First phone EVER that actually fits comfortably in my hand. One handed operation is not compromised either for ME. However, this is another YMMV - folks with smaller hands WILL have a problem on this. My SGSII was ok, provided it had a case on it, and the same with the SGS3 and 4's that I've borrowed. But this is definitely better. If you're of the smaller handed set, this may not be the phone for you, but for those who have medium to large hands - take a look at this phone. it may be exactly what you've been looking for comfort wise. Viva la difference.

i'd agree with all the good things posted. it's a fantastic device. re: the camera sensor, i've noticed it has a hard time reading bar codes for apps, anybody else experience this?

re: barcode scan?
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i'd agree with all the good things posted. it's a fantastic device. re: the camera sensor, i've noticed it has a hard time reading bar codes for apps, anybody else experience this?
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I haven't noticed any issue on the barcodes, and I know I've scanned a couple in the last couple of weeks. I just gave it a couple of smaller ones off a Lenovo power supply that gave it a fit, but it still got them after a few seconds. Switched over to a magazine and it picked it right up (in low light even). For the app barcodes, those have been nearly instant as well. For all of the above, I'm using ZXing's Barcode Scanner.

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I haven't noticed any issue on the barcodes, and I know I've scanned a couple in the last couple of weeks. I just gave it a couple of smaller ones off a Lenovo power supply that gave it a fit, but it still got them after a few seconds. Switched over to a magazine and it picked it right up (in low light even). For the app barcodes, those have been nearly instant as well. For all of the above, I'm using ZXing's Barcode Scanner.
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that's prolly a better way to describe it. it has recognized all the bar codes i've thrown at it, but it seems to struggle to settle down and focus. twitchy, like the image stabilization is not engaged.

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that's prolly a better way to describe it. it has recognized all the bar codes i've thrown at it, but it seems to struggle to settle down and focus. twitchy, like the image stabilization is not engaged.
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OK, yeah, I've seen what you are talking about. Almost seemed like it focused on the WRONG area a couple of times. With that said, I've not noticed much difference over my previous SGSII. Although subjectively, its seems faster than my SGSII for getting a lock.

just received my OGP this week...in just love it!!!
from a former note user...lollll though my note had been a nice phone

Still willing to buy...bye to my HTC desire X

I've been wanting to wait for the Note 3, but I hardly use the stylus. I love the phablet form of the phone.
I really would love to get this phone. I really enjoyed playing with it at the store, but the locked boot loader is no bueno for me.
Maybe once things get rolling with this device, I'll pick it up.
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I love g pro more than my GF
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jlauren said:
thats true.. but i think that if the SN3 comes out that it will be a failure. for one, a 6 inch screen is a big turn off. 2nd, benchmarks mean nothing even if it'll have the best specs when it debuts.
i think the OGP will lbeat the SN3 even when it comes out, despite the higher specs. theres gonna come a time when ram and processor speed will reach a point where it doesnt matter anymore.. like the laptop where chip manufacturers stopped making faster chips cuz laptops are fast enough.. theres no need to make cellphones faster now.
i'm gonna buy the OGP soon.. i wish there was a white version available in the USA though.
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How can you tell unless you know exactly what the note 3 will be about? Also the note 3 will have a better development support that's pretty much guaranteed. And the Spen is s major plus that the note series have over the other phablet.
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Check this out
http://www.androidauthority.com/lg-optimus-g-pro-217526/
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This is the one smartphone that I want and good old Verizon does not have it. Unfortunately Verizon has the best coverage in my area. I do not want the Galaxy Note 2 , so that is not an option with me. I will just hold off until maybe Verizon will get an LG phone with the same style and the same specs as this one. I don't like the pointed square corners of the LG phones on Verizon. The Optimus G Pro have the rounded corners. Looks great. I'm really sick that I cannot get this phone. I guess I will have a long wait on Verizon. Wish I could switch carriers.

such a beautiful screen, best phone ever had
thanks LG

I've had mine for a little over 2 hours now...sweet!
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Still worth picking up a note 3

Looking for new toy AMD I've always been intrigued by the note 3. Was considering grabbing one from T-Mobile is it still worth it ? Sure they will be announcing the note 4 soon .
I currently have the nexus 5 and like it but crave a bigger screen .
Is there root for the note 3
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You're at the half way point. Have a phone that's been half a year out... or wait half a year for the Note 4. Your call.
Yes, there's root out. It's XDA after all.

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You're at the half way point. Have a phone that's been half a year out... or wait half a year for the Note 4. Your call.
Yes, there's root out. It's XDA after all.
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Not all gave root here on XDA sadly
And from read the note 4 is going to have a wrap around screen
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I have the note 3 and I love it. The galaxy s5 demo unit came into my store the other day and I have no desire to switch to it... don't get me wrong it's REALLY nice. But I wouldn't switch to it. I say go for the N3
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Do yourself a favor and get a note 3 you can thank me later
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Wait for note 4 boot loader / Knox situation . if it's locked and Knox situation has not changed then either get a note 3 or stay away from Samsung all together . note 4 will have that dual WiFi antenna thing which is the only feature worth getting other wise I do t see them slapping 4 g of ram of 64 GB memory . faster CPU is useless and redundant as of now specially the way google is lowering requirement for their OS. The wrap around screen thing is useless to me because my phone is always encased

OP I was in the exact situation as yours. I've been using Nexus 5 and wanting to get a bigger screen, namely a Note. I weighed in the current trend, and am convinced that Samsung isn't gonna make Note 4 super interesting, so i decided to get a Note 3.
So far I am not disappointed. Touch Wiz has matured and there is no need to deviate from stock based ROMs.
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Samsung has been crap this year. I really wouldn't have my hopes up for their next upcoming flagship. After all, it's just a phone. I waited a whole year for the damn s5 and it turned out to be a disappointment. I got the note 3 instead,and I totally recommend it. It will feel huge at first, but you will eventually adapt to the point of no return.After all, it's just a phone.

Just picked up the note 3 ....um wow just wow
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Awww my good friend. Do it, do it, it'll make you feel good good good.
Really, do yourself a favor and get the 3. I did last month and oh boy, everything is great and no you don't really need to root, I did because I can't live without Viper audio and cerberus and remove bloat to clear up memory, ( not just disable them). Using a custom rom, it was wicked but I've changed to hyper drive rom, both fantastic. So long story short get it, and become happy for ever, until next year at lease.

Or do as I did and get the Note 3 and pay the extra $ for Jump! and when the Note 4 comes out switch

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Just picked up the note 3 ....um wow just wow
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Enjoy it bro, the "wow" factor has yet to leave me. Lots of great devs here with great roms and kernel support, as well as nice community that will help you out when in need.
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Had it since day one and there is nothing better out there now. No S5, HTC One (M8) or IPhone can beat this beauty and the beast phone. Only the Note 4 can surpass it when it comes out.
You will not regret getting a Note 3. May want to wait till S5 comes out in case you can get a Gear watch bundled for cheap if interested in it.
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I kinda agree that there really isn't anything out there better yet. I mean things like 2k display (not needed and bigger battery drain) 2gb ram is a step backwards, and no stylus (if you use it) and the Snap Dragon 801 is only 200mhz faster with the same gpu. So at the minimum I probably wouldn't even look til the 805 SoC came out or 64 bit (which isn't even needed yet).
That not even mentioning someone has to come up with something really innovative or significantly better like the isocell with OIS. At this point, we're really at a point of saturation.