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Unbranded Touch Pro 2

Several readers are wondering when the new HTC Touch Pro 2 will be released by carriers, and which carriers will offer it.
HTC is currently planning to ship the HTC Touch Pro 2 to European customers in late May or early June, featuring Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional and the latest version of TouchFLO 3D. FCC recently revealed that HTC is also planning to offer an unlocked version of the HTC Touch Pro 2 supporting AT&T's 3G network this summer.
I have also included the link. http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/10233.html

that's great news!!! I'm really thinking of buying an unlocked one, but only as long as it supports AT&T's 3G network. the only thing holding me back is that if I do buy an unlocked one I won't have any insurance or warranty on it. wait, does anyone know if any form of insurance or warranty is offered if you buy an unlocked version of a phone?? (sorry I've never bought an unlocked phone before) cos it's getting pretty hard to wait for fall to come so I can buy the subsidized TP2. and plus, by then AT&T will most likely have messed around with the hardware and appearance of the phone.

poppinpengawen said:
that's great news!!! I'm really thinking of buying an unlocked one, but only as long as it supports AT&T's 3G network. the only thing holding me back is that if I do buy an unlocked one I won't have any insurance or warranty on it. wait, does anyone know if any form of insurance or warranty is offered if you buy an unlocked version of a phone?? (sorry I've never bought an unlocked phone before) cos it's getting pretty hard to wait for fall to come so I can buy the subsidized TP2. and plus, by then AT&T will most likely have messed around with the hardware and appearance of the phone.
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Im in the same boat. I prefer an unlocked (untampered with) phone, but worried about the lack of Warranty

I have bought a Tytn, Tytn II and a Touch Pro direct from HTC, certainly in the UK their warranty is good, its longer than a year certainly (I think 2 but dont quote me). I will be getting the Touch Pro II direct from HTC again, Im bored of being held to ransom by the operators.

i know that if we buy an unbranded TP2, it will more than likely come with a 1 year manufacturers warranty. that sets me at some sense of ease. but does anyone know if an unlocked TP2 will support U.S. AT&T's 3G bands? i've been hearing 2 different answers: some say it will some say it wont. can anyone supply some evidence? i'm trying to compile all the evidence and reasoning i can so i can make my final decision as to buying it unbranded or just waiting for a subsidized version that i know will work with AT&T's 3G bands here in the U.S.
also, does anyone know if HTC will sell it for less or more than those sites like expansys and such?

If they release an unlocked one directly to the US, I am sure it will support either both AT&T and T-Mobile, or they will have 2 separate ones that support either.

Thinking of purchasing Defy

Hello,
my brother is thinking of buying the Defy.
Is there another model for US and another for Europe? In order to be careful when purchasing online?
Because i have the Motorola Milestone and i know that there are two different models for that one.
Thanks

I purchased mine online Im using a Europe defy in Australia it shouldn't really matter i suggest look up the nexus s they have dropped heaps in price and a very good phone have a look at this
http://www.compare-cellphones.org/Google-Nexus-S-vs-Motorola-DEFY

I've bought my us tmob defy for using in Ukraine
So you brother can buy either european defy or us

Fekish said:
Hello,
my brother is thinking of buying the Defy.
Is there another model for US and another for Europe? In order to be careful when purchasing online?
Because i have the Motorola Milestone and i know that there are two different models for that one.
Thanks
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I loved Cyprus -- when I was a kid toured around on a motorcycle. Anyway, there are different phones for different markets. The US t-mo phone will (of course) do data on t-mo but also, will work on at&t. It will also work on the more universal 2100 3G frequency for Europe and Asia.
If you buy the typical Euro phone, it does not have the 3G frequencies which work in the USA. On the other hand, any of the phones should connect w/o issue for text and voice.
Make sure, if he's buying on line, he does not get a version designed for some of the Arab language markets which do not have market.

[Q] International VS att HTC ONE X?

Hey Guys,
I am so excited to get hTC one X but I am really confused between the international and the att one
some would argue that dual-core snapdragon S4 is even better than T3 and vice versa .. any idea?
here why I am confused:
one x international: T3 better than S4?, will get upgrades b4 att,
one x att: S4 better than T3?, comes with warranty, cheaper (550$ VS 640$ for international)
my big concern is actually the warranty! 90$ is no big deal
to me, I don't care about the 16 VS 32 Gb or radio or even 4G!
so anyone to help me out?

Amiodarone said:
Hey Guys,
I am so excited to get hTC one X but I am really confused between the international and the att one
some would argue that dual-core snapdragon S4 is even better than T3 and vice versa .. any idea?
here why I am confused:
one x international: T3 better than S4?, will get upgrades b4 att,
one x att: S4 better than T3?, comes with warranty, cheaper (550$ VS 640$ for international)
my big concern is actually the warranty! 90$ is no big deal
to me, I don't care about the 16 VS 32 Gb or radio or even 4G!
so anyone to help me out?
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I would think the international One X will have a better development crowd. That was the main reason I ordered the international model.
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Does the international work on AT&T lte?

lewi1032 said:
Does the international work on AT&T lte?
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No.
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Amiodarone said:
Hey Guys,
I am so excited to get hTC one X but I am really confused between the international and the att one
some would argue that dual-core snapdragon S4 is even better than T3 and vice versa .. any idea?
here why I am confused:
one x international: T3 better than S4?, will get upgrades b4 att,
one x att: S4 better than T3?, comes with warranty, cheaper (550$ VS 640$ for international)
my big concern is actually the warranty! 90$ is no big deal
to me, I don't care about the 16 VS 32 Gb or radio or even 4G!
so anyone to help me out?
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International version. For some reason development on cdma/lte phones is very slow. There's something about the configuration that makes things immensely complicated. Even Google stopped supporting the cdma Nexus devices.
Plus you can travel abroad with the international version.
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this is awesome.

nooomoto said:
International version. For some reason development on cdma/lte phones is very slow. There's something about the configuration that makes things immensely complicated. Even Google stopped supporting the cdma Nexus devices.
Plus you can travel abroad with the international version.
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I think the main reason development is slow on CDMA phones is that they're really only used in the United States. There simply is enough devs able to work with them. You have a good point about the international version though; you can take it traveling and pop any sim that uses the appropriate frequencies.

what about the warranty guys?
does it worth going with att htc one x for the warranty since international one doesn't come with any warranty?!

Amiodarone said:
what about the warranty guys?
does it worth going with att htc one x for the warranty since international one doesn't come with any warranty?!
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My international model comes with 1 year warranty from HTC.

thegregulator said:
I think the main reason development is slow on CDMA phones is that they're really only used in the United States. There simply is enough devs able to work with them. You have a good point about the international version though; you can take it traveling and pop any sim that uses the appropriate frequencies.
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Both AT&T and INTL models have the same 3G support, only difference being the addition of the 4G radio. No major biggie here.
I'm in a postition to get the XL from my local 4G provider (Telstra in Australia, when they release it) but chose to get the INTL OneX from a dev perspective. Much larger dev crowd and earlier overall release. Look at the AT&T forum - dead! Yes it's only very early days there, but people were posting all over the INTL OneX forum well before it was available.
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i bought mine in europe and i have 1 year of warranty

ATT has a duel core version. INT has a quad core version
INT has 32gb of storage plus a extra 25gb from drop box . ATT has 16gb n no word on drop box offering 25gb
ATT has a LTE Radio inside which will be a battery killer. The INT just has a HSPA+ radio
INT version is everywhere so it will have a much bigger development than the US version
I just bought a international version n hope to have it tommrow.. the only big difference is the LTE radio.
Samsung had change the processor on the Galaxy Note and it has no problems
If support is such a big deal to you than stay with the ATT version and pay 4$ a month or w/e if your phone get lost or stolen or damage ..
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

32 gb vs 16 is the main reason to chose the int. that and the AT&T box sux.

thegregulator said:
My international model comes with 1 year warranty from HTC.
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this is not the case in the US!
to get international version of the 1 x, u should buy it from amazon or ebay ..etc without warranty (well, ebay provide warranty from 3rd party for 89.99$)

international version is better in my opinion.

THIS ARTICLE will help. It compares the Tegra 3 powered One X to the Snapdragon S4 powered One S.
Unless you need 4G, the international version should come out on top benchmark wise.

If you check out Engadget's review of the LTE One X it is actually superior in most benchmarks because of the Snapdragon S4.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/01/htc-one-x-for-att-review/

Silent8Strike said:
If you check out Engadget's review of the LTE One X it is actually superior in most benchmarks because of the Snapdragon S4.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/01/htc-one-x-for-att-review/
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it means absolutely nothing compared to real world

Where can you buy international version in U.S. with warranty? Everything I see on Amazon says no warranty.

xdp said:
Where can you buy international version in U.S. with warranty? Everything I see on Amazon says no warranty.
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You can buy one from eBay they still give you warranty. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-HTC-...88352?pt=AU_Mobile_Phones&hash=item4164b3f080
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Sorry the seller is not in the US though.

What device to get?

So I was thinking of getting the at&t htc one x but as you all may know it has its own set of issues. I'm on at&t but wouldnt mind getting the international htc one x version and not using lte as I'm not even in coverage areas anyways if you guys really recommend it. I like that the International hox has more space.
Also, not really interested in the galaxy s3 but the only thing that may have sparked interest is the sony xperia ion which is suppose to be coming to at&t in june. I believe it has lesser specs than the int. hox?
Either way, what do you guys recommend. Skip the at&t hox and go for the int. hox? I definitely like to root and rom, thats all I did on the htc inspire.

SysAdmNj said:
So I was thinking of getting the at&t htc one x but as you all may know it has its own set of issues. I'm on at&t but wouldnt mind getting the international htc one x version and not using lte as I'm not even in coverage areas anyways if you guys really recommend it. I like that the International hox has more space.
Also, not really interested in the galaxy s3 but the only thing that may have sparked interest is the sony xperia ion which is suppose to be coming to at&t in june. I believe it has lesser specs than the int. hox?
Either way, what do you guys recommend. Skip the at&t hox and go for the int. hox? I definitely like to root and rom, thats all I did on the htc inspire.
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If you like to root and ROM, international One X it is....no questions asked. Simple and straightforward answer is to get Int'l One X.
Since ur also not in LTE areas, you can't turn off the LTE on AT&T One X from what I remember reading, so you'll drain battery just by having it on and get LTE like stats, instead of the 3G only stats which are nearly double the life.
Get International One X, Xperia Ion isn't good. An actual Sony flagship contendor is in the works though with the Snapdragon S4 Pro chip.

I see your in nyc, any dependable vendor you can recommend that has been shipping the int. hox with little to no defects? I only know expansys-usa but never ordered from them.

SysAdmNj said:
I see your in nyc, any dependable vendor you can recommend that has been shipping the int. hox with little to no defects? I only know expansys-usa but never ordered from them.
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Order from Expansys, or Negri so just incase your model does have a defect, you can get replacement.
The Chinese models (ones manufactured in China) seem to have much less problems than the taiwan models.
Basically SH serial number seems to be better than HT for the most part. Mines an SH and all is well except for a slight flicker on light grey colors (software problem 95% sure but not noticeable) Other SH models have been problem free from what I hear. I have no flex or hardware issues

SysAdmNj said:
So I was thinking of getting the at&t htc one x but as you all may know it has its own set of issues. I'm on at&t but wouldnt mind getting the international htc one x version and not using lte as I'm not even in coverage areas anyways if you guys really recommend it. I like that the International hox has more space.
Also, not really interested in the galaxy s3 but the only thing that may have sparked interest is the sony xperia ion which is suppose to be coming to at&t in june. I believe it has lesser specs than the int. hox?
Either way, what do you guys recommend. Skip the at&t hox and go for the int. hox? I definitely like to root and rom, thats all I did on the htc inspire.
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I personally chose the Galaxy S3 ( preordered yesterday) but I walked into an AT&T store today and saw and held the one x for the first time. I've never seen a phone or anything like this. The design is just too good, even the glamour grey, just an amazing looking phone. As far as you getting the intl' or the AT&T version, well since you like to root I guess get the intl' version. But the AT&T version is just much better right now. Excellent battery life and none of that lag crap.

pewpewbangbang said:
Order from Expansys, or Negri so just incase your model does have a defect, you can get replacement.
The Chinese models (ones manufactured in China) seem to have much less problems than the taiwan models.
Basically SH serial number seems to be better than HT for the most part. Mines an SH and all is well except for a slight flicker on light grey colors (software problem 95% sure but not noticeable) Other SH models have been problem free from what I hear. I have no flex or hardware issues
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correction, it is the other way around

I'd be stuck on 16gb(really like 10gb approx.) internal space, no root or way to unlock bl. Less dev support probably because of this. Seems neither hox is issue free though. Way more convenient to walk into an at&t store.

hello00 said:
correction, it is the other way around
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no...im pretty sure the chinese models have been better.
Most of the problems are with models starting with HT which are taiwan. SH are china and have been better

pewpewbangbang said:
no...im pretty sure the chinese models have been better.
Most of the problems are with models starting with HT which are taiwan. SH are china and have been better
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Such is my understanding as well.

pewpewbangbang said:
Order from Expansys, or Negri so just incase your model does have a defect, you can get replacement.
The Chinese models (ones manufactured in China) seem to have much less problems than the taiwan models.
Basically SH serial number seems to be better than HT for the most part. Mines an SH and all is well except for a slight flicker on light grey colors (software problem 95% sure but not noticeable) Other SH models have been problem free from what I hear. I have no flex or hardware issues
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I don't agree with that. I ordered from Expansys and the unit was made in China and I had a yellow spot on my screen.
Decided to buy locally (2nd phone carrier branded HTC One X) and this is made from Taiwan and have no issues at all.
Chinese handsets are the ones that have problems.
I ended selling my 1st One X on eBay for $400 and was not really happy about the return policy with Expansys.

[Q] International One X updates in US?

I'm getting the One X today. I'm in Lebanon, so I'm not really sure where the thing is coming from, but my friend is buying it for me from his friend in Beirut, which is an area I trust more than where I am. Will the phone still get updates when I'm back home on AT&T? Because I heard about that 4.0.4 update and the battery sounds amazing. I'm coming from the HTC Vivid, and my battery doesn't last more than an hour anymore.
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it should. i have an int'l one x, uk version, on at&t (at&t go phone microsim) and have been getting updates on the same schedule as the uk.

How can I tell from where it is? I haven't gotten it yet, but not really sure from where its coming.
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using XDA

i purchased mine from a uk seller. it came in a box marked taiwan, so that's how i deduced it was manufactured in taiwan. i assumed my phone was for the uk, but i wasn't totally certain, because the language choices were pretty diverse. however, when the most recent ota update was rolled out, the update was not available for my one x (and i did check daily) until it was made available for the uk.
there are probably better ways of determining origin - try a forum search - but my one x worked well from day one, so i did not have the same incentive as some others to try to actually determine for which country it was designed.

Alright, thank you. I will have the phone pretty soon. I am very excited right now!
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using XDA

Quick question guys, does the international One X have warranty in the US? I just received mine from Amazon and the label on the box says "...-Warranty-..."
There is also documentation inside the box about a warranty but I am unsure if it's effective here in the US. Thanks

theROMinator said:
Quick question guys, does the international One X have warranty in the US? I just received mine from Amazon and the label on the box says "...-Warranty-..."
There is also documentation inside the box about a warranty but I am unsure if it's effective here in the US. Thanks
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i think one possibility is to check amazon's warranty policies if you bought through them. i believe they treat sold items differently depending on whether they were the direct retailer or the intermediary for another retailer.

1earful said:
i think one possibility is to check amazon's warranty policies if you bought through them. i believe they treat sold items differently depending on whether they were the direct retailer or the intermediary for another retailer.
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They sell it as: "HTC One X S720e Cellphone - No Warranty - White" but the box and documentation says otherwise lol. I guess i'll have to call them.