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I have gone through some posts that explain the difference between the two, but i am still confused which one suits my needs. I have just got myself a 16Gb Class 4 SDHC and want to install one of the two. I am on Stock Htc Rom , Unlocked BL and Rooted. What do I think about the two after going through various post here
1) Link2SD -> Supports different partitions, works with stock rom and is a good choice.
2) Data2SD -> Dont know if it supports different partitions or works on stock rom (Please make 'd33ps1x' make a Tutorial for Data2SD) but I have read that it performs best with Ext4 partition and is better than Link2SD under certain conditions ( Like Class of your Sd Card etc. ). The main reason I am confused is many users here opt for it over Link2Sd.
Please correct me if i am wrong and also suggest which will be best for me. ( Please dont ask me test them for myself as I dont know if Data2SD will work with my Stock Rom and a Class-4 SD card)
Along with this I will like to know If its worth to make a linux swap partition or use a swapper application from market or doing without swapping is absolutely fine.
I use my WFS to play HD games so please take this into consideration when answering the question
If you need a lot of memory, just go with DATA2SD.
hellnoob said:
I have gone through some posts that explain the difference between the two, but i am still confused which one suits my needs. I have just got myself a 16Gb Class 4 SDHC and want to install one of the two. I am on Stock Htc Rom , Unlocked BL and Rooted. What do I think about the two after going through various post here
1) Link2SD -> Supports different partitions, works with stock rom and is a good choice.
2) Data2SD -> Dont know if it supports different partitions or works on stock rom (Please make 'd33ps1x' make a Tutorial for Data2SD) but I have read that it performs best with Ext4 partition and is better than Link2SD under certain conditions ( Like Class of your Sd Card etc. ). The main reason I am confused is many users here opt for it over Link2Sd.
Please correct me if i am wrong and also suggest which will be best for me. ( Please dont ask me test them for myself as I dont know if Data2SD will work with my Stock Rom and a Class-4 SD card)
Along with this I will like to know If its worth to make a linux swap partition or use a swapper application from market or doing without swapping is absolutely fine.
I use my WFS to play HD games so please take this into consideration when answering the question
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main difference is i think that data2sd uses ext4 and link2sd uses ext2 ...
i think taht data2sd is a script that installs all the app that u choose to install, on sd card partition that u made.It redirects your phone into thinking that the partition of sd card, that you made is actually the internal phone memory, and it uses it like it's internal memory...
As for link2sd it can move apk/dex/lib files separately and then creates a link to it...
link2sd leaves apps usable when usb pc storage is mounted..i am too lazy to connect the phone to computer now, since im laying in the bed, but i thinkn data2sd does it too ...
others add stuff that i didnt write, if i didn't... or if i made mistake..
Does stock htc rom supports Data2SD (i think it doesnot because stock htc rom cannot handle Ext4 partition)
Link2SD only links your applications to an external partition on the sdcard. The partition can be fat32, ext2, ext3, or ext4 but not the default fat32 partition. However, it does not move the application data to the sdcard. This is actually good if you want performance. You also get to choose which apps you want to move to sdcard. This again is good for performance in that you can keep your frequent apps on the data partition.
Data2SD on the other combines your data partition with a partition on the sdcard. The system then sees the 1GB partition as the data partition and puts ALL the applications and the application data on that space. You have no control over which ones go to the sdcard.
App2SD needs to installed as a script from recovery while Link2SD is an apk. It's basically memory vs performance (Data2SD vs Link2SD).
I would suggest that you try Link2SD. I've installed over 70 apps on sd without any speed issues.
hellnoob said:
Does stock htc rom supports Data2SD (i think it doesnot because stock htc rom cannot handle Ext4 partition)
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there are some stock roms, that were remade, and they support data2sd... search for them ...
AceRoom said:
Link2SD only links your applications to an external partition on the sdcard. The partition can be fat32, ext2, ext3, or ext4 but not the default fat32 partition. However, it does not move the application data to the sdcard. This is actually good if you want performance. You also get to choose which apps you want to move to sdcard. This again is good for performance in that you can keep your frequent apps on the data partition.
Data2SD on the other combines your data partition with a partition on the sdcard. The system then sees the 1GB partition as the data partition and puts ALL the applications and the application data on that space. You have no control over which ones go to the sdcard.
App2SD needs to installed as a script from recovery while Link2SD is an apk. It's basically memory vs performance (Data2SD vs Link2SD).
I would suggest that you try Link2SD. I've installed over 70 apps on sd without any speed issues.
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I think that you are right ... link2sd is kind of best, BUT ... I use data2sd for some time now, and performance isn't bad at all ... It's actually good ...
p.s. i have a class 10 sd card ...
Help setting up Link2SD is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21119907#post21119907
I use link2sd without swap partition for my stock rom. Im not sure about swap function, so I don't use it.
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I'm now using S2E with CM7.2 RIM and it doesn't causes any problem to me. I think it's the best option, but which option do you think is the best?
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DanHidalgo said:
I'm now using S2E with CM7.2 RIM and it doesn't causes any problem to me. I think it's the best option, but which option do you think is the best?
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i use data2sd by jikantaru ... on my cm 7.2 and it works well... but many say that link2sd is better, and I'm too bored to change now ... I'm even too lazy to upgrade to latest nightly of cm ..
So i guess answer is link2sd but oppinions are different, and many of us like ability to change anything they like, and link2sd gives lots of options
And about data2sd, you just can't affect anything... It simply instals stuff on your ext4 partition, the end
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p.s. i have a class 10 sd card ...
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I unfortunately have a class 2 8GB. I didn't know about the classes when I bought this one to replace the stock 2GB and I bought it only a couple of months back. It has been decent enough though I can't really judge cause I haven't tried out faster ones. What kind of read and write speeds do you get?
AceRoom said:
I unfortunately have a class 2 8GB. I didn't know about the classes when I bought this one to replace the stock 2GB and I bought it only a couple of months back. It has been decent enough though I can't really judge cause I haven't tried out faster ones. What kind of read and write speeds do you get?
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there is a thread about sd card speeds, i will post it later on...
my sd card has something like 6 to 9 write speed, and read speeds were maxed out at about 15...on any card, so i guess its because of hardware... it couldn't go over that ... (speeds are in MB/s)...
[edit]: here is the thread i mentioned http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1472314
hellnoob said:
I have gone through some posts that explain the difference between the two, but i am still confused which one suits my needs. I have just got myself a 16Gb Class 4 SDHC and want to install one of the two. I am on Stock Htc Rom , Unlocked BL and Rooted. What do I think about the two after going through various post here
1) Link2SD -> Supports different partitions, works with stock rom and is a good choice.
2) Data2SD -> Dont know if it supports different partitions or works on stock rom (Please make 'd33ps1x' make a Tutorial for Data2SD) but I have read that it performs best with Ext4 partition and is better than Link2SD under certain conditions ( Like Class of your Sd Card etc. ). The main reason I am confused is many users here opt for it over Link2Sd.
Please correct me if i am wrong and also suggest which will be best for me. ( Please dont ask me test them for myself as I dont know if Data2SD will work with my Stock Rom and a Class-4 SD card)
Along with this I will like to know If its worth to make a linux swap partition or use a swapper application from market or doing without swapping is absolutely fine.
I use my WFS to play HD games so please take this into consideration when answering the question
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i use link to sd...
and i made a partition of 4gb......
and know wanna make of 1gb only.....means i wanna delete 4 gb partion without loosing my data....of 16 gb...
plsss help
hello THERE
i just want to ask what the best ext2 or ext 4 for link2sd??
I use ext2. Don't really know the difference between the two. o-o
slicktrick22 said:
hello THERE
i just want to ask what the best ext2 or ext 4 for link2sd??
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the best would be ext4, as it is the most recent and allows faster data transfers but the downside of it is that some roms may not support it meanwhile ext2 is more of the universal type; widely used format.
ps: you can play safe by choosing ext3 instead
i just read other forums thats ext 4 is much better...but i dont remeber the forum link....
EXT2 is old
EXT4 may not work on some ROMs but blazing speed
EXT3 safe and fast.
PS. Don't risk repartitioning your SD with EXT4 just because it is the fastest. Choose to EXT3.
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like it
hehe . ..
ext3 will be sufficient for now.
ext4 requires kernel support... still then if you want that try merruk's kernel, it supports ext4
Millan.SIS said:
ext3 will be sufficient for now.
ext4 requires kernel support... still then if you want that try merruk's kernel, it supports ext4
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Tried merruk's kernel before, didn't work for me. Any idea how to make it work? I already have 1 custom bin count, don't wanna add another 1 for nothing.
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CarlDeanCatabay said:
Tried merruk's kernel before, didn't work for me. Any idea how to make it work? I already have 1 custom bin count, don't wanna add another 1 for nothing.
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backup ur data
Use cwm » advanced» partition sdcard....
Make one ext3 partition less than 512mb & the rest fat32
Ext3 will be used as the extended internal memory for linking apps
fat32 will be mounted as your sdcard
Now reboot
Open link2sd, it will ask you for mount script » select ext3
Select settings » auto link...
now all set
Written this in brief..
For kernel flash use mai77 method
No bin count as it'll flash using cwm
Millan.SIS said:
backup ur data
Use cwm » advanced» partition sdcard....
Make one ext3 partition less than 512mb & the rest fat32
Ext3 will be used as the extended internal memory for linking apps
fat32 will be mounted as your sdcard
Now reboot
Open link2sd, it will ask you for mount script » select ext3
Select settings » auto link...
now all set
Written this in brief..
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Partitioning my SD Card via CWM doesn't work for me. I use Mini Partition Magic. Still not working.
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what is bin count???
what will happen if bin get high like 5, 6, 7?
CarlDeanCatabay said:
Partitioning my SD Card via CWM doesn't work for me. I use Mini Partition Magic. Still not working.
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What do you mean by "doesnt work"? Are you not getting the option to mount the 2nd partition in Link2SD?
mrdoods said:
what is bin count???
what will happen if bin get high like 5, 6, 7?
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It is an indication that you flashed a firmware which is non-stock .. in some samsung service centres warranty will not be considered if you have bin count..In only few countries though as no one cares to check them and they either dont have the knowledge to check them..all they know is "KIES" xD
I have a bin counter of 62 ..nothing happens..Just flash them freely
hitme987 said:
What do you mean by "doesnt work"? Are you not getting the option to mount the 2nd partition in Link2SD?
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can i aks? i made a ext2... then when i try to move my apps using link2sd its not working then i use a2sd it its "not enough space" i check to mini tool its empty and i try BTE ($ su a2sd cachesdreset) its said no ext mounted.. i try to reformat but its still the same.. now using internal memory..
hitme987 said:
It is an indication that you flashed a firmware which is non-stock .. in some samsung service centres warranty will not be considered if you have bin count..In only few countries though as no one cares to check them and they either dont have the knowledge to check them..all they know is "KIES" xD
I have a bin counter of 62 ..nothing happens..Just flash them freely
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+1 thanks...
mrdoods said:
can i aks? i made a ext2... then when i try to move my apps using link2sd its not working then i use a2sd it its "not enough space" i check to mini tool its empty and i try BTE ($ su a2sd cachesdreset) its said no ext mounted.. i try to reformat but its still the same.. now using internal memory..
+1 thanks...
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Hmm...which ROM are you using?
You must use a custom ROM having a2sd darktremor enabled to enable a2sd..
Im not sure about L2SD..But I can guide you...Did you get a "Mount 2nd Partition" message when you first run L2SD? Otherwise Click Left touch button-> Click More -> Click the "Recreate mount Scripts" On Link2SD and restart your device..
Go to any installed user application and on bottom it shows " Create Link" ..Press that and if it continues to show linking options then you have L2SD perfectly working..
hitme987 said:
Hmm...which ROM are you using?
You must use a custom ROM having a2sd darktremor enabled to enable a2sd..
Im not sure about L2SD..But I can guide you...Did you get a "Mount 2nd Partition" message when you first run L2SD? Otherwise Click Left touch button-> Click More -> Click the "Recreate mount Scripts" On Link2SD and restart your device..
Go to any installed user application and on bottom it shows " Create Link" ..Press that and if it continues to show linking options then you have L2SD perfectly working..
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I use creed and chobits... now i use repencis that have tutorial of BTE...
i try later to flash creed and use your guide L2SD..
mrdoods said:
I use creed and chobits... now i use repencis that have tutorial of BTE...
i try later to flash creed and use your guide L2SD..
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For this to work you need to have a secondary partition of ext3/ext2 ..ext3 is preferred..Use CWM to repartition the SD card..
Creed and repencis supports both a2SD and L2SD ..chobits supports L2SD..
You can try this guide by CarlDeanCatabay which describes the L2SD process:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614700
I prefer L2SD over A2SD as L2SD has more advanced options..
Got it working with chobitsdigitalis v1.6 ROM + stock kernel. SD Card partitioned Ext3, dunno why it doesn't work with merruk's kernel.
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CarlDeanCatabay said:
Got it working with chobitsdigitalis v1.6 ROM + stock kernel. SD Card partitioned Ext3, dunno why it doesn't work with merruk's kernel.
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merruk kernel supports only ext4 and it has some bugs..he is uploading a new version so expect a new one soon!
how about other kernel... or only stock kernel work on chobits for l2sd
Hey,I am going to "clean" install CM 7.2 Stable.I am done with Custom MTD Partitions and want to set up an ext partition on the SD card and move apps there.
Preparing for "S2E"(simple2ext:https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.krikun.s2e&hl=en )
I have got 2GB SD Card.
What should be the ideal configuration for a 2GB card in terms of :
(1)Ext Size
(2)Swap size
And what should it be ? Ext2 or Ext4 ?
According to this :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432459
“Choose Ext2, Ext3 or Ext4 for partition type based on whether your kernel supports Ext4. If it does choose it! If you don't know choose Ext2 to be safe.” Now how to find out whether your kernel supports it or not ?
Does "swap" really make any difference ?What’s up with this “swap” partition ?
It’s so confusing.Some people claim that “swap” is like virtual RAM and more RAM means a more efficient (and faster) device.
Here are the posts supporting “swap” :
http://www.mod2xtreme.com/showthrea...crease-RAM-using-Swap-File-and-Swap-Partition
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/...-the-wildfire/page__gopid__330791#entry330791
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/44675-how-to-configure-a-sd-ext-on-htc-buzz-wildfire/
While according to “Cyanogenmod” (http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Swap_and_Compcache ) and some member swap doesn’t make any diff .on android devices.
If that’s true and swape is useless then why so many forums going gaga over it on XDA at the first place ???It makes no sense. So bewildering.
Any suggestion ?Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
You should try 256Mb or 512Mb ext2 partition as per your convenience with 0 swap size.
After partitioning your card you need to install an a2sd script and use a2sdgui app to move apps.
Or else you could install link2sd app and i guess that moves apps to ext partition without needing a script.(haven't tried it though)
Wasimk32 said:
You should try 256Mb or 512Mb ext2 partition as per your convenience with 0 swap size.
After partitioning your card you need to install an a2sd script and use a2sdgui app to move apps.
Or else you could install link2sd app and i guess that moves apps to ext partition without needing a script.(haven't tried it though)
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Thanks for the reply,so you mean "swap" doesn't make any difference in speed and efficiency ?
I am a bit baffled.How about "S2E (simple2ext)" method ?
I have read about that here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1189249
Is that a good idea ?Any suggestion ?Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
optimusodd said:
Thanks for the reply,so you mean "swap" doesn't make any difference in speed and efficiency ?
I am a bit baffled.How about "S2E (simple2ext)" method ?
I have read about that here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1189249
Is that a good idea ?Any suggestion ?Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
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Have a nandroid backup and give it a try.
Wasimk32 said:
Have a nandroid backup and give it a try.
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Okay,What about "swap" ?
Why do some guys use swap ?Is it unnecessary ?
Here ost #12:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1189249&page=2
What should it be ? ext2 or ext4 ?
optimusodd said:
Okay,What about "swap" ?
Why do some guys use swap ?Is it unnecessary ?
Here ost #12:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1189249&page=2
What should it be ? ext2 or ext4 ?
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Swap is used when you run out of RAM space.I dont think we need it on our wildfire.Just select 0 as swap size.create SD partition from recovery,that would be easy as you don't need to be confused between ext2 or ext4.
Wasimk32 said:
Swap is used when you run out of RAM space.I dont think we need it on our wildfire.Just select 0 as swap size.create SD partition from recovery,that would be easy as you don't need to be confused between ext2 or ext4.
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I have read in some forums that "swap" increases the RAM i.e more speed and efficiency,no ???
Here is the page:
http://www.mod2xtreme.com/showthread.php?13050-SGY-GUIDE-Increase-RAM-using-Swap-File-and-Swap-Partition
Just wondering,if that can be done on Wildfire.
Android apps are specially programed to write out very specific information, making Android's Memory Manager more efficient that swap.
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Scratch0805 said:
Android apps are specially programed to write out very specific information, making Android's Memory Manager more efficient that swap.
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That means this "swap" thing is just a hype and of no use on Android devices ?
optimusodd said:
That means this "swap" thing is just a hype and of no use on Android devices ?
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You've kind of answered your own question with the link you've provided, if you think swap may be worth using, backup your SD card create a swap partition and give it a run for a while, if you think it isnt then backup everything again and create a partition without it. I had swap enabled when I first created a partition but saw no benefit at all.
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Scratch0805 said:
You've kind of answered your own question with the link you've provided, if you think swap may be worth using, backup your SD card create a swap partition and give it a run for a while, if you think it isnt then backup everything again and create a partition without it. I had swap enabled when I first created a partition but saw no benefit at all.
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Okay,I am thinking of giving this "swap" thing a try.:fingers-crossed:
Again,I have got a 2GB SD Card.
What should be the ideal configuration for a 2GB card in terms of :
(1)Ext Size (What should it be ? ext2 or ext4 ?)
(2)Swap size
Any suggestion ?
I am gonna flash CM 7.2 Stable and use "S2E (simple2ext)".
optimusodd said:
Okay,I am thinking of giving this "swap" thing a try.:fingers-crossed:
Again,I have got a 2GB SD Card.
What should be the ideal configuration for a 2GB card in terms of :
(1)Ext Size (What should it be ? ext2 or ext4 ?)
(2)Swap size
Any suggestion ?
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I am gonna flash CM 7.2 Stable and use "S2E (simple2ext)".
optimusodd said:
I am gonna flash CM 7.2 Stable and use "S2E (simple2ext)".
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I successfully made sd-ext and moved apps there (http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/44675-how-to-configure-a-sd-ext-on-htc-buzz-wildfire/), so now I have 170 MB of free space for new apps!!
Question: I noticed that my phone slowed down a lot.... does it depend on SD type (read/write speed)?
Which is the best type / brand of SD?
Is there any other setting I could optimize for speed, when having Sd-Ext enabled?
marcellen said:
I successfully made sd-ext and moved apps there (http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/44675-how-to-configure-a-sd-ext-on-htc-buzz-wildfire/), so now I have 170 MB of free space for new apps!!
Question: I noticed that my phone slowed down a lot.... does it depend on SD type (read/write speed)?
Which is the best type / brand of SD?
Is there any other setting I could optimize for speed, when having Sd-Ext enabled?
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Moving Applications data to sd-ext slows your phone down.Don’t move “application data” to sd-ext.
I suppose you are using “S2E”,right ?What’s the format of your sd-ext ? ext3 or ext4 ?
Go through this thread :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=917377
Personally, I prefer“S2E”(supports mounting sd-ext as ext4)
https://github.com/OlegKrikun/S2E
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.krikun.s2e&feature=search_result
(It works only with CyanogenMod7 and CyanogenMod9 )
Other apps you can use :
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.buak.Link2SD&hl=en
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.a0soft.gphone.app2sd&hl=en
Yes ,your card’s speed depends on the class of your card. An SD card's speed is measured by how quickly information can be read from, or written to, the card.Speed varies with the class of the card…Class 2 (2 megabytes per second), Class 4 (4 megabytes/second),Class 6 (6 megabytes/second) and so on…
You can find reviews here :
http://www.testfreaks.com/memory-cards/
Will be helpful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=826836
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/sd-speed-test-2009-10.htm
You might be looking for these apps : (Read the description carefully before installation)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.krikun.freespace
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ales.veluscek.sdtools
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.mehrmann.sdbooster
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vaelek.sdspeedboost&hl=en
Some other hacks you can try : (Do It At Your Own Risk! I have never tried them)
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...-200-with-a-simple-tweak-hands-on-benchmarks/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1010807
If you are running out of internal memory,you can increase it through Custom MTD Partition :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1233340
HTH,Cheers!!
I used ext3, what experience do you have with ext4?
marcellen said:
I used ext3, what experience do you have with ext4?
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It's working great and ext3 should work fine too.
Acually ext4 provides better performance with journalling.
If you use an Old CWM recovery, it will convert it back to ext 3 when you backup/restore.
ext3=ext2+journalling
As ext4 is newer file system,new features have improved the performance and reliability of the filesystem when compared to ext3.
Journaling can be bad for the life of an sd-card (coz you do more writes).If you are not worried about life of the card, and the choice is based on filesystem performance only then ext4>ext3>ext2.
Ext4 can be used with journalling switched off.So "ext4 without journalling" will be best in my opinion.
There is a debate going on over it,check that out :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=800353
Hello. I am new to this forum. I am curious how many people really use a swap partition and what is the method of of using swap in htc wildire s?
I am well aware of Linux OS and understand the need of swap but in case of android does it really improves something?
Hi.I will try to explain you what i know: :laugh:
-swap partition is needed to work some ROM's,combinated with ext partitions.
-you can create swap partition with MiniToolWizard
-in same time,you can create with CWM recovery.
If you need,i will give you a link for MiniTool.
If i helped you,please click "Thank's" button.Have a nice day !!
Does android automatically detect SWAP Partition on SD Card and utilize it automatically?
Yes(i think).
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does it? i thought the kernel had to had zram enabeled to allow swap use? i might be wrong though..
Most roms auto-detect, but I'd recommend checking with the devs before partitioning your sd card.
Also, unless you have a class 6 or upwards, it won't really do any good.
omnomnomkimiiee said:
Most roms auto-detect, but I'd recommend checking with the devs before partitioning your sd card.
Also, unless you have a class 6 or upwards, it won't really do any good.
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Where did u find that info?? Is class 4 mmc that bad????:s
never use a swap partition on any android phones. It does no good. The swap partition are made with your sd card which is more than 10 times slower than your internal memory. When an app is loaded or is sent to swap partition cache memory, it takes time to copy or load the files.
Android already has a system for moving unused apps to cache memory. So, let android do its job.
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never use a swap partition on any android phones. It does no good. The swap partition are made with your sd card which is more than 10 times slower than your internal memory. When an app is loaded or is sent to swap partition cache memory, it takes time to copy or load the files.
Android already has a system for moving unused apps to cache memory. So, let android do its job.
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Well thats some info for me thanks a lot.
.xxx. said:
never use a swap partition on any android phones. It does no good. The swap partition are made with your sd card which is more than 10 times slower than your internal memory. When an app is loaded or is sent to swap partition cache memory, it takes time to copy or load the files.
Android already has a system for moving unused apps to cache memory. So, let android do its job.
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This can make phone slower? Just that ?
How can i know if the swap partition is enable ?(i don't know if i have a swapt partition,i forgot that)
And if i have,all i need is to delete this ,just that ?Or i need to reinstall the rom ?
edu_stoicescu said:
This can make phone slower? Just that ?
How can i know if the swap partition is enable ?(i don't know if i have a swapt partition,i forgot that)
And if i have,all i need is to delete this ,just that ?Or i need to reinstall the rom ?
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Just ignore his comment. We need Linux swap. Without it phone gets laggy. I tested it myself.
Download minitool partition wizard home edition. Its free Google it. After installing it and insert ur sdcard via card reader and run the program.it will show ur partitions.
You don't need to uninstall ur system. Just make nandroid backup using recovery. Re format only the ext and swap partition. Based on wat ext u had earlier. All partitions should be primary.
Then from advance recovery restore sd-ext.
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@Edu: just search xda for details of swap partition. There have been number of discussions regarding it and all have ended up denying the use of swap partition. These have been comfirmed by much experienced devs, who have been cooking roms for more than 3 years. But still if you dont believe, i would recommend you to google a little and then make the decision.
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@Edu: just search xda for details of swap partition. There have been number of discussions regarding it and all have ended up denying the use of swap partition. These have been comfirmed by much experienced devs, who have been cooking roms for more than 3 years. But still if you dont believe, i would recommend you to google a little and then make the decision.
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But sir without it the phone gets very laggy. Means every games run slower. The antutu gpu score gets lowered.
U can easily get 645-630 3D with swap. But without it u can't cross 615. That may seem as little gain but for games it becomes a big issue.
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Sorry couldn't upload the pics as modify isnt supporting upload of pic.
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Maybe that is because the extra cache memory are directly transferred to swap memory. Games which require huge cache memory can be of profit. thanks for the screens btw
@op : just take nand back up and back up your sd card. Try the swap partition thing and if it is beneficial, go ahead or else you know what to do
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Hi, i'm new here so i'ld really appreciate anyone who can really help me on this:
I created a swap partition(256mb) on my sd card for my HTC wfs. now after making series of research on swap partition, i found out that swap parttion is necessarily not needed and even if i av to use the 256mb i allocated is too much. Now i need help on how to delete the swap partition without losing my DATA ON MY SDCARD. PLEASE ANYONE WITH THE RIGHT HELP
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Hi, i'm new here so i'ld really appreciate anyone who can really help me on this:
I created a swap partition(256mb) on my sd card for my HTC wfs. now after making series of research on swap partition, i found out that swap parttion is necessarily not needed and even if i av to use the 256mb i allocated is too much. Now i need help on how to delete the swap partition without losing my DATA ON MY SDCARD. PLEASE ANYONE WITH THE RIGHT HELP
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that's kinda not possible i guess..with mini partition tool you can delete swap or ext3 partition and create ext4 visa versa..but if you wanted only fat32 it isn't possible.
either if you have ext3 or ext4..open mini partiiton tool..delete swap and delete ext3 or ext4(which one you have)
and create partition(ext3 or ext4) from remaining free space...in this your fat32 will be unchanged..
but obviously ext3/4 will be deleted..bt its okay to hv swap partition..256 MB hasn't big space..the whole concept of swap derived frm link2sd i guess..latest int2ext scripts dont need swap..but int2extv2+ need.
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Hi, i'm new here so i'ld really appreciate anyone who can really help me on this:
I created a swap partition(256mb) on my sd card for my HTC wfs. now after making series of research on swap partition, i found out that swap parttion is necessarily not needed and even if i av to use the 256mb i allocated is too much. Now i need help on how to delete the swap partition without losing my DATA ON MY SDCARD. PLEASE ANYONE WITH THE RIGHT HELP
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Copy all of your data to your pc, then format the card via clockworkmod recovery. It should remove the partition. If not you can try gparted for linux or easeus partition master for windows pal.
If your trying to keep your ext partition but without a swap then copy your data to the pc, then select partition sdcard from clockworkmod recovery. Just don't select a swap and you will be fine
Oh, and make a nandroid backup to back up whats on your ext partition
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crossfire77 said:
that's kinda not possible i guess..with mini partition tool you can delete swap or ext3 partition and create ext4 visa versa..but if you wanted only fat32 it isn't possible.
either if you have ext3 or ext4..open mini partiiton tool..delete swap and delete ext3 or ext4(which one you have)
and create partition(ext3 or ext4) from remaining free space...in this your fat32 will be unchanged..
but obviously ext3/4 will be deleted..bt its okay to hv swap partition..256 MB hasn't big space..the whole concept of swap derived frm link2sd i guess..latest int2ext scripts dont need swap..but int2extv2+ need.
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thanks dude really appreciate but going by what you said i have ext3 and already used a2sd that means if i delete ext3 definately i'll lose my data. that is what i'm trying to avoid but since you said my 256mb aint much a big deal, i think i wld leave it then.
Thanks a bunch.
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heavy_metal_man said:
Copy all of your data to your pc, then format the card via clockworkmod recovery. It should remove the partition. If not you can try gparted for linux or easeus partition master for windows pal.
If your trying to keep your ext partition but without a swap then copy your data to the pc, then select partition sdcard from clockworkmod recovery. Just don't select a swap and you will be fine
Oh, and make a nandroid backup to back up whats on your ext partition
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obviously i will lose my data......thanks anyway.
Hello
After using some of custom rom's, i returned to stock rom because of battery life. And now i have problem with flashing mods in recovery (like extended power menu). I have about 40MB free space on phone, my apps are linked2sd, my rom is deodexed with this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1600805 .
When I'm flashing something in recovery, after system startup i see a message about low internal memory level. Some app's are missing (like google play). Link2sd is going crazy, sometimes he said that he doesn't have root access, other time he tells me that he need debugging USB on, I'm turning it on but he tells mi it again and i can see that debugging is off. When I finaly launch link2sd and I'm moving first app to link2sd, he shows me a progress bar and I'm waiting for weeks and nothing is happening.
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Hello
After using some of custom rom's, i returned to stock rom because of battery life. And now i have problem with flashing mods in recovery (like extended power menu). I have about 40MB free space on phone, my apps are linked2sd, my rom is deodexed with this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1600805 .
When I'm flashing something in recovery, after system startup i see a message about low internal memory level. Some app's are missing (like google play). Link2sd is going crazy, sometimes he said that he doesn't have root access, other time he tells me that he need debugging USB on, I'm turning it on but he tells mi it again and i can see that debugging is off. When I finaly launch link2sd and I'm moving first app to link2sd, he shows me a progress bar and I'm waiting for weeks and nothing is happening.
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your rom is deodexed so its good.but try int2ext+ scripts.it ll work good.then try mods.
crossfire77 said:
your rom is deodexed so its good.but try int2ext+ scripts.it ll work good.then try mods.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1716124
INT2EXT+ requires EXT2/3/4, i have FAT32 because of non-supporting EXT4 by stock ROM also 100mb internal is needed for every 500mb sd-ext, even on a clear ROM i have something about 80
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1716124
INT2EXT+ requires EXT2/3/4, i have FAT32 because of non-supporting EXT4 by stock ROM also 100mb internal is needed for every 500mb sd-ext, even on a clear ROM i have something about 80
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use ext3 man.even stock kernel support it.i am using same int2ext+ with ext3 on my deodexed stock rom.
and dont worry about that 100 MB..wildfire s have around 512 MB total internal space include whole system.so you can partition your sdcard upto 2 GB. bt keep it 500 MB or 1 GB.it will works fine.
that script put ur system apps on sd-ext and dont wry nothing will slow down..same as link2sd.bt it works very good.
but do clean install like flashed that script after installing rom.i am not sure about it ll work on installed rom or not so.
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use ext3 man.even stock kernel support it.i am using same int2ext+ with ext3 on my deodexed stock rom.
and dont worry about that 100 MB..wildfire s have around 512 MB total internal space include whole system.so you can partition your sdcard upto 2 GB. bt keep it 500 MB or 1 GB.it will works fine.
that script put ur system apps on sd-ext and dont wry nothing will slow down..same as link2sd.bt it works very good.
but do clean install like flashed that script after installing rom.i am not sure about it ll work on installed rom or not so.
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So, if I would want to change sd-ext to ext3 i would have to format it, and i will lose all my apps, so maybe i'll try to install mods on a clean rom
niziu said:
So, if I would want to change sd-ext to ext3 i would have to format it, and i will lose all my apps, so maybe i'll try to install mods on a clean rom
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yeah as u wish.what is ur current sd-ext partition?
i think link2sd works with ext2/ext3 right?
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yeah as u wish.what is ur current sd-ext partition?
i think link2sd works with ext2/ext3 right?
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FAT32 because of non-supporting ext4 by rom, it will support ext3?
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FAT32 because of non-supporting ext4 by rom, it will support ext3?
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man link2sd needs also ext3/ext4paritions to work.
fat32 is only for audio video and other data.for sd-ext scripts,link2sd needs partition like ext3/ext4
link2sd wont work with fat32.
and dont worry about ext4.it only work with some device and some roms major cm9/cm10.
use ext3.it works all the time and everywhere
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crossfire77 said:
man link2sd needs also ext3/ext4paritions to work.
fat32 is only for audio video and other data.for sd-ext scripts,link2sd needs partition like ext3/ext4
link2sd wont work with fat32.
and dont worry about ext4.it only work with some device and some roms major cm9/cm10.
use ext3.it works all the time and everywhere
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for link2sd or any other scripts you need to partition your sd card:
1) FAT32 REMAINING
2) EXT3/EXT4 ( 1 GB)
3) LINUX SWAP (512 MB)
crossfire77 said:
man link2sd needs also ext3/ext4paritions to work.
fat32 is only for audio video and other data.for sd-ext scripts,link2sd needs partition like ext3/ext4
link2sd wont work with fat32.
and dont worry about ext4.it only work with some device and some roms major cm9/cm10.
use ext3.it works all the time and everywhere
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Wow, seriously? I wasn't really matter about filesystem when i was creating sd-ext. I'll check it tomorrow, but i think it will solve my problem, thank you so much
niziu said:
Wow, seriously? I wasn't really matter about filesystem when i was creating sd-ext. I'll check it tomorrow, but i think it will solve my problem, thank you so much
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yeah.sd-ext meaning ext2/ext3/ext4 partition.
so how link2sd works without this partitions?
when you installed link2sd and open app.it will show you to mount partition like ext2/ext3/ext4.so which is your partition you should click on that,then restart your phone and then link2sd ll work.
same with other scripts..no scripts works with fat32.
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yeah.sd-ext meaning ext2/ext3/ext4 partition.
so how link2sd works without this partitions?
when you installed link2sd and open app.it will show you to mount partition like ext2/ext3/ext4.so which is your partition you should click on that,then restart your phone and then link2sd ll work.
same with other scripts..no scripts works with fat32.
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Link2sd asked for sd-ext filesystem and i could choose ext2/ext3/ext4 but also fat16 and fat 32
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Link2sd asked for sd-ext filesystem and i could choose ext2/ext3/ext4 but also fat16 and fat 32
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haha..but you knew results.it wont work good.
tell me how big your sdcard i ll tell you how to make partition.and yeah for your apps.you can backup with titanium backup.
2GB
2 GB isnt sufficient.
But you can partition it to,
1 GB Fat32
500 MB ext3
500 MB linux swap
All partitions are primary.
Then try link2sd.
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2 GB isnt sufficient.
But you can partition it to,
1 GB Fat32
500 MB ext3
500 MB linux swap
All partitions are primary.
Then try link2sd.
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Ok, thanks