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Can i get s-off with Ubuntu 10.04? I already have root now i need s-off.
Albinoman said:
Can i get s-off with Ubuntu 10.04? I already have root now i need s-off.
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You mean can you use a computer running ubuntu to s-off your phone? Not that im aware of, but it might be possible. What android version and hboot are you on?
Albinoman said:
Can i get s-off with Ubuntu 10.04? I already have root now i need s-off.
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Go to unrevoked.com and click unrevoked forever and follow the links to transfer the HBOOT flashable zip that will enable S-OFF. You also may have to downgrade your radio to do it. It can work in ubuntu. Wait what am I saying? The OS you're running doesn't matter as all you need to do is read the instructions on unrevoked.com and transfer the zip file as directed there.
tiny4579 said:
Go to unrevoked.com and click unrevoked forever and follow the links to transfer the HBOOT flashable zip that will enable S-OFF. You also may have to downgrade your radio to do it. It can work in ubuntu. Wait what am I saying? The OS you're running doesn't matter as all you need to do is read the instructions on unrevoked.com and transfer the zip file as directed there.
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Will that work with the new hboot though?
Guys im on aokp 4.0.4 and have hboot-1.02
P.S. Im a dev for the droid 2 so im not a scared little newb lol
Albinoman said:
Guys im on aokp 4.0.4 and have hboot-1.02
P.S. Im a dev for the droid 2 so im not a scared little newb lol
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Cant hurt to try unrevoked forever patch http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever, but you will need to downgrade the radio to a supported version. Not sure if an unlocked bootloader will let you flash a radio or not.
cmlusco said:
Cant hurt to try unrevoked forever patch http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever, but you will need to downgrade the radio to a supported version. Not sure if an unlocked bootloader will let you flash a radio or not.
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It should allow it. It allows fastboot when my .92 bootloader didn't. Not sure about if S-OFF will even work on 1.02. I always thought it was more open than S-OFF since it was released on the Inc.
You can easily unlock the bootloader the HTC dev way using Ubuntu. This will allow you to flash a custom recovery, and from there, custom ROM's, stuff like that. To get true s-off, though, the easy way is to use Unrevoked Forever, and that requires a Windows machine (and it won't work in Virtualbox either, at least it didn't for me). I think there are other (older) guides for getting s-off that use adb, and those methods would work just fine in Ubuntu. I found it easier to boot into Windows.
Edit: I'm not sure if you can get s-off after you're on the 1.02 bootloader.
Ok now im confused.
musical_chairs said:
You can easily unlock the bootloader the HTC dev way using Ubuntu. This will allow you to flash a custom recovery, and from there, custom ROM's, stuff like that. To get true s-off, though, the easy way is to use Unrevoked Forever, and that requires a Windows machine (and it won't work in Virtualbox either, at least it didn't for me). I think there are other (older) guides for getting s-off that use adb, and those methods would work just fine in Ubuntu. I found it easier to boot into Windows.
Edit: I'm not sure if you can get s-off after you're on the 1.02 bootloader.
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His bootloader already is unlocked.
Unrevoked requires a pc, unrevoked forever does not.
I have never heard of using adb to get s-off, other than using it to downgrade to froyo to use unrevoked to get root and s-off. Speaking of, you could downgrade to froyo and then use unrevoked to get root and s-off. Check out this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1506258, you would want to start at step 28, as i assume you have already done 1 - 27, htcdev unlock bootloader, fastboot flash cwm, flash su thru recovery, and install busybox. You will need adb and fastboot setup on your pc to downgrade.
At the top of the bootloader screen it says Locked (oow). Even though i already unlocked my bootloader.
Albinoman said:
At the top of the bootloader screen it says Locked (oow). Even though i already unlocked my bootloader.
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Do you still have the unlock_code.bin file htc gave you when you unlocked it? May still be on your computet in the same folder where fastboot.exe is. If so fastboot flash it back to the phone ( fastboot flash unlocktoken unlock_code.bin )
Actually i do! I found the email they sent it in. But my computer wont even notice my phone while in fastboot
Albinoman said:
Actually i do! I found the email they sent it in. But my computer wont even notice my phone while in fastboot
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Try calling the fastboot binary with sudo. I had that problem on Mint but only for the Inc not the Nexus and using sudo for fastboot solved it.
Ok guys my bootloader is now unlocked. Can i flash anything i want now or do i still need s-off to flash kernels and radios?
Albinoman said:
Ok guys my bootloader is now unlocked. Can i flash anything i want now or do i still need s-off to flash kernels and radios?
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Pretty sure you're going to need s-off for the kernels and radios. Everything else should be fine.
If you've got a custom recovery installed, though, you should be able to s-off with Unrevoked forever by just flashing an update.zip. Unless there's an issue with the newer firmware that I'm unaware of.
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Pretty sure you're going to need s-off for the kernels and radios. Everything else should be fine.
If you've got a custom recovery installed, though, you should be able to s-off with Unrevoked forever by just flashing an update.zip. Unless there's an issue with the newer firmware that I'm unaware of.
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Don't i need to change my radio to flash the unrevoked?
Albinoman said:
Ok guys my bootloader is now unlocked. Can i flash anything i want now or do i still need s-off to flash kernels and radios?
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Do you have cwm recovery, superuser, and busybox installed?
Im not sure what all you can flash thru hboot with an unlocked bootloader. But you can flash roms mods and kernels thru cwm recovery.
If you can flash radios thru hboot, downgrade to a unrevoked supported radio, and then try flashing the unrevoked forever zip thru cwm recovery and see if it gives you s-off.
I have everything installed. So at this moment i could flash a kernel?
Albinoman said:
I have everything installed. So at this moment i could flash a kernel?
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Yes you should be able to flash kernels thru cwm recovery just like you would a rom or a mod.
I made a mistake rooting a friends droid incredible and left s-on, I have clockwork but it cant flash anything, I presume its because of the s-on. I wiped the phone without a backup to install miui, so I now have a droid incredible that can only get into hboot, clockwork, and fastboot. It also will not install 31img.zips, Yes ive renamed them correctly I just call them 31's. Help please?
You need to flash an RUU in the form of PB31IMG.zip. It needs to be named PB31IMG.zip and on the root of a FAT32 formatted sdcard. If you use the froyo RUU on pvillecomp.com you can use unrevoked to root again though your friend will just want it working.
My HBOOT wont give me the option to flash, it finds it and checks it, but wont let me install. im downloading the froyo ruu right now in hopes that it will connect through fastboot and do it.
What is your hboot version?
Tiny you are more knowledgeable at this than I, but I was wondering
1) would using PB31IMG's fail if used on the 1.02 hboot?
2) If they were to use the unrevoked tool to flash s-off, could they install a rom without having to boot into the already wiped phone?
I am on hboot version 1.02. My nexus and optimus s were so simple.
(sorry for double post) RUU's will not work
deathangel1496 said:
I am on hboot version 1.02. My nexus and optimus s were so simple.
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Have you used the htc dev site to unkock the bootloader? If not you need to do that, then fastboot flash cwm recovery, then flash superuser thru cwm recovery.
SlimSnoopOS said:
What is your hboot version?
Tiny you are more knowledgeable at this than I, but I was wondering
1) would using PB31IMG's fail if used on the 1.02 hboot?
2) If they were to use the unrevoked tool to flash s-off, could they install a rom without having to boot into the already wiped phone?
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I would try flashing unrevoked forever before doing anything else. Logically this would get you s-off and allow you to flash a ROM. I wouldn't run straight to unlocking your bootloader because it is a lot harder to reverse that than it is to reverse the effects of unrevoked forever. (in the long run, that is. right now there would be no reason to reverse either)
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I would try flashing unrevoked forever before doing anything else. Logically this would get you s-off and allow you to flash a ROM. I wouldn't run straight to unlocking your bootloader because it is a lot harder to reverse that than it is to reverse the effects of unrevoked forever. (in the long run, that is. right now there would be no reason to reverse either)
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actually bootloader is easy to lock. I think it's fastboot oem lock. You can unlock it again using the same token you used to unlock before that you should save if you decide to do that. Unrevoked forever only works on certain radio versions. With an unlocked bootloader you should be able to flash any PB31IMG.zip as well as flash with fastboot. With S-OFF I know you can flash custom PB31IMG.zip and also older RUUs.
tiny4579 said:
actually bootloader is easy to lock. I think it's fastboot oem lock. You can unlock it again using the same token you used to unlock before that you should save if you decide to do that. Unrevoked forever only works on certain radio versions. With an unlocked bootloader you should be able to flash any PB31IMG.zip as well as flash with fastboot. With S-OFF I know you can flash custom PB31IMG.zip and also older RUUs.
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Yes, but doesn't it then say 're-locked bootloader' or something to that effect where verizon or whoever else could tell that it has been unlocked before and therefore void any warranty? Whereas the s-off tool can be reversed using the s-on tool and nobody has to know anything was ever there. I don't have any experience in that department, I'm just speculating based on things that I have read.
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Yes, but doesn't it then say 're-locked bootloader' or something to that effect where verizon or whoever else could tell that it has been unlocked before and therefore void any warranty? Whereas the s-off tool can be reversed using the s-on tool and nobody has to know anything was ever there. I don't have any experience in that department, I'm just speculating based on things that I have read.
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Maybe, but I think when you submit for an unlock token is when HTC knows you unlocked your bootloader.
I have unlocked the bootloader and flashed the stock recovery. where can I go from here? can anyone provide an update.zip? all the links seem to be down for the froyo one
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Maybe, but I think when you submit for an unlock token is when HTC knows you unlocked your bootloader.
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That is probably true, I never thought of that. I guess they probably think that I have an unlocked bootloader now too since I made an account and downloaded the tool to help a friend with his phone.
deathangel1496 said:
I have unlocked the bootloader and flashed the stock recovery. where can I go from here? can anyone provide an update.zip? all the links seem to be down for the froyo one
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I may be mistaken, but isn't this what you are looking for?
http://pvillecomp.com/?page_id=22
additionally, why did you flash stock recovery vs. CWM? I don't have any experience with stock but CWM seems to be perfect for anything I've ever needed a recovery for. ie - flashing new ROMs or backing up/ restoring ROMs
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I have unlocked the bootloader and flashed the stock recovery. where can I go from here? can anyone provide an update.zip? all the links seem to be down for the froyo one
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Do steps 6 - 27 of this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1506258 to install cwm recovery and get root. If you want true s-off continue to follow steps 28 - 43.
Title says it all. I know that with S-OFF, things should be easier than with S-ON. Nut this is my first Android device and even if I read different threads regarding rooting/flashing, etc., things are still complicated specially because the guides are specifically made for S-ON devices - which is understandable, I know. Considering that the existence of S-OFF HTC One Xs are almost a myth.
It sounds like you do know that S-OFF is not generally available for the HOX. So, do you have S-OFF and what specific things are you trying to figure out?
Here are a couple of simple things:
if you have S-OFF, then when you flash a ROM from recovery it will also update the boot.img so you don't need to flash the boot.img separately in bootloader mode.
If you are flashing an hboot, you don't have to the fastboot oem lock first.
The OP has an S-OFF One X and has NO idea what he's doing...complete waste of an S-OFF device IMO
EddyOS said:
The OP has an S-OFF One X and has NO idea what he's doing...complete waste of an S-OFF device IMO
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Uhh, yeah, I know that. That's why I am trying to learn things. Thanks for 'helping' me 'recognized contributor'.
All you have to do is follow every other guide that's on here, the only difference being you can flash any RUU you want if you need to go back to stock. There's not a lot to it
And just cause I'm an RC doesn't mean I have to be nice
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It sounds like you do know that S-OFF is not generally available for the HOX. So, do you have S-OFF and what specific things are you trying to figure out?
Here are a couple of simple things:
if you have S-OFF, then when you flash a ROM from recovery it will also update the boot.img so you don't need to flash the boot.img separately in bootloader mode.
If you are flashing an hboot, you don't have to the fastboot oem lock first.
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I am reading this thread - [Guide] - The Ultimate Stock to Custom ROM Awesomeness thread - Noob friendly and I don't know which steps apply to my phone since the thread is not specifically for S-off devices:
Unlock bootloader - do i need to do this? do i have a reason to go to htcdev.com if I want to install custom ROM on my phone? do i need an identifier token?
Custom Recovery/Clockwork MOD/SuperSU - is this essential so I can flash a custom ROM?
Titanium Backup - is this a must?
EddyOS said:
The OP has an S-OFF One X and has NO idea what he's doing...complete waste of an S-OFF device IMO
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completely agree :laugh:
Chezbel said:
It sounds like you do know that S-OFF is not generally available for the HOX. So, do you have S-OFF and what specific things are you trying to figure out?
Here are a couple of simple things:
if you have S-OFF, then when you flash a ROM from recovery it will also update the boot.img so you don't need to flash the boot.img separately in bootloader mode.
If you are flashing an hboot, you don't have to the fastboot oem lock first.
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I am reading this thread - [Guide] - The Ultimate Stock to Custom ROM Awesomeness thread - Noob friendly and I don't know which steps apply to my phone since the thread is not specifically for S-off devices:
Unlock bootloader - do i need to do this? do i have a reason to go to htcdev.com if I want to install custom ROM on my phone? do i need an identifier token?
Custom Recovery/Clockwork MOD/SuperSU - is this essential so I can flash a custom ROM?
Titanium Backup - is this a must?
EddyOS said:
All you have to do is follow every other guide that's on here, the only difference being you can flash any RUU you want if you need to go back to stock. There's not a lot to it
And just cause I'm an RC doesn't mean I have to be nice
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Oh, i know that one! Had to flash a RUU after I got stuck on boot trying to install a custom ROM. Anyway, S-off or not, do I need CWM? Because that's where I think I got wrong. I never heard of clockwork mod before I installed this custom rom. Now I am reading this guide but it doesn't mention where I should put the recovery.img before I flash it.
Yes you do. Having s-off means you can fall back on any RUU to go back to stock. Other than that you follow the same guides as everyone else
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Wow.... Seems like the one v forum isn't the only one full of jerks.
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cammykool said:
Wow.... Seems like the one v forum isn't the only one full of jerks.
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Who is the idiot you're referring to?
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jed27.galvez said:
I am reading this thread - [Guide] - The Ultimate Stock to Custom ROM Awesomeness thread - Noob friendly and I don't know which steps apply to my phone since the thread is not specifically for S-off devices:
Unlock bootloader - do i need to do this? do i have a reason to go to htcdev.com if I want to install custom ROM on my phone? do i need an identifier token?
Custom Recovery/Clockwork MOD/SuperSU - is this essential so I can flash a custom ROM?
Titanium Backup - is this a must?
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You shouldn't have to do the htcdev unlock
If you want to flash any ROMs or make system backups you must install a recovery such as CWM or TWRP
Perhaps Titanium backup is a not must, but I would highly recommend it. That has nothing to do with S-ON vs S-OFF. It's a very useful tool for backing up your applications and other information. The paid version is well worth the money.
In general, as was mentioned before, you can still follow all the guides step by step. It's possible that some steps don't apply to you, but it won't hurt to do them. If you aren't sure what you are doing then it's better not to guess about which steps to skip.
I have got to the part on installing a custom recovery, but it says NOT ALLOWED. I asked some recognized members and some said that it is not enough that I am s-off to flash custom recovery, that I should also unlock bootloader.
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OK, that makes sense because you have to flash recovery from the bootloader. I think it would save you some time and confusion if you just pretend that you have S-ON like everyone else and follow all steps of the guides you are using.
If you do that, including unlocking your bootloader, then the main difference for you will be when flashing a new ROM from CWM or TWRP since the boot.img will get updated. With S-ON that can't happen from recovery, the boot.img can only be flashed from the bootloader screen.
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I have got to the part on installing a custom recovery, but it says NOT ALLOWED. I asked some recognized members and some said that it is not enough that I am s-off to flash custom recovery, that I should also unlock bootloader.
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When having S-OFF you have to give the command on whicht partition you want. As I heard you can't say recovery or something.
I managed this with the application "Rom Manager". Also S-OFF device. But for flashing a CWM through "Rom Manager" you have rooted your phone first.
Chezbel said:
OK, that makes sense because you have to flash recovery from the bootloader. I think it would save you some time and confusion if you just pretend that you have S-ON like everyone else and follow all steps of the guides you are using.
If you do that, including unlocking your bootloader, then the main difference for you will be when flashing a new ROM from CWM or TWRP since the boot.img will get updated. With S-ON that can't happen from recovery, the boot.img can only be flashed from the bootloader screen.
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Some devs don't include the boot.img in their rom zip so you'd still have to flash it separately with fast boot.
To unlock your bootloader simply type fastboot oem unlock, unlike s-on phones, you don't require the unlock file from htcdev.com
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stuart0001 said:
To unlock your bootloader simply type fastboot oem unlock, unlike s-on phones, you don't require the unlock file from htcdev.com
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Are you sure? I don't think that is true (at least not in all cases)
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Are you sure? I don't think that is true (at least not in all cases)
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tried fastboot oem unlock, doesn't seem to work for me, I get an error message. Ugh, I can't continue with htcdev.com, their site is always down or very very slow.
Hi Stuart,
Even if the boot.img is included in the zip you need to flash the boot.img separate isn't?
What I'm trying to say is, it doesn't make a difference if they include it in the zip or not, if it's not included you only need to download twice.
stuart0001 said:
Some devs don't include the boot.img in their rom zip so you'd still have to flash it separately with fast boot.
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Laurentius26 said:
Hi Stuart,
Even if the boot.img is included in the zip you need to flash the boot.img separate isn't?
What I'm trying to say is, it doesn't make a difference if they include it in the zip or not, if it's not included you only need to download twice.
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With S-OFF, if the boot.img is in the ROM then you don't need to flash it separately.
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I can confirm that using the below attached stock signed recovery will allow S-off stock rooted users to take the update and still be able to flash custom recovery/root with no problems. Thank Zarboz for the recovery
flash this recovery in fastboot... accept the OTA... reboot to bootloader and flash your custom recovery of choice and re-flash SU.zip
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxPOyPCGUoH1TGFSNVE2U25uQkk/edit?usp=sharing
Will this also work for those of us who are HTCdev unlocked from day one? Or do we have to have S-off, if so why?
simo24 said:
Will this also work for those of us who are HTCdev unlocked from day one? Or do we have to have S-off, if so why?
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It did not relock me. I would say you can probably do the same thing. S-off wasn't a factor in this one.
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Can I flash and install if im on bone stock, a custom sense rom?
dottat said:
I can confirm that using the below attached stock signed recovery will allow S-off stock rooted users to take the update and still be able to flash custom recovery/root with no problems. Thank Zarboz for the recovery
flash this recovery in fastboot... accept the OTA... reboot to bootloader and flash your custom recovery of choice and re-flash SU.zip
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxPOyPCGUoH1TGFSNVE2U25uQkk/edit?usp=sharing
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so you are java card s-off'ed?
if so this is good info,as the modified mid was a concern.
are you stock cid,or still vzw cid?
scotty1223 said:
so you are java card s-off'ed?
if so this is good info,as the modified mid was a concern.
are you stock cid,or still vzw cid?
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Yes. Stock (vzw) cid and that modified mid remember I discovered that
In a nutshell, this ota only cared about stock recovery. Update installed exactly like it should, firmware and all.
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Can we read this to mean that the OTA does not affect the currently used root exploit? If so, I'll let it update before shipping out to Sonic on Monday.
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Yes. Stock (vzw) cid and that modified mid remember I discovered that
In a nutshell, this ota only cared about stock recovery. Update installed exactly like it should, firmware and all.
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godhamba said:
Can we read this to mean that the OTA does not affect the currently used root exploit? If so, I'll let it update before shipping out to Sonic on Monday.
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If you're talking about Sonic's method, it's not a root exploit. It's an actual HTC support tool. Nothing released is going to break HTC's support tools.
Yup, got that. I wasn't being clear. I meant that if this doesn't break the existing root exploit, I wanted to simply go ahead and let it update (and thereby get rid of the intermittent pop-ups) before sending it off to Sonic for his S-OFF. I don't want to be in the situation where the phone is S-OFF'ed, but I am unable to stay rooted because this OTA has patched the known root exploit.
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If you're talking about Sonic's method, it's not a root exploit. It's an actual HTC support tool. Nothing released is going to break HTC's support tools.
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Yup, got that. I wasn't being clear. I meant that if this doesn't break the existing root exploit, I wanted to simply go ahead and let it update (and thereby get rid of the intermittent pop-ups) before sending it off to Sonic for his S-OFF. I don't want to be in the situation where the phone is S-OFF'ed, but I am unable to stay rooted because this OTA has patched the known root exploit.
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My apologies. With S-OFF you are able to flash a custom recovery, which will then allow you to flash a custom ROM that will have root baked in. If you like the Sense UI, Andybones has a fantastic ROM option in BoneStock which will give you the best of both worlds. Rooted and Stock Sense experience. So you shouldn't worry about the OTA if you plan on getting S-OFF.. because you can run a ROM that will offer you root access.
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Yup, got that. I wasn't being clear. I meant that if this doesn't break the existing root exploit, I wanted to simply go ahead and let it update (and thereby get rid of the intermittent pop-ups) before sending it off to Sonic for his S-OFF. I don't want to be in the situation where the phone is S-OFF'ed, but I am unable to stay rooted because this OTA has patched the known root exploit.
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Unless I'm mistaken, if you are S-OFF there is no "exploit" needed for root access. S-OFF means you can simply flash SU and you have root - it doesn't require any exploits as S-OFF gives you complete read/write privileges to the entire system.
I flashed it and tried the update but it still failed ... I am thinking it is probably because I de-bloated the stock image and it doesnt like that.
No apologies needed at all. I appreciate the informed reply! And you cleared up a misconception I still retained. I've heard Andy's ROM is a perfect debloat and tweak up of the stock experience. I *cannot* wait to have the ability to kill and app by long-holding the back button. That is something I've grown so used to that, I feel majorly inconvenienced without it.
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My apologies. With S-OFF you are able to flash a custom recovery, which will then allow you to flash a custom ROM that will have root baked in. If you like the Sense UI, Andybones has a fantastic ROM option in BoneStock which will give you the best of both worlds. Rooted and Stock Sense experience. So you shouldn't worry about the OTA if you plan on getting S-OFF.. because you can run a ROM that will offer you root access.
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mrjinglesusa said:
Unless I'm mistaken, if you are S-OFF there is no "exploit" needed for root access. S-OFF means you can simply flash SU and you have root - it doesn't require any exploits as S-OFF gives you complete read/write privileges to the entire system.
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you are not mistaken. correct all around, once S-OFF, your "Security" is now Off.. "S-Off"
anyway, this means you can just fastboot a custom recovery and flash a custom ROM that already has root built into it.
dottat said:
flash this recovery in fastboot... accept the OTA... reboot to bootloader and flash your custom recovery of choice and re-flash SU.zip
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To verify... the process is this:
Prerequisite: Have all HTC drivers installed with abd, etc. All that android stuff... same stuff to flash custom recovery in the first place, etc.
1. Boot into bootloader. Choose Fastboot.
2. Plug your phone into your computer with the microUSB cable.
3. In your android directory command line.. you're going to type: fastboot flash recovery htconerecovery_signed.img
4. Then you're going to type fastboot erase cache
Now you're going to choose to reboot your device... you're going to take the OTA...
Then you're going to go through a similar process to flash the custom recovery back to the device?
Does that sound about right?
Yep...that's it!
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one4thewings said:
To verify... the process is this:
Prerequisite: Have all HTC drivers installed with abd, etc. All that android stuff... same stuff to flash custom recovery in the first place, etc.
1. Boot into bootloader. Choose Fastboot.
2. Plug your phone into your computer with the microUSB cable.
3. In your android directory command line.. you're going to type: fastboot flash recovery htconerecovery_signed.img
4. Then you're going to type fastboot erase cache
Now you're going to choose to reboot your device... you're going to take the OTA...
Then you're going to go through a similar process to flash the custom recovery back to the device?
Does that sound about right?
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is this to get the ROM?
we can just make a ROM out of the update files, have someone make a stock nandroid or something.
or for the firmware, radio, if they were updated
just curious.
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Yes. Stock (vzw) cid and that modified mid remember I discovered that
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right... lol im lucky to remember who I am most days,let alone anyone else
the important thing is your not bricked
one4thewings said:
If you're talking about Sonic's method, it's not a root exploit. It's an actual HTC support tool. Nothing released is going to break HTC's support tools.
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ive done alot of phones with the xtc clip,and the diag files definately can be hboot specific. in this case,the ota is minor so hboot prolly doesnt change. while the java card is not broken,it may require new diag files to do newer hboots as OTAs happen.
its prolly not that big a deal,as sonics supplier should be able to get him the new diag files. but as was said,there isnt much any advantage to waiting.
fader01 said:
I flashed it and tried the update but it still failed ... I am thinking it is probably because I de-bloated the stock image and it doesnt like that.
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yup. this is correct. please folks... the OTA is not magic. the updates can be cooked into a recovery flashable rom,and the firmware is easily pulled.
scotty1223 said:
right... lol im lucky to remember who I am most days,let alone anyone else
the important thing is your not bricked
ive done alot of phones with the xtc clip,and the diag files definately can be hboot specific. in this case,the ota is minor so hboot prolly doesnt change. while the java card is not broken,it may require new diag files to do newer hboots as OTAs happen.
its prolly not that big a deal,as sonics supplier should be able to get him the new diag files. but as was said,there isnt much any advantage to waiting.
yup. this is correct. please folks... the OTA is not magic. the updates can be cooked into a recovery flashable rom,and the firmware is easily pulled.
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This should have to be read in order to S-OFF!
scotty1223 said:
right... lol im lucky to remember who I am most days,let alone anyone else
the important thing is your not bricked
ive done alot of phones with the xtc clip,and the diag files definately can be hboot specific. in this case,the ota is minor so hboot prolly doesnt change. while the java card is not broken,it may require new diag files to do newer hboots as OTAs happen.
its prolly not that big a deal,as sonics supplier should be able to get him the new diag files. but as was said,there isnt much any advantage to waiting.
yup. this is correct. please folks... the OTA is not magic. the updates can be cooked into a recovery flashable rom,and the firmware is easily pulled.
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just curious if there is anything good in the update. Don't care about Isis, phone hasn't froze up. But I do get drops of wifi and BT. Didn't see anything in there about that.
I'm running a self debloated version of the stock, rooted, deodexed ROM. Think I'll run this way until the 4.3 drops and then repeat... Any "fixes" from this minor update should be in it.
Hey everyone. Just got a new HTC one yay. I am coming from a moterola droid bionic where all i had to do was root, install recovery and flash whatever ROMs I wanted. All this s-off and unlocked boot loader stuff is confusing. Can someone explain to me what are the benefits of these options and which I should use. Sorry for the noob question. Thanks!
kalestar said:
Hey everyone. Just got a new HTC one yay. I am coming from a moterola droid bionic where all i had to do was root, install recovery and flash whatever ROMs I wanted. All this s-off and unlocked boot loader stuff is confusing. Can someone explain to me what are the benefits of these options and which I should use. Sorry for the noob question. Thanks!
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S-OFF enables you to do whatever you want to your phone. If you run rumrunner it will give you s-off, root, and an unlocked bootloader.
Once run rumrunner, then you will want to flash a custom recovery to make a back up and install a new rom.
You should be familiar with adb commands before trying rumrunner.
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kalestar said:
Hey everyone. Just got a new HTC one yay. I am coming from a moterola droid bionic where all i had to do was root, install recovery and flash whatever ROMs I wanted. All this s-off and unlocked boot loader stuff is confusing. Can someone explain to me what are the benefits of these options and which I should use. Sorry for the noob question. Thanks!
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Yeah, things were a bit simpler in Motorola land. Having come from the Droid 3, here is what I know so far.
You cannot permanently root the Stock build by default. This is due to some special write protection on the /system mount. I don't know the details but it is more than a remount command can take care of.
Unlocking the bootloader, most often associated with the htcdev.com site, allows you to flash a custom bootloader, and in turn flash custom roms that have root built-in and bypass the previously mentioned write protection. From what I can tell you still cannot flash the radio at this level.
S-Off is the big one. With S-Off you can do anything, including changing partition sizes, flashing radios, and all that fun stuff.
rumrunner is the program that unlocks the phone. It performs a S-Off, Bootloader Unlock, and roots the device in one package. Once you run it on your phone you will be able to load a custom bootloader and flash just as you would any other phone.
If anybody with more experience wants to correct me please do so. Like I said I am still learning the terms and technology.
Okay. Why would I do s-off instead of htcdev method? Is it so I could eventually flash new radio firmware? If so, what is the benefit of flashing new radio firmware? Thanks!
kalestar said:
Okay. Why would I do s-off instead of htcdev method? Is it so I could eventually flash new radio firmware? If so, what is the benefit of flashing new radio firmware? Thanks!
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For Verizon the htcdev method is not available. They closed it a few days after the phone was released. As of now we have two ways to unlock our phones
rumrunner - Full S-Off, Bootloader unlock, and Root
Java card - Costs money, gets you S-Off
The real short answer is just use rumrunner and you will be all set to flash
I have a question...i was one of the lucky ones to get unlocked/rooted on day one from HTC/dev...I us sally flash a few roms but I'm not a crack flasher..am i good with what i have OR should i as-Off using rumrunner?
bsbuggs said:
I have a question...i was one of the lucky ones to get unlocked/rooted on day one from HTC/dev...I us sally flash a few roms but I'm not a crack flasher..am i good with what i have OR should i as-Off using rumrunner?
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Fine with what you have, unless you want *FULL* control.
tech_head said:
Fine with what you have, unless you want *FULL* control.
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thanks thats what I though THANKS..
I have read quite a few posts as everyone is quite happy with s off finally here... I was concerned when I read a post that said you cannot flash a radio without s-off.
I ran rumrunner and have s-off and unlocked with ClockworkMod Touch Recovery 6.0.4.4. But when I ran root checker it says I do not have root. What do I need to do to get root?
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jbh00jh said:
I ran rumrunner and have s-off and unlocked with ClockworkMod Touch Recovery 6.0.4.4. But when I ran root checker it says I do not have root. What do I need to do to get root?
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Have you flashed the supersu in recovery yet? That could be the reason.
jbh00jh said:
I ran rumrunner and have s-off and unlocked with ClockworkMod Touch Recovery 6.0.4.4. But when I ran root checker it says I do not have root. What do I need to do to get root?
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Will try that now.
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Zynesterysdan said:
Have you flashed the supersu in recovery yet? That could be the reason.
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That worked. I thought that was part of the rumrunner flash, but I guess I was wrong. Thanks man.
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I'm on the edge program. The only thing I seem to the missing is how to unroot, s-on, and relock the boot loader when I give this back to vz. Would that be flashing the ruu?
Sorry if this has been covered somewhere else.
emichroc said:
I'm on the edge program. The only thing I seem to the missing is how to unroot, s-on, and relock the boot loader when I give this back to vz. Would that be flashing the ruu?
Sorry if this has been covered somewhere else.
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Check out this thread - Return To Stock LOCKED and S-ON - I have not tried the method in there so I do not know if it works.
jbh00jh said:
Will try that now.
That worked. I thought that was part of the rumrunner flash, but I guess I was wrong. Thanks man.
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Rumrunners does do that. Something just went wrong during your process.
bsbuggs said:
I have a question...i was one of the lucky ones to get unlocked/rooted on day one from HTC/dev...I us sally flash a few roms but I'm not a crack flasher..am i good with what i have OR should i as-Off using rumrunner?
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I would s off. If you scree up something or flashing cm10 kills your baseband you won't be able to flash the decrypted ruu. As far as I know we don't have an official ruu to flash yet.
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I had htcdev unlock from the first day and have flashed some roms so I'm no longer stock. Is there any stock rom that I can flash and use rumrunner to get s-off?