I can confirm that using the below attached stock signed recovery will allow S-off stock rooted users to take the update and still be able to flash custom recovery/root with no problems. Thank Zarboz for the recovery
flash this recovery in fastboot... accept the OTA... reboot to bootloader and flash your custom recovery of choice and re-flash SU.zip
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxPOyPCGUoH1TGFSNVE2U25uQkk/edit?usp=sharing
Will this also work for those of us who are HTCdev unlocked from day one? Or do we have to have S-off, if so why?
simo24 said:
Will this also work for those of us who are HTCdev unlocked from day one? Or do we have to have S-off, if so why?
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It did not relock me. I would say you can probably do the same thing. S-off wasn't a factor in this one.
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Can I flash and install if im on bone stock, a custom sense rom?
dottat said:
I can confirm that using the below attached stock signed recovery will allow S-off stock rooted users to take the update and still be able to flash custom recovery/root with no problems. Thank Zarboz for the recovery
flash this recovery in fastboot... accept the OTA... reboot to bootloader and flash your custom recovery of choice and re-flash SU.zip
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxPOyPCGUoH1TGFSNVE2U25uQkk/edit?usp=sharing
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so you are java card s-off'ed?
if so this is good info,as the modified mid was a concern.
are you stock cid,or still vzw cid?
scotty1223 said:
so you are java card s-off'ed?
if so this is good info,as the modified mid was a concern.
are you stock cid,or still vzw cid?
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Yes. Stock (vzw) cid and that modified mid remember I discovered that
In a nutshell, this ota only cared about stock recovery. Update installed exactly like it should, firmware and all.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4
Can we read this to mean that the OTA does not affect the currently used root exploit? If so, I'll let it update before shipping out to Sonic on Monday.
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Yes. Stock (vzw) cid and that modified mid remember I discovered that
In a nutshell, this ota only cared about stock recovery. Update installed exactly like it should, firmware and all.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4
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godhamba said:
Can we read this to mean that the OTA does not affect the currently used root exploit? If so, I'll let it update before shipping out to Sonic on Monday.
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If you're talking about Sonic's method, it's not a root exploit. It's an actual HTC support tool. Nothing released is going to break HTC's support tools.
Yup, got that. I wasn't being clear. I meant that if this doesn't break the existing root exploit, I wanted to simply go ahead and let it update (and thereby get rid of the intermittent pop-ups) before sending it off to Sonic for his S-OFF. I don't want to be in the situation where the phone is S-OFF'ed, but I am unable to stay rooted because this OTA has patched the known root exploit.
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If you're talking about Sonic's method, it's not a root exploit. It's an actual HTC support tool. Nothing released is going to break HTC's support tools.
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Yup, got that. I wasn't being clear. I meant that if this doesn't break the existing root exploit, I wanted to simply go ahead and let it update (and thereby get rid of the intermittent pop-ups) before sending it off to Sonic for his S-OFF. I don't want to be in the situation where the phone is S-OFF'ed, but I am unable to stay rooted because this OTA has patched the known root exploit.
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My apologies. With S-OFF you are able to flash a custom recovery, which will then allow you to flash a custom ROM that will have root baked in. If you like the Sense UI, Andybones has a fantastic ROM option in BoneStock which will give you the best of both worlds. Rooted and Stock Sense experience. So you shouldn't worry about the OTA if you plan on getting S-OFF.. because you can run a ROM that will offer you root access.
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Yup, got that. I wasn't being clear. I meant that if this doesn't break the existing root exploit, I wanted to simply go ahead and let it update (and thereby get rid of the intermittent pop-ups) before sending it off to Sonic for his S-OFF. I don't want to be in the situation where the phone is S-OFF'ed, but I am unable to stay rooted because this OTA has patched the known root exploit.
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Unless I'm mistaken, if you are S-OFF there is no "exploit" needed for root access. S-OFF means you can simply flash SU and you have root - it doesn't require any exploits as S-OFF gives you complete read/write privileges to the entire system.
I flashed it and tried the update but it still failed ... I am thinking it is probably because I de-bloated the stock image and it doesnt like that.
No apologies needed at all. I appreciate the informed reply! And you cleared up a misconception I still retained. I've heard Andy's ROM is a perfect debloat and tweak up of the stock experience. I *cannot* wait to have the ability to kill and app by long-holding the back button. That is something I've grown so used to that, I feel majorly inconvenienced without it.
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My apologies. With S-OFF you are able to flash a custom recovery, which will then allow you to flash a custom ROM that will have root baked in. If you like the Sense UI, Andybones has a fantastic ROM option in BoneStock which will give you the best of both worlds. Rooted and Stock Sense experience. So you shouldn't worry about the OTA if you plan on getting S-OFF.. because you can run a ROM that will offer you root access.
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mrjinglesusa said:
Unless I'm mistaken, if you are S-OFF there is no "exploit" needed for root access. S-OFF means you can simply flash SU and you have root - it doesn't require any exploits as S-OFF gives you complete read/write privileges to the entire system.
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you are not mistaken. correct all around, once S-OFF, your "Security" is now Off.. "S-Off"
anyway, this means you can just fastboot a custom recovery and flash a custom ROM that already has root built into it.
dottat said:
flash this recovery in fastboot... accept the OTA... reboot to bootloader and flash your custom recovery of choice and re-flash SU.zip
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To verify... the process is this:
Prerequisite: Have all HTC drivers installed with abd, etc. All that android stuff... same stuff to flash custom recovery in the first place, etc.
1. Boot into bootloader. Choose Fastboot.
2. Plug your phone into your computer with the microUSB cable.
3. In your android directory command line.. you're going to type: fastboot flash recovery htconerecovery_signed.img
4. Then you're going to type fastboot erase cache
Now you're going to choose to reboot your device... you're going to take the OTA...
Then you're going to go through a similar process to flash the custom recovery back to the device?
Does that sound about right?
Yep...that's it!
Sent from my HTC6500LVW using Tapatalk 2
one4thewings said:
To verify... the process is this:
Prerequisite: Have all HTC drivers installed with abd, etc. All that android stuff... same stuff to flash custom recovery in the first place, etc.
1. Boot into bootloader. Choose Fastboot.
2. Plug your phone into your computer with the microUSB cable.
3. In your android directory command line.. you're going to type: fastboot flash recovery htconerecovery_signed.img
4. Then you're going to type fastboot erase cache
Now you're going to choose to reboot your device... you're going to take the OTA...
Then you're going to go through a similar process to flash the custom recovery back to the device?
Does that sound about right?
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is this to get the ROM?
we can just make a ROM out of the update files, have someone make a stock nandroid or something.
or for the firmware, radio, if they were updated
just curious.
dottat said:
Yes. Stock (vzw) cid and that modified mid remember I discovered that
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right... lol im lucky to remember who I am most days,let alone anyone else
the important thing is your not bricked
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If you're talking about Sonic's method, it's not a root exploit. It's an actual HTC support tool. Nothing released is going to break HTC's support tools.
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ive done alot of phones with the xtc clip,and the diag files definately can be hboot specific. in this case,the ota is minor so hboot prolly doesnt change. while the java card is not broken,it may require new diag files to do newer hboots as OTAs happen.
its prolly not that big a deal,as sonics supplier should be able to get him the new diag files. but as was said,there isnt much any advantage to waiting.
fader01 said:
I flashed it and tried the update but it still failed ... I am thinking it is probably because I de-bloated the stock image and it doesnt like that.
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yup. this is correct. please folks... the OTA is not magic. the updates can be cooked into a recovery flashable rom,and the firmware is easily pulled.
scotty1223 said:
right... lol im lucky to remember who I am most days,let alone anyone else
the important thing is your not bricked
ive done alot of phones with the xtc clip,and the diag files definately can be hboot specific. in this case,the ota is minor so hboot prolly doesnt change. while the java card is not broken,it may require new diag files to do newer hboots as OTAs happen.
its prolly not that big a deal,as sonics supplier should be able to get him the new diag files. but as was said,there isnt much any advantage to waiting.
yup. this is correct. please folks... the OTA is not magic. the updates can be cooked into a recovery flashable rom,and the firmware is easily pulled.
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This should have to be read in order to S-OFF!
scotty1223 said:
right... lol im lucky to remember who I am most days,let alone anyone else
the important thing is your not bricked
ive done alot of phones with the xtc clip,and the diag files definately can be hboot specific. in this case,the ota is minor so hboot prolly doesnt change. while the java card is not broken,it may require new diag files to do newer hboots as OTAs happen.
its prolly not that big a deal,as sonics supplier should be able to get him the new diag files. but as was said,there isnt much any advantage to waiting.
yup. this is correct. please folks... the OTA is not magic. the updates can be cooked into a recovery flashable rom,and the firmware is easily pulled.
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just curious if there is anything good in the update. Don't care about Isis, phone hasn't froze up. But I do get drops of wifi and BT. Didn't see anything in there about that.
I'm running a self debloated version of the stock, rooted, deodexed ROM. Think I'll run this way until the 4.3 drops and then repeat... Any "fixes" from this minor update should be in it.
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Can i get s-off with Ubuntu 10.04? I already have root now i need s-off.
Albinoman said:
Can i get s-off with Ubuntu 10.04? I already have root now i need s-off.
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You mean can you use a computer running ubuntu to s-off your phone? Not that im aware of, but it might be possible. What android version and hboot are you on?
Albinoman said:
Can i get s-off with Ubuntu 10.04? I already have root now i need s-off.
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Go to unrevoked.com and click unrevoked forever and follow the links to transfer the HBOOT flashable zip that will enable S-OFF. You also may have to downgrade your radio to do it. It can work in ubuntu. Wait what am I saying? The OS you're running doesn't matter as all you need to do is read the instructions on unrevoked.com and transfer the zip file as directed there.
tiny4579 said:
Go to unrevoked.com and click unrevoked forever and follow the links to transfer the HBOOT flashable zip that will enable S-OFF. You also may have to downgrade your radio to do it. It can work in ubuntu. Wait what am I saying? The OS you're running doesn't matter as all you need to do is read the instructions on unrevoked.com and transfer the zip file as directed there.
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Will that work with the new hboot though?
Guys im on aokp 4.0.4 and have hboot-1.02
P.S. Im a dev for the droid 2 so im not a scared little newb lol
Albinoman said:
Guys im on aokp 4.0.4 and have hboot-1.02
P.S. Im a dev for the droid 2 so im not a scared little newb lol
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Cant hurt to try unrevoked forever patch http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever, but you will need to downgrade the radio to a supported version. Not sure if an unlocked bootloader will let you flash a radio or not.
cmlusco said:
Cant hurt to try unrevoked forever patch http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever, but you will need to downgrade the radio to a supported version. Not sure if an unlocked bootloader will let you flash a radio or not.
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It should allow it. It allows fastboot when my .92 bootloader didn't. Not sure about if S-OFF will even work on 1.02. I always thought it was more open than S-OFF since it was released on the Inc.
You can easily unlock the bootloader the HTC dev way using Ubuntu. This will allow you to flash a custom recovery, and from there, custom ROM's, stuff like that. To get true s-off, though, the easy way is to use Unrevoked Forever, and that requires a Windows machine (and it won't work in Virtualbox either, at least it didn't for me). I think there are other (older) guides for getting s-off that use adb, and those methods would work just fine in Ubuntu. I found it easier to boot into Windows.
Edit: I'm not sure if you can get s-off after you're on the 1.02 bootloader.
Ok now im confused.
musical_chairs said:
You can easily unlock the bootloader the HTC dev way using Ubuntu. This will allow you to flash a custom recovery, and from there, custom ROM's, stuff like that. To get true s-off, though, the easy way is to use Unrevoked Forever, and that requires a Windows machine (and it won't work in Virtualbox either, at least it didn't for me). I think there are other (older) guides for getting s-off that use adb, and those methods would work just fine in Ubuntu. I found it easier to boot into Windows.
Edit: I'm not sure if you can get s-off after you're on the 1.02 bootloader.
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His bootloader already is unlocked.
Unrevoked requires a pc, unrevoked forever does not.
I have never heard of using adb to get s-off, other than using it to downgrade to froyo to use unrevoked to get root and s-off. Speaking of, you could downgrade to froyo and then use unrevoked to get root and s-off. Check out this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1506258, you would want to start at step 28, as i assume you have already done 1 - 27, htcdev unlock bootloader, fastboot flash cwm, flash su thru recovery, and install busybox. You will need adb and fastboot setup on your pc to downgrade.
At the top of the bootloader screen it says Locked (oow). Even though i already unlocked my bootloader.
Albinoman said:
At the top of the bootloader screen it says Locked (oow). Even though i already unlocked my bootloader.
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Do you still have the unlock_code.bin file htc gave you when you unlocked it? May still be on your computet in the same folder where fastboot.exe is. If so fastboot flash it back to the phone ( fastboot flash unlocktoken unlock_code.bin )
Actually i do! I found the email they sent it in. But my computer wont even notice my phone while in fastboot
Albinoman said:
Actually i do! I found the email they sent it in. But my computer wont even notice my phone while in fastboot
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Try calling the fastboot binary with sudo. I had that problem on Mint but only for the Inc not the Nexus and using sudo for fastboot solved it.
Ok guys my bootloader is now unlocked. Can i flash anything i want now or do i still need s-off to flash kernels and radios?
Albinoman said:
Ok guys my bootloader is now unlocked. Can i flash anything i want now or do i still need s-off to flash kernels and radios?
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Pretty sure you're going to need s-off for the kernels and radios. Everything else should be fine.
If you've got a custom recovery installed, though, you should be able to s-off with Unrevoked forever by just flashing an update.zip. Unless there's an issue with the newer firmware that I'm unaware of.
godsmacked4653 said:
Pretty sure you're going to need s-off for the kernels and radios. Everything else should be fine.
If you've got a custom recovery installed, though, you should be able to s-off with Unrevoked forever by just flashing an update.zip. Unless there's an issue with the newer firmware that I'm unaware of.
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Don't i need to change my radio to flash the unrevoked?
Albinoman said:
Ok guys my bootloader is now unlocked. Can i flash anything i want now or do i still need s-off to flash kernels and radios?
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Do you have cwm recovery, superuser, and busybox installed?
Im not sure what all you can flash thru hboot with an unlocked bootloader. But you can flash roms mods and kernels thru cwm recovery.
If you can flash radios thru hboot, downgrade to a unrevoked supported radio, and then try flashing the unrevoked forever zip thru cwm recovery and see if it gives you s-off.
I have everything installed. So at this moment i could flash a kernel?
Albinoman said:
I have everything installed. So at this moment i could flash a kernel?
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Yes you should be able to flash kernels thru cwm recovery just like you would a rom or a mod.
I made a mistake rooting a friends droid incredible and left s-on, I have clockwork but it cant flash anything, I presume its because of the s-on. I wiped the phone without a backup to install miui, so I now have a droid incredible that can only get into hboot, clockwork, and fastboot. It also will not install 31img.zips, Yes ive renamed them correctly I just call them 31's. Help please?
You need to flash an RUU in the form of PB31IMG.zip. It needs to be named PB31IMG.zip and on the root of a FAT32 formatted sdcard. If you use the froyo RUU on pvillecomp.com you can use unrevoked to root again though your friend will just want it working.
My HBOOT wont give me the option to flash, it finds it and checks it, but wont let me install. im downloading the froyo ruu right now in hopes that it will connect through fastboot and do it.
What is your hboot version?
Tiny you are more knowledgeable at this than I, but I was wondering
1) would using PB31IMG's fail if used on the 1.02 hboot?
2) If they were to use the unrevoked tool to flash s-off, could they install a rom without having to boot into the already wiped phone?
I am on hboot version 1.02. My nexus and optimus s were so simple.
(sorry for double post) RUU's will not work
deathangel1496 said:
I am on hboot version 1.02. My nexus and optimus s were so simple.
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Have you used the htc dev site to unkock the bootloader? If not you need to do that, then fastboot flash cwm recovery, then flash superuser thru cwm recovery.
SlimSnoopOS said:
What is your hboot version?
Tiny you are more knowledgeable at this than I, but I was wondering
1) would using PB31IMG's fail if used on the 1.02 hboot?
2) If they were to use the unrevoked tool to flash s-off, could they install a rom without having to boot into the already wiped phone?
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I would try flashing unrevoked forever before doing anything else. Logically this would get you s-off and allow you to flash a ROM. I wouldn't run straight to unlocking your bootloader because it is a lot harder to reverse that than it is to reverse the effects of unrevoked forever. (in the long run, that is. right now there would be no reason to reverse either)
nschiwy said:
I would try flashing unrevoked forever before doing anything else. Logically this would get you s-off and allow you to flash a ROM. I wouldn't run straight to unlocking your bootloader because it is a lot harder to reverse that than it is to reverse the effects of unrevoked forever. (in the long run, that is. right now there would be no reason to reverse either)
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actually bootloader is easy to lock. I think it's fastboot oem lock. You can unlock it again using the same token you used to unlock before that you should save if you decide to do that. Unrevoked forever only works on certain radio versions. With an unlocked bootloader you should be able to flash any PB31IMG.zip as well as flash with fastboot. With S-OFF I know you can flash custom PB31IMG.zip and also older RUUs.
tiny4579 said:
actually bootloader is easy to lock. I think it's fastboot oem lock. You can unlock it again using the same token you used to unlock before that you should save if you decide to do that. Unrevoked forever only works on certain radio versions. With an unlocked bootloader you should be able to flash any PB31IMG.zip as well as flash with fastboot. With S-OFF I know you can flash custom PB31IMG.zip and also older RUUs.
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Yes, but doesn't it then say 're-locked bootloader' or something to that effect where verizon or whoever else could tell that it has been unlocked before and therefore void any warranty? Whereas the s-off tool can be reversed using the s-on tool and nobody has to know anything was ever there. I don't have any experience in that department, I'm just speculating based on things that I have read.
nschiwy said:
Yes, but doesn't it then say 're-locked bootloader' or something to that effect where verizon or whoever else could tell that it has been unlocked before and therefore void any warranty? Whereas the s-off tool can be reversed using the s-on tool and nobody has to know anything was ever there. I don't have any experience in that department, I'm just speculating based on things that I have read.
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Maybe, but I think when you submit for an unlock token is when HTC knows you unlocked your bootloader.
I have unlocked the bootloader and flashed the stock recovery. where can I go from here? can anyone provide an update.zip? all the links seem to be down for the froyo one
tiny4579 said:
Maybe, but I think when you submit for an unlock token is when HTC knows you unlocked your bootloader.
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That is probably true, I never thought of that. I guess they probably think that I have an unlocked bootloader now too since I made an account and downloaded the tool to help a friend with his phone.
deathangel1496 said:
I have unlocked the bootloader and flashed the stock recovery. where can I go from here? can anyone provide an update.zip? all the links seem to be down for the froyo one
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I may be mistaken, but isn't this what you are looking for?
http://pvillecomp.com/?page_id=22
additionally, why did you flash stock recovery vs. CWM? I don't have any experience with stock but CWM seems to be perfect for anything I've ever needed a recovery for. ie - flashing new ROMs or backing up/ restoring ROMs
deathangel1496 said:
I have unlocked the bootloader and flashed the stock recovery. where can I go from here? can anyone provide an update.zip? all the links seem to be down for the froyo one
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Do steps 6 - 27 of this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1506258 to install cwm recovery and get root. If you want true s-off continue to follow steps 28 - 43.
Hey everyone. Just got a new HTC one yay. I am coming from a moterola droid bionic where all i had to do was root, install recovery and flash whatever ROMs I wanted. All this s-off and unlocked boot loader stuff is confusing. Can someone explain to me what are the benefits of these options and which I should use. Sorry for the noob question. Thanks!
kalestar said:
Hey everyone. Just got a new HTC one yay. I am coming from a moterola droid bionic where all i had to do was root, install recovery and flash whatever ROMs I wanted. All this s-off and unlocked boot loader stuff is confusing. Can someone explain to me what are the benefits of these options and which I should use. Sorry for the noob question. Thanks!
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S-OFF enables you to do whatever you want to your phone. If you run rumrunner it will give you s-off, root, and an unlocked bootloader.
Once run rumrunner, then you will want to flash a custom recovery to make a back up and install a new rom.
You should be familiar with adb commands before trying rumrunner.
Sent from the One and Only
kalestar said:
Hey everyone. Just got a new HTC one yay. I am coming from a moterola droid bionic where all i had to do was root, install recovery and flash whatever ROMs I wanted. All this s-off and unlocked boot loader stuff is confusing. Can someone explain to me what are the benefits of these options and which I should use. Sorry for the noob question. Thanks!
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Yeah, things were a bit simpler in Motorola land. Having come from the Droid 3, here is what I know so far.
You cannot permanently root the Stock build by default. This is due to some special write protection on the /system mount. I don't know the details but it is more than a remount command can take care of.
Unlocking the bootloader, most often associated with the htcdev.com site, allows you to flash a custom bootloader, and in turn flash custom roms that have root built-in and bypass the previously mentioned write protection. From what I can tell you still cannot flash the radio at this level.
S-Off is the big one. With S-Off you can do anything, including changing partition sizes, flashing radios, and all that fun stuff.
rumrunner is the program that unlocks the phone. It performs a S-Off, Bootloader Unlock, and roots the device in one package. Once you run it on your phone you will be able to load a custom bootloader and flash just as you would any other phone.
If anybody with more experience wants to correct me please do so. Like I said I am still learning the terms and technology.
Okay. Why would I do s-off instead of htcdev method? Is it so I could eventually flash new radio firmware? If so, what is the benefit of flashing new radio firmware? Thanks!
kalestar said:
Okay. Why would I do s-off instead of htcdev method? Is it so I could eventually flash new radio firmware? If so, what is the benefit of flashing new radio firmware? Thanks!
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For Verizon the htcdev method is not available. They closed it a few days after the phone was released. As of now we have two ways to unlock our phones
rumrunner - Full S-Off, Bootloader unlock, and Root
Java card - Costs money, gets you S-Off
The real short answer is just use rumrunner and you will be all set to flash
I have a question...i was one of the lucky ones to get unlocked/rooted on day one from HTC/dev...I us sally flash a few roms but I'm not a crack flasher..am i good with what i have OR should i as-Off using rumrunner?
bsbuggs said:
I have a question...i was one of the lucky ones to get unlocked/rooted on day one from HTC/dev...I us sally flash a few roms but I'm not a crack flasher..am i good with what i have OR should i as-Off using rumrunner?
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Fine with what you have, unless you want *FULL* control.
tech_head said:
Fine with what you have, unless you want *FULL* control.
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thanks thats what I though THANKS..
I have read quite a few posts as everyone is quite happy with s off finally here... I was concerned when I read a post that said you cannot flash a radio without s-off.
I ran rumrunner and have s-off and unlocked with ClockworkMod Touch Recovery 6.0.4.4. But when I ran root checker it says I do not have root. What do I need to do to get root?
Sent from my 4G LTE HTC One
jbh00jh said:
I ran rumrunner and have s-off and unlocked with ClockworkMod Touch Recovery 6.0.4.4. But when I ran root checker it says I do not have root. What do I need to do to get root?
Sent from my 4G LTE HTC One
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Have you flashed the supersu in recovery yet? That could be the reason.
jbh00jh said:
I ran rumrunner and have s-off and unlocked with ClockworkMod Touch Recovery 6.0.4.4. But when I ran root checker it says I do not have root. What do I need to do to get root?
Sent from my 4G LTE HTC One
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Will try that now.
Sent from my 4G LTE HTC One
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Zynesterysdan said:
Have you flashed the supersu in recovery yet? That could be the reason.
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That worked. I thought that was part of the rumrunner flash, but I guess I was wrong. Thanks man.
Sent from my 4G LTE HTC One
I'm on the edge program. The only thing I seem to the missing is how to unroot, s-on, and relock the boot loader when I give this back to vz. Would that be flashing the ruu?
Sorry if this has been covered somewhere else.
emichroc said:
I'm on the edge program. The only thing I seem to the missing is how to unroot, s-on, and relock the boot loader when I give this back to vz. Would that be flashing the ruu?
Sorry if this has been covered somewhere else.
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Check out this thread - Return To Stock LOCKED and S-ON - I have not tried the method in there so I do not know if it works.
jbh00jh said:
Will try that now.
That worked. I thought that was part of the rumrunner flash, but I guess I was wrong. Thanks man.
Sent from my 4G LTE HTC One
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Rumrunners does do that. Something just went wrong during your process.
bsbuggs said:
I have a question...i was one of the lucky ones to get unlocked/rooted on day one from HTC/dev...I us sally flash a few roms but I'm not a crack flasher..am i good with what i have OR should i as-Off using rumrunner?
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I would s off. If you scree up something or flashing cm10 kills your baseband you won't be able to flash the decrypted ruu. As far as I know we don't have an official ruu to flash yet.
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I had htcdev unlock from the first day and have flashed some roms so I'm no longer stock. Is there any stock rom that I can flash and use rumrunner to get s-off?
so here it goes:
i bought the asia tw m8 (HTC__621) just when it got out and unlocked BL,rooted,installed custom roms
so eventually i cant update to newer android versions through ota.
my hboot is 3.16 and i tried s-off
firewater doestnt work on asia tw and sunshine developer wont help me since i live in a county that can`t use paypal
so dear devs. anyone......pleasee help me out
i dont know what to do....
specially when android L is coming to our devices.
thx in advance
Collection of stock backus Go there download the nandroid backup for your device(1.54.709.12) and the stock recovery also on post 1.
Restore the nandroid backup for your device with the custom recovery(It was made with TWRP so use TWRP) flash back the stock recovery and just follow all the OTA updates to get to the latest 4.4.4 and you'll also be ready for 5.0 when it launches(whenever).
You literally did no searching for your problem at all.
armin0131 said:
so here it goes:
i bought the asia tw m8 (HTC__621) just when it got out and unlocked BL,rooted,installed custom roms
so eventually i cant update to newer android versions through ota.
my hboot is 3.16 and i tried s-off
firewater doestnt work on asia tw and sunshine developer wont help me since i live in a county that can`t use paypal
so dear devs. anyone......pleasee help me out
i dont know what to do....
specially when android L is coming to our devices.
thx in advance
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I am sure firewater should work on your device. I just S-OFF and gained superCID. Your device is basically a GSM phone. The only advantage of doing OTA updates are that you will be getting updates a tad faster. The disadvantage is it might brick your phone with wrong firmware/device ID. My advice would be to try to get S-OFF again. If your phone is rooted and bootloader unlocked go ahead and flash a custom recovery such as TWRP. If you do no know how to flash your recovery you can download an app called Flashify and it will flash TWRP for you via google play store app.
Once you get TWRP recovery you can reboot into recovery and simply do a system restart. It will ask if you want to install superSU. Make sure you have superSU installed. follow the instructions from here http://firewater-soff.com/instructions/ I recommend being on a stock sense ROM. Make sure you have debugging enabled via developer option and enabling unknown devices. Once you push firewater to your phone and allow superSU app to grant permission you SHOULD get s-OFF.
Once you get s-OFF you can change your phone version ID to superCID via bootloader+adb command "fastboot oem writecid 1111111" After that you can just flash over any firmware you want. I say wait for devs to get official gpe 5.0 dumps and it'll be way better than an OTA rom.
IF your phone ever gets into a bootloop or frozen reboot it via holding down volume up+down+power. The phone will reboot.
vang2k said:
I am sure firewater should work on your device. I just S-OFF and gained superCID. Your device is basically a GSM phone. The only advantage of doing OTA updates are that you will be getting updates a tad faster. The disadvantage is it might brick your phone with wrong firmware/device ID. My advice would be to try to get S-OFF again. If your phone is rooted and bootloader unlocked go ahead and flash a custom recovery such as TWRP. If you do no know how to flash your recovery you can download an app called Flashify and it will flash TWRP for you via google play store app.
Once you get TWRP recovery you can reboot into recovery and simply do a system restart. It will ask if you want to install superSU. Make sure you have superSU installed. follow the instructions from here http://firewater-soff.com/instructions/ I recommend being on a stock sense ROM. Make sure you have debugging enabled via developer option and enabling unknown devices. Once you push firewater to your phone and allow superSU app to grant permission you SHOULD get s-OFF.
Once you get s-OFF you can change your phone version ID to superCID via bootloader+adb command "fastboot oem writecid 1111111" After that you can just flash over any firmware you want. I say wait for devs to get official gpe 5.0 dumps and it'll be way better than an OTA rom.
IF your phone ever gets into a bootloop or frozen reboot it via holding down volume up+down+power. The phone will reboot.
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People should stop telling people that firewater should work for sure on certain devices ! It's never a guarantee !!!
It's a try and see ! Perform firewater on the stock rom and stock recovery, if it's not working you definitely need sunshine
I recommend being on a stock sense ROM. Make sure you have debugging enabled via developer option and enabling unknown devices. Once you push firewater to your phone and allow superSU app to grant permission you SHOULD get s-OFF.
Once you get s-OFF you can change your phone version ID to superCID via bootloader+adb command "fastboot oem writecid 1111111" After that you can just flash over any firmware you want. I say wait for devs to get official gpe 5.0 dumps and it'll be way better than an OTA rom.
IF your phone ever gets into a bootloop or frozen reboot it via holding down volume up+down+power. The phone will reboot.[/QUOTE]
well the problem is I am way ahead of you I have installed TWRP installed countless roms I'm not a noob I know my way around phones...
and because of my cid and modelid I'm not able to use fire water.
if you can, suggest a way that I can update my frimwire i've tried a lot of things
its not my first rodeo.
helpful suggestions please.thanks in advance
Thanks for saying this stuffbut they are not helping.
well the problem is I am way ahead of you I have installed TWRP installed countless roms I'm not a noob I know my way around phones...
and because of my cid and modelid I'm not able to use fire water.
if you can, suggest a way that I can update my frimwire i've tried a lot of things
its not my first rodeo.
helpful suggestions please.thanks in advance
for the last time:it is the Asia Taiwan(2.5 ghz ver.) a lot of other users tried firewater
and so did I and I can't use it because I'm living in a country that is restricted to use paypal
Mr Hofs said:
People should stop telling people that firewater should work for sure on certain devices ! It's never a guarantee !!!
It's a try and see ! Perform firewater on the stock rom and stock recovery, if it's not working you definitely need sunshine
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Mr hofs is there any way to use sunshine without paying through paypal?for example paying through google play gift card!
BerndM14 said:
Collection of stock backus Go there download the nandroid backup for your device(1.54.709.12) and the stock recovery also on post 1.
Restore the nandroid backup for your device with the custom recovery(It was made with TWRP so use TWRP) flash back the stock recovery and just follow all the OTA updates to get to the latest 4.4.4 and you'll also be ready for 5.0 when it launches(whenever).
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If you are unable to use sushine to s-off due to Paypal, just return to stock ROM and recovery to get the OTAs as stated above.
Mr Hofs said:
People should stop telling people that firewater should work for sure on certain devices ! It's never a guarantee !!!
It's a try and see ! Perform firewater on the stock rom and stock recovery, if it's not working you definitely need sunshine
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redpoint73 said:
If you are unable to use sushine to s-off due to Paypal, just return to stock ROM and recovery to get the OTAs as stated above.
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Wouldn't integrity of the files in the system and data partitions be a problem?!
Cause when you unlock some apps which are in data partition get deleted.
and when the rom is rooted and im guessing the nandroid backup is rooted...
the system partition is changed.
please correct me if i'm wrong
thx
Is there any place i can get the stock untouched rom for my cid number?
i went to htc-dev website's download section and saw a few things about asia tw downloads.but couldnt understand it or how it's used.I would appreciate it if you went there and take a look for yourself
thx
armin0131 said:
Wouldn't integrity of the files in the system and data partitions be a problem?!
Cause when you unlock some apps which are in data partition get deleted.
and when the rom is rooted and im guessing the nandroid backup is rooted...
the system partition is changed.
please correct me if i'm wrong
thx
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Are you talking about system changes preventing OTA updates? If so, being rooted has nothing to do with it, it won't prevent an OTA from installing. It'll remove root from the device in which case you'll have to re-root(if you want) but it won't prevent the OTA from installing.
Besides as far as I know, unless stated differently, the backups in the thread are all unrooted.
armin0131 said:
Is there any place i can get the stock untouched rom for my cid number?
i went to htc-dev website's download section and saw a few things about asia tw downloads.but couldnt understand it or how it's used.I would appreciate it if you went there and take a look for yourself
thx
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Guess you should have made a backup of your device before you messed around. That way you would have known for a fact it was "untouched" .
Just download the backup provided in the link, flash a stock recovery and do the OTA's. You can even go through the small effort ahead of time and "unroot" it just in case it was "rooted" which I doubt it will be.
Go here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376
And read the first AND second post with care !
armin0131 said:
Mr hofs is there any way to use sunshine without paying through paypal?for example paying through google play gift card!
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There is. You can send them US Amazon Gift Card in order to get the code for Sunshine.
Poslano z mojega HTC One_M8 z uporabo Tapatalk
Mr Hofs said:
Go here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376
And read the first AND second post with care !
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I wonder... :angel:
Mr Hofs said:
Go here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376
And read the first AND second post with care !
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Ok what i wanna know is that are the deleted apps for example flashlight
Restored in the 1.54.709.12 backup? So no MD5 problem when i wanna OTA?
armin0131 said:
Wouldn't integrity of the files in the system and data partitions be a problem?!
Cause when you unlock some apps which are in data partition get deleted.
and when the rom is rooted and im guessing the nandroid backup is rooted...
the system partition is changed.
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Root alone does not change system partition. Its only changes to system files you do after root that will prevent OTA.
And in theory, the stock backups in Mr Hofs collection should be made without root, I believe. Root is not needed to make a nandroid.
As far as I have seen, the couple HTC apps that are "deleted" upon bootloader unlock do not affect OTA. There are lots of folks here with unlocked bootloaders that were able to return to stock ROM and recovery and OTA.
redpoint73 said:
Root alone does not change system partition. Its only changes to system files you do after root that will prevent OTA.
And in theory, the stock backups in Mr Hofs collection should be made without root, I believe. Root is not needed to make a nandroid.
As far as I have seen, the couple HTC apps that are "deleted" upon bootloader unlock do not affect OTA. There are lots of folks here with unlocked bootloaders that were able to return to stock ROM and recovery and OTA.
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There are some already rooted.
XSL-FO said:
There are some already rooted.
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One for a know fact as its stated in the download link. And it's very usable for official ota as its 100% complete. And if it bothers people it's rooted they have to read the second post too as it contains a flashable zip to delete root access. But that's not being said here because people probably don't read enough very well !
And indeed root is not needed for a nandroid backup. Only a custom recovery is enough to create one.
ooof that made me sound interesting !
Cheers.
Mr Hofs said:
One for a know fact as its stated in the download link. And it's very usable for official ota as its 100% complete. And if it bothers people it's rooted they have to read the second post too as it contains a flashable zip to delete root access. But that's not being said here because people probably don't read enough very well !
Cheers.
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Well, la-di-da
armin0131 said:
Ok what i wanna know is that are the deleted apps for example flashlight
Restored in the 1.54.709.12 backup? So no MD5 problem when i wanna OTA?
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Ahh ... you're asking about my backup that I uploaded.
No ... nothing is deleted from backup 1.54.709.12, everything is there like the flashlight, calculator & etc. No root, no busybox... simply clean stock.
In fact, once you restore the backup with full wipe of your current ROM, you'll get the setup wizard just like when you setup the phone for the first time.
I would like to root my HTC One M9 without installing TWRP or another custom recovery so that I can easily unroot and then take OTA updates. I have a developer M9 so my bootloader is already unlocked. I will eventually flash custom ROMs but at the moment, the stock firmware with Sense 7 is more than sufficient for me. Can anyone shed some light? I did find this http://www.how-to-root.club/2015/03/htc-one-m9-6891.html but I'm not sure how reliable it is since there's only a few comments.
theloneranger08 said:
I would like to root my HTC One M9 without installing TWRP or another custom recovery so that I can easily unroot and then take OTA updates. I have a developer M9 so my bootloader is already unlocked. I will eventually flash custom ROMs but at the moment, the stock firmware with Sense 7 is more than sufficient for me. Can anyone shed some light? I did find this http://www.how-to-root.club/2015/03/htc-one-m9-6891.html but I'm not sure how reliable it is since there's only a few comments.
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"I could be wrong here and let me know if I am" it doesn't work that way with the m9. That site is bogus anyways, could you not tell by the video? Anyhow, even if you where to root it, there is no way to "simply" unroot it and take ota. There is new security on the m9 dealing with updates. Ota will not work if your software is or has been modified in any way, or if you have super cid. The common way for people to get OTA with the m9 is flash twrp, make a backup BEFORE rooting, flash newest supersu beta inside twrp, profit. When ota comes, go back to twrp, restore non rooted backup, flash stock recovery, take ota. IMO this is all a waste of time with an htc, just bite the bullet and spend $25 on soff and you don't have to worry about ota, you can flash firmware all day long before htc even releases it. Just flash a stock rooted rom like maximus if you don't want a lot of tweaks.
Your boot loader will say modified after flashing twrp, and will still say modified after restoring back to your stock backup. The "modified" boot loader does not affect ota, but if it annoys you like it does me, the only way to get rid of it at this time is to have soff and flash stock RUU in exe or sdcard mode. fastboot oem rebootRUU will not remove boot loader modified
edit.. there is now a way to remove modified status without flashing rom
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"I could be wrong here and let me know if I am" it doesn't work that way with the m9. That site is bogus anyways, could you not tell by the video? Anyhow, even if you where to root it, there is no way to "simply" unroot it and take ota. There is new security on the m9 dealing with updates. Ota will not work if your software is or has been modified in any way, or if you have super cid. The common way for people to get OTA with the m9 is flash twrp, make a backup BEFORE rooting, flash newest supersu beta inside twrp, profit. When ota comes, go back to twrp, restore non rooted backup, flash stock recovery, take ota. IMO this is all a waste of time with an htc, just bite the bullet and spend $25 on soff and you don't have to worry about ota, you can flash firmware all day long before htc even releases it. Just flash a stock rooted rom like maximus if you don't want a lot of tweaks.
Your boot loader will say modified after flashing twrp, and will still say modified after restoring back to your stock backup. The "modified" boot loader does not affect ota, but if it annoys you like it does me, the only way to get rid of it at this time is to have soff and flash stock RUU in exe or sdcard mode. fastboot oem rebootRUU will not remove boot loader modified
edit.. there is now a way to remove modified status without flashing rom
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Thanks for all of the info. I wish simply rooting your phone wasn't such a pain. I guess I'll just flash TWRP, make a backup of my phone, and then root it and then if I need to do an OTA I can just restore the backup and flash the stock recovery. I found this download site for the recovery. I'm assuming I'd pick developer and then recovery. Do I use the signed one? What happens if I flash the wrong recovery? https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=28830
Also, if I S OFF you said I can install OTA updates? So I can install them even if I have a custom recovery and root access?
theloneranger08 said:
Also, if I S OFF you said I can install OTA updates? So I can install them even if I have a custom recovery and root access?
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Not ota, but you can flash firmware without doing anything. So you run a stockish rom like maximus and he releases his own OTA's, then you can flash official firmware to keep up with it, and if you get tired of that method, you can always ruu and go back to completely stock.
an0ther said:
Not ota, but you can flash firmware without doing anything. So you run a stockish rom like maximus and he releases his own OTA's, then you can flash official firmware to keep up with it, and if you get tired of that method, you can always ruu and go back to completely stock.
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So I bit the bullet and installed TWRP, did a Nandroid backup, and then rooted my phone. Now I'm trying to determine whether I want to S-Off my phone. I know that I'd need to RUU and return to stock to flash firmware if I'm S-On, but if I flash a rom that is continually updated, then will I miss any of the features of new firmware released by HTC? I guess my question is, if a dev. updates a rom to reflect the newest firmware from HTC, how does that actually work because from what I've read, it doesn't actually touch the firmware of the phone? So would there be things that HTC can improve that the rom cannot?
theloneranger08 said:
So I bit the bullet and installed TWRP, did a Nandroid backup, and then rooted my phone. Now I'm trying to determine whether I want to S-Off my phone. I know that I'd need to RUU and return to stock to flash firmware if I'm S-On, but if I flash a rom that is continually updated, then will I miss any of the features of new firmware released by HTC? I guess my question is, if a dev. updates a rom to reflect the newest firmware from HTC, how does that actually work because from what I've read, it doesn't actually touch the firmware of the phone? So would there be things that HTC can improve that the rom cannot?
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Correct. Roms do not upgrade firmware. In the future you will need to upgrade firmware when wifi/camera/touchscreen/etc improvements are implemented into firmware. Having soff, you can simply flash just the firmware and not worry about software. Without soff, you have to revert back to stock and take ota or use new firmware RUU. Soff is a must on HTC and is honestly the only reason I didn't buy an s6. Ive had the m7/m8/m9 and the flexibility of rooting and firmware etc is unlike any other.
an0ther said:
Correct. Roms do not upgrade firmware. In the future you will need to upgrade firmware when wifi/camera/touchscreen/etc improvements are implemented into firmware. Having soff, you can simply flash just the firmware and not worry about software. Without soff, you have to revert back to stock and take ota or use new firmware RUU. Soff is a must on HTC and is honestly the only reason I didn't buy an s6. Ive had the m7/m8/m9 and the flexibility of rooting and firmware etc is unlike any other.
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Ok great and I can flash firmware regardless of what rom I'm running?
theloneranger08 said:
Ok great and I can flash firmware regardless of what rom I'm running?
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Correct. It doesn't have to be a perfect match, just in the same base. Right now your current firmware is fine, but most people swap to the newest developer with no red text. If you are new to htc and flashing firmware read instructions carefully or ask me. You need super cid or matching cid to flash firmware that isn't supported by your carrier variant. Everyone has to learn and these phones are near impossible to hard brick as long as you can read. Never flash cdma firmware on gsm phone, never run ruu for your phone if MID doesn't match, never turn s-on back on, but if you have to make sure you are NOT super cid or have unsigned firmware "no red text firmware" Never ever ever unzip a signed firmware file and edit it and zip it back up to flash unless you decrypt it and know what you are doing. Get an 32 gig or less sd card. Feel free to ask me any questions.
an0ther said:
Correct. It doesn't have to be a perfect match, just in the same base. Right now your current firmware is fine, but most people swap to the newest developer with no red text. If you are new to htc and flashing firmware read instructions carefully or ask me. You need super cid or matching cid to flash firmware that isn't supported by your carrier variant. Everyone has to learn and these phones are near impossible to hard brick as long as you can read. Never flash cdma firmware on gsm phone, never run ruu for your phone if MID doesn't match, never turn s-on back on, but if you have to make sure you are NOT super cid or have unsigned firmware "no red text firmware" Never ever ever unzip a signed firmware file and edit it and zip it back up to flash unless you decrypt it and know what you are doing. Get an 32 gig or less sd card. Feel free to ask me any questions.
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Awesome, thanks I really appreciate it. I'll definitely let you know if I have any questions.
theloneranger08 said:
So I bit the bullet and installed TWRP, did a Nandroid backup, and then rooted my phone. Now I'm trying to determine whether I want to S-Off my phone. I know that I'd need to RUU and return to stock to flash firmware if I'm S-On, but if I flash a rom that is continually updated, then will I miss any of the features of new firmware released by HTC? I guess my question is, if a dev. updates a rom to reflect the newest firmware from HTC, how does that actually work because from what I've read, it doesn't actually touch the firmware of the phone? So would there be things that HTC can improve that the rom cannot?
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Check it out this http://www.bestandroidrootedapps.com/how-to-root-htc-one-m9-and-also-have-custom-recovery-installed-on-it/