I just got a call from sprint customer service warning me that they were going to cut me off if I didn't stop tethering.... I did it once to allow my dad to use his laptop to take care of his bills while he is recovering from a triple bypass.. once in 6 months and I get called and warned.. talk about tight! Gimme a break sprint! What a joke! I was deciding between sprint and AT&T when I got my s3 so I may just go that route anyway if Sprint are going to be that ridiculous about it... just a fair warning. ... I was using foxfi with a Bluetooth tether to do it. Whatever you do... don't tether like that or Sprint will call and threaten you...
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I never got a call
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I just got a call from sprint customer service warning me that they were going to cut me off if I didn't stop tethering.... I did it once to allow my dad to use his laptop to take care of his bills while he is recovering from a triple bypass.. once in 6 months and I get called and warned.. talk about tight! Gimme a break sprint! What a joke! I was deciding between sprint and AT&T when I got my s3 so I may just go that route anyway if Sprint are going to be that ridiculous about it... just a fair warning. ... I was using foxfi with a Bluetooth tether to do it. Whatever you do... don't tether like that or Sprint will call and threaten you...
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Sprint offers unlimited data, texts, and calls. Tethering requires a different plan and its limited. If you're tethering for free, you don't have anything to complain about.
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Sprint offers unlimited data, texts, and calls. Tethering requires a different plan and its limited. If you're tethering for free, you don't have anything to complain about.
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What this guy said. The official tether option is considered a add-on, not included in your unlimited data.
Unlimited data only covers the data going to phone not to another device.
I guess you didn't read your tos agreement.
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I have been with sprint for 2 years with my evo4g rooted and using WiFi tether, I connect everything to it and download music, videos, streaming movies and games and never got any call.
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Oh gosh another of these threads....
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I just got a call from sprint customer service warning me that they were going to cut me off if I didn't stop tethering.... I did it once to allow my dad to use his laptop to take care of his bills while he is recovering from a triple bypass.. once in 6 months and I get called and warned.. talk about tight! Gimme a break sprint! What a joke! I was deciding between sprint and AT&T when I got my s3 so I may just go that route anyway if Sprint are going to be that ridiculous about it... just a fair warning. ... I was using foxfi with a Bluetooth tether to do it. Whatever you do... don't tether like that or Sprint will call and threaten you...
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Might be something with that certain program or bluetooth. I've tethered to the Nexus 7 for 300+MB games, and even whole movie downloads prior with the wifi tether options listed here on xda and never had any issues. What the other say is correct though, the plan does only cover unlimited data to the phone.
Fun times either way, thanks for the heads up !
Sprint is Unlimited if you follow the TOS you agreed to.
Nuff said
While Sprint CEO Dan Hesse appeared at Citi’s Entertainment, Media and Telecommunications conference Thursday to talk up Sprint’s new LTE plans, he let slip a change in Sprint’s data policies that could have a big impact on iPhone and other smartphone customers lured in by Sprint’s unlimited plans. Hesse acknowledged that Sprint has been throttling back speeds to the 1 percent heaviest consumers of smartphone data. While technically, the service is still unlimited, the admission leaves egg on Hesse’s face since he’s criticized the competition for adopting similar data restrictions in the past.
Felt I had to out this out their as a reply to the last thread about this >=]
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So I know it really isn't unlimited data and its only 5gb cap but does that include wireless tethering for root users
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Don't know where you got that info but it most definitely is unlimited, there is no 5GB cap.
There is no cap, and Sprint doesn't know about your tethering provided you're using a Market app.
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Well it using the 3g data even if its a market app and I've read numerous times about the 5gb data cap they just put in place if u google it. It says 4g is unlimited but 3g is 5gb
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i went well over 20gigs this month using 3g and my bill was still the same... no throttling either. your fine.
There is NO cap for 3g/4g on Sprints network at all. There are people using 11GB+ a month with no overage fees(I am not one of them). There is how ever a roaming cap of 300MB.
And one more thing since I'm on a family plan I got a call asking how I already used 1gb and that we now have a 5gb data cap its all over google.
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Would you be so kind as to link us to where this claim is made? I googled it and everything I found says unlimited, including Sprint's website.
No Cap
I Then When Pass 5 10 20G On My Phone Tethering I Still on All Day and my bill be the same every month
The Only thing Might Happen Is The Severs Be Busy At Times N My Internet Runs Slow or my Internet dnt Be respondn
all over google? link please... im not buying it. Dont you think they would of called me since i used 27gigs this month and my bill was the same?
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I Then When Pass 5 10 20G On My Phone Tethering I Still on All Day and my bill be the same every month
The Only thing Might Happen Is The Severs Be Busy At Times N My Internet Runs Slow or my Internet dnt Be respondn
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Huh?
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I passed 5g tethering to my laptop and ps3 two months in a row
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Well it using the 3g data even if its a market app and I've read numerous times about the 5gb data cap they just put in place if u google it. It says 4g is unlimited but 3g is 5gb
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nope, they did have a typo on sprint's website that said that but it was changed a long time ago. If they wanted to they could easily find out if you are tethering though.
The 5gb on 3g cap is for the data cards that you plug into a computer this does not apply to sprint phones now at&t & verizon....
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as far as I can tell, its all unlimited, I had one month with almost 3gbs of roaming, no extra charge
There is no limit on 3G or WiMax data usage.
The sole limitations are as follows:
1) Your roaming data usage cannot be larger than your on-Sprint data usage, or else you will incur fees.
2) We will all smack you if you get ridiculous data usage, and Sprint then turns around and increases prices for unlimited data plans and/or eliminates unlimited data plans because of bandwidth hogs like you.
+1 There is ABSOLUTELY NO cap on phone data, only the broadband cards. I went through this last week with customer support then decided to ask our Sprint rep at Best Buy to confirm. The phone plan has absolutely no cap and if you use wifi tether they cant tell anything besides your phone is using data.
For anyone else wanting to argue this, hop on Live Chat with Sprint and verify
There may be a cap if he has a family plan. The $10 that every Evo owner used to moan about entitles us to no cap. However, Sprint has confirmed that any phone that doesn't pay this charge, including data cards, will be capped.
If his family is all on one plan, and only he has the Evo, they may be capping him somewhere.
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Hahahaha! I was wondering the same thing! Trying to read what that guy wrote was almost impossible.
i recieved a phone call from my father not sprint saying i used 1gb of the 5gb cap and me him and my bro have a 4g phone. maybe it is cards only but i dont know why he would tell me that. i pay the 10 extra too
like the title says. ive been throttled. now my phone is usless. cmon i only got to 5gb thats all. . now i have to wait .
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like the title says. ive been throttled. now my phone is usless. cmon i only got to 5gb thats all. . now i have to wait .
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LOLZ...how did you manage that? I'm a long-time customer so I'm hoping that I have a true "unlimited" plan that I paid for. I think the limits only apply to recently signed up customers.
<fingers crossed>
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LOLZ...how did you manage that? I'm a long-time customer so I'm hoping that I have a true "unlimited" plan that I paid for. I think the limits only apply to recently signed up customers.
<fingers crossed>
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i dont recall. maybe i was tehtering, to watch netflix on the ps3 at my home girls house who knows lol .ive been with tmo since 05-06
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At least you take it lightly
Honestly, 5GB is a lot and if you are using your phones tethering to run your home internet well gotta put that one on you...haha. How many movies did you stream and were they in HD? =)
Throttling always stinks though...I am fairly new to TMO but is there a way to pay more to get it turned back on? Luckily I am on a huge business plan so we don't have throttling.
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At least you take it lightly
Honestly, 5GB is a lot and if you are using your phones tethering to run your home internet well gotta put that one on you...haha. How many movies did you stream and were they in HD? =)
Throttling always stinks though...I am fairly new to TMO but is there a way to pay more to get it turned back on? Luckily I am on a huge business plan so we don't have throttling.
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i usually do no more than 2gb a month. but i guess i went ape **** this month. must of been a few movies. i only tether when her wifi is down. now i have to wait until the 2nd of next month
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i dont recall. maybe i was tehtering, to watch netflix on the ps3 at my home girls house who knows lol .ive been with tmo since 05-06
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How do you get that screen on your phone? Want to know my bandwidth usage.
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How do you get that screen on your phone? Want to know my bandwidth usage.
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It's the T-Mobile "My Account" App
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.tmobile.selfhelp&feature=search_result
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LOLZ...how did you manage that? I'm a long-time customer so I'm hoping that I have a true "unlimited" plan that I paid for. I think the limits only apply to recently signed up customers.
<fingers crossed>
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Nope. Everybody gets it after 5.
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Nope. Everybody gets it after 5.
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lol i did 5.09
look for speed test on the market, its an app
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look for speed test on the market, its an app
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he wasnt asking for that. he wants to know how much data he has used for the month. thats the my account app. you mistaken it for benchmarking the network speed
i upgraded to the 10gb cap because I burn through data like no tomorrow.
before I updated my plan I couldnt check my data use but they did throttle me.
many times before I had ran xbox live and world of warcraft through my phone and never got throttled. So I think they are watching closer!
How much for the 10 GB cap?
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I hit the 5gb soft cap of the old "unlimited plan" about 6 months ago. I stream slacker radio from my desk almost all day every day. I hit it 2 days prior to my cycle so it was ok I think that month i hit 5.5gb's lol
Its like 60
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this is my first data package, il prob b under 2 gb
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i usually do no more than 2gb a month. but i guess i went ape **** this month. must of been a few movies. i only tether when her wifi is down. now i have to wait until the 2nd of next month
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wholey shizzzz, that is barely usable !
Wow thats cool about the T-mobile "my account" app, I had never used that before lol. Maybe all this bloatware isn't as worthless as I thought? Regardless I'm interested to see how much data I'll gobble up a month with this phone...
Ouch that hurts to even see that. [email protected][email protected]$
Hang in there...
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i usually do no more than 2gb a month. but i guess i went ape **** this month. must of been a few movies. i only tether when her wifi is down. now i have to wait until the 2nd of next month
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i went over my 5gb data last month cause my internet went out and i tethered to my desktop. i did it for about 5 days (mostly nights when i am at the desktop) streaming youtubes and show series. my bill cycle was ending so i didnt care if i get capped but it really sucks because its god awfully slow..
I was one of the people who switched to sprint during the scare of a buyout of tmobile from the evil empire. Well I used this phone a whole great deal while working as a person tech to download drivers and such. Now sprint is terminating my contract and I have to move elsewhere. I am wondering who is the best alternative to sprint, and wondering what phone to get. I also want to know about where I can sell this phone.
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Well I think it all depends on how much your looking to spend and how much talk/text/data you need a month.
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Meh If I was not on sprint I would be on Verizon just for reasons of coverage. Though id love to be back on a GSM carrier.
Did T-Mobile cover your needs? If so, just go back to them. I know they're on par with Sprint as far as pricing goes.
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Meh If I was not on sprint I would be on Verizon just for reasons of coverage. Though id love to be back on a GSM carrier.
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Yeah if I chose a postpaid carrier I would probably go with Verizon for CDMA or T-Mobile for GSM.
For prepaid I would probably go with straight talk.
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After going through some of the choices I narrowed it down to the following:
HTC rezound
Droid razor max
Tmobile version of this phone
Any others I should be taking a look at? I only root and run vanilla OS.
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I would go RAZR MAXX if you dont mind the locked bootloader, just on size and battery life. But being the tinkerer I am I would end up on the GNEX in the current selection sadly.
If I were you I would port my et4g over to page plus or something and wait a few months for the gs3 to drop and go back to T-Mobile at that point
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At&t is a union company. If you support the working class that is where you should go.
Sell the phone on Ebay.
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I say get unlock galaxy note and get straight talk sim and its prepraid that what im doing but im still keeping my sprint line
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How about Boost Mobile that way you can still possibly keep your phone. I know they are affiliated with sprint but I don't think they will hate on you because of that. Question what was the reason they terminated your contract?
If I helped you out in any way please thank me. Thanks.
I know Credo has this phone (exact same version), don't know about pricing though.
I pay 106 a month without discounts. Anyone else paying this amount?
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At&t is a union company. If you support the working class that is where you should go.
Sell the phone on Ebay.
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That explains AT&T's higher priced plans. IS that why the OP already called them evil empire.
Definitely find the coverage and plan that fits you but I always tell people to pick the phone that you know you will like. Settling for a device that we use for so many things even before rooting is not going to end well.
Good luck.
At least any of the other major networks will be a huge upgrade over sprint in data speeds. I came to sprint from T mobile and I really regret it. Though I think my sprint phones are awesome, they are crippled by an awful network.
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That explains AT&T's higher priced plans. IS that why the OP already called them evil empire.
Definitely find the coverage and plan that fits you but I always tell people to pick the phone that you know you will like. Settling for a device that we use for so many things even before rooting is not going to end well.
Good luck.
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Actually, here's the reason for AT&T's high priced plans. Randall Stephenson compensation Now for a point of reference here is the compensation for the POTUS
Randy had AT&T buy his house when Corporate HQ was moved from San Antonio to Dallas. He and his family enjoy free health care for life.
Nuenjin said:
That explains AT&T's higher priced plans. IS that why the OP already called them evil empire.
Definitely find the coverage and plan that fits you but I always tell people to pick the phone that you know you will like. Settling for a device that we use for so many things even before rooting is not going to end well.
Good luck.
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You obviously don't understand.
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At&t is a union company. If you support the working class that is where you should go.
Sell the phone on Ebay.
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Scratch ATT from my ever use list. Know I know why their coverage sucks, you drop calls, get the echo, and everyone there seems like the customer is a PITA.
Scratch Samsung too. Don't let the door hit you in the a$$.
http://samsunggroupunion.org/gnu/bbs/board.php?bo_table=news_union&wr_id=30735
And you can listen to this as you leave.
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So who are we supporting through AT&T, the management or workers?
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Actually, as a member (unemployed) of local 613, I do understand labor union priorities and politics. I don't have a problem with unions in general but do not for one second proclaim their method of operation as a universal fit for everyone. It isn't.
As someone who is working (cue scary voice) non-union, I shouldn't be criticized for doing what is necessary to provide for my family in both where I work or whose phone service I select. (getting back to the topic of phones)
That attitude is a large part of how Apple operates (trying to stay on topic) and since we are h4x0rs, we must recognize that sometimes the universal fit, is not for us.
To the OP -I apologize for my contribution to the thread jack.
I upgraded my line to the SGS3 yesterday and now I'm noticing that my usage says certain usage out of 4 GB. Not sure what's going on but it appears like Sprint may be removing the unlimited data feature soon? They've been changing a lot of things on their website lately.
Anyways, Overstew sent me this picture of his usage.
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Anyone know what to think of it or are we just being paranoid?
Very interesting. Can you hop on their support chat and ask why you're showing a 4GB data limit? Mine is still showing unlimited, but I have not made any account changes or upgrades since 9/2011.
Unlimited Data is practically the only thing keeping me on Sprint. Hell, even T-Mobile is better...
Just noticed that's my screenshot lol.
I'll chat with them and see but I don't really see myself getting an accurate answer from Sprint reps.
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Just noticed that's my screenshot lol.
I'll chat with them and see but I don't really see myself getting an accurate answer from Sprint reps.
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That's weird looking/ First is shows there's a 4Gb limit on 3g and then it shows same 3G data being unlimited. Did you photoshop this overstew?
Look at the date. It says from 7/1 to 7/1...
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Lol, I think the more likely scenario is it's a website bug.
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might it me an LTE thing since they are bring out their new connections out, its only happening on the SG III?
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Looks like they prorated it for some unknown reason. The dates that say 7/1 to current are still unlimited.
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Maybe it's just a 4GB limit per day.
It might have been a bug with the 1 second Leap Second that happened at the end of last month. Just a guess since the billing cycle for the 4GB above is from 4/1 to 4/1.
For more information on it, click here:
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It's a website bug, I've had customers come in before showing the same thing.
Good luck trying to get anywhere near 4gigs on 3g
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They'll eventually dump unlimited, it's just a matter of time. I'll be switching to Verizon that same day.
mine still says unlimited on 3g/4g. Must be a mistake on ur acct.
Your inlet allowed so much on roaming networks.Sprints still unlimited.
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They'll eventually dump unlimited, it's just a matter of time. I'll be switching to Verizon that same day.
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There is no other reason to stick around, especially if you're on a family plan.
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Ascertion said:
Maybe it's just a 4GB limit per day.
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To tell you the truth I wouldn't mind if they did something like this. 4GB a day but still have unlimited data so u can use like 120GB in one month or maybe like 3GB or something. This will stop ppl that use wireless tether for free and download torrents all day and hog up all that bandwidth. Lol
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Sephirothvfc said:
To tell you the truth I wouldn't mind if they did something like this. 4GB a day but still have unlimited data so u can use like 120GB in one month or maybe like 3GB or something. This will stop ppl that use wireless tether for free and download torrents all day and hog up all that bandwidth. Lol
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a packet is a packet, doesn't matter if it comes from a phone, a computer, or a leap frog toy that your 2 year old son wiped his boogers on. anyone with a clue would know you can torrent on your phone too. did you also forget that some people have done away with cable and simply stream netflix and hulu via HDMI from their phones to their TVs? what about some of the new games that require hundreds of MB of additional data to be downloaded to your sdcard before you can even play it? should they get charged tethering fees for not tethering even though they're using the same amount of data as someone who is?
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a packet is a packet, doesn't matter if it comes from a phone, a computer, or a leap frog toy that your 2 year old son wiped his boogers on. anyone with a clue would know you can torrent on your phone too. did you also forget that some people have done away with cable and simply stream netflix and hulu via HDMI from their phones to their TVs? what about some of the new games that require hundreds of MB of additional data to be downloaded to your sdcard before you can even play it? should they get charged tethering fees for not tethering even though they're using the same amount of data as someone who is?
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Cellular data was never meant to be a replacement for your home internet connection.
If you're going to stream Netflix or Hulu to your TV from your PHONE connection, then yes, I think you should get charged for that.
ATT is screwing me by refusing to carry forward my unlimited data plan to LTE and has repeatedly tried to force me onto a capped plan.
I saw a newspaper ad today (archaic - I know!) saying T-Mo has an unlimited everything plan for this phone for $90 and it's tempting. I'm hoping to sell or swap my existing GS3.
Is there anything I should be aware of?
Also, what is T-mo's take on this plan if I try to tether?
Thanks.
I'm pretty sure you can just swap sims? Tethering has been beaten to death on these forums. I'd take a few minutes to search and ask your questions in those threads if they haven't been covered yet.
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I'm pretty sure you can just swap sims? Tethering has been beaten to death on these forums. I'd take a few minutes to search and ask your questions in those threads if they haven't been covered yet.
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His S3 won't get HSPA on T-Mobile. He needs a T-Mobile S3.
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I'm pretty sure you can just swap sims? Tethering has been beaten to death on these forums. I'd take a few minutes to search and ask your questions in those threads if they haven't been covered yet.
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I think I already made it clear I anticipated getting a new S3. I know that they aren't fully compatible for 3/4G/LTE.
Re: Tethering. I though this was a new plan - it appears to be as much in the advert.
They block tethering on unlimited data plans but rooted tethering might work. I haven't tried it yet.
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They are trying to kill teather with updates. I tried T-Mobile with still having my main line on att. Speeds were either really fast or dead slow. I'd rather just stick with att because it's decently fast wherever I go.
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I just recently re-upped with T-Mobile. They have two types of plans out right now. They have what they call the classic plan and I can't remember what their new plans are called.
Anyway, with the classic plan you get the phone subsidized, but the plan itself is pretty expensive. On the other hand if you get their newer plan, you pay full price for the phone, but the plan itself is dirt cheap (cheapest I can find among the major carriers). While $600 for a phone might seem like a lot, they only require a $200 down payment and since you're starting a new contract you'll probably get $100 or so knocked off. The rest of the price of the phone is spread throughout the first 20 months of your contract.
Applying a little basic finance and assuming you have a decent stock portfolio, I estimated my cost of my Galaxy S3 at around $350 and my monthly fees went down from $230-250 to its current $140-150.
Don't know much about T-Mobile signal in your area, but if you can manage a consistent 3G I'd say it's worth the cost savings.
I would tell you that you will be very happy with t-mobile vs att, I did the switch my self and I couldn't be any happier, my data is very fast and yes it is faster than att and I get 4g 95% of the time in my area, my brother still have att with the s3 and my phone is way faster than his, on a speed test mine gets between 17000-22000 kbs consent vs his the highest he gets is about 5000-8000
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kbs....I don't care what every one else says..but I drove from Michigan to Florida and I have coverage on t-mobile network 99% of the time....just my own personal experience .....good luck.
I forgot to mention that my phone is bone stock. Stock Rome and no root yet.
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galsalah said:
I would tell you that you will be very happy with t-mobile vs att, I did the switch my self and I couldn't be any happier, my data is very fast and yes it is faster than att and I get 4g 95% of the time in my area, my brother still have att with the s3 and my phone is way faster than his, on a speed test mine gets between 17000-22000 kbs consent vs his the highest he gets is about 5000-8000View attachment 1339975kbs....I don't care what every one else says..but I drove from Michigan to Florida and I have coverage on t-mobile network 99% of the time....just my own personal experience .....good luck.
I forgot to mention that my phone is bone stock. Stock Rome and no root yet.
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Outside buildings great. Inside of them not so much. Everyone has a different experience. Hopefully it will be better for you
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