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[Q] Root my 2.3.6 or wait for ICS upgrade?

Hi all,
I'm still on the fence about rooting my t989 and so I'm looking for advice. I got the 2.3.6 update and I really want ICS but I'm willing to wait for it though. Also, I'm pretty conservative when it comes to risks such as rooting due to warranties, bricking, and losing functionality. However, I'll be traveling for a while and tethering could be handy and titanium backup has always been attractive to me. But what happens if ICS comes out? I think I loose root if I update OTA, but I should be able to get root again. I'm not a big fan of real 3rd party software because I don't want to work with bugs so if I got a new ROM, it may only be CM9 or similar as reliability is important to me. And then I don't want a new ROM if it doesn't use the Linux Kernel since Ubuntu is developing that OS to share that Kernel. Do I even need a new ROM? I think touchwiz is fine. Pages of apps are better than scrolling through them IMO.
So any suggestions on what I should do? Thanks!

Root it unless you plan on running stock ics. Chances are the ota will be releases here before it hits your phone we have a couple really nice ics roms right now. Don't know what your waiting for lol
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If you want to root, root. More than likely you will be able to download the stock ICS rom from here before you get it on your phone. As soon as one person gets it, our awesome devs will be on it like flys on ****, and we will see a stock rooted rom almost immediately.
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Towle said:
If you want to root, root. More than likely you will be able to download the stock ICS rom from here before you get it on your phone. As soon as one person gets it, our awesome devs will be on it like flys on ****, and we will see a stock rooted rom almost immediately.
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I was rooted however I dropped my phone last week and had to get a replacement now I am just gonna wait for ICS to drop...
It's all good with me, at least I have my wifi calling and no delay or echo while taking my minibath.

Rooted mine several weeks ago. Tired of waiting for official ICS from T-Mobile and Samsung. Once the official version is released, the devs will have a rooted version available for flashing so you won't have to un-root.
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Just root, you won't be disappointed. Plus you can always go back if you want.
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This isn't iOS. Don't think about and root it
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Just root it you will be happier plus its just as easy to unroot as it is to root
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Was on 2.3.6 rooted for months waiting on ICS update. We finally got a rom yesterday that doesn't have any call echo problems, or really any problems. Flashed darkside's newest 4.0.4 rom this morning and have had smooth sailing all day.
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iLeopard said:
This isn't iOS. Don't think about and root it
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+1. Its easy to unroot and return to stock if need be. Till then we have fully functional daily driver ics roms already so what are you waiting for? Take control of your device. That's why you went with android over iOS and wp7 in the first place anyway isnt it?
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Thanks for your suggestions. I'll go ahead and root. I really want titanium backup. Is this the best thread for a HOW TO root?: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1514434

bripod said:
Thanks for your suggestions. I'll go ahead and root. I really want titanium backup. Is this the best thread for a HOW TO root?: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1514434
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This is the thread i followed to root. Very simple instructions. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1311194 but yeah same method one has pics one dont.
Edit: Unrooting the phone is the same process as rooting except you flash a different file to the phone.

My suggestion is to root. But don't sweat CM9 it is pretty buggy right now because its still beta and isn't officially supported on our phones. But there are plenty of stable ICS roms now and even if u don't care for the few bugs that some may have, there are also some amazing GB rooms out there too.
Just my 2 cents.
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But I don't NEED a new ROM do I? Doesn't it just change the GUI? Basically I just want tethering and freeze bloat apps and ads, but a battery life boost would be great. How much does it change under the hood to expand capability? From what I can tell, root apps are the only thing that expands features.

Root and install a rom... If you think your phone is good, with a rom you'll see your phone is just great

Sorry for all my questions but is the kernel held within the ROM? And whatever ROM I choose, I can just flash to different just like that huh? Like it's an easy process?
My brother has Juggernaut, it didn't look any different than touchwiz except for flashy little things like the screen turn off and stuff. I just need function, not flash.

Some roms com with their own kernels, like TDJ's ones... You can flash a rom and then change it for another, but you have to wipe your data for a clean install (there's always the option to backup your info)

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Stock vs. Custom ROM - Need Opinions

ii've had a few phones before that i've installed custom roms on. and all these roms had bugs and made my phone behave slow and weird. i want to try a custom rom on the s3. but i dont want the same issues on it. i got some questions:
1. is stock better than custom rom for the s3?
2. are the custom roms SPECIFICALLY for the s3 bug free?
3. can you suggest which roms are the best for the s3 for battery life?

The rooms out there are great. If you want a stable Rom stick to the roms biased on ICS. I am waiting on official JB until I do a JB Rom
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I haven't felt the need to flash a custom ROM, the stock ROM is just fine. One thing I did do is flash the latest Jelly Bean leak, pretty much everything works fine with it.

Often times we convince ourselves we are missing out on something, so we flash this or that rom, or hack, to try to get what we thought we might be missing, but don't see a big difference.
Your question alone shows hesitancy in doing something like flashing a custom rom. If you are worried about losing any features, or introducing some new bug, then stick with a stock rom.
But I highly recommend rooting, removing all the bloat, and at the minimum cleaning up your stock rom.

redhooka said:
I haven't felt the need to flash a custom ROM, the stock ROM is just fine. One thing I did do is flash the latest Jelly Bean leak, pretty much everything works fine with it.
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do u think JB looks better than ICS?
bradleyw801 said:
Often times we convince ourselves we are missing out on something, so we flash this or that rom, or hack, to try to get what we thought we might be missing, but don't see a big difference.
Your question alone shows hesitancy in doing something like flashing a custom rom. If you are worried about losing any features, or introducing some new bug, then stick with a stock rom.
But I highly recommend rooting, removing all the bloat, and at the minimum cleaning up your stock rom.
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i'm heistant cuz i want to be careful.. i highly agree with you.. as a matter of fact, i was thinking of getting my s3 rooted when i get it this week. do you mind posting a link on how to root the s3 for tmobile?

Just look in the stickies in the development section.
Here's the link, though:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771687
The cm10 nightlies are daily drivers. I'm running them on work phones and install them on customers phones on a daily basis
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Okay been lurking this forum ever since the tmo s3 came out and finally made an account. I've been holding back on rooting but just yesterday I saw the link in your reply about not tripping the warranty counter. Is it really recommended to root my phone? I do want to remove the bloatware but I'm not sure of the cons of rooting. Also this is my first smart phone but I have friends tell me it's perfectly safe as long as I follow directions.
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baghdadassup said:
Okay been lurking this forum ever since the tmo s3 came out and finally made an account. I've been holding back on rooting but just yesterday I saw the link in your reply about not tripping the warranty counter. Is it really recommended to root my phone? I do want to remove the bloatware but I'm not sure of the cons of rooting. Also this is my first smart phone but I have friends tell me it's perfectly safe as long as I follow directions.
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I recommend to root just for the ad blocking alone. Everything else is just a bonus.
But, the stock roms provide excellent battery life for what they are. The only reason I've rooted is so that I can flash ICS-like themes. Stock TWiz is atrocious-looking.

erikikaz said:
I recommend to root just for the ad blocking alone. Everything else is just a bonus.
But, the stock roms provide excellent battery life for what they are. The only reason I've rooted is so that I can flash ICS-like themes. Stock TWiz is atrocious-looking.
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Ohh, cool. I'm downloading the image atm and was wondering, What's ODIN? Is that provided with the phone or do I have to dl that from somewhere?

Odin is the other part of Samsung phones that gives you full control.
I believe zedomax's video gives the link, but I will double check. There is a mobile Odin as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJss1_dZZeY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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obla1 said:
ii've had a few phones before that i've installed custom roms on. and all these roms had bugs and made my phone behave slow and weird. i want to try a custom rom on the s3. but i dont want the same issues on it. i got some questions:
1. is stock better than custom rom for the s3?
2. are the custom roms SPECIFICALLY for the s3 bug free?
3. can you suggest which roms are the best for the s3 for battery life?
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1. Define better.
2. Stock isn't bug free. But, there are ROMs with less bugs and ROMs with more. The devs will let you know in the first post.
3. AOSP and AOKP have the best battery. But, remember that the kernel you install plays a role.
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Being an admitted flash addict when I switched from my vibrant to the s3 I was only going to root to get rid of bloat and install custom kernel as usual I spend way to much time flashing refreshing and tweaking what is already a great phone out of the box. So it is truly up to the individual. I will say there is great dev support and a lot of familiar faces from my previous device. Good luck in what ever you decide just make sure you do plenty of reading.
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[Q] Just got my New Note2, Don't know which Rom is the better way to go.

I got my Brand New T-Mobile Note2, here has too many choice on ROM, Mod ect. I am lost.
I would like to get help from you guys to point a right direction.
I am Looking for the most stable and trouble less ROM or Mod to root my Note 2
Many many thanks!
Happy Holidays to All !:good:

If you don't want trouble with apps not working, force closes, and want your samsung s-pen apps to work stick with stock roms. i've had 4.1.2 stock uploaded by teshxx and the thing is smoother than smooth with battery life much better than 4.1.1. I've had the phone since t-mo launch date so I can definitely notice the increase.
You don't have to wipe data either. Just go to recovery and wipe dalvic / cache and you're good to go. Good luck.

boodies said:
If you don't want trouble with apps not working, force closes, and want your samsung s-pen apps to work stick with stock roms. i've had 4.1.2 stock uploaded by teshxx and the thing is smoother than smooth with battery life much better than 4.1.1. I've had the phone since t-mo launch date so I can definitely notice the increase.
You don't have to wipe data either. Just go to recovery and wipe dalvic / cache and you're good to go. Good luck.
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boodies, do you have the link for 4.1.2 stock by teshxx?

jialing said:
boodies, do you have the link for 4.1.2 stock by teshxx?
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You are one lazy guy you know that? lol But since you're new,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2042263

jialing said:
boodies, do you have the link for 4.1.2 stock by teshxx?
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These 4.1.2 roms have great battery life

Personally, the only reason I would get a custom rom other than samsungs is for the ICS software buttons. Unfortunately, non of them have that option, even the Cyanogen roms. Yes I know we can modify a simple file in the note 2 and I have dont that before but it totally messes up the layout.

boodies said:
You are one lazy guy you know that? lol But since you're new,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2042263
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Thx a lot, I am got that rom running on my note 2 now.

jialing said:
Thx a lot, I am got that rom running on my note 2 now.
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congrats!~ I honestly thought you were going to need some help with that other installation stuff as well ^___^

i've been using the jellybeer rom that works for TMO in the AT&T forum and i really love it.
Boodies: it has your software buttons.
Only cons of this rom is the loss of multiwindow but that's small for me compared to what i gain. Flash what works for you.

netninja said:
i've been using the jellybeer rom that works for TMO in the AT&T forum and i really love it.
Boodies: it has your software buttons.
Only cons of this rom is the loss of multiwindow but that's small for me compared to what i gain. Flash what works for you.
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thank you so much! i will definitely look into this tonight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

boodies: my pleasure. Hope it works out for you

Feel the force!
jialing said:
I got my Brand New T-Mobile Note2, here has too many choice on ROM, Mod ect. I am lost.
I would like to get help from you guys to point a right direction.
I am Looking for the most stable and trouble less ROM or Mod to root my Note 2
Many many thanks!
Happy Holidays to All !:good:
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I am HUGE fan of the Jedi Master series, it's worth a try if your just looking for something that everything works on that is NOT pure stock.

I've had nothing but issues with the Jedi roms jedi master has echo problem maybe fixed now as I have not used that in sometime. Jedi X data drops. Tweaked is by far the best as its 100 percent fully customizable!!! S4 Themed is also another good one! Those 2 are the best if your looking for a T Mobile based rom.
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TWEAKED all the way to grave. That's how I put it. Very stable and just like the name its Tweakable
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I'm new to the Note 2 scene....I wanted to put cyanogenmod on my Note 2 but I don't want to deal the force closures and bugs ether. I'm confused...why would some flash their note 2 with a stock rom if it's not going to have the features of cyanogenmod such as the DSP aadvaudio settings, custom brightness levels, and advanced configurations on the slide down bar?

Was rooted jedi cleanrom and jellythunder now stock

I rooted and installed custom roms just for multi Window bit decided to unroot when the ota AT&T update for multi window came out... since then I noticed a decent amount of batt decrease and a slighr lag here and there... considering going back to cleanrom... also noticed that pulling a app over from multiwindow bar sometimes only allows full screen not half.... please someone talk me out of it... I do like stock for ease of updates etc...
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Its all peraonal preference my friend. Its your phone. Do what you want to with it:thumbup:
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mrklc1974 said:
I rooted and installed custom roms just for multi Window bit decided to unroot when the ota AT&T update for multi window came out... since then I noticed a decent amount of batt decrease and a slighr lag here and there... considering going back to cleanrom... also noticed that pulling a app over from multiwindow bar sometimes only allows full screen not half.... please someone talk me out of it... I do like stock for ease of updates etc...
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One of the best thing about custom roms is that you get all the goodies before the updates that sometimes come months later if at all.For me,when I flash a custom rom on my android device it finally becomes mine.Until then you are literally AT&T/Verizon's etc,etc,etc *****.With all that useless crap on your phone that is forced on you without a choice.I personally like to have full control over what is on my device especially because now a days these "toys" cost as much as my laptop.Again,my personal preference.If anything I would try to talk you into re-rooting.LOL
p.s I am running cleanRom and it is absolutely the bees knees.

technut said:
One of the best thing about custom roms is that you get all the goodies before the updates that sometimes come months later if at all.For me,when I flash a custom rom on my android device it finally becomes mine.Until then you are literally AT&T/Verizon's etc,etc,etc *****.With all that useless crap on your phone that is forced on you without a choice.I personally like to have full control over what is on my device especially because now a days these "toys" cost as much as my laptop.Again,my personal preference.If anything I would try to talk you into re-rooting.LOL
p.s I am running cleanRom and it is absolutely the bees knees.
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Amen. The battery life, at least in my experience, is unquestionably superior on Jedi vs stock, and i fought hardddd to stay stock like constantly diagnosing wake locks and battery usage.

Or you can flash a different kernel
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mrklc1974 said:
I rooted and installed custom roms just for multi Window bit decided to unroot when the ota AT&T update for multi window came out... since then I noticed a decent amount of batt decrease and a slighr lag here and there... considering going back to cleanrom... also noticed that pulling a app over from multiwindow bar sometimes only allows full screen not half.... please someone talk me out of it... I do like stock for ease of updates etc...
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Well...duh...did you honestly expect something better than what you had ? Did you suddenly expect a pushed update from AT&T to offer you a better experiance than those 3 custom roms ? Ease of updates...? I don't get it...Are you actually trying to say relying on a OTA update is easier than actually flashing a new update yourself ? Are you saying waiting and waiting and hoping you get a good ota download and it flashes properly for you..is better than being able to flash and being able to reflash if you actually need it ?
Sorry if I sound rude...but come on...get real would you...You knew the benifits going in and why you rooted it and flashed them..and now you want folks to paint a all rosey picture that a full blown unrooted phone is better than a rooted one running those 3 custom roms...Sorry...it ain't going to happen unless it is coming from someone who didn't install something correctly..or just perfers the bloat and limitations of a stock phone..
If you want & like the stock feel and look...flash Scott's AT&T special edition of his Clean rom..It's debloated..and he has linked to some theming for it..
If you want to go way beyond..wait for Truth's new one out later today or tommorrow..It's fully themed..debloated..has all the latest & greatest available..is fast..and everything works on it..What more could you want...
Personally...I won't ever run a stock phone on purpose after the allowable return time for it..Triangle away has removed the worry of returning it for service..and TWRP has made flashing anything a non issue as well..
It's your phone..run it the way you want to..and be happy..but please don't ask on a developers forum to be convinced to stay on a stock rom..that is just plain lame...IMHO
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I know exactly what you mean and I did feel the same way. Samsung has done an amazing job with this phone. However I have used Jedi, miscoms international roms, cleanrom, now on cleanatt. I have found with a on a custom kernel either persus or the aslyum/note2core. As long as I undervolted and didn't over clock my battery life was a lot better than stock and phone was much quicker and responsive over stock and still had all the great features. We have some awesome devs here for roms and kernels. To me is a very hard choice on what rom to stay on as well as kernel. They are all amazing in there own ways and in my opinion all awesome. I hope no devs flame me I'm just saying they are all very intelligent people at this and I see great things in all there work. AS FOR NOW. I'm on Scotts dedicated at&T. I have took around 40 user and system apps that "I" consider bloat and running persus kernel with the profile zip of 2 offered. My battery life is insane. All day of heavy use and still about 70perecnt left after 8 hours or so. Hope I may have helped you or someone else. I love open source
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I have been over clocked to 1800 and above on Jedi and pulled over 2 days off charger with over 8 hours screen time. If you want to stick with stock look, Clean Special build and definitely a kernel. They pull the debugging crap out, optimize voltages, etc. Kernel devs have been working magic...and finding bugs that Sammy, HTC, missed
Edit...patiently waiting for that Blackout later today.
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mrklc1974 said:
... considering going back to cleanrom... .... please someone talk me out of it... I do like stock for ease of updates etc...
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Well...if you want to stay stock...you could try disabling various stock apps that you don't need via settings:app mgr...it's hard to hurt anything and you can always re-able them.
other than that
I think updates are "cleanrom" are pretty easy. Named "clean..." for a reason and I feel like it's stock with added benefits. Have fun deciding.

mrklc1974 said:
I rooted and installed custom roms just for multi Window bit decided to unroot when the ota AT&T update for multi window came out... since then I noticed a decent amount of batt decrease and a slighr lag here and there... considering going back to cleanrom... also noticed that pulling a app over from multiwindow bar sometimes only allows full screen not half.... please someone talk me out of it... I do like stock for ease of updates etc...
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Custom rom always. I ran my Note 2 stocked for 2 days and could not stand it. I had to because I was out of town for those 2 days. I suggest you load the Jelly Thunder Blackout 3.0 ROM asap. You'll love it.

I bought a second one white this time just got this reason. One to root to death and one totally stock. Just got the ota on the stock one and already miss tapatalk in the multi window. Once the allshare bug gets fixed universally (built into ROM) I think they both will be rooted
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Jelly thunder is where its at the dark theme is everywhere

The reason it goes full screen on some apps is because not all apps work with half screen. Not stock anyway.
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just_visiting said:
Custom rom always. I ran my Note 2 stocked for 2 days and could not stand it. I had to because I was out of town for those 2 days. I suggest you load the Jelly Thunder Blackout 3.0 ROM asap. You'll love it.
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running that since day one! Jedi didn't play some of my videos so didn't use it! Plus blackout is what you want. Much better!
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Jelly thunder is where its at the dark theme is everywhere
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Agree 100%, geared for the older folks on xda. Lol
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Yeah im running jelly thunder on my note 2. But some reason its model is galaxy nexus.. but im loving roms. Come back to the dark side. Less bloat ware. And everything you need on your phone.
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808shorty said:
Yeah im running jelly thunder on my note 2. But some reason its model is galaxy nexus.. but im loving roms. Come back to the dark side. Less bloat ware. And everything you need on your phone.
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Well u did not follow complete instructions on installing the rom. You will be running into problems if u don't fix asap.

Who prefers to stay on STOCK?????

i'm curious if anyone here on XDA prefers being on stock. How come? You don't like roms? root? Just curious on what people that love to stay on stock.
Thanks.

This thread belongs in the Q&A forum, not the General forum. (Also, your '?' key seems to be stuck.)

Gary02468 your number lock seems to be stuck. Qt pie.

I am kinda in that boat
I just got my note2 and have since flashed recovery / and clean rom however I tend to like sticking stockish till I know the water temp so to speak. I tried to just do the root with out changing the counter but OTA's killed my root. Hence the twrp and clean rom...
I just cant win... heh.

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i'm curious if anyone here on XDA prefers being on stock. How come? You don't like roms? root? Just curious on what people that love to stay on stock.
Thanks.
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I love being on stock dont get me wrong I love the clean roms and root access but since I am coming as a long term iPhone user stock feels amazing and very open to be able to do so much personalizing to the device without having to get into roms is great but I do hate the boatware lol
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Nice to see an iphone user do the swap
I gotta say its awesome to see an iPhone user move on over.

I'm staying in stock to keep the slow motion video feature. And because CM 10's camera is really glitchy
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chris82o said:
I love being on stock dont get me wrong I love the clean roms and root access but since I am coming as a long term iPhone user stock feels amazing and very open to be able to do so much personalizing to the device without having to get into roms is great but I do hate the boatware lol
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And it seems that there's no"." key on your iphone.

rayoubi said:
i'm curious if anyone here on XDA prefers being on stock. How come? You don't like roms? root? Just curious on what people that love to stay on stock.
Thanks.
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On many phones I have stayed on stock for stability and feature set. In many cases when you go to another rom (especially AOSP) you lose TW features, S-Pen, etc... and in many cases I find not everything is 100%
That said the Note II development is fantastic. Many of the TW based roms give you everything you get with stock, but with more. AOSP you lose the TW feature set but it is amazingly stable and fast with a whole lot of other features.
With my S3 I could not find a single rom that I did not have problems on, but with the Note II I have a harder time deciding WHICH rom to use :good:

chris82o said:
I love being on stock dont get me wrong I love the clean roms and root access but since I am coming as a long term iPhone user stock feels amazing and very open to be able to do so much personalizing to the device without having to get into roms is great but I do hate the boatware lol
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So then flash the stock international rom from miscom like a lot of us have.... Stock experience with No bs att bloat
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C.Flat said:
I'm staying in stock to keep the slow motion video feature. And because CM 10's camera is really glitchy
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I agree with this guy. Even with my acer liquid mt when I rooted it and used the leaked gingerbread rom for it, the camera (which i use a lot got messed up and would over expose the pictures to white messes of garbage) and I noticed that after switching back to the normal stock rom with root, the camera would screw the video with red green and blue lines...gross I know...
And plus, just like my old ipod touch 2g (which doesnt work cuz the battery is dead. big surprise CRapple) it looked as normal as it should, but behind the curtain, the device was screaming at me to stop, every little tweak, hack, or anything I could do to the device. (Except install android on it because the project cut off 2Gs)
So what im saying is, its more fun to screw with the stock app.
Dont like the boatware?
Download a root app uninstaller.
Dont like anything about most devices?
Someone else doesnt like it either, and theyre smarter than you and figured out how to change that.
Root all stock roms.
Maybe one day, they will have an option to come rooted and unlocked.
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For me 1st time I'm on stock. I like it and don't see a need for change I did root it. On my SGS the minute I go it I put a rom on it.
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I did until I discovered PA battery life. Been 5 hours of fair use, mostly as a media player, connected to data. Battery is still at 84%
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I hate stock as soon as another ROM handles all I want. I have a toddler. I need camera function. As soon as cm10 fixed it a week ago. I will never go back to stock again. Only 2 features I miss are page buddy and mhl. Page buddy probably can be modded in though
I love the new features they keep adding instead of stock. And I love a 150meg download instead of 700meg
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The lack of mhl in cm or aokp keep me on stock based roms
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The same day I purchased my Note 2, I had it rooted and has TWRP installed on it. Day 2 I was flashing roms. I guess I just really like to tinker with my phones, because where was nothing wrong with stock!

C.FLAT, "I'm staying in stock to keep the slow motion video feature. And because CM 10's camera is really glitchy"
If you are that concerned with the camera features working why not flash a ROM like Scrosler's CLEAN ROM ATT SE. It made from ATT base. Completely stock without the bloatware. Everything works perfectly and you are not at the mercy of your carrier to recieve OTA's instead your at Scroslers lol. But seriously, I would much rather get/wait for updates from a DEV here on XDA (Where I can talk directly to the DEV and or people in the thread also using the ROM) instead of waiting for carriers to take forever and you can't directly talk to the team of people who made the Official ROM . So for me if you want stock look and feel with no bloatware and is more customizable than actual stock I would go with a ROM based or made from complete stock base. Just my 2 cents

Slow motion on jedi
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stock miscom
skifreek said:
So then flash the stock international rom from miscom like a lot of us have.... Stock experience with No bs att bloat
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besides the excellent support miscom. Thanks miscom

I'm on stock cause I got no reason to be otherwise. Everything works as intended, and the so-called "bloatware" is in reality a complete non-issue.