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What are the Biggest advantages of Rooting SGS2 at this point??

So I am coming from a rooted and heavily flashed Sensation, we had several ROM's, and I tried them all. I know this phone is very new and the Devs haven't even begun with this device, but so far I don't see really any reason to root? Are there at least any cool tweaks I am missing? Again, I know it's all coming, but am I missing something super cool we can do on a rooted SGS2 yet? I want to join the fun, but I don't see much to get excited about (yet).

The roms the are out are well worth rooting for
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Couldn't agree more. Just the ability to back up your device should be reason enough alone to root. A better question is why would you not!
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even ignoring the fact of ROMs
you will need root, to gain full access to Titanium Backup, which is the #1 must have tool for migrating from one phone to another phone

right now i would say the roms, the beastrom i got is amazing, better battery life and data speeds!

The main reason I rooted was to get rid of all the bloat.
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AllGamer said:
even ignoring the fact of ROMs
you will need root, to gain full access to Titanium Backup, which is the #1 must have tool for migrating from one phone to another phone
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And again, why wouldn't you root? All it does is give you complete access to your phone. Whether you use that access or not is up to you, but there's no good reason not to have it. You can always unroot if you need to return your phone and use your warranty.

Rooting and installing the EaglesBlood ROM has more than doubled my battery life.
If that's not enough reason to root, I don't know what is.

What about the portable hot spot without fee thats a big one!

Replacing the standard Gmail apk (the one found on the market) and putting this modified apk (found here):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16263121
In its place, which releases the power of Gmail unread count Widgets and launchers.
You need root to manually replace the Gmail.apk within /system/app/ folder with the modified version.
Oh yeah... also the ability to nandroid backup.
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Honestly, I'd really love to root and what not, but I really effed up my Continuum on Verizon using ODIN so I'm real scared to use it again. I wish you could just use Gingerbreak or something easy like that.
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I rooted to remove bloat and to install TB, adblocker, terminal and cwm. I'm still on stock and don't see a need to flash roms now cuz everything working great. I'm holding out for ICS which you will need root for if you want it early.
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That seems like a good idea. I honestly can't complain with stock right now and would like to wait until something besides an ODIN root comes out.
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sportsinger75 said:
Honestly, I'd really love to root and what not, but I really effed up my Continuum on Verizon using ODIN so I'm real scared to use it again. I wish you could just use Gingerbreak or something easy like that.
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sportsinger75 said:
That seems like a good idea. I honestly can't complain with stock right now and would like to wait until something besides an ODIN root comes out.
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Seemed pretty easy and straightforward to me. Much easier than rooting my G2. Had a little hiccup trying to put it in d/l mode since this was my first time using odin, but figured it out fast enough. Just turn off your phone, plug in your usb, and then turn it on while holding vol up and vol down at the same time. Should go into d/l mode instead of recovery.

sofakingstoked said:
so i am coming from a rooted and heavily flashed sensation, we had several rom's, and i tried them all. I know this phone is very new and the devs haven't even begun with this device, but so far i don't see really any reason to root? Are there at least any cool tweaks i am missing? Again, i know it's all coming, but am i missing something super cool we can do on a rooted sgs2 yet? I want to join the fun, but i don't see much to get excited about (yet).
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after rooting it you can delete the thethering manager app.apk from the sytem/app so you can use your built in wifi thether for free yo.

I would do it for the ability to fully use titanium backup and to have full access to your phone.
I did it for those reasons alone. Im not a rom jumper and I stick to stock and unless a rom way different than stock comes, I'll stick to stock.
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so you can use your built in wifi thether for free yo.
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Of all the T-Mobile phones I've used this seems to have the most bloatware....rooting definitely helps getting rid of all of it. Dev support also seems to be growing. I have the latest EaglesBlood Rom and could not be happier. now getting better battery life and overall greater speed and smoothness.
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I have a Tmobile Samsung Galaxy S2 and a mac so as of now I can't really root the phone because its windows only for the root. I'm waiting for a mac abled one click root.
Other then that, this is my first Android (came from the iPhone 4) and wanted to know how do you guys decide which rom to use? Also, how hard is it to flash to different roms? I can do it after I root correct and if I do change rom's I would not have to reroot would I?
Thanks

le14 said:
I have a Tmobile Samsung Galaxy S2 and a mac so as of now I can't really root the phone because its windows only for the root. I'm waiting for a mac abled one click root.
Other then that, this is my first Android (came from the iPhone 4) and wanted to know how do you guys decide which rom to use? Also, how hard is it to flash to different roms? I can do it after I root correct and if I do change rom's I would not have to reroot would I?
Thanks
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once rooted it's fairly simple with CWR manager
the alternative to Odin is to use Heimdall, which is cross platform compatible

AllGamer said:
once rooted it's fairly simple with CWR manager
the alternative to Odin is to use Heimdall, which is cross platform compatible
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would there be a tutorial for rooting with a mac using heimdall? this would be my first time rooting an android and I don't want to brick anything.

[Q] Root my 2.3.6 or wait for ICS upgrade?

Hi all,
I'm still on the fence about rooting my t989 and so I'm looking for advice. I got the 2.3.6 update and I really want ICS but I'm willing to wait for it though. Also, I'm pretty conservative when it comes to risks such as rooting due to warranties, bricking, and losing functionality. However, I'll be traveling for a while and tethering could be handy and titanium backup has always been attractive to me. But what happens if ICS comes out? I think I loose root if I update OTA, but I should be able to get root again. I'm not a big fan of real 3rd party software because I don't want to work with bugs so if I got a new ROM, it may only be CM9 or similar as reliability is important to me. And then I don't want a new ROM if it doesn't use the Linux Kernel since Ubuntu is developing that OS to share that Kernel. Do I even need a new ROM? I think touchwiz is fine. Pages of apps are better than scrolling through them IMO.
So any suggestions on what I should do? Thanks!

Root it unless you plan on running stock ics. Chances are the ota will be releases here before it hits your phone we have a couple really nice ics roms right now. Don't know what your waiting for lol
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If you want to root, root. More than likely you will be able to download the stock ICS rom from here before you get it on your phone. As soon as one person gets it, our awesome devs will be on it like flys on ****, and we will see a stock rooted rom almost immediately.
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Root
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Towle said:
If you want to root, root. More than likely you will be able to download the stock ICS rom from here before you get it on your phone. As soon as one person gets it, our awesome devs will be on it like flys on ****, and we will see a stock rooted rom almost immediately.
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I was rooted however I dropped my phone last week and had to get a replacement now I am just gonna wait for ICS to drop...
It's all good with me, at least I have my wifi calling and no delay or echo while taking my minibath.

Rooted mine several weeks ago. Tired of waiting for official ICS from T-Mobile and Samsung. Once the official version is released, the devs will have a rooted version available for flashing so you won't have to un-root.
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Just root, you won't be disappointed. Plus you can always go back if you want.
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This isn't iOS. Don't think about and root it
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Just root it you will be happier plus its just as easy to unroot as it is to root
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Was on 2.3.6 rooted for months waiting on ICS update. We finally got a rom yesterday that doesn't have any call echo problems, or really any problems. Flashed darkside's newest 4.0.4 rom this morning and have had smooth sailing all day.
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iLeopard said:
This isn't iOS. Don't think about and root it
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+1. Its easy to unroot and return to stock if need be. Till then we have fully functional daily driver ics roms already so what are you waiting for? Take control of your device. That's why you went with android over iOS and wp7 in the first place anyway isnt it?
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Thanks for your suggestions. I'll go ahead and root. I really want titanium backup. Is this the best thread for a HOW TO root?: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1514434

bripod said:
Thanks for your suggestions. I'll go ahead and root. I really want titanium backup. Is this the best thread for a HOW TO root?: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1514434
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This is the thread i followed to root. Very simple instructions. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1311194 but yeah same method one has pics one dont.
Edit: Unrooting the phone is the same process as rooting except you flash a different file to the phone.

My suggestion is to root. But don't sweat CM9 it is pretty buggy right now because its still beta and isn't officially supported on our phones. But there are plenty of stable ICS roms now and even if u don't care for the few bugs that some may have, there are also some amazing GB rooms out there too.
Just my 2 cents.
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But I don't NEED a new ROM do I? Doesn't it just change the GUI? Basically I just want tethering and freeze bloat apps and ads, but a battery life boost would be great. How much does it change under the hood to expand capability? From what I can tell, root apps are the only thing that expands features.

Root and install a rom... If you think your phone is good, with a rom you'll see your phone is just great

Sorry for all my questions but is the kernel held within the ROM? And whatever ROM I choose, I can just flash to different just like that huh? Like it's an easy process?
My brother has Juggernaut, it didn't look any different than touchwiz except for flashy little things like the screen turn off and stuff. I just need function, not flash.

Some roms com with their own kernels, like TDJ's ones... You can flash a rom and then change it for another, but you have to wipe your data for a clean install (there's always the option to backup your info)

Questions go in the Q&A section

[Q] Which Rom!!!!!!!!

Hello, I need some opinion to flash a rom on my sisters verizon nexus. The nexus use to be mine however do to work i had to switch to att. Right now i have the one x running aokp 10-12 nighties 4.1.2 its running awesome, what i want to know is which rom is a good daily driver that doesn't have many bugs. I have read trough a couple of roms however there are so many, and she hates when i install a new rom, last time i mess with her phone was back in july. I just need a few suggestions on some great daily drivers.... thx in advance

Stock.
lol
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personally i would go for ParanoidAndroid 2.18 (very stable) with either stock kernel which it comes with or trinity stable kernel. set it up with PAPrefs to Tablet (mid) and send her on her way. :fingers-crossed:

jimmyco2008 said:
Stock.
lol
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ELL O ELL you catch on quick
good day.

ROM for your sister?
STOCK.
Good lord don't flash a custom ROM on someone else's phone. If they wanna flash their own phone after learning about it then that's fine, but don't do it for them. Leave that **** stock.

for sister - Stock.
for myself - PA

Don't flash anything for anyone. Until they actually understand this whole rooting and flashing. People brick their phone BECAUSE they don't know what they're doing. Hack, I don't even recommend you to root her phone. Tell her to learn how root works and risks at least.
Swyped on my Galaxy Nexus running AOKP with Franco Kernel

Flash All of them
but seriously almost all the roms are fantastic. I personally use aokp and im contemplating trying out minco, but each rom has its differences. Decide what features in a rom are important to you. look through the OP's of each rom and decide which fits your needs the best.
I agree with those above, dont flash a rom on some one elses phone cuz inevitably they will run into some issue and blame you for "breaking" their phone.

Another ROM thread? Really?
And btw, we are back at calling them "sisters", like 40 years ago?
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how to get multiview update?

just got a note 2
it's rooted and so I can't do OTA updates because it has modified software
is there a way I can get the update so I can use multiview/multiwindow on my phone without flashing a rom?

viper98 said:
just got a note 2
it's rooted and so I can't do OTA updates because it has modified software
is there a way I can get the update so I can use multiview/multiwindow on my phone without flashing a rom?
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I don't believe being rooted by itself will prevent OTA updates. The update will most likely make you rooted again though. But their is no update available yet, and may not be for months.
I would install a custom recovery and flash a custom ROM. That way you get a better multi-window (that works with all apps), no bloat and improved battery life.

+1 for rooting & custom/ported rom. It's not as scary as it seems as long as you study and READ. Check & doublecheck that is compatible with i317. The are countless advantages to it over keeping stock (if you don't like what stock has to offer) PLUS (here is the best part) you can brag that you "got rid of that att s*$&" and hacked your phone....People are usually pretty impressed. Lol) Seriously though just take the leap. You'll be glad you did!
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I'm not really afraid of putting a custom rom I had done it to my S3
but it's too hard to make a choice lol

viper98 said:
I'm not really afraid of putting a custom rom I had done it to my S3
but it's too hard to make a choice lol
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Nandroid and try em all haha all the kids are doing it
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cjsspape said:
Nandroid and try em all haha all the kids are doing it
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Haaaaaaahaaaaaahaaaaa
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Install Clean ROM. Everything works great including multi-view

just new to android..... i would like to know what is the different between the clean rom and the other roms, like Jedi and hybirds?

I have only tried Jedi x6 rom. Don't want to try any other rom because this one seems to cover all the bases and is rock solid. I've heard nothing but good things about clean rom though so probably can't go wrong with either. Jedi is sick though. And for what it's worth it is also pretty clean. If someone handed me this phone I would not know there was a rom on it other than the upgrades, I.e., multi window, extra toggles, etc. Good luck with whatever you choose. By the way everyone on Jedi thread is extremely helpful and patient.
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Thanks topshelf95. I am new here, that's why I ca'tn post in the developer forum for any questions about X6. I am using X3.3 now and tried X6 but converted back to X3.3 cos I can't install any other language for handwriting for X6. If I know how to fix that, I will switch to X6 for sure.

Who prefers to stay on STOCK?????

i'm curious if anyone here on XDA prefers being on stock. How come? You don't like roms? root? Just curious on what people that love to stay on stock.
Thanks.

This thread belongs in the Q&A forum, not the General forum. (Also, your '?' key seems to be stuck.)

Gary02468 your number lock seems to be stuck. Qt pie.

I am kinda in that boat
I just got my note2 and have since flashed recovery / and clean rom however I tend to like sticking stockish till I know the water temp so to speak. I tried to just do the root with out changing the counter but OTA's killed my root. Hence the twrp and clean rom...
I just cant win... heh.

rayoubi said:
i'm curious if anyone here on XDA prefers being on stock. How come? You don't like roms? root? Just curious on what people that love to stay on stock.
Thanks.
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I love being on stock dont get me wrong I love the clean roms and root access but since I am coming as a long term iPhone user stock feels amazing and very open to be able to do so much personalizing to the device without having to get into roms is great but I do hate the boatware lol
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Nice to see an iphone user do the swap
I gotta say its awesome to see an iPhone user move on over.

I'm staying in stock to keep the slow motion video feature. And because CM 10's camera is really glitchy
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chris82o said:
I love being on stock dont get me wrong I love the clean roms and root access but since I am coming as a long term iPhone user stock feels amazing and very open to be able to do so much personalizing to the device without having to get into roms is great but I do hate the boatware lol
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And it seems that there's no"." key on your iphone.

rayoubi said:
i'm curious if anyone here on XDA prefers being on stock. How come? You don't like roms? root? Just curious on what people that love to stay on stock.
Thanks.
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On many phones I have stayed on stock for stability and feature set. In many cases when you go to another rom (especially AOSP) you lose TW features, S-Pen, etc... and in many cases I find not everything is 100%
That said the Note II development is fantastic. Many of the TW based roms give you everything you get with stock, but with more. AOSP you lose the TW feature set but it is amazingly stable and fast with a whole lot of other features.
With my S3 I could not find a single rom that I did not have problems on, but with the Note II I have a harder time deciding WHICH rom to use :good:

chris82o said:
I love being on stock dont get me wrong I love the clean roms and root access but since I am coming as a long term iPhone user stock feels amazing and very open to be able to do so much personalizing to the device without having to get into roms is great but I do hate the boatware lol
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So then flash the stock international rom from miscom like a lot of us have.... Stock experience with No bs att bloat
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C.Flat said:
I'm staying in stock to keep the slow motion video feature. And because CM 10's camera is really glitchy
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I agree with this guy. Even with my acer liquid mt when I rooted it and used the leaked gingerbread rom for it, the camera (which i use a lot got messed up and would over expose the pictures to white messes of garbage) and I noticed that after switching back to the normal stock rom with root, the camera would screw the video with red green and blue lines...gross I know...
And plus, just like my old ipod touch 2g (which doesnt work cuz the battery is dead. big surprise CRapple) it looked as normal as it should, but behind the curtain, the device was screaming at me to stop, every little tweak, hack, or anything I could do to the device. (Except install android on it because the project cut off 2Gs)
So what im saying is, its more fun to screw with the stock app.
Dont like the boatware?
Download a root app uninstaller.
Dont like anything about most devices?
Someone else doesnt like it either, and theyre smarter than you and figured out how to change that.
Root all stock roms.
Maybe one day, they will have an option to come rooted and unlocked.
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For me 1st time I'm on stock. I like it and don't see a need for change I did root it. On my SGS the minute I go it I put a rom on it.
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I did until I discovered PA battery life. Been 5 hours of fair use, mostly as a media player, connected to data. Battery is still at 84%
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I hate stock as soon as another ROM handles all I want. I have a toddler. I need camera function. As soon as cm10 fixed it a week ago. I will never go back to stock again. Only 2 features I miss are page buddy and mhl. Page buddy probably can be modded in though
I love the new features they keep adding instead of stock. And I love a 150meg download instead of 700meg
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The lack of mhl in cm or aokp keep me on stock based roms
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The same day I purchased my Note 2, I had it rooted and has TWRP installed on it. Day 2 I was flashing roms. I guess I just really like to tinker with my phones, because where was nothing wrong with stock!

C.FLAT, "I'm staying in stock to keep the slow motion video feature. And because CM 10's camera is really glitchy"
If you are that concerned with the camera features working why not flash a ROM like Scrosler's CLEAN ROM ATT SE. It made from ATT base. Completely stock without the bloatware. Everything works perfectly and you are not at the mercy of your carrier to recieve OTA's instead your at Scroslers lol. But seriously, I would much rather get/wait for updates from a DEV here on XDA (Where I can talk directly to the DEV and or people in the thread also using the ROM) instead of waiting for carriers to take forever and you can't directly talk to the team of people who made the Official ROM . So for me if you want stock look and feel with no bloatware and is more customizable than actual stock I would go with a ROM based or made from complete stock base. Just my 2 cents

Slow motion on jedi
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stock miscom
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So then flash the stock international rom from miscom like a lot of us have.... Stock experience with No bs att bloat
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besides the excellent support miscom. Thanks miscom

I'm on stock cause I got no reason to be otherwise. Everything works as intended, and the so-called "bloatware" is in reality a complete non-issue.