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Hi all,
I'm still on the fence about rooting my t989 and so I'm looking for advice. I got the 2.3.6 update and I really want ICS but I'm willing to wait for it though. Also, I'm pretty conservative when it comes to risks such as rooting due to warranties, bricking, and losing functionality. However, I'll be traveling for a while and tethering could be handy and titanium backup has always been attractive to me. But what happens if ICS comes out? I think I loose root if I update OTA, but I should be able to get root again. I'm not a big fan of real 3rd party software because I don't want to work with bugs so if I got a new ROM, it may only be CM9 or similar as reliability is important to me. And then I don't want a new ROM if it doesn't use the Linux Kernel since Ubuntu is developing that OS to share that Kernel. Do I even need a new ROM? I think touchwiz is fine. Pages of apps are better than scrolling through them IMO.
So any suggestions on what I should do? Thanks!
Root it unless you plan on running stock ics. Chances are the ota will be releases here before it hits your phone we have a couple really nice ics roms right now. Don't know what your waiting for lol
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If you want to root, root. More than likely you will be able to download the stock ICS rom from here before you get it on your phone. As soon as one person gets it, our awesome devs will be on it like flys on ****, and we will see a stock rooted rom almost immediately.
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Towle said:
If you want to root, root. More than likely you will be able to download the stock ICS rom from here before you get it on your phone. As soon as one person gets it, our awesome devs will be on it like flys on ****, and we will see a stock rooted rom almost immediately.
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I was rooted however I dropped my phone last week and had to get a replacement now I am just gonna wait for ICS to drop...
It's all good with me, at least I have my wifi calling and no delay or echo while taking my minibath.
Rooted mine several weeks ago. Tired of waiting for official ICS from T-Mobile and Samsung. Once the official version is released, the devs will have a rooted version available for flashing so you won't have to un-root.
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Just root, you won't be disappointed. Plus you can always go back if you want.
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This isn't iOS. Don't think about and root it
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Just root it you will be happier plus its just as easy to unroot as it is to root
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Was on 2.3.6 rooted for months waiting on ICS update. We finally got a rom yesterday that doesn't have any call echo problems, or really any problems. Flashed darkside's newest 4.0.4 rom this morning and have had smooth sailing all day.
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iLeopard said:
This isn't iOS. Don't think about and root it
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+1. Its easy to unroot and return to stock if need be. Till then we have fully functional daily driver ics roms already so what are you waiting for? Take control of your device. That's why you went with android over iOS and wp7 in the first place anyway isnt it?
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Thanks for your suggestions. I'll go ahead and root. I really want titanium backup. Is this the best thread for a HOW TO root?: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1514434
bripod said:
Thanks for your suggestions. I'll go ahead and root. I really want titanium backup. Is this the best thread for a HOW TO root?: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1514434
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This is the thread i followed to root. Very simple instructions. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1311194 but yeah same method one has pics one dont.
Edit: Unrooting the phone is the same process as rooting except you flash a different file to the phone.
My suggestion is to root. But don't sweat CM9 it is pretty buggy right now because its still beta and isn't officially supported on our phones. But there are plenty of stable ICS roms now and even if u don't care for the few bugs that some may have, there are also some amazing GB rooms out there too.
Just my 2 cents.
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But I don't NEED a new ROM do I? Doesn't it just change the GUI? Basically I just want tethering and freeze bloat apps and ads, but a battery life boost would be great. How much does it change under the hood to expand capability? From what I can tell, root apps are the only thing that expands features.
Root and install a rom... If you think your phone is good, with a rom you'll see your phone is just great
Sorry for all my questions but is the kernel held within the ROM? And whatever ROM I choose, I can just flash to different just like that huh? Like it's an easy process?
My brother has Juggernaut, it didn't look any different than touchwiz except for flashy little things like the screen turn off and stuff. I just need function, not flash.
Some roms com with their own kernels, like TDJ's ones... You can flash a rom and then change it for another, but you have to wipe your data for a clean install (there's always the option to backup your info)
Questions go in the Q&A section
So my Gnex should be coming in the mail tonight im curious what is the most stable and most customizable rom availible...
I have a skyrocket and im using cm9 rc2 im sure she will be just fine with that but I was curious if anyone specifically likes anything other than cm, I have never used aokp and I hear there is a lot of custom features but I have also heard theres just too many?
Really I'm curious of the most STABLE/FAST/RESPONSIVE/ and purple* lol that last one im sure I can just find a theme
Thanks,
stock.
Stock rooted
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stock. put some flowers in the background or something
Stock for now, but another aftermarket ROM that I gave to my wife for her HTC Incredible is MIUI. Look for a previous build though (GB), the new ones are utter sh*t IMHO. I've had a lot of fun with MIUI back in the days of FroYo.
Stock rooted jb its great.
If she's a "below average" user.
Then stock JB.
If she wants to have fun with phone and is actually able to remember things about the phone, CM9/10
If she wants to get all complicated, then AOKP.
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Bleh stock... I suppose that's not a bad option on aosp the words stock on her old phones are terrible because of touchwiz and Moto blur
Cm9 is pretty stable though i assume. Any bugs?
CM9 Skyrocket
Stock anything, rooted for AdAway but that's probably about it. I've had too many experiences with non-power users doing that angry thing people do when they don't comprehend technology.
MIUI. Simple, clean, extremely customizable.
My gf doesn't even want to try a new rom, she really seem to enjoy it.
BUT, and this is major point, my gf actually isn't that much into technology, so i assume she just wants the cutest and most user friendly experience.
droid512 said:
So my Gnex should be coming in the mail tonight im curious what is the most stable and most customizable rom availible...
I have a skyrocket and im using cm9 rc2 im sure she will be just fine with that but I was curious if anyone specifically likes anything other than cm, I have never used aokp and I hear there is a lot of custom features but I have also heard theres just too many?
Really I'm curious of the most STABLE/FAST/RESPONSIVE/ and purple* lol that last one im sure I can just find a theme
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ROM for girlfriend? STOCK.
Stock, maybe I'll get thanked by this guy now ^
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Leave her stock. That way she can't blame you when something goes wrong. I mean, she will anyways, but don't give her an excuse. And forget about those other phones, stock Nexus is pure awesomeness.
Op I'm with everyone else. Stock, rooted with ad away installed. Therefore she will have no worries and you don't have to do explaining of ROMS, kernels, recoveries, etc.
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I'd put CM10 nightlies on it and secretly flash updates every couple days. She deserves the latest n greatest!
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idk, i'm a girl & have been running aokp since i've had my phone... however, i am currently running jelly bean & don't have any complaints...
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idk, i'm a girl & have been running aokp since i've had my phone... however, i am currently running jelly bean & don't have any complaints...
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More power to ya! I know hardly any women who even know what rooting is to begin with. The wife has watched me root more than 20 or so different phones I've run through for the last 3 yrs and STILL asks me questions when I explain it. I have been asked to root about 4 or 5 of hers on occasion though...thinking of pimpin out her S3 for her though.
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cbutt said:
idk, i'm a girl & have been running aokp since i've had my phone... however, i am currently running jelly bean & don't have any complaints...
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It's not that girls can't use ROMs, its that he's talking about rooting and ROMing her phone when she has no idea what's going on. I'm all about girls being into hacking phones, but only if they do it themselves!
I don't condone rooting and ROMing someone else's phone unless they know what's going on and could do it themselves.
I guess I'd just leave it stock and make her a custom Fashion Barbie Nerdgirl of the Undead theme or something, for brownie points.
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It's not that girls can't use ROMs, its that he's talking about rooting and ROMing her phone when she has no idea what's going on. I'm all about girls being into hacking phones, but only if they do it themselves!
I don't condone rooting and ROMing someone else's phone unless they know what's going on and could do it themselves.
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True. I recently passed my sgs2 on to my dad to use on tmo prepaid & I put that thing back to stock, rooted rom for him.
However, on aokp, I have no data drops, GPS issues, any problems etc... so I don't really see an issue with that.
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I have owned three Android devices before getting my GNex. Each of those three devices were rooted and rom-ed within the first one month. I have had my GNex for almost two months now on stock jellybean, no root or custom recovery. The flasher within me is itching to flash something new. The pragmatic within me finds no justification for flashing. The other devices had some issue or the other; everything works fine on stock jb on the Gnex. I am trying my best to side with the pragmatic.
Question to the community- I know what I gain from flashing a custom rom ( customizability, overclocking,etc) . Other than the warranty, what do I lose by moving away from the stock rom?
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viskon said:
I have owned three Android devices before getting my GNex. Each of those three devices were rooted and rom-ed within the first one month. I have had my GNex for almost two months now on stock jellybean, no root or custom recovery. The flasher within me is itching to flash something new. The pragmatic within me finds no justification for flashing. The other devices had some issue or the other; everything works fine on stock jb on the Gnex. I am trying my best to side with the pragmatic.
Question to the community- I know what I gain from flashing a custom rom ( customizability, overclocking,etc) . Other than the warranty, what do I lose by moving away from the stock rom?
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Well, I for one won't be flashing any ROMs (at least for several months) once my GNEX arrives tomorrow. Whenever I had an unsolvable issue which was with the ROM I chose and would ask for help, I'd get the most cynical responses. "That's what you signed up for" seems to be the common theme. It's like people enjoy being in constant beta tester mode, even when they are supposedly running the stable build of a ROM. The only reason I would flash a ROM is if the default JB build the phone came with was horribly broken. Overclocking on something like a phone is a bit excessive, especially for something that is already a powerhouse and can run the most intense games available for it with relative ease.
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I have owned three Android devices before getting my GNex. Each of those three devices were rooted and rom-ed within the first one month. I have had my GNex for almost two months now on stock jellybean, no root or custom recovery. The flasher within me is itching to flash something new. The pragmatic within me finds no justification for flashing. The other devices had some issue or the other; everything works fine on stock jb on the Gnex. I am trying my best to side with the pragmatic.
Question to the community- I know what I gain from flashing a custom rom ( customizability, overclocking,etc) . Other than the warranty, what do I lose by moving away from the stock rom?
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You don't lose the warranty if you know what you're doing........
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Other than the warranty, what do I lose by moving away from the stock rom?
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You don't lose anything, but you gain a lot of nifty features.
I recommend you always try stock out for a bit before trying anything else. Stock 4.1.1 is damn good.
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martonikaj said:
I recommend you always try stock out for a bit before trying anything else. Stock 4.1.1 is damn good.
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Stock is great but I got tired of my phone giving me 15 hours of battery life on avg so I rooted to get a kernel
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Stock is great but I got tired of my phone giving me 15 hours of battery life on avg so I rooted to get a kernel
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Interesting. That is what i currently get. And did flashing a new kernel help?
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I tried several highly regarded JB roms (ParanoidAndroid, CM10 nightly, the varieties of AndroidME), but keep coming back to stock + Nova Launcher. Don't even need to (re-)root for that. Just a great combination that you can rely on.
But when I get that itch, I play around with ParanoidAndroid for a few days here and there. A really interesting rom, which I'm sure you'll hear a lot about.
I was coming from a sgs2 that was on a custom ROM and surprisingly I'm happy with stock 4.1 and see no need to flash a custom ROM. Maybe just a kernel to get better battery life even tho it lasts me all day with about 4 hours of screen on time so I can't really complain.
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I've been rooting, modding, and even custom ROM building since my Samsung Moment days and ever since. Since I got my Galaxy Nexus on Sprint, however, all I've done is flash a completely pure AOSP stock build of 4.1.1. With this device I have no desire other than to be running the most current Android source. Everything just works, and works well. I have no need for flashy features. Jelly Bean already has every feature I need.
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I love stock vanilla Android. All my other phones, I'd root and install Cyanogenmod asap. I'd always use the modified factory roms on offer as well, because Cyanogenmod often didn't work that well in the early days of a new device or Android version.
On the nexus I don't really need to flash, but I still use Cyanogenmod 10 anyway for the sole reason the power control toggles in the status bar are very handy.
Either way, only a nexus device can offer such high quality aosp based roms. I say have fun trying a few. Yes there are still issues sometimes but it's nothing like what I've experienced in other phones.
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Definitely Cusome
Stock is always nice for a while, but the reason you get a nexus is to be able to have fun and do things that others can't :good:
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Stock is always nice for a while, but the reason you get a nexus is to be able to have fun and do things that others can't :good:
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One of the reasons. For me it's just to have the latest AOSP software, and for me that is enough. The Nexus fills both plates very well.
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The reason I got a nexus was because I hated all the touchwiz/sense stuff and the pre-installed carrier garbage... thus removing my reason to root my phone (not that I don't like to tinker, but 18 credit hours leaves little time).
The only reason I ended up rooting was for PGM so I dont destroy my power button in 3 months like all my previous phones, and for the widgets to show up in apex/nova. Aside from those, I run a totally stock system...
On an unrelated note, sooooo many iphone owners in my classes ask me how to wake their iphone by swiping... i love telling them that they cant
Same boat. GSM stock ROM. Itching BUT I don't want to lock the phones secure element because Google wallet is pretty cool.
Night features are nice but not worth losing wallet over
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CyberpunkDad said:
Same boat. GSM stock ROM. Itching BUT I don't want to lock the phones secure element because Google wallet is pretty cool.
Night features are nice but not worth losing wallet over
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With the GSM Galaxy Nexus, you can unlock, root, find a custom ROM and flash it, then find the Google Wallet APK and install it. It'll say "unsupported device" because Google wants to warn you about "rooting," but it'll activate and work .
I'm using NexusHD 4.3 with GApps and Google Wallet.
With Galaxy Nexus and Jelly Bean there is no reason to try custom ROMS. Only bug a can find is 2.4GHZ wireless.
I've tried to stay as close to JB stock as possible, flashing a vanilla deodexed build of JB and just a couple of mods (battery percent and louder speaker sound) that increase everyday functionality for me and a kernel change because it increases battery life and on demand performance by a practically useful margin. Everyone's personal preferences I suppose but that's the great thing about a nexus device, it can please different tastes/uses very well.
Gnex is so boring ...there is no compelling reason to flash .. everything works just great without any tweaking
Life with galaxy s was more fun...flashing every nightly..dealing with bugs..spending hours on xda forum to find the fixes/work arounds / tricks to improve battery life..I miss all these.
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Well I will eat crow here now. But in a matter of a few hours I have managed to figure out (with a bit of help just for the unrooting part) I unrooted my phone and was back on stock sprint JB for a short time and compared to the custom codename android, it sucked!!! It was slow and laggy. I know I caused a fit here but hey, I learned the difference between stock and custom and also learned how to root, unroot and flash new roms using my mac. I wanted to let you guys know even though you think I am a biotch, I learned a lot from you here and a few others. It is friggin hilarious to me that I pitched a fit to go back to stock on sprint and here I am back to codename android and now I know how to update and flash roms. Go figure.
Holy ****! You manage to do what I been trying to do? Can you let me know how instead of giving me a link to what it seems for a noon Chinese....
Step by step...ppleaseee
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I've tried all the custom Roms, and STILL prefer stock. For me, stock is silky smooth and absolutely the most stable in every tiny crevasse. I'm staying stock till CM10 releases a final build.
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I've tried all the custom Roms, and STILL prefer stock. For me, stock is silky smooth and absolutely the most stable in every tiny crevasse. I'm staying stock till CM10 releases a final build.
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stock was so slow and laggy compared to custom rom. The custome rom works much better and I can do so much more with it.
colomob, I am more than willing to help but is a nexus 7 a tablet, I just got this phone and it is my first Droid so if someone here could let me know if everything would be the same to help him update. The other issue is I just learned all this in the last few days and I have a mac so I have no idea how to do any of this on pc but that is where all the tutorials are based on, using pc so should I assume you also have a mac?
No no no... I'm posting this from a nexus 7. I have a galaxy nexus. That's my problem. Not the nexus 7. Thanks in advance.
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OP, Ur like me. A stubborn SOB thinking Feature packed is the BOSS.
One day u'll appreciate the Vanillaness of stock. Plus Nova fills in the GAPS that missing.
One day....
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What about rooting? How do we feel about that? Is that a good idea?
I have root, unlocked boot loader . I wanna start clean again. Stock.
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Long story short I've cone from a history of using the galaxy s phones so I have some experience with rooting and using adb and such. I have mostly stayed stock and unrooted for the reason that I use my phone daily for important phone calls, emails, apps and text messages. Basically I use the crap out of my phone and what I don't want is to root and flash a ROM to be continuously flashing and wiping my important data ever time or losing pictures. I have been following the aokp and pa threads and would like to know, in your honest opinions, what ROM will allow me the luxury of being bug less as or better than stock where I don't have to do any extra coding to get it working or be missing features or deal with broken functions? I am also curious about tablet mode as why I mentioned aokp and pa. Be honest about the bugs and don't just post a one line like " aokp ftw" as it doesn't help me. Also don't post " well just flash them all" I have too much going on and don't want to spend all day flashing ROM after ROM. Thanks.
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I'd say stay with stock rooted (which i currently on) , nothing wrong with that.
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In my experience of flashing ROMs I have learned that there is no such thing as a "Bugless ROM". Since Jellybean is still new, there are no stable Roms. But I could say that there are Roms out there that updates frequently in case they add new features or fix bugs. I have used ParanoidAndroid for it's Tablet mode which isn't too bad. Viewing emails from Gmail wasn't bad. It seemed easier viewing the emails because it shows different categories, like the "Trash, Spam. Sent, Draft, Important" on the right side. I didn't really like Tablet and Phablet mode while viewing the PlayStore, reason is because when looking for apps to download, it doesn't show the full Star ratings (meaning you will see 1 or two stars rating, and to see the full stars you would have to click on the actual app to see the ratings.).
I had a great experience with ParanoidAndroid but you have to keep in mind that there isn't a bugless rom and that you need to frequently update. If your still deciding, just check for the features that you like most.
For maximum stability, stay stock. Rooting won't affect stability.
If you want the extra features of a custom rom combined with good enough stability for daily use, flash stable / milestone releases.
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What I'm doing personally, is staying stock OTA rooted, until CM10 reaches stable build, then flashing CM10 stable, and being done with flashing.
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stock..but currently i am using codenameandroid.lots of customization with absolutely no problem.
No bugs for me on BAMF.
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I'd say stay with stock rooted (which i currently on) , nothing wrong with that.
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If I go the ROOT-STOCK route, will I still be able to get OTA updates from google? Or will I have to unROOT?
you know what i would suggest? you now have source to your os, for your device!
if you know how (it's not difficult to learn how to use the proper tools, like fastboot), you can "cherry-pick" from anyone (well, almost) and roll your own rom, your own flavour of android in a very near future. even your own tweaked stock kernel.
you can tweak what you want, when you want. you can even make very own ota server, and roll out to your device, only! (think i read it on groups/android-building or in some android documentation)
remember, and this for the kangers that want to steal other people's work: dont!
always give proper and due credit to all the coders out there.
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Codename Android so far bugless and has better features than stock.
Thanks guys for the replies and not flaming me or others. I think I'll try stock and play and around with some minimal mods. I mean with a nandroid I can try s couple and revert back if I don't like them.
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Mmuzzys pure Asop 4.1.1 jelly bean for toro and toro plus are flawless. Been running the same ROM for a month no problems.
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