Stock or custom Rom ? - Samsung Galaxy Nexus

I have owned three Android devices before getting my GNex. Each of those three devices were rooted and rom-ed within the first one month. I have had my GNex for almost two months now on stock jellybean, no root or custom recovery. The flasher within me is itching to flash something new. The pragmatic within me finds no justification for flashing. The other devices had some issue or the other; everything works fine on stock jb on the Gnex. I am trying my best to side with the pragmatic.
Question to the community- I know what I gain from flashing a custom rom ( customizability, overclocking,etc) . Other than the warranty, what do I lose by moving away from the stock rom?
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viskon said:
I have owned three Android devices before getting my GNex. Each of those three devices were rooted and rom-ed within the first one month. I have had my GNex for almost two months now on stock jellybean, no root or custom recovery. The flasher within me is itching to flash something new. The pragmatic within me finds no justification for flashing. The other devices had some issue or the other; everything works fine on stock jb on the Gnex. I am trying my best to side with the pragmatic.
Question to the community- I know what I gain from flashing a custom rom ( customizability, overclocking,etc) . Other than the warranty, what do I lose by moving away from the stock rom?
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Well, I for one won't be flashing any ROMs (at least for several months) once my GNEX arrives tomorrow. Whenever I had an unsolvable issue which was with the ROM I chose and would ask for help, I'd get the most cynical responses. "That's what you signed up for" seems to be the common theme. It's like people enjoy being in constant beta tester mode, even when they are supposedly running the stable build of a ROM. The only reason I would flash a ROM is if the default JB build the phone came with was horribly broken. Overclocking on something like a phone is a bit excessive, especially for something that is already a powerhouse and can run the most intense games available for it with relative ease.

viskon said:
I have owned three Android devices before getting my GNex. Each of those three devices were rooted and rom-ed within the first one month. I have had my GNex for almost two months now on stock jellybean, no root or custom recovery. The flasher within me is itching to flash something new. The pragmatic within me finds no justification for flashing. The other devices had some issue or the other; everything works fine on stock jb on the Gnex. I am trying my best to side with the pragmatic.
Question to the community- I know what I gain from flashing a custom rom ( customizability, overclocking,etc) . Other than the warranty, what do I lose by moving away from the stock rom?
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You don't lose the warranty if you know what you're doing........
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viskon said:
Other than the warranty, what do I lose by moving away from the stock rom?
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You don't lose anything, but you gain a lot of nifty features.

I recommend you always try stock out for a bit before trying anything else. Stock 4.1.1 is damn good.
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martonikaj said:
I recommend you always try stock out for a bit before trying anything else. Stock 4.1.1 is damn good.
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Stock is great but I got tired of my phone giving me 15 hours of battery life on avg so I rooted to get a kernel
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Stock is great but I got tired of my phone giving me 15 hours of battery life on avg so I rooted to get a kernel
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Interesting. That is what i currently get. And did flashing a new kernel help?
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I tried several highly regarded JB roms (ParanoidAndroid, CM10 nightly, the varieties of AndroidME), but keep coming back to stock + Nova Launcher. Don't even need to (re-)root for that. Just a great combination that you can rely on.
But when I get that itch, I play around with ParanoidAndroid for a few days here and there. A really interesting rom, which I'm sure you'll hear a lot about.

I was coming from a sgs2 that was on a custom ROM and surprisingly I'm happy with stock 4.1 and see no need to flash a custom ROM. Maybe just a kernel to get better battery life even tho it lasts me all day with about 4 hours of screen on time so I can't really complain.
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I've been rooting, modding, and even custom ROM building since my Samsung Moment days and ever since. Since I got my Galaxy Nexus on Sprint, however, all I've done is flash a completely pure AOSP stock build of 4.1.1. With this device I have no desire other than to be running the most current Android source. Everything just works, and works well. I have no need for flashy features. Jelly Bean already has every feature I need.
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I love stock vanilla Android. All my other phones, I'd root and install Cyanogenmod asap. I'd always use the modified factory roms on offer as well, because Cyanogenmod often didn't work that well in the early days of a new device or Android version.
On the nexus I don't really need to flash, but I still use Cyanogenmod 10 anyway for the sole reason the power control toggles in the status bar are very handy.
Either way, only a nexus device can offer such high quality aosp based roms. I say have fun trying a few. Yes there are still issues sometimes but it's nothing like what I've experienced in other phones.
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Definitely Cusome
Stock is always nice for a while, but the reason you get a nexus is to be able to have fun and do things that others can't :good:

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Stock is always nice for a while, but the reason you get a nexus is to be able to have fun and do things that others can't :good:
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One of the reasons. For me it's just to have the latest AOSP software, and for me that is enough. The Nexus fills both plates very well.
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The reason I got a nexus was because I hated all the touchwiz/sense stuff and the pre-installed carrier garbage... thus removing my reason to root my phone (not that I don't like to tinker, but 18 credit hours leaves little time).
The only reason I ended up rooting was for PGM so I dont destroy my power button in 3 months like all my previous phones, and for the widgets to show up in apex/nova. Aside from those, I run a totally stock system...
On an unrelated note, sooooo many iphone owners in my classes ask me how to wake their iphone by swiping... i love telling them that they cant

Same boat. GSM stock ROM. Itching BUT I don't want to lock the phones secure element because Google wallet is pretty cool.
Night features are nice but not worth losing wallet over
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CyberpunkDad said:
Same boat. GSM stock ROM. Itching BUT I don't want to lock the phones secure element because Google wallet is pretty cool.
Night features are nice but not worth losing wallet over
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With the GSM Galaxy Nexus, you can unlock, root, find a custom ROM and flash it, then find the Google Wallet APK and install it. It'll say "unsupported device" because Google wants to warn you about "rooting," but it'll activate and work .
I'm using NexusHD 4.3 with GApps and Google Wallet.

With Galaxy Nexus and Jelly Bean there is no reason to try custom ROMS. Only bug a can find is 2.4GHZ wireless.

I've tried to stay as close to JB stock as possible, flashing a vanilla deodexed build of JB and just a couple of mods (battery percent and louder speaker sound) that increase everyday functionality for me and a kernel change because it increases battery life and on demand performance by a practically useful margin. Everyone's personal preferences I suppose but that's the great thing about a nexus device, it can please different tastes/uses very well.

Gnex is so boring ...there is no compelling reason to flash .. everything works just great without any tweaking
Life with galaxy s was more fun...flashing every nightly..dealing with bugs..spending hours on xda forum to find the fixes/work arounds / tricks to improve battery life..I miss all these.
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Need some advice

Long story short I've cone from a history of using the galaxy s phones so I have some experience with rooting and using adb and such. I have mostly stayed stock and unrooted for the reason that I use my phone daily for important phone calls, emails, apps and text messages. Basically I use the crap out of my phone and what I don't want is to root and flash a ROM to be continuously flashing and wiping my important data ever time or losing pictures. I have been following the aokp and pa threads and would like to know, in your honest opinions, what ROM will allow me the luxury of being bug less as or better than stock where I don't have to do any extra coding to get it working or be missing features or deal with broken functions? I am also curious about tablet mode as why I mentioned aokp and pa. Be honest about the bugs and don't just post a one line like " aokp ftw" as it doesn't help me. Also don't post " well just flash them all" I have too much going on and don't want to spend all day flashing ROM after ROM. Thanks.
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I'd say stay with stock rooted (which i currently on) , nothing wrong with that.
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In my experience of flashing ROMs I have learned that there is no such thing as a "Bugless ROM". Since Jellybean is still new, there are no stable Roms. But I could say that there are Roms out there that updates frequently in case they add new features or fix bugs. I have used ParanoidAndroid for it's Tablet mode which isn't too bad. Viewing emails from Gmail wasn't bad. It seemed easier viewing the emails because it shows different categories, like the "Trash, Spam. Sent, Draft, Important" on the right side. I didn't really like Tablet and Phablet mode while viewing the PlayStore, reason is because when looking for apps to download, it doesn't show the full Star ratings (meaning you will see 1 or two stars rating, and to see the full stars you would have to click on the actual app to see the ratings.).
I had a great experience with ParanoidAndroid but you have to keep in mind that there isn't a bugless rom and that you need to frequently update. If your still deciding, just check for the features that you like most.
For maximum stability, stay stock. Rooting won't affect stability.
If you want the extra features of a custom rom combined with good enough stability for daily use, flash stable / milestone releases.
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What I'm doing personally, is staying stock OTA rooted, until CM10 reaches stable build, then flashing CM10 stable, and being done with flashing.
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stock..but currently i am using codenameandroid.lots of customization with absolutely no problem.
No bugs for me on BAMF.
Nhan Lam said:
I'd say stay with stock rooted (which i currently on) , nothing wrong with that.
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If I go the ROOT-STOCK route, will I still be able to get OTA updates from google? Or will I have to unROOT?
you know what i would suggest? you now have source to your os, for your device!
if you know how (it's not difficult to learn how to use the proper tools, like fastboot), you can "cherry-pick" from anyone (well, almost) and roll your own rom, your own flavour of android in a very near future. even your own tweaked stock kernel.
you can tweak what you want, when you want. you can even make very own ota server, and roll out to your device, only! (think i read it on groups/android-building or in some android documentation)
remember, and this for the kangers that want to steal other people's work: dont!
always give proper and due credit to all the coders out there.
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Codename Android so far bugless and has better features than stock.
Thanks guys for the replies and not flaming me or others. I think I'll try stock and play and around with some minimal mods. I mean with a nandroid I can try s couple and revert back if I don't like them.
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Mmuzzys pure Asop 4.1.1 jelly bean for toro and toro plus are flawless. Been running the same ROM for a month no problems.
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Was rooted jedi cleanrom and jellythunder now stock

I rooted and installed custom roms just for multi Window bit decided to unroot when the ota AT&T update for multi window came out... since then I noticed a decent amount of batt decrease and a slighr lag here and there... considering going back to cleanrom... also noticed that pulling a app over from multiwindow bar sometimes only allows full screen not half.... please someone talk me out of it... I do like stock for ease of updates etc...
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Its all peraonal preference my friend. Its your phone. Do what you want to with it:thumbup:
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mrklc1974 said:
I rooted and installed custom roms just for multi Window bit decided to unroot when the ota AT&T update for multi window came out... since then I noticed a decent amount of batt decrease and a slighr lag here and there... considering going back to cleanrom... also noticed that pulling a app over from multiwindow bar sometimes only allows full screen not half.... please someone talk me out of it... I do like stock for ease of updates etc...
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One of the best thing about custom roms is that you get all the goodies before the updates that sometimes come months later if at all.For me,when I flash a custom rom on my android device it finally becomes mine.Until then you are literally AT&T/Verizon's etc,etc,etc *****.With all that useless crap on your phone that is forced on you without a choice.I personally like to have full control over what is on my device especially because now a days these "toys" cost as much as my laptop.Again,my personal preference.If anything I would try to talk you into re-rooting.LOL
p.s I am running cleanRom and it is absolutely the bees knees.
technut said:
One of the best thing about custom roms is that you get all the goodies before the updates that sometimes come months later if at all.For me,when I flash a custom rom on my android device it finally becomes mine.Until then you are literally AT&T/Verizon's etc,etc,etc *****.With all that useless crap on your phone that is forced on you without a choice.I personally like to have full control over what is on my device especially because now a days these "toys" cost as much as my laptop.Again,my personal preference.If anything I would try to talk you into re-rooting.LOL
p.s I am running cleanRom and it is absolutely the bees knees.
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Amen. The battery life, at least in my experience, is unquestionably superior on Jedi vs stock, and i fought hardddd to stay stock like constantly diagnosing wake locks and battery usage.
Or you can flash a different kernel
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mrklc1974 said:
I rooted and installed custom roms just for multi Window bit decided to unroot when the ota AT&T update for multi window came out... since then I noticed a decent amount of batt decrease and a slighr lag here and there... considering going back to cleanrom... also noticed that pulling a app over from multiwindow bar sometimes only allows full screen not half.... please someone talk me out of it... I do like stock for ease of updates etc...
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Well...duh...did you honestly expect something better than what you had ? Did you suddenly expect a pushed update from AT&T to offer you a better experiance than those 3 custom roms ? Ease of updates...? I don't get it...Are you actually trying to say relying on a OTA update is easier than actually flashing a new update yourself ? Are you saying waiting and waiting and hoping you get a good ota download and it flashes properly for you..is better than being able to flash and being able to reflash if you actually need it ?
Sorry if I sound rude...but come on...get real would you...You knew the benifits going in and why you rooted it and flashed them..and now you want folks to paint a all rosey picture that a full blown unrooted phone is better than a rooted one running those 3 custom roms...Sorry...it ain't going to happen unless it is coming from someone who didn't install something correctly..or just perfers the bloat and limitations of a stock phone..
If you want & like the stock feel and look...flash Scott's AT&T special edition of his Clean rom..It's debloated..and he has linked to some theming for it..
If you want to go way beyond..wait for Truth's new one out later today or tommorrow..It's fully themed..debloated..has all the latest & greatest available..is fast..and everything works on it..What more could you want...
Personally...I won't ever run a stock phone on purpose after the allowable return time for it..Triangle away has removed the worry of returning it for service..and TWRP has made flashing anything a non issue as well..
It's your phone..run it the way you want to..and be happy..but please don't ask on a developers forum to be convinced to stay on a stock rom..that is just plain lame...IMHO
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I know exactly what you mean and I did feel the same way. Samsung has done an amazing job with this phone. However I have used Jedi, miscoms international roms, cleanrom, now on cleanatt. I have found with a on a custom kernel either persus or the aslyum/note2core. As long as I undervolted and didn't over clock my battery life was a lot better than stock and phone was much quicker and responsive over stock and still had all the great features. We have some awesome devs here for roms and kernels. To me is a very hard choice on what rom to stay on as well as kernel. They are all amazing in there own ways and in my opinion all awesome. I hope no devs flame me I'm just saying they are all very intelligent people at this and I see great things in all there work. AS FOR NOW. I'm on Scotts dedicated at&T. I have took around 40 user and system apps that "I" consider bloat and running persus kernel with the profile zip of 2 offered. My battery life is insane. All day of heavy use and still about 70perecnt left after 8 hours or so. Hope I may have helped you or someone else. I love open source
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I have been over clocked to 1800 and above on Jedi and pulled over 2 days off charger with over 8 hours screen time. If you want to stick with stock look, Clean Special build and definitely a kernel. They pull the debugging crap out, optimize voltages, etc. Kernel devs have been working magic...and finding bugs that Sammy, HTC, missed
Edit...patiently waiting for that Blackout later today.
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mrklc1974 said:
... considering going back to cleanrom... .... please someone talk me out of it... I do like stock for ease of updates etc...
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Well...if you want to stay stock...you could try disabling various stock apps that you don't need via settings:app mgr...it's hard to hurt anything and you can always re-able them.
other than that
I think updates are "cleanrom" are pretty easy. Named "clean..." for a reason and I feel like it's stock with added benefits. Have fun deciding.
mrklc1974 said:
I rooted and installed custom roms just for multi Window bit decided to unroot when the ota AT&T update for multi window came out... since then I noticed a decent amount of batt decrease and a slighr lag here and there... considering going back to cleanrom... also noticed that pulling a app over from multiwindow bar sometimes only allows full screen not half.... please someone talk me out of it... I do like stock for ease of updates etc...
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Custom rom always. I ran my Note 2 stocked for 2 days and could not stand it. I had to because I was out of town for those 2 days. I suggest you load the Jelly Thunder Blackout 3.0 ROM asap. You'll love it.
I bought a second one white this time just got this reason. One to root to death and one totally stock. Just got the ota on the stock one and already miss tapatalk in the multi window. Once the allshare bug gets fixed universally (built into ROM) I think they both will be rooted
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Jelly thunder is where its at the dark theme is everywhere
The reason it goes full screen on some apps is because not all apps work with half screen. Not stock anyway.
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just_visiting said:
Custom rom always. I ran my Note 2 stocked for 2 days and could not stand it. I had to because I was out of town for those 2 days. I suggest you load the Jelly Thunder Blackout 3.0 ROM asap. You'll love it.
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running that since day one! Jedi didn't play some of my videos so didn't use it! Plus blackout is what you want. Much better!
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Jelly thunder is where its at the dark theme is everywhere
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Agree 100%, geared for the older folks on xda. Lol
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Yeah im running jelly thunder on my note 2. But some reason its model is galaxy nexus.. but im loving roms. Come back to the dark side. Less bloat ware. And everything you need on your phone.
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Yeah im running jelly thunder on my note 2. But some reason its model is galaxy nexus.. but im loving roms. Come back to the dark side. Less bloat ware. And everything you need on your phone.
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Well u did not follow complete instructions on installing the rom. You will be running into problems if u don't fix asap.

Who prefers to stay on STOCK?????

i'm curious if anyone here on XDA prefers being on stock. How come? You don't like roms? root? Just curious on what people that love to stay on stock.
Thanks.
This thread belongs in the Q&A forum, not the General forum. (Also, your '?' key seems to be stuck.)
Gary02468 your number lock seems to be stuck. Qt pie.
I am kinda in that boat
I just got my note2 and have since flashed recovery / and clean rom however I tend to like sticking stockish till I know the water temp so to speak. I tried to just do the root with out changing the counter but OTA's killed my root. Hence the twrp and clean rom...
I just cant win... heh.
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i'm curious if anyone here on XDA prefers being on stock. How come? You don't like roms? root? Just curious on what people that love to stay on stock.
Thanks.
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I love being on stock dont get me wrong I love the clean roms and root access but since I am coming as a long term iPhone user stock feels amazing and very open to be able to do so much personalizing to the device without having to get into roms is great but I do hate the boatware lol
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Nice to see an iphone user do the swap
I gotta say its awesome to see an iPhone user move on over.
I'm staying in stock to keep the slow motion video feature. And because CM 10's camera is really glitchy
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I love being on stock dont get me wrong I love the clean roms and root access but since I am coming as a long term iPhone user stock feels amazing and very open to be able to do so much personalizing to the device without having to get into roms is great but I do hate the boatware lol
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And it seems that there's no"." key on your iphone.
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i'm curious if anyone here on XDA prefers being on stock. How come? You don't like roms? root? Just curious on what people that love to stay on stock.
Thanks.
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On many phones I have stayed on stock for stability and feature set. In many cases when you go to another rom (especially AOSP) you lose TW features, S-Pen, etc... and in many cases I find not everything is 100%
That said the Note II development is fantastic. Many of the TW based roms give you everything you get with stock, but with more. AOSP you lose the TW feature set but it is amazingly stable and fast with a whole lot of other features.
With my S3 I could not find a single rom that I did not have problems on, but with the Note II I have a harder time deciding WHICH rom to use :good:
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I love being on stock dont get me wrong I love the clean roms and root access but since I am coming as a long term iPhone user stock feels amazing and very open to be able to do so much personalizing to the device without having to get into roms is great but I do hate the boatware lol
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So then flash the stock international rom from miscom like a lot of us have.... Stock experience with No bs att bloat
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I'm staying in stock to keep the slow motion video feature. And because CM 10's camera is really glitchy
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I agree with this guy. Even with my acer liquid mt when I rooted it and used the leaked gingerbread rom for it, the camera (which i use a lot got messed up and would over expose the pictures to white messes of garbage) and I noticed that after switching back to the normal stock rom with root, the camera would screw the video with red green and blue lines...gross I know...
And plus, just like my old ipod touch 2g (which doesnt work cuz the battery is dead. big surprise CRapple) it looked as normal as it should, but behind the curtain, the device was screaming at me to stop, every little tweak, hack, or anything I could do to the device. (Except install android on it because the project cut off 2Gs)
So what im saying is, its more fun to screw with the stock app.
Dont like the boatware?
Download a root app uninstaller.
Dont like anything about most devices?
Someone else doesnt like it either, and theyre smarter than you and figured out how to change that.
Root all stock roms.
Maybe one day, they will have an option to come rooted and unlocked.
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For me 1st time I'm on stock. I like it and don't see a need for change I did root it. On my SGS the minute I go it I put a rom on it.
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I did until I discovered PA battery life. Been 5 hours of fair use, mostly as a media player, connected to data. Battery is still at 84%
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I hate stock as soon as another ROM handles all I want. I have a toddler. I need camera function. As soon as cm10 fixed it a week ago. I will never go back to stock again. Only 2 features I miss are page buddy and mhl. Page buddy probably can be modded in though
I love the new features they keep adding instead of stock. And I love a 150meg download instead of 700meg
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The lack of mhl in cm or aokp keep me on stock based roms
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The same day I purchased my Note 2, I had it rooted and has TWRP installed on it. Day 2 I was flashing roms. I guess I just really like to tinker with my phones, because where was nothing wrong with stock!
C.FLAT, "I'm staying in stock to keep the slow motion video feature. And because CM 10's camera is really glitchy"
If you are that concerned with the camera features working why not flash a ROM like Scrosler's CLEAN ROM ATT SE. It made from ATT base. Completely stock without the bloatware. Everything works perfectly and you are not at the mercy of your carrier to recieve OTA's instead your at Scroslers lol. But seriously, I would much rather get/wait for updates from a DEV here on XDA (Where I can talk directly to the DEV and or people in the thread also using the ROM) instead of waiting for carriers to take forever and you can't directly talk to the team of people who made the Official ROM . So for me if you want stock look and feel with no bloatware and is more customizable than actual stock I would go with a ROM based or made from complete stock base. Just my 2 cents
Slow motion on jedi
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skifreek said:
So then flash the stock international rom from miscom like a lot of us have.... Stock experience with No bs att bloat
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besides the excellent support miscom. Thanks miscom
I'm on stock cause I got no reason to be otherwise. Everything works as intended, and the so-called "bloatware" is in reality a complete non-issue.

To MOD or Not to MOD.....???

Gents...............(& Ladies)
Im a huge fan of Cyanogen mod. However I have had my Note II since day it came out & i really like everything about it cant complain at all. Just curious if its worth MOD'n it and going back to Cyanogen. Also does 4G work on Cyanogen? Any feedback on this would be great!!!!
4g works. Worth it for the themes in my opinion but battery life will take a dive. At least it did with me.
If CM had better usage of the camera and if spen worked I'd be all over it. But it doesn't and never will so it'll have to always be touchwiz for me
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Battery life issues are always expected with CM but I'm used to that. However no use of S pen is interesting. Is there any reason they won't make it work?
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S-pen works, you just lose the touchwiz apps. Look in the OP of the cyanogen thread for replacement apps
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This is the first Android phone I have no desire to use a custom ROM with.
4.1.2 + Nova = win for me.
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This is the first Android phone I have no desire to use a custom ROM with.
4.1.2 + Nova = win for me.
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I've been running CM since the G1, as weird as it is, I don't think I will flash any AOSP ROMs. I'm very happy with TW + Whomp.
This is the 1st device I feel it doesn't need any custom roms. I'm not a fan of TW but this phone is a beast running rooted stock.
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I tried custom roms on mine when I was looking to hack wifi tether into working, and figured the third party roms would be easier, but losing S-Memo was detrimental to my enjoyment of the phone.
It also seemed much buggier and unreliable in comparison to stock, no matter which rom I used. I ended up going back to stock, and the bugs that I'd experienced with stock seemed to go away too... Right at the moment I'm unrooted in an effort to try to download the update, but no dice so I'm suffering.
This is an intense difference from my last Samsung phone, the Epic 4g, which I rooted nearly the day I got it because it was so unusable. I almost refused to sell it without a third-party rom on it for fear of diminishing my Ebay reputation for selling ****ty products.
Overall a good phone, with great stock stability and software. I haven't had a force-close or crash since I reflashed stock.
Try it out. It won't kill ya
I come from the nexus S and galaxy nexus ran CM on both since the first day I bought the phone tried CM on my note 2 but this phone meant to run with a stock rom just rooted so I can enable all app multi window and remove some bloatware.
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I was gonna run pacman rom but really don't want to lose any of the s functions. Owning a note 2 without all the functionality is like going to a birthday party and not having any cake!!!! Just my 2 cents but to each his own

What is the need for a custom ROM for this device?

I always run a custom ROM on my phones because of all the bloatware n such. But what is the need really to do it on this device? Stock android is smooth and does everything I need. Battery life is great too. So am I missing out on something by having a custom rom on this device? Convince me!
Well there are simple things that I like about custom ROMs.
I like trying new things. I also enjoy tweaking the various features that are available with most custom ROMs. There is expanded desktop and PIE controls which makes gaming full screen which is really nice. I don't know if you've ever been bothered by this but games always have the bar at the bottom of the screen which is annoying and gets in the way sometimes. Sometimes it is just nice to have a full screen to use even if it means losing some functionality.
To get rid of the google stuff.
Speed, battery life, expanded desktop, theming, tablet mode, etc.
I find it a little annoying that the stock kernel supports NFS, but they've arranged everything to run in a unique namespace so you can't make a NFS mount visible outside the shell where you ran the mount command. I don't really need NFS enough to want to replace the ROM, but I can imagine that being a reason to do so.
Pie
Quiet Hours
Advanced reboot menu
Custom DPI Settings
Making the bars transparent.
And I could just go on and on.
Need? I don't need a custom rom. I want it. Google bare minimum is awesome only to a point.
There isn't so much of a need as a desire. The device stock benches around 5475. With CM and a custom kernal installed I not only have better battery life, and quicker charge - but it benches at 7510.
May I ask what kernel you're using?
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cesarmanilla said:
May I ask what kernel you're using?
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Are you asking me?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2383361
In my case I don't need and/or want a custom ROM. I got a Nexus to run and enjoy Android tablet as Google intend to. For custom ROMs I use my SPH-L710 (SGS3)
And even there never keep one more than 10 days, don't like to be troubleshooting every day and a half.
Well that's just me.
Most of the time I keep stock rooted just to use Freedom app.
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I used to custom everything but since jellybean I've not bothered. The only things I really miss is a few root apps like ad block
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Is the CM nightly's stable enough yet? Or should I wait for a official build?
I'm not rooting my tab yet, I'll give it a month or 2 before I do first. N7 is perfect for me as it is atm
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I unlocked mine, flashed custom recovery, rooted.
I am leaving it stock rom and stock kernel for quite a while. :good:
I would like to use it stock for a while. Then I I want to put whatever rom I want. I think it is a matter of personalization. I feel it is totally mine only when fully customize my device
One word: Customizable Quick Settings!
fixyourtech said:
I unlocked mine, flashed custom recovery, rooted.
I am leaving it stock rom and stock kernel for quite a while. :good:
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I have read conflicting info on rooting the N7 2013. If I unlock and flash TWRP will the stock ROM not be wiped? What about if SU? Noob here on the Nexus but expert on the HTC T-Bolt and B&N Nook Tablet. What a upgrade from the Nook Tablet. It just sits on my desk now.......
Bobflan said:
I have read conflicting info on rooting the N7 2013. If I unlock and flash TWRP the stock ROM not be wiped? What about if SU? Noob here on the Nexus but expert on the HTC T-Bolt and B&N Nook Tablet. What a upgrade from the Nook Tablet. It just sits on my desk now.......
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Yes, your data will be wiped, but not the stock ROM (/system). fastboot oem unlock will basically do a factory reset for security purposes.
Nitin985 said:
I'm not rooting my tab yet, I'll give it a month or 2 before I do first. N7 is perfect for me as it is atm
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Waiting for the roms to reach a certain point in stability and for some step by step guides to go up also on getting from stock to CM or somethin. Also, enjoying some google stock for the first time to..always had samsung so this is new to me(and will be getting my first nexus on next release to)
As someone who has only been on stock or mostly stock phones, I'm not in awe by what stock Android brings to the table. CM is what stock should be while other ROMs go above and beyond in what they offer.
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