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Do y'all think when LTE comes over to sprint that we can switch over from wimax to LTE?
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Not being a smartass, but only if it is in your area and you upgrade your phone.
Its cool..I was talking about as in change them out some how... devs do all types of things....just wanted to kno was it impossible
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kingcaliyone said:
Do y'all think when LTE comes over to sprint that we can switch over from wimax to LTE?
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Craig L and Ed Bay are working on swapping the modems.
sfhub said:
Craig L and Ed Bay are working on swapping the modems.
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If it were that simple, sprint would have done it already and used it as a selling point and to extend the life of the phone
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I just wanna see if it can b done
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Craig L and Ed Bay are working on swapping the modems.
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Nice.
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More realistically if enough ppl complained maybe we can get sprint to give us a free upgrade to an LTE device
By the time LTE actually comes to your area, you'll probably be eligible for an upgrade anyway.
And why would you get a free upgrade? It's not like the WiMAX service is being shut down or anything.
There are theories, but nothing confirmed yet.
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More realistically if enough ppl complained maybe we can get sprint to give us a free upgrade to an LTE device
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I called Sprint when the news that they were ending WiMax came out and they said that if I did not have 4G in my area they would allow me an earlier upgrade to an LTE phone with no penalties.
I had to push them for a while and escalate and bedazzle them with logic, but it worked.
But it was all for nothing since my phone will be put up for sale May 7th.
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I just wanna see if it can b done
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No. Need new hardware, hence new device.
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Our processors can't handle lte
Hence the reason tmo gs2 and att skyrocket has a different processor
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gtuansdiamm said:
Our processors can't handle lte
Hence the reason tmo gs2 and att skyrocket has a different processor
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Precessors have nothing to do with it. The problem is with the antennas. We simply do not have the hardware for lte.
Nah, he is right about the Exynos. I forgot about it. We did hear it may be possible with a software reprogram. Still looking to confirm.
The Root said:
Nah, he is right about the Exynos. I forgot about it. We did hear it may be possible with a software reprogram. Still looking to confirm.
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By "we" you mean sprint employees? They told me at my local store it was not possible. That was a couple months ago. Have things changed? That would be awesome.
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By "we" you mean sprint employees? They told me at my local store it was not possible. That was a couple months ago. Have things changed? That would be awesome.
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We as in ACS. We were in touch with a reliable source that I'd prefer not to name the origin of.
A few things...
LTE and WIMAX do require 2 different radios so if you wanted your device to switch between them it would have to have both radios built in.
Wimax is not going away anytime soon because we announced a new hotspot device which houses all of our radios aka "quadband".
Just a question; Why is complaining ever a solution? Technology moves like water. You jump in knowing that there is newer and better just up stream of you. Retail some how gives people a sence of entitlment which baffles me. You buy a car, do you complain the next year and say "well now there is a 2013 modle with x,y,z in it so I should get it for free".... just silly, baby town frolics even.
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LTE and WIMAX do require 2 different radios so if you wanted your device to switch between them it would have to have both radios built in.
Wimax is not going away anytime soon because we announced a new hotspot device which houses all of our radios aka "quadband".
Just a question; Why is complaining ever a solution? Technology moves like water. You jump in knowing that there is newer and better just up stream of you. Retail some how gives people a sence of entitlment which baffles me. You buy a car, do you complain the next year and say "well now there is a 2013 modle with x,y,z in it so I should get it for free".... just silly, baby town frolics even.
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I kinda agree with what you're saying... I think what people are having an issue with is that they are stuck in contract with a non-lte phone. If you had to pay 5 times for that newer model car than what a new customer would pay, I bet you would be pretty upset too. I just hope my upgrade timing plays out perfectly to when lte is coming to chicago. That would be awesome.
On that meeting they had about network vision they did say about making lte work under Wimax or something like that I may be wrong thoe
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$.01 on amazon yee ima so get it
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You forgot to mention that its 2 yr contract. Honestly, I'd just get the GSM nexus and get a prepaid..
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$.01 on amazon yee ima so get it
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Any specific reason why you want to be stuck on Sprint with those 3G speeds? Unless you live in Texas (only 4G LTE out) I don't know why you'd want to go with Sprint over GSM + Prepaid plan.
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Any specific reason why you want to be stuck on Sprint with those 3G speeds? Unless you live in Texas (only 4G LTE out) I don't know why you'd want to go with Sprint over GSM + Prepaid plan.
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The Verizon gnex is a penny on Amazon also. Has been for a while.
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The Verizon gnex is a penny on Amazon also. Has been for a while.
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Same argument applies to Verizon. But at least they have good service.
You couldn't pay me to go back to Sprint.
I'm not going for that horrible CDMA speeds even if they pay me...bad deal for someone to be stuck on sprint for 2 years waiting for LTE to come. GSM is the way to go or Verizon if network coverage and LTE is important.
I already have a pre2 gsm lol
Plus im still hoping sprint nv will improve everything.......
Nonetheless unlimited cant be beat so far ive used 18gb
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donsh00tmesanta said:
I already have a pre2 gsm lol
Plus im still hoping sprint nv will improve everything.......
Nonetheless unlimited cant be beat so far ive used 18gb
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Sprint won't be getting better anytime soon. Don't buy a phone for what you think it'll be. Buy a phone for what it is now...
I don't know how you're using 18GB a month, Sprint's speeds are atrociously slow.
Its on 3g and I get about 250KB/s so I have been netflixing/hulu/HBO go/xfinity play/crackle alot here
Honestly enough for me on a phone no need for 2MB/s so there lte here will be only a bonus. Other areas I agree too so slow hopefully lte there will help. Plus unlimited is unlimited no matter what.
Either the tower has been upgraded recently or hardly any sprint users here the latter is impossible since I know so many have sprint here.
Plus been downloading roms like mad
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I just found out our "sprint sgs3" phones can browse the internet/apps/sync and download while "talking on the phone"-while on 3g(wifi off), im sure it works while on 4g lte too, but I dont have 4g lte in my area yet so cant tell..
*maybe old news to some, but new to me*
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I noticed this as well and I have taken advantage a few times already. Comes in handy when I am on the phone in the car and I also need to fire up Navigation to get somewhere. That would not work on the Evo 4G unless I was connected to Wimax.
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I noticed this as well and I have taken advantage a few times already. Comes in handy when I am on the phone in the car and I also need to fire up Navigation to get somewhere. That would not work on the Evo 4G unless I was connected to Wimax.
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I don't think car + phone + INTERNET would be a very good idea..
But yes, it's a nice thing to have .
Yep this also works on the EvoLTE... But this doesn't work on the new Note2.. Another reason to stay with the GS3
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Yep this also works on the EvoLTE... But this doesn't work on the new Note2.. Another reason to stay with the GS3
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That and the 299.99 price tag for a 16gb
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I believe this is part of the benefit of them switching to 1x advanced... It's nice!
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A little late to the party. It's called SVDO, which allows devices with CDMA radios to simultaneously use voice and data.
My understanding is that only the S3 and EVO LTE have the radios capable of doing this, whereas the Nexus LTE may not.
Gs3 and the Evo LTE has two radios antennas. One for voice & one for data. So I've heard. Let me know if I'm wrong tho
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Gs3 and the Evo LTE has two radios antennas. One for voice & one for data. So I've heard. Let me know if I'm wrong tho
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this, dunno why sprint doesnt advertise it
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this, dunno why sprint doesnt advertise it
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Its not a feature that only Sprint has. AT&T's network has allowed it for awhile. The Verizon version of the GS3 probably can do the same thing.
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Its not a feature that only Sprint has. AT&T's network has allowed it for awhile. The Verizon version of the GS3 probably can do the same thing.
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Verizon can't do it from What I heard
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Ligerblue said:
this, dunno why sprint doesnt advertise it
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Probably cause they dont realize it
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Its not a feature that only Sprint has. AT&T's network has allowed it for awhile. The Verizon version of the GS3 probably can do the same thing.
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AT&T is GSM, not CDMA. Different technologies.
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Probably cause they dont realize it
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It's because they don't support SVDO on all towers and during high volumes, data is less prioritized so you may only get voice.
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Probably cause they dont realize it
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LMAO I wouldn't be surprised. I don't even bother going into their store to ask questions. Only to look at phones and when I'm approached by someone I tell them I'm fine because 99% of what they say is misinformation or flat out ridiculous. Last time I went I overheard one of the guys telling this lady who obviously knew nothing about phones that she should go with the Epic Touch 4G because the Galaxy Nexus "wasn't that good." Really? It was hard holding my tongue at that moment. Anyways sorry to get a little off topic but just had to let it out.
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Not to be Mr obvious but the real world reason you may be use this while driving legal and safely would be if you had your gs3 mounted on your dash using Google nav and then your phone rings and you answer it on your Bluetooth.... All while Google nav never loosing its map data connection.
I do this all the time
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I just found out the other day you could browser and talk on the phone at the same time. Sprint's first phone capable.
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I just found out the other day you could browser and talk on the phone at the same time. Sprint's first phone capable.
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Actually, the Evo 4G LTE did SVDO before the S3. And I'm not 100% sure, but I'm pretty sure there were other SVDO-capable phones before the Evo.
My Galaxy Attain from metropcs can talk and browse at the same time and I got that phone over 8 months ago I'm sure there are a few phones that can do this
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So I was in a tmobile store today and was told that both the note II and Gs3 will receive a software patch to enable the lte radio. Asked the question like 10 different ways as I've read online that the gs3 will NOT be let cab able.
the internal phone workings are a little above my head...but i was told that the tmobile sg3 is the same as say the att model which does have the lte radio,
So, does that sound right that the SG3 is future proof and will be able to enable LTE?
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So I was in a tmobile store today and was told that both the note II and Gs3 will receive a software patch to enable the lte radio. Asked the question like 10 different ways as I've read online that the gs3 will NOT be let cab able.
the internal phone workings are a little above my head...but i was told that the tmobile sg3 is the same as say the att model which does have the lte radio,
So, does that sound right that the SG3 is future proof and will be able to enable LTE?
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The question I should have asked is if they are shipping different GS3's for tmobile now? But regardless they were so confident that it will (LTE) be enabled...wanted to ask the experts thx
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The question I should have asked is if they are shipping different GS3's for tmobile now? But regardless they were so confident that it will (LTE) be enabled...wanted to ask the experts thx
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when i worked at t mobile we were told that the galaxy s3 for t mobile has LTE radios, and that the device will support the LTE rollout. this was straight from corporate.
BOOM :highfive:
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when i worked at t mobile we were told that the galaxy s3 for t mobile has LTE radios, and that the device will support the LTE rollout. this was straight from corporate.
BOOM :highfive:
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and that was from day 1? Obviously there has been debate about this on this forum and people much smarter than I have agued that it will never get LTE...
do you remember if there is something that has to be enabled? Or if say where I live they activate the LTE tower, boom it will work?
Its been a while so I dont remember the details, but I am convinced that
1. We will NOTget LTE one our GS3.
2. It doesn't really matter. By the time the majority of us get LTE in our market, we will have moved on to an even better phone! Also, most of us will get hspa+42 soon which for now is more than sufficient for almost everyones needs.
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Its been a while so I dont remember the details, but I am convinced that
1. We will NOTget LTE one our GS3.
2. It doesn't really matter. By the time the majority of us get LTE in our market, we will have moved on to an even better phone! Also, most of us will get hspa+42 soon which for now is more than sufficient for almost everyones needs.
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I think these threads need to be shut down. There are a number of other threads exactly like this that holds the correct information. Thanks Doc
I agree with Doc, we'll probably be on better phones by the time we have decent LTE reception -- and I'm happy enough with the DC-HSPA+ modem.
IMHO, they will likely release a Galaxy S3 [4G] LTE as an interm between the S3 and the S4. WRT LTE, all I know is what I see on Wikipedia's snapdragon article. Which isn't very clear on details. Also numerous MSM8960 phones /w LTE exist but do we even know if it's on die, let along bothering to crack open an AT&T and T-Mobile GS3 for a little hardware compare?
So afye reading this I have a question.... if you guys are saying that our phones arent capable then why on my phone (running frosty jb v7) are there 2 system apps called LTESettings.apk and LTETest.apk??? Are these not for our phone and are just ther e due to it being a port? And if so can I safely remove them so they are taking away ram and battery? Thanks in advanced
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So afye reading this I have a question.... if you guys are saying that our phones arent capable then why on my phone (running frosty jb v7) are there 2 system apps called LTESettings.apk and LTETest.apk??? Are these not for our phone and are just ther e due to it being a port? And if so can I safely remove them so they are taking away ram and battery? Thanks in advanced
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They serve no purpose to our devices so yes you can remove them. Just in case, make a backup first. Like move them to memory card or something.
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They serve no purpose to our devices so yes you can remove them. Just in case, make a backup first. Like move them to memory card or something.
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Thanks I did so w/o issues
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By the time lte does roll out... The galaxy s4 will be out and most of us will switch to it. And I'm pretty sure the s4 will support lte
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By the time lte does roll out... The galaxy s4 will be out and most of us will switch to it. And I'm pretty sure the s4 will support lte
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It is dependent upon wether we have the hardware included I believe.
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It is dependent upon wether we have the hardware included I believe.
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Samsung would only fail if they didn't include lte hardware in the new galaxy s4 especially because it's being released after tmobile starts rolling out lte which is February 2013
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Maybe I am the only one. LTE is not very efficient. I am happy with 3g+++.Tmo 3g super sized is a very good system. My company provided LTE hot spot sucks bandwidth like no other. Be careful what you ask for.
I have not had 4g working on my Epic at all unless I was all the way on the other side of town. Now I know for a fact that LTE is not in my area but for the hell of it I activated my old LG Viper LTE and what do you know, I have constant 16 meg download on 4g. Anyone here that might have an idea of why this is? I really want to use my epic but wow this 4g stuff is nice too.
the 4G in our phone is on the wimax network, not LTE
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I 100 percent understand that, that's the reason I was confused because sprint has not setup lte here yet.
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I 100 percent understand that, that's the reason I was confused because sprint has not setup lte here yet.
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Maybe they have and didn't tell you lol
Maybe you got lucky and caught them during a trial period lol. Or your roaming on another lte network but idk if that's possible or not. some one else could clarify if it is possible
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Maybe you got lucky and caught them during a trial period lol. Or your roaming on another lte network but idk if that's possible or not. some one else could clarify if it is possible
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No I don't think that's possible... I'm pretty sure that Sprint and Verizon (or anybody else) would use the same frequencies for their 4G... they want it to stay fast... trial period is most likely
This Network Vision thing Sprint has been talking about is real. Lots of new LTE towers up recently all over the country. And no there is no 4g roaming between carriers.
4g LTE roaming is not possible between any of the carriers.
ATT LTE uses low 700mhz block & in the future, some AWS and WCS.
Vz LTE uses upper 700mhz block & in the future, AWS.
T-mobile LTE is AWS
Sprint LTE is PCS 1900/ SMR 800 / BRS-EBS 2.5/2.6ghz
I will give sprint a call tomorrow and ask because I need to know if I need to get a good lte phone. Can't even get any 4g on this phone.
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I will give sprint a call tomorrow and ask because I need to know if I need to get a good lte phone. Can't even get any 4g on this phone.
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Yeah Wimax is spotty at best
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I 100 percent understand that, that's the reason I was confused because sprint has not setup lte here yet.
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It could be up and not announce it yet. Same as Here in my area (Arecibo PR) LTE is up and running but not officially announced. Even if you call CS they will negate it's up. Only officially available west of PR.
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Just use sensorly and open signal it'll show you exactly where towers are and their broadcast bands (1x, 3g, lte, wimax) and coverage range
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It has been confirmed by sprint that lte is in my area and 3 more towers are still being worked on. Just ordered my G Nexus.
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bigblue4life said:
It has been confirmed by sprint that lte is in my area and 3 more towers are still being worked on. Just ordered my G Nexus.
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Shoulda got an s3 or note 2 the gNex is old as dirt in phone age
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Shoulda got an s3 or note 2 the gNex is old as dirt in phone age
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G Nex is a great phone. 3 friends here have one and there is nothing old about it.
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G Nex is a great phone. 3 friends here have one and there is nothing old about it.
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Except it came out 9 months ago and the nexus 4 has already replaced it. Its got a weak camera, low RAM, poor display and did I mention it's old. If it was any phone but a nexus it wouldn't be getting updated anymore and headed for EOL, which it will be EOL less than halfway thru your new contract
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My wife has a nexus. Its not bad but it came out before the e4gt. Hers is the verizon version. It does run good for having inferior cpu. Lte radio is a plus. No gorilla glass! Shes shattered 2. Overall great phone just lacks features from s3, but its basically free now. Lte is being built in my town now. So maybe few months and its live letd hope s4 is out.
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Except it came out 9 months ago and the nexus 4 has already replaced it. Its got a weak camera, low RAM, poor display and did I mention it's old. If it was any phone but a nexus it wouldn't be getting updated anymore and headed for EOL, which it will be EOL less than halfway thru your new contract
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I agree with you I dont see the reason of getting that phone unless you got it free without upgrading your contract lol. My co worker still has his and geez it kinda suck to me volume is to low and the screen aint all that but hey guess as long as its a google phone it get plays.
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