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Hello everyone.
I'm on sprint now on referral plan with gs2, love the phone, hate service. But, since I pay next to nothing, was toughing it out for a while. Can not anymore, getting worse day by day and Nv is crap!
Anyways, I used to have tmobile and loved it, very fast data ans I like the idea of hspa+.
My question, however, is about galaxy nexus and tmobile hspa42. From the looks of it, their hspa+42 network is live here in Colorado, but the unlocked galaxy nexus only supports hspa+21? So, I'm guessing that is a pretty big deal as I won't be able to get the performance I could with another device that does support hspa+42?
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You are correct that the nexus does not support the hspa 42 network. I think the galaxy s2 on tmobile does, that's why they went with the snapdragon instead of the exynos or ti omap.
I personally don't think it is a reason to go with a "42" device over a nexus device. Users have posted their speedtest scores and they generally look good.
Not sure if this answers your question.
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se1zure31 said:
You are correct that the nexus does not support the hspa 42 network. I think the galaxy s2 on tmobile does, that's why they went with the snapdragon instead of the exynos or ti omap.
I personally don't think it is a reason to go with a "42" device over a nexus device. Users have posted their speedtest scores and they generally look good.
Not sure if this answers your question.
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True, but is that a pretty big jump in speed when on hspa42? Real world performance I mean, I know that on paper hspa42 can reach potential speeds of 28-30mbps, I'm guessing it never has though.
Anything is better than <300kbps I get now on sprint. Even on 4g it is about 800-1.5mbps.
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I cannot comment on the hspa 42 speeds myself but if that is a bigger deal than the true nexus experience go with a t-mobile galaxy s2. It's a great phone, but stock its still on gingerbread. Don't think I could go back to that personally.
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You know how Google has it on sale unlocked for $400? I see that they only have grey, eBay has new ones which are unlocked in white. Would all those also work good on hspa+21 that tmobile has? I'm guessing they are all same but different color?
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I'm using the white gnex on tmo. I previously used a tmo sgs2. The gnex is compatible with the hspa21 network & sgs2 with the hspa42. That being said, these are theoretical peak speeds aka not what you're actually going to get. There is no difference between speeds on my gnex or the sgs2. Both have reached up to 15mbps with full bars of service. This is in westchester, NY.
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afive720 said:
You know how Google has it on sale unlocked for $400? I see that they only have grey, eBay has new ones which are unlocked in white. Would all those also work good on hspa+21 that tmobile has? I'm guessing they are all same but different color?
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All i9250 are the same. They're all 21mbps HSPA+.
The speed difference between 42mbps and 21mbps radios in the real world isn't very big. The real-world max speeds you'll see on 21 are like ~11mbps, whereas on 42 you'll maybe peak at ~17mbps. All dependent on tons of factors.
You won't be dissatisfied with 21mbps device on T-Mobile. The speeds are great.
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You know how Google has it on sale unlocked for $400? I see that they only have grey, eBay has new ones which are unlocked in white. Would all those also work good on hspa+21 that tmobile has? I'm guessing they are all same but different color?
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just remember that if you don't buy the usa version (the 16gb silver one google sells directly) you don't get a warranty or samsung support in the usa
the highest speed i've seen in the bay area is 11.2mbps with t-mobile
Tmo gs2 in Baltimore I was getting about 10-12 mbps and on gnex in Baltimore I get about 6. Yeah its about half but its a lot faster than anything sprint has.
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Thanks guys. I am so close to getting one. Just really hard, even with how cheap tmobile is, my sprint is literary free. Like right now, at 2am, I am getting 1.3mbps on 3g, which is acceptable I guess.
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This is my speeds on the $30 5g monthly 4g plan. Pretty good for being in a valley. I know ATT has poor signal at my house.
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That 100 minutes total? With no nights and weekends or mobile to mobile?
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That 100 minutes total? With no nights and weekends or mobile to mobile?
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Yes. 100 minutes means 100 minutes. No frills.
My speeds are in the range of ~5-7mbps down / 2-4mbps up.
I had a GS2 and sold it for 330 on CL and bought this phone. I get the same data speeds on this phone as the GS2. Sure the GS2 can get 42 but I never broke 20 and I had the phone for a year. The only draw back with the nexus is the screen. I got a small scratch the first day I had it (hoping an xo skin will cover it up). I never had a protector on the S2 and never had a scratch. Go with the nexus you wont be disappointed.
I'd have to get the $70 plan, 100 minutes wouldn't cut it, nor 2g of data. Hmm, that means I'd have to pay $70 more than I so now.
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I'd have to get the $70 plan, 100 minutes wouldn't cut it, nor 2g of data. Hmm, that means I'd have to pay $70 more than I so now.
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So... you pay $0 for service now?
So does this phone (if bought from Google) work with my old tzones plan. I want to buy one but would like to be sure before spending $400. Thanks for the help.
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So... you pay $0 for service now?
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Yep lol
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I also have the Galaxy Nexus which I bought from Google a couple of days ago paired with T-Mobile's Monthly4G plan ($30 unlimited text/data + 100 minutes)
With the app called "talkatone", all you really need is unlimited data + google voice to get unlimited talk + texting services for free.
But currently, on this plan my speed is
about 3 Mbps up/down using XXLA2 baseband (which was the stock baseband installed on the phone when I got it from Google)
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Yep lol
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okay... so not sure why you're considering going anywhere else. Free service, as long as its somewhat usable, kinda trumps everything.
Im looking at the s2 and the s3 i live in Baltimore md. I know there is 4g winmx here because I had the galaxy s a long time ago on sprint. But im going back to sprint from boost because of the unlimited data. Well i was reading and the s3 says is just on 3g until LTE comes out. Well i wanted to know which is the better deal? Or when will lte come out? I had clear and was getting ****ty service in my area so i don't know if that was winmx or not.
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honestly I wouldnt take the S3 if I had a choice because there isn't too much of an upgrade over the S2, others might not think so but oh well, if u can get the s2 without a ck tract do so I'm waiting till next year to upgrade and grab the next best thing
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Im looking at the s2 and the s3 i live in Baltimore md. I know there is 4g winmx here because I had the galaxy s a long time ago on sprint. But im going back to sprint from boost because of the unlimited data. Well i was reading and the s3 says is just on 3g until LTE comes out. Well i wanted to know which is the better deal? Or when will lte come out? I had clear and was getting ****ty service in my area so i don't know if that was winmx or not.
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I also agree I would much rather have wimax then the slightly upgraded hardware. A lot of phone's are starting to make there way to quad core that is what I am really holding out for.
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There are a bunch of s2 being sold now
You should be able to get one cheap
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New contract with Sprint, go for the newer phone.
Just wanting to upgrade from another phone, save your upgrade, buy a cheap S2 off of Criagslist to hold you over.
Yeah I'm getting a new contract. I'm with boost now
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derrickmd18 said:
Yeah I'm getting a new contract. I'm with boost now
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Do this save yourself $50
http://wireless.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Android-Phone-Sprint/dp/B00894K248?tag=androidpolice-20
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If you don't want a contract, but want 4G WiMax and are on Boost, why not just go for the Evo Design 4G on Boost, http://www.boostmobilestore.com/bpdirect/boost/PhoneList.do?action=view&id=evodesign ?
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Im looking at the s2 and the s3 i live in Baltimore md. I know there is 4g winmx here because I had the galaxy s a long time ago on sprint. But im going back to sprint from boost because of the unlimited data. Well i was reading and the s3 says is just on 3g until LTE comes out. Well i wanted to know which is the better deal? Or when will lte come out? I had clear and was getting ****ty service in my area so i don't know if that was winmx or not.
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I'm Baltimore, Md but Yea both are cool but
Hold off until LTE availability. If everyone does this, it will make them work faster and harder to bring it to us. Plus, by that time, the price of your phone will likely be $99 vs. $199.
I went to a sprint store today. Tried to pay full price for s3. And customer service rep. Said that they can't sell phone without contact. Also went to best buy and radio Shack. And price w/o contract is 100 bucks more than retail
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Because after 2gb it's throttled to 3g.
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http://www.tmonews.com/2012/08/t-mo...unlimited-data-plan-thats-actually-unlimited/
At a time when Verizon and AT&T are charging more for Data, T-Mobile comes to the rescue with unlimited Data for $30 for Classic Plans and $20 for Value Plans.
<3 I am excited! I was actually considering switching to Sprint for truly unlimited data, but now that my beloved T-Mobile is getting it, I am never leaving!
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The unlimited data plan does not allow tethering. This is a quite reasonable limitation in my opinion but even so I am sure it will be bypassed on rooted phones by Sept. 7th.
Its almost TOO good to be true. But Tmo does take out the included HotSpot Tether (easy work around for us here tho ). This + the iPhone5/LTE (hopefully for Tmo's sake) + HEAVY marketing (including improved network toting & great prices) will bring new customers in droves. Tmo needs this combo punch for the holiday season.
Also, does anyone know how to only test the 1900 HSPA+ band on the GNex instead of AWS/1700 HSPA+? Tmo has been working on HSPA+ over their 1900 band for some months now, and I want to see if any towers in and around Seattle are enabled yet.
Have not been this excited about something from tmo in a long time. Still waiting for a catch, but damn this will be epic. I get unlimited through my dealer line anyway, but will be awesome for my wife.
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Why not go to boost mobile?
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johnnycooper said:
Why not go to boost mobile?
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They use sprint towers. I prefer speeds faster than old people f#&king.
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why not go to boost mobile?
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hahahahahaha. Piss poor network (Sprint). Have you seen their data speeds? Not even worth it.
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Why not go to boost mobile?
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Crappy speeds and terrible phones? 2 good reasons right there.
Must be different in the south. Gsm sucks compared to cdma. At one time gsm was the **** here and then it went to ****.
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My speeds are great!!! Average 20+. See my signature for one of my highest speed test.
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hahahahahaha. Piss poor network (Sprint). Have you seen their data speeds? Not even worth it.
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Crappy speeds and terrible phones? 2 good reasons right there.
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1.7 mb down on Sprint 3g is good enough for me. As far as phones, you have to clone to have a decent one besides the EVO 4g LTE
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Once my nightmare with sprint ends, I will definitely go back to Tmob. They have the best customer service IMHO.
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Dude, if you hate Sprint that much just root your phone and throw a Verizon prl on and just use it. Sprint will let you out of the contract for sure
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My speeds are great!!! Average 20+. See my signature for one of my highest speed test.
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I wasn't referring to their miniscule LTE network. I was talking about their horrible CDMA/EVDO network.
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Dude, if you hate Sprint that much just root your phone and throw a Verizon prl on and just use it. Sprint will let you out of the contract for sure
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My phone is all custom...I honestly thought about it before, just hate doing these kinda of things...I take responsibility for my mistakes..lol
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1.7 mb down on Sprint 3g is good enough for me. As far as phones, you have to clone to have a decent one besides the EVO 4g LTE
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Not good enough for heavier data users that watch HD videos, wants quick web browsing, wants to download files quickly, etc. 1.7mb is not enough.
Hell yea
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I guess you are right, I use WiFi more than 3g data because of battery life
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I guess you are right, I use WiFi more than 3g data because of battery life
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Great battery life using HSPA+ here.
I bought a gn2 unlocked off craigslist for $450.00 cash.
Purchased a solavei wireless sim card.
60 bucks a month no throttle after any amount of data used.
Great coverage averaged 14 mbps down. Hmm with speeds like these hard to see how sprint stays with these guys.
For the first time in years I have been thinking of bouncing. From sprint to another Carrier . The blazing data speeds have me mezmerized. Solavei rides on tmobiles network. But at that price it may be worth a switch.
Bought the 2nd gn2 for a work phone. Gonna wait and see if sprint builds out the lte network in my area. But it's sad when I go back to my sprint gn2 and speeds won't pay 512 kbps on average.
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Great more sprint 3g speed sucks thread. I often wonder how are these thread phone related.
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Great more sprint 3g speed sucks thread. I often wonder how are these thread phone related.
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I did the post just for you.
Honestly your best rebuttal would have been not to post.
Wasnt about how crappy sprints 3g is. But more about how fast tmobiles network is.
Been a sprint customer 15 years nothing new to me.
Hopefully the softbank acquisition helps Fix that.
And the post is phone related its a phone forum.
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probably stolen
Checked it with tmobile first
To make sure it was clean.
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HSUPA+ compared to EVDO lol. If HDUPA+ on tmobile was always 14-15mbs download then they would have no need to roll out LTE. Thing is HSUPA+ cant maintain that speed.
Uh... nvm I am not going to explain... congrats on your unlimited highspeed data through tmobile.
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HSUPA+ compared to EVDO lol. If HDUPA+ on tmobile was always 14-15mbs download then they would have no need to roll out LTE. Thing is HSUPA+ cant maintain that speed.
Uh... nvm I am not going to explain... congrats on your unlimited highspeed data through tmobile.
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HSPA+ ? Trust me even still in the dfw areas it's good averages 6 to 15Mbps. They don't need to roll out lte but normal consumers don't understand differences between 4g technology. And t mobile is truly using 3g but when pushed to its ultimate limits it hits 4g like speeds. But they don't people that obviously.but that's why gsm is so much better than cdma and other stuff too lol
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Thanks for the clarification
I appreciate the knowledge.
I'm also wondering when tmo gets the iphone. How much the network will suffer.
Just like the other carriers I presume.
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humdrum2009 said:
Thanks for the clarification
I appreciate the knowledge.
I'm also wondering when tmo gets the iphone. How much the network will suffer.
Just like the other carriers I presume.
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Is Tmobile still "unlimited" - 5-10GBs then throttled to hell or is it like Sprint's unlimited?
I have tmobile and one of their major slogans sort of is "the only truly unlimited data plan". Ive used like 30 gigs of data the month I have owned my note 2 and have never been throttled. Usually get around 27mb 19 down. I notice no change in speed.
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I have tmobile and one of their major slogans sort of is "the only truly unlimited data plan". Ive used like 30 gigs of data the month I have owned my note 2 and have never been throttled. Usually get around 27mb 19 down. I notice no change in speed.
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looks good in Atlanta
humdrum2009 said:
Thanks for the clarification
I appreciate the knowledge.
I'm also wondering when tmo gets the iphone. How much the network will suffer.
Just like the other carriers I presume.
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Only through being unlocked with SIM card.last time I checked.
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Is Tmobile still "unlimited" - 5-10GBs then throttled to hell or is it like Sprint's unlimited?
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No they have a plan that's 5 and 10Gb with hotspot that's throttled but if you get the unlimited 4g plan it's cheaper and better setting how we can all get hotspot for free.
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If Sprint were to release EvDo RevB or even RevC, it'd pull speeds of up to 30mbps, too. Problem is, lte becoming the new standard, it'll evolve the fastest and its cost efficient for Sprint in the long run (also cost efficient for any carrier.) This is why everyone's going to lte.
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I didn't start this to bash sprint just amazed a Tmo data speed.
I still have my sprint account with 2 lines
I'll end up selling the tmo note 2 sooner or later. I am really looking forward to Sprints new owners making major changes. Hopefully we. Get 1 year. Upgrades back. That kept me on sprint
Despite slow data and the plans $$$
But. Being A Japanese. Company I'm. Wondering if these. Guys. Have gsm plans in the future.
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I didn't start this to bash sprint just amazed a Tmo data speed.
I still have my sprint account with 2 lines
I'll end up selling the tmo note 2 sooner or later. I am really looking forward to Sprints new owners making major changes. Hopefully we. Get 1 year. Upgrades back. That kept me on sprint
Despite slow data and the plans $$$
But. Being A Japanese. Company I'm. Wondering if these. Guys. Have gsm plans in the future.
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Actually, I think softbank is a CDMA Carrier. I could be wrong though.
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GSM certainly has its advantages, that's why I was with T-mobile previously. The HSPA is getting pretty fast at it's peak, but there are so many times when you don't get those numbers if you are in a heavily used area.
Having said that, I switched to Sprint because they are implementing the next wave of GSM (READ: LTE-A) before T-mobile will be finished with their GSM network (Read: HSPA+42)
I have not had 4g working on my Epic at all unless I was all the way on the other side of town. Now I know for a fact that LTE is not in my area but for the hell of it I activated my old LG Viper LTE and what do you know, I have constant 16 meg download on 4g. Anyone here that might have an idea of why this is? I really want to use my epic but wow this 4g stuff is nice too.
the 4G in our phone is on the wimax network, not LTE
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I 100 percent understand that, that's the reason I was confused because sprint has not setup lte here yet.
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I 100 percent understand that, that's the reason I was confused because sprint has not setup lte here yet.
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Maybe they have and didn't tell you lol
Maybe you got lucky and caught them during a trial period lol. Or your roaming on another lte network but idk if that's possible or not. some one else could clarify if it is possible
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Maybe you got lucky and caught them during a trial period lol. Or your roaming on another lte network but idk if that's possible or not. some one else could clarify if it is possible
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No I don't think that's possible... I'm pretty sure that Sprint and Verizon (or anybody else) would use the same frequencies for their 4G... they want it to stay fast... trial period is most likely
This Network Vision thing Sprint has been talking about is real. Lots of new LTE towers up recently all over the country. And no there is no 4g roaming between carriers.
4g LTE roaming is not possible between any of the carriers.
ATT LTE uses low 700mhz block & in the future, some AWS and WCS.
Vz LTE uses upper 700mhz block & in the future, AWS.
T-mobile LTE is AWS
Sprint LTE is PCS 1900/ SMR 800 / BRS-EBS 2.5/2.6ghz
I will give sprint a call tomorrow and ask because I need to know if I need to get a good lte phone. Can't even get any 4g on this phone.
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I will give sprint a call tomorrow and ask because I need to know if I need to get a good lte phone. Can't even get any 4g on this phone.
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Yeah Wimax is spotty at best
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I 100 percent understand that, that's the reason I was confused because sprint has not setup lte here yet.
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It could be up and not announce it yet. Same as Here in my area (Arecibo PR) LTE is up and running but not officially announced. Even if you call CS they will negate it's up. Only officially available west of PR.
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Just use sensorly and open signal it'll show you exactly where towers are and their broadcast bands (1x, 3g, lte, wimax) and coverage range
I like to break stuff!
It has been confirmed by sprint that lte is in my area and 3 more towers are still being worked on. Just ordered my G Nexus.
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bigblue4life said:
It has been confirmed by sprint that lte is in my area and 3 more towers are still being worked on. Just ordered my G Nexus.
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Shoulda got an s3 or note 2 the gNex is old as dirt in phone age
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Shoulda got an s3 or note 2 the gNex is old as dirt in phone age
I like to break stuff!
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G Nex is a great phone. 3 friends here have one and there is nothing old about it.
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G Nex is a great phone. 3 friends here have one and there is nothing old about it.
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Except it came out 9 months ago and the nexus 4 has already replaced it. Its got a weak camera, low RAM, poor display and did I mention it's old. If it was any phone but a nexus it wouldn't be getting updated anymore and headed for EOL, which it will be EOL less than halfway thru your new contract
I like to break stuff!
My wife has a nexus. Its not bad but it came out before the e4gt. Hers is the verizon version. It does run good for having inferior cpu. Lte radio is a plus. No gorilla glass! Shes shattered 2. Overall great phone just lacks features from s3, but its basically free now. Lte is being built in my town now. So maybe few months and its live letd hope s4 is out.
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Except it came out 9 months ago and the nexus 4 has already replaced it. Its got a weak camera, low RAM, poor display and did I mention it's old. If it was any phone but a nexus it wouldn't be getting updated anymore and headed for EOL, which it will be EOL less than halfway thru your new contract
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I agree with you I dont see the reason of getting that phone unless you got it free without upgrading your contract lol. My co worker still has his and geez it kinda suck to me volume is to low and the screen aint all that but hey guess as long as its a google phone it get plays.
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