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[SGH-T989] Samsung Hercules AWS 1700/2100 also offered by Rogers Canada

it's being advertised as Samsung Galaxy S II LTE smartphone
http://www.rogerslte.com/new-lte-devices/smartphone-and-tablet#htctablet
while the Telus version is named 4G Samsung Galaxy S II X which in fact they are both the same phone Samsung Galaxy S II Hercules, or better known as SGH-T989, previously covered in this article http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1264874
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Spec as per Roger's site:
- AWS for connectivity on the Rogers LTE network
- Tri-band HSPA+/Quad-band EDGE for connectivity on the Rogers 4G HSPA+ network and international roaming
- Dual-core 1.5 GHz processor
- 4.5” WVGA Super AMOLED Plus touchscreen (480x800)
- Android 2.3 operating system
- 1GB RAM; 16GB internal memory
- 8MP rear camera with flash, 2MP front facing camera
- $199.99 with a 3-year hardware discount agreement ($649.99 No-term)

AllGamer said:
it's being advertised as Samsung Galaxy S II LTE smartphone
http://www.rogerslte.com/new-lte-devices/smartphone-and-tablet#htctablet
while the Telus version is named 4G Samsung Galaxy S II X which in fact they are both the same phone Samsung Galaxy S II Hercules, or better known as SGH-T989, previously covered in this article http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1264874
Spec as per Roger's site:
- AWS for connectivity on the Rogers LTE network
- Tri-band HSPA+/Quad-band EDGE for connectivity on the Rogers 4G HSPA+ network and international roaming
- Dual-core 1.5 GHz processor
- 4.5” WVGA Super AMOLED Plus touchscreen (480x800)
- Android 2.3 operating system
- 1GB RAM; 16GB internal memory
- 8MP rear camera with flash, 2MP front facing camera
- $199.99 with a 3-year hardware discount agreement ($649.99 No-term)
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If I buy this is there any way to sim unlock it?

The only problem is that this phone probably doesn't support HSPA 1700 band, so can't be used on T-Mobile, Mobilicity, Wind.
Althought it uses AWS, but that's LTE AWS, not HSPA AWS, not the same AWS that T-Mobile/Mobilicity/Wind uses.

and we found out the signal used it's actually different the normal AWS band was 800, and LTE was using the normal AWS bands

AllGamer said:
and we found out the signal used it's actually different the normal AWS band was 800, and LTE was using the normal AWS bands
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Any idea on how to unlock the SGS2 LTE from Rogers? Is it sim unlockable?
Is it the same as At&T SGS2? or more like the T-mobile SGS2?

as mentioned earlier it's the same Hercules design, just using a different radio
so, yes you can get it SIM unlocked

My understanding is that this phone has:
GSM: quad band
WCDMA: 900, 1900, 2100, (no 1700)
LTE: 800 (AWS)
So it means it can't be used on T-Mobile. Am I right?

get the Telus or Tmobile version if you want to use it on Mobilicity, WIND or the quebec one... forgot name

AllGamer said:
get the Telus or Tmobile version if you want to use it on Mobilicity, WIND or the quebec one... forgot name
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Videotron in Quebec!
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LOL thanks yeah, that's the one i was trying to name

Haha, just goes to show how big a competitor they are to Wind and Mobilicity..

LTE capabilities?

Just installed Kies for drivers and noticed two of the drivers say LTE. Anybody else notice this? Probably nothing but sort of weird.

i'm sure it's a generic name in reference to HSPA+ / LTE basically in reference to 4G

Ooook, not trying to beat a dead horse here but found some more interesting stuff. First, gsmarena posted news about an upcoming LTE Samsung device for AT&T which looks eerily similar to the Hecules with 1.5ghz dual-core processor. Link-->http://www.gsmarena.com/lteenabled_htc_vivid_and_samsung_galaxy_s_ii_skyrocket_hit_at_t-news-3335.php
Next, if you use short code *#2263# on our phones it gives you a band selection menu which includes LTE bands. I know the presence of these menus doesn't necessarily mean the bands are included but I don't remember seeing these in my Vibrant.
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T mobile might end up rolling out LTE, hopefully we get a update that will allow us to connect to it.
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iloveandroid16 said:
T mobile might end up rolling out LTE, hopefully we get a update that will allow us to connect to it.
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but I thought LTE was 4g?

iloveandroid16 said:
T mobile might end up rolling out LTE, hopefully we get a update that will allow us to connect to it.
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Actually, my theory is the Hercules and the Skyrocket are the same save for some slight cosmetic differences. Meaning our phone may be LTE capable but the bands are currently locked out.

Very interesting...
I would be thrilled if our phone actually physically supports LTE.
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reocej said:
Ooook, not trying to beat a dead horse here but found some more interesting stuff. First, gsmarena posted news about an upcoming LTE Samsung device for AT&T which looks eerily similar to the Hecules with 1.5ghz dual-core processor. Link-->http://www.gsmarena.com/lteenabled_htc_vivid_and_samsung_galaxy_s_ii_skyrocket_hit_at_t-news-3335.php
Next, if you use short code *#2263# on our phones it gives you a band selection menu which includes LTE bands. I know the presence of these menus doesn't necessarily mean the bands are included but I don't remember seeing these in my Vibrant.
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And thanks for teaching me how to get to the "BAND" menu.

reocej said:
Ooook, not trying to beat a dead horse here but found some more interesting stuff. First, gsmarena posted news about an upcoming LTE Samsung device for AT&T which looks eerily similar to the Hecules with 1.5ghz dual-core processor. Link-->http://www.gsmarena.com/lteenabled_..._galaxy_s_ii_skyrocket_hit_at_t-news-3335.php
Next, if you use short code *#2263# on our phones it gives you a band selection menu which includes LTE bands. I know the presence of these menus doesn't necessarily mean the bands are included but I don't remember seeing these in my Vibrant.
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ok so based on what i just saw under wcdma it shows bands 850 900 1700 1900 and 2100 but doesnt actually select the all of those bands. When i tried it i could get on every band except for 900.
a * shows up on the band that you select. But when you select 900 it doesnt show a * after going back in the menu. Just shows the previously selected band. Same goes for the lte bands.
So i think that it shows all possible bands that other varients of the phone can connect to probably because of the same software but those bands arent actually on this phone
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rodolfo7171 said:
ok so based on what i just saw under wcdma it shows bands 850 900 1700 1900 and 2100 but doesnt actually select the all of those bands. When i tried it i could get on every band except for 900.
a * shows up on the band that you select. But when you select 900 it doesnt show a * after going back in the menu. Just shows the previously selected band. Same goes for the lte bands.
So i think that it shows all possible bands that other varients of the phone can connect to probably because of the same software but those bands arent actually on this phone
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You are right. On the box of this phone it says it supports 850 1700 1900 2100 but no 900, and the fact that you can't select 900 in that software agrees with this. So not being able to select any LTE bands is a good indication that this phone doesn't physically support it.

Getting LTE to Work on Note 2 N7100 on ATT (Help!)

Okay, I just got a Note 2 N7100, I was using an iphone 4 before and basically swaped out the sims and HSPA + is working and I can make calls etc. However LTE is not showing up.
When I check network discovery there are two ATT networks the one lets me connect without any issues second one doesn't. So What can I do here to enable LTE ?
Thanks

N7100 is 3G/hspa+ only
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Um..
If you just google search the N7100 it says LTE 700mhz/2100mhz band
The N7105 should be the none LTE version Even on engadget.com/2012/09/12/galaxy-note-2-fcc/ N7105 = None LTE version

ATT uses 1700/2100 LTE. See something missing?
Besides, I'm pretty sure no country outside of the US uses the same bands for LTE that ATT uses.
The ATT iPhone 5 does not work on LTE outside of the US either.

IF ATT uses 1700/2100 then
Wi-Fi (802.11a/b/g/n)
Bluetooth 4.0 technology
Model for AT&T: 4G LTE (700, 2100 MHz)3; UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
Model for Verizon: 4G LTE (700 MHz)3; CDMA EV-DO Rev. A (800, 1900 MHz); UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
Data only4
Taken directly from Apple's Ipad 3 4G Site
States 700/2100 So...

Not only that, the LTE chip is not there. Germany has it but it will not work on ATT. Anyway, who cares? I have 3G now and it works fine for me. I can live without LTE.

Pretty sure the bands are different for the international version vs the us version which is why it wasn't a world release.

So wait now the n7100 doesn't have lte chip? It's not about who cares it was stated it did when I purchased the unit. So yeah.. everyone screams it has it so what's the real deal now

It does have LTE but on a band which is used on a different carrier. It's like unlocking an iPhone and putting it on tmobile. You will only have 2g service because tmobile uses a band different than AT&T for their 3G which isn't compatible with the phone.

No LTE for USA .mmm Yah , guess once its bought most will settle and argue that "I dont use it" or "I don't need it". Keep convincing yourself the $700+ was worth the jump. Check the shootout and spec vids happenin. This "update" is like the 4 to 4s iphone. Note 3 will be the upgrade.
Still rocking the N7000/i5 combo
Last few Iphone 4 then galaxy Note Intl version running 4.04 with Speedmod rom, now i5. Note 2 Pass. <flame suit initiated>

In other words if you go to the UK or where ever you purchased the phone from you will have LTE there. But not on AT&T unless they use the same frequency as whatever carriers are overseas.

But the Band support is ATT's Bands?? It's not a different band ATT uses 700/2100 And the N7100 Supports 700/2100
When I search for networks I spot 2 separate ATT networks one I can connect to but the other won't let me.

N-7100 - 4G Network - LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 2100
I717 - 4G Network - LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 1700 / 2100
Do you have an AT&T LTE data plan and LTE sim card?

Here's the plan I have for ATT
It's the Iphone 4 (3G) Unlimited (Grand fathered in with 3g sim card not 4g) Originally from my iphone 4
It could explain the other ATT network it picks up and won't let me connect could be the 4g and I'm on the 3G sim/Plan from good old Unlimited Days?

Nyxagamemnon said:
So the 1700 is missing from the 1700/2100 so that's the kicker isn't it. hum.
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That, or whoever sold it to you lied and it doesn't have an LTE chip

So Do you need a 4G Sim and Plan to use 4G?
I figured since the device supported it I'd pop in my Iphone 4(3G Sim) Grandfathered in on the Unlimited Data plan into the phone and Get 4G. But The device picks up 2 separate ATT networks but I can only connect to 1

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These are 4G LTE sim cards

CreepyDroid said:
N7100 is 3G/hspa+ only
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Are sure 3g network works on the Note II in the US?

Nyxagamemnon said:
So Do you need a 4G Sim and Plan to use 4G?
I figured since the device supported it I'd pop in my Iphone 4(3G Sim) Grandfathered in on the Unlimited Data plan into the phone and Get 4G. But The device picks up 2 separate ATT networks but I can only connect to 1
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Umm... Of course you need LTE plan and sim card to get LTE service working. You don't put dvd in blu-ray player and expect blu-ray quality, do you? =p
Anyways, even if change your plan and sim I doubt you will be able to connect LTE. On the brighter side, once you switch to LTE you won't get throttled until 5gb data usage. =)
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Yes 3G works on the Note 2 I stuck my old 3G Sim blue one in there it's on HSPA+, I'm going to go get a ATT 4G sim card and see what happens.
The specs say it supports ATT 4G LTE network.
Will update

Thinking of buying a ZL, a few questions

I'm considering purchasing the Xperia ZL for use on both AT&T and T-Mobile. My question is, does the LTE work on both networks? Also, is the LTE model that much faster than the 6502 model? How's battery life between them? Etc?
Basically, what's the pros and cons of 6502/6506?

Here are Variant of Xperia Zl
ryude said:
I'm considering purchasing the Xperia ZL for use on both AT&T and T-Mobile. My question is, does the LTE work on both networks? Also, is the LTE model that much faster than the 6502 model? How's battery life between them? Etc?
Basically, what's the pros and cons of 6502/6506?
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Some Comparison between Networks are here Check which one suits you, and for Battery as we all know its varies user to user......
The Rest of the Specs are Same on all Three Variants/
Xperia ZL C6502/L35H Fact Sheet
It's a HSPA+ version of Xperia ZL
Sensors
Accelerometer
Pressure Sensor ( only in C6502 - but according to some People its not present or May be not working Properly)
Proximity Sensor
Magnetometer
Gyroscope
Networks
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I)
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900
Data Transfer Speeds
GSM GPRS ~ Up to 70.4 kbps (download). Up to 70.4 kbps (upload)
GSM EDGE ~ Up to 236.8 kbps (download). Up to 236.8 kbps (upload)
UMTS HSPA cat 24(download) ~ Up to 42 Mbps
UMTS HSPA cat 6 (upload) ~ Up to 5.76 Mbps
Xperia Zl C6503 Fact Sheet
It's the LTE version of Xperia ZL
Sensors
Accelerometer
Proximity Sensor
Magnetometer
Gyroscope
Networks :
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 2100 (Band I) GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900
LTE Band I, Band III, Band V, Band VII, Band VIII and Band XX
Data Transfer Speeds
GSM & HSPA data transfer are same as HSPA+ version C6502
LTE CAT 3 (download) ~ Up to 102 Mbps
LTE CAT 3 (upload) ~ Up to 51 Mbps
Xperia Zl C6506 Fact Sheet
It's the another LTE variant of Xperia Zl
Sensors
Accelerometer
Proximity Sensor
Magnetometer
Gyroscop
Networks :
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I)
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900
LTE Band I, Band II, Band IV, Band V and Band XVII
Data Transfer Speed
GSM & HSPA data transfer are same as HSPA+ version C6502
LTE CAT 3 (download) ~ Up to 102 Mbps
LTE CAT 3 (upload) ~ Up to 51 Mbps
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U need to buy zl c6506 version
That working on tmobile or att LTE network
I think if u r on LTE network ur phone battery
Will drain fast that for sure.

Thanks guys, I ordered the C6506 from newegg.

ryude said:
Thanks guys, I ordered the C6506 from newegg.
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When you order from NewEgg:
- Is it the US version - unlocked - with warranty?
- How much did you pay for it?
I am curious because Sony US Store also sells teh Xperia Z C6506 - unlocked - for $759. I am contemplating buying straight from Sony because I got burned buying international version of the phone and they're both dead (no US warranty) - Samsung Note II with SDS (Sudden Death Syndrome) issue.
Here the link

lanwarrior said:
When you order from NewEgg:
- Is it the US version - unlocked - with warranty?
- How much did you pay for it?
I am curious because Sony US Store also sells teh Xperia Z C6506 - unlocked - for $759. I am contemplating buying straight from Sony because I got burned buying international version of the phone and they're both dead (no US warranty) - Samsung Note II with SDS (Sudden Death Syndrome) issue.
Here the link
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It is US version, unlocked, with Sony 1 yr warranty. I paid $589.99. I get free shipping because I use ShopRunner.
http://promotions.newegg.com/Sony/13-1435/index.html
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For the Z, this is the only version Newegg carries at this time: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875212248
Warranty
Limited Warranty period (parts): 1 year
Limited Warranty period (labor): 1 year
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Not like it will influence your purchase since you already bought one, but I use the C6506 on AT&T's LTE and get really decent download rates 44kbps to 29kbps ish with really no greater battery drain that I can see. It practically smokes my SGS3's battery life on LTE.

betsuni said:
Not like it will influence your purchase since you already bought one, but I use the C6506 on AT&T's LTE and get really decent download rates 44kbps to 29kbps ish with really no greater battery drain that I can see. It practically smokes my SGS3's battery life on LTE.
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I'll be using the phone on both networks, although T-Mobile does not have LTE in my area yet. Still, I plan to test speeds on both networks and I'll post them up.

ryude said:
I'll be using the phone on both networks, although T-Mobile does not have LTE in my area yet. Still, I plan to test speeds on both networks and I'll post them up.
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One of the nice things about this phone giving the ability to switch between the two like this.:laugh: Gives us consumers a bit more power at least.

Will ASUS ZenFone 2 ZE500CL 4G LTE work on Verizon's network?

Hey guys, hoping that someone can help me out here. I am a long Verizon Galaxy Nexus user and am ready to retire it, but keep my unlimited data. My question is will this phone work on Verizon's network. Can someone shed some insight on this, because I'm ready for the upgrade.
http://www.amazon.com/ZenFone-Singl...qid=1427931967&sr=1-2&keywords=asus+zenfone+2

If you get a 4G LTE sim card, it should work, but you will not be able to fall back on Verizon's CDMA network.

alose said:
If you get a 4G LTE sim card, it should work, but you will not be able to fall back on Verizon's CDMA network.
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Appreciate the quick response! You say I won't be able to fall back to Verizons CDMA (3G) network, but looking at the description of the phone it has all of Verizons CDMA capabilities.
Single-SIM；3G WCDMA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100；4G LTE 700 / 900 / 1800 (FDD 3, 8, 28)
Also, isn't it true that Verizon plans on moving to pure LTE?

http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/nso/enterDeviceId.do?&zipRdr=y
I checked my Asus Zenfone 2 and Verizon says not compatible.
I will say, I have been very happy on T-Mobile.

alose said:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/nso/enterDeviceId.do?&zipRdr=y
I checked my Asus Zenfone 2 and Verizon says not compatible.
I will say, I have been very happy on T-Mobile.
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Does the phone utilize the 700mhz band with t-mobile?
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jvs60 said:
Does the phone utilize the 700mhz band with t-mobile?
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No band 12 from what I see.

TheYoz said:
Appreciate the quick response! You say I won't be able to fall back to Verizons CDMA (3G) network, but looking at the description of the phone it has all of Verizons CDMA capabilities.
Single-SIM；3G WCDMA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100；4G LTE 700 / 900 / 1800 (FDD 3, 8, 28)
Also, isn't it true that Verizon plans on moving to pure LTE?
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WCDMA is NOT the same as CDMA.
It's confusing, but let me explain.
3G (or UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+) uses technology that is based on CDMA..but it's called Wideband CDMA (WCDMA)...whereas Sprint and Verizon just use "regular" CDMA.....so this phone WILL NOT WORK with Verizon CDMA.

So with active Sim can use the zenfone 2 on Verizon. But no service in 3g areas?

CravinR1 said:
So with active Sim can use the zenfone 2 on Verizon. But no service in 3g areas?
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no, I bought one without thinking about compatability, put my SIM card in, it recognized the card but it would not find service. The device had a 'network finder' in settings and found ATT, but not VZ. I called up support to see if there was ANY way to make it work, no. The ZF2 will not work at all on Verizon. Had to ship it back... :crying:

ZenFone2 (ZE551ML) will work on GSM carrier's networks in North America. However, CDMA carriers such as Verizon and Sprint do not work with this device. The 2 major GSM carriers here in the USA are AT&T and T-Mobile. For more info please see our FAQ and Zenfone Quick Service support sites:
http://www.asus.com/us/Phones/ZenFone_2_ZE551ML/HelpDesk/
http://www.asus.com/us/support/self-service/11/
Sincerely,
ASUS_USA

_https://apn.gishan.net/settings/962_13_verizon_apn_settings_for_asus_zenfone_2.php_
I don't have one of these handsets so I cannot confirm this will solve radio programming problems this device probably exhibits. The problem with affordable great phones is they hamper Verizon's other handsets and therefore threaten the business model. Sad times, but this is what has me waiting patiently for the market of blok phones to appear.

Bog4rt said:
_https://apn.gishan.net/settings/962_13_verizon_apn_settings_for_asus_zenfone_2.php_
I don't have one of these handsets so I cannot confirm this will solve radio programming problems this device probably exhibits. The problem with affordable great phones is they hamper Verizon's other handsets and therefore threaten the business model. Sad times, but this is what has me waiting patiently for the market of blok phones to appear.
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I can almost guarantee that 4g lte won't work since this is a gsm phone.
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TheYoz said:
Hey guys, hoping that someone can help me out here. I am a long Verizon Galaxy Nexus user and am ready to retire it, but keep my unlimited data. My question is will this phone work on Verizon's network. Can someone shed some insight on this, because I'm ready for the upgrade.
http://www.amazon.com/ZenFone-Singl...qid=1427931967&sr=1-2&keywords=asus+zenfone+2
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I just got a ZF2 and I'm currently on AT&T, but when I search networks this is what I get. Just thought I'd share
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Man i really hate Verizon! However i live in the middle of nowhere and Verizon is the only service we can use. Verizon never gets any good phones or if it does it makes sure it pressures the manufacturer into locking them down.

It's not just about the phones being locked but CDMA and GSM using different hardware and software. Most of the LTE phones sold by Verizon and Sprint are unlocked however you still need correct hardware and software to make it work on GSM networks. To say nothing of the least of making sure you have the correct bands.
If you're wanting this phone because of its dual sim, you need to pass. This phone used subpar and outdated hardware on Sim 2 and is firmware blocked for data using only 2G for voice/text. 2G is already being shut down by AT&T in the states and T-Mobile is following. This "Flagship" dual sim phone is actually going to be a single sim phone for those of us in the states in about a year. I got suckered and am now looking for another phone. There are plenty of companies out there offering up to date hardware at the same price.