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[SGH-T989] Samsung Hercules AWS 1700/2100 also offered by Rogers Canada

it's being advertised as Samsung Galaxy S II LTE smartphone
http://www.rogerslte.com/new-lte-devices/smartphone-and-tablet#htctablet
while the Telus version is named 4G Samsung Galaxy S II X which in fact they are both the same phone Samsung Galaxy S II Hercules, or better known as SGH-T989, previously covered in this article http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1264874
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Spec as per Roger's site:
- AWS for connectivity on the Rogers LTE network
- Tri-band HSPA+/Quad-band EDGE for connectivity on the Rogers 4G HSPA+ network and international roaming
- Dual-core 1.5 GHz processor
- 4.5” WVGA Super AMOLED Plus touchscreen (480x800)
- Android 2.3 operating system
- 1GB RAM; 16GB internal memory
- 8MP rear camera with flash, 2MP front facing camera
- $199.99 with a 3-year hardware discount agreement ($649.99 No-term)

AllGamer said:
it's being advertised as Samsung Galaxy S II LTE smartphone
http://www.rogerslte.com/new-lte-devices/smartphone-and-tablet#htctablet
while the Telus version is named 4G Samsung Galaxy S II X which in fact they are both the same phone Samsung Galaxy S II Hercules, or better known as SGH-T989, previously covered in this article http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1264874
Spec as per Roger's site:
- AWS for connectivity on the Rogers LTE network
- Tri-band HSPA+/Quad-band EDGE for connectivity on the Rogers 4G HSPA+ network and international roaming
- Dual-core 1.5 GHz processor
- 4.5” WVGA Super AMOLED Plus touchscreen (480x800)
- Android 2.3 operating system
- 1GB RAM; 16GB internal memory
- 8MP rear camera with flash, 2MP front facing camera
- $199.99 with a 3-year hardware discount agreement ($649.99 No-term)
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If I buy this is there any way to sim unlock it?

The only problem is that this phone probably doesn't support HSPA 1700 band, so can't be used on T-Mobile, Mobilicity, Wind.
Althought it uses AWS, but that's LTE AWS, not HSPA AWS, not the same AWS that T-Mobile/Mobilicity/Wind uses.

and we found out the signal used it's actually different the normal AWS band was 800, and LTE was using the normal AWS bands

AllGamer said:
and we found out the signal used it's actually different the normal AWS band was 800, and LTE was using the normal AWS bands
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Any idea on how to unlock the SGS2 LTE from Rogers? Is it sim unlockable?
Is it the same as At&T SGS2? or more like the T-mobile SGS2?

as mentioned earlier it's the same Hercules design, just using a different radio
so, yes you can get it SIM unlocked

My understanding is that this phone has:
GSM: quad band
WCDMA: 900, 1900, 2100, (no 1700)
LTE: 800 (AWS)
So it means it can't be used on T-Mobile. Am I right?

get the Telus or Tmobile version if you want to use it on Mobilicity, WIND or the quebec one... forgot name

AllGamer said:
get the Telus or Tmobile version if you want to use it on Mobilicity, WIND or the quebec one... forgot name
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Videotron in Quebec!
Sent from my SGH-T989D using xda premium

LOL thanks yeah, that's the one i was trying to name

Haha, just goes to show how big a competitor they are to Wind and Mobilicity..

this is the best news for all T-MOBILE customers ever.

soon we won't have to go through all the nonsense, not having the right bands for our phones.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/23/t-mobile-lost-more-customers-in-q4-will-launch-lte-in-2013-with/

Never thought I'd see the day I would actually be able to use my Nokia E63 on 3G bands...its only 5 years late lol.
Now I'm a bit confused...if they use the AWS band for LTE, what about our phones that use AWS for HSPA+?

Our phone doesn't support att's lte but it does support 1900mhz 3g/4g
Newer Tmo phones will have lte most likely
Sent from my SGH-T989 using xda premium

zander21510 said:
Never thought I'd see the day I would actually be able to use my Nokia E63 on 3G bands...its only 5 years late lol.
Now I'm a bit confused...if they use the AWS band for LTE, what about our phones that use AWS for HSPA+?
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The phones will probably use multiple bands at the same time ... hspa+ on one and LTE on another. Right now our SGS2 gets dual band hspa+

Cool deal. Although the best news ever for me, as a T-mobile customer, would be something along the lines of "Dear Loyal 10 year T-mobile customer, we are proud to inform you that your bill will be FREE forever, thank you for your continued loyalty."

I was thinking that T-Mobile have a sharing agreement with Sprint with in regards to LTE. I'm liking this plan much better with finally joining other 3G phones. I'm probably going to pick up an old 3 unlocked phone as a back up now in the near future.
Sent from my Galaxy SII

guys... you do know that LTE data packets are not the same as 3G data right?
so even if they are on 1900 radio frequency it does not mean they can get 3G 1900 on LTE 1900 and vice versa
the guy that wrote that piece of engadget was totally wrong in assuming that

yeah...I've owned a few phones, my E63 never received 3G under Tmo, it was a UMTS 850 / 1900 device, it worked with AT&T just fine. My N1 and NS were HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100; both supposedly only compatible with T-Mo's AWS. And our t989 is HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100...working with both Tmo and ATT's 3g UMTS/HSDPA/HSPA+.
LTE is a completely different technology by my understanding...if they use the AWS band for LTE...phones like the Nexus S and One would cease to work on 3g, correct?

zander21510 said:
LTE is a completely different technology by my understanding...if they use the AWS band for LTE...phones like the Nexus S and One would cease to work on 3g, correct?
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using your assumption
if they use AWS band 1700 + 2100 for LTE like they are doing in Canada (Rogers, Bell, Telus) then yes, it will mean AWS phones made for HSPA 1700 / 2100 will not work on those 3 networks
because the technology is different, and thus data packets are different, even if they are on the same radio frequency
luckily in the case of the SGH-i727 counter part of our phone, is enough to flash it with the correct modem to get HSPA AWS instead of LTE AWS
however the case with the 1900 LTE frequency, does not enable current 1900 HSPA phones to work on LTE

This is a double edged sword. It will draw 10's of thousands, if not 100's of thousands of iPhones users to T-Mo with the promise of cheaper plans. Then they will congest the network, T-Mo will raise prices to increase bandwidth and we all loose out.

Don't our T989's have LTE ready to go (for the most part)? I am trying to upload a screenshot but xda is saying it has an improper file extension... *#2263#
Angstig gepost van mijn Galaxy SII

Yes! Now i will be able to purchase and use international phones. Great news!
Sent from my SGH-T989 using XDA App

gallaxxeess said:
This is a double edged sword. It will draw 10's of thousands, if not 100's of thousands of iPhones users to T-Mo with the promise of cheaper plans. Then they will congest the network, T-Mo will raise prices to increase bandwidth and we all loose out.
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but if it means I can download faster than 2mbs consistently and our 3g will be compatible with the rest of the world.... awesome

hompsar said:
Don't our T989's have LTE ready to go (for the most part)? I am trying to upload a screenshot but xda is saying it has an improper file extension... *#2263#
Angstig gepost van mijn Galaxy SII
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no LTE is only build in on the i727 our T989 is missing the LTE chip, the i727 can run AWS when flashed with a proper Tmo radio
ugotproblemz said:
Yes! Now i will be able to purchase and use international phones. Great news!
Sent from my SGH-T989 using XDA App
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no, world phones are not compatible unless they have AWS 1700
jessejames111981 said:
but if it means I can download faster than 2mbs consistently and our 3g will be compatible with the rest of the world.... awesome
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there will be no iPhones in Tmo until they release an AWS 1700 version of it, if ever

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Sorry, but that LTE menu is false hope. It's been researched.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1417095

Getting LTE to Work on Note 2 N7100 on ATT (Help!)

Okay, I just got a Note 2 N7100, I was using an iphone 4 before and basically swaped out the sims and HSPA + is working and I can make calls etc. However LTE is not showing up.
When I check network discovery there are two ATT networks the one lets me connect without any issues second one doesn't. So What can I do here to enable LTE ?
Thanks

N7100 is 3G/hspa+ only
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Um..
If you just google search the N7100 it says LTE 700mhz/2100mhz band
The N7105 should be the none LTE version Even on engadget.com/2012/09/12/galaxy-note-2-fcc/ N7105 = None LTE version

ATT uses 1700/2100 LTE. See something missing?
Besides, I'm pretty sure no country outside of the US uses the same bands for LTE that ATT uses.
The ATT iPhone 5 does not work on LTE outside of the US either.

IF ATT uses 1700/2100 then
Wi-Fi (802.11a/b/g/n)
Bluetooth 4.0 technology
Model for AT&T: 4G LTE (700, 2100 MHz)3; UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
Model for Verizon: 4G LTE (700 MHz)3; CDMA EV-DO Rev. A (800, 1900 MHz); UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
Data only4
Taken directly from Apple's Ipad 3 4G Site
States 700/2100 So...

Not only that, the LTE chip is not there. Germany has it but it will not work on ATT. Anyway, who cares? I have 3G now and it works fine for me. I can live without LTE.

Pretty sure the bands are different for the international version vs the us version which is why it wasn't a world release.

So wait now the n7100 doesn't have lte chip? It's not about who cares it was stated it did when I purchased the unit. So yeah.. everyone screams it has it so what's the real deal now

It does have LTE but on a band which is used on a different carrier. It's like unlocking an iPhone and putting it on tmobile. You will only have 2g service because tmobile uses a band different than AT&T for their 3G which isn't compatible with the phone.

No LTE for USA .mmm Yah , guess once its bought most will settle and argue that "I dont use it" or "I don't need it". Keep convincing yourself the $700+ was worth the jump. Check the shootout and spec vids happenin. This "update" is like the 4 to 4s iphone. Note 3 will be the upgrade.
Still rocking the N7000/i5 combo
Last few Iphone 4 then galaxy Note Intl version running 4.04 with Speedmod rom, now i5. Note 2 Pass. <flame suit initiated>

In other words if you go to the UK or where ever you purchased the phone from you will have LTE there. But not on AT&T unless they use the same frequency as whatever carriers are overseas.

But the Band support is ATT's Bands?? It's not a different band ATT uses 700/2100 And the N7100 Supports 700/2100
When I search for networks I spot 2 separate ATT networks one I can connect to but the other won't let me.

N-7100 - 4G Network - LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 2100
I717 - 4G Network - LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 1700 / 2100
Do you have an AT&T LTE data plan and LTE sim card?

Here's the plan I have for ATT
It's the Iphone 4 (3G) Unlimited (Grand fathered in with 3g sim card not 4g) Originally from my iphone 4
It could explain the other ATT network it picks up and won't let me connect could be the 4g and I'm on the 3G sim/Plan from good old Unlimited Days?

Nyxagamemnon said:
So the 1700 is missing from the 1700/2100 so that's the kicker isn't it. hum.
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That, or whoever sold it to you lied and it doesn't have an LTE chip

So Do you need a 4G Sim and Plan to use 4G?
I figured since the device supported it I'd pop in my Iphone 4(3G Sim) Grandfathered in on the Unlimited Data plan into the phone and Get 4G. But The device picks up 2 separate ATT networks but I can only connect to 1

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These are 4G LTE sim cards

CreepyDroid said:
N7100 is 3G/hspa+ only
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda app-developers app
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Are sure 3g network works on the Note II in the US?

Nyxagamemnon said:
So Do you need a 4G Sim and Plan to use 4G?
I figured since the device supported it I'd pop in my Iphone 4(3G Sim) Grandfathered in on the Unlimited Data plan into the phone and Get 4G. But The device picks up 2 separate ATT networks but I can only connect to 1
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Umm... Of course you need LTE plan and sim card to get LTE service working. You don't put dvd in blu-ray player and expect blu-ray quality, do you? =p
Anyways, even if change your plan and sim I doubt you will be able to connect LTE. On the brighter side, once you switch to LTE you won't get throttled until 5gb data usage. =)
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Yes 3G works on the Note 2 I stuck my old 3G Sim blue one in there it's on HSPA+, I'm going to go get a ATT 4G sim card and see what happens.
The specs say it supports ATT 4G LTE network.
Will update

Good News !!! SPRINT LS970 SIM CARD MOD IS HERE !!!

Sprint Optimus G LS970/Eclipse 4G LTE
This mod is not fully working - phone detect sim without problem but switch to gsm/umts is missing in settings!!!
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What is needed:
Soldering Station, Hot Air Rework Station with Nozzle Straight approx Ø7mm Dia, Solder Flux (not important), Tweezer, Small wires (you can use bonding wire from old headphones), Screwdriver and Good Nerves
Unsolder SIM IC:
Set Hotair temperature to approx 400°C and pressure to thirt.
Check video: (on video is my photon q, but removing is same)
SIM Card Connection:
! THIS IS HARDWARE MOD, SO NO WARRANTY !
...please test it and let me know - maybe some LS970 is network locked
so if you want you can donate me
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sansara_2001
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Cool. I didn't know this phone supported gsm bands.

this phone is global:
2G Network CDMA 800 / 1900
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network CDMA2000 1xEV-DO
HSDPA 850 / 1900
4G Network LTE 1900

no wcdma 2100?

agurzhiy said:
no wcdma 2100?
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hmmm must be tested

4G Network LTE 1900?? I thought this phone would support LTE on 800 band... That's a shame considering Sprint is planning on moving it's spectrum from 1900 to 800.

Wow this is really exciting. What's the level of expertise required to pull this off?

....CAN YOU PLEASE TEST FOR ME INTERNAL SIM IC AND POST RESULTS?
Download from market Sim Card (gsmdev), then go to dial - then dial *#*#4636#*#* - then phone information - set GSM auto (prl) - restart and run Sim Card app.
Thanks

Could you know me about UMTS 2100(wcdma 2100)?

Cornholio will you be doing this to peoples devices for a fee?

As on GSMARENA
LG Optimus G LS970 for For Sprint.
2G Network CDMA 800 / 1900
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network CDMA2000 1xEV-DO
HSDPA 850 / 1900
I just want to is ir really have sim card slot +cdma network support or it is CDMA only?
if there is no sim slow then Gsmarena should not write GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
if i do steps in first postm it will word on 2G GSM networks?

SIM state: NETWORK LOCKED
SIM serial number: 89011200000032322785
SIM country ISO: us
SIM operator code: 310120
SIM operator name: Sprint
Voice mail text ID: Voicemail
Voice mail number: null
Phone type: CDMA
Device MEID or ESN: 99000xxxxxx240
Network country ISO:
Network operator code: 310120
Network operator name: Sprint
Network type: UNKNOWN

huge thanx for your advice, but the device is already bad esn and i am in another country...

so i m just done with doing this mod and i can confirm that this doesnt work for gsm, heck it doesnt even stick to gsm only. It reads up all the info from the sim however but doesnt sticks to gsm network. The screenshots posted by OP are of photon q

funkym0nk3y said:
so i m just done with doing this mod and i can confirm that this doesnt work for gsm, heck it doesnt even stick to gsm only. It reads up all the info from the sim however but doesnt sticks to gsm network. The screenshots posted by OP are of photon q
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I wonder if flashing a GSM modem from one of the other Optimus G variants would work? Or is the issue with the rom?

I dont knw, maybe thr is a risk of bricking the phone by flashing some other variant modem. Can we try to flash the JB leaked rom ? The thing is, the network doesnt change to GSM, the sim mod is working CDMA sim card only which is pretty useless since we can flash the same on the phone

First did you try to open *#*#4636#*#* and set GSM only?
and the second - someone was posting that he flashed Korean FW and everything was working except modem, thus try to do it.

agurzhiy said:
First did you try to open *#*#4636#*#* and set GSM only?
and the second - someone was posting that he flashed Korean FW and everything was working except modem, thus try to do it.
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This code does not work with the model LS970
to 3845 # * 970 #

Both of them works!

So this MOD works with GSM... or not?

Will the Galaxy S4 I9500 Exynos 5 Octa work with T-mobile?

Will the I9500 Exynos 5 Octa international version of the Galaxy S4 work on T-mobile's 3G/4G network?

Treikens said:
Will the I9500 Exynos 5 Octa international version of the Galaxy S4 work on T-mobile's 3G/4G network?
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Yes if your OK with only having 3G but LTE and 4G is a no go as the device isn't designed to work on any of the US networks yet.

Treikens said:
Will the I9500 Exynos 5 Octa international version of the Galaxy S4 work on T-mobile's 3G/4G network?
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I have a i9500 coming to me and the specs say it has DC-HSPA+42.
I don't have LTE in my area so I should be getting the same speeds as I had with my T-Mobile Note 2.

Here's what I've found regarding the GS4 i9500 running on T-Mobile's 4G HSPA+
The international GS4 i9500 supports the 1900MHz band:
http://www.samsung.com/my/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphone/android-os/GT-I9500ZWAXME-spec
March 26, 2013 T-Mobile article:
"To-date, T-Mobile USA has offered GSM/EDGE service on its 1900-MHz spectrum, and 3G HSPA+ service on its 1700-MHz AWS spectrum. T-Mobile USA has been eliminating EDGE service on its 1900-MHz spectrum and replacing it with HSPA+. This is known in the industry as refarming. T-Mobile has been proactively announcing which markets offer 1900-MHz HSPA+ over the last few months. In fact, it says 142 million people use 1900-MHz HSPA+ in 49 markets around the U.S. T-Mobile says its LTE network will cover 100 million Americans by mid-year, and 200 million by the end of the year."
http://www.informationweek.com/mobility/smart-phones/t-mobile-looks-to-shake-up-industry/240151684
Here's a map of T-Mobile's 3G/4G coverage on the 1900MHz band:
http://www.airportal.de/
Sooo.. it looks like if you live in a major city you should get HSPA+ speeds with the i9500. I live in Phoenix, get my phone tomorrow and will head over to T-Mobile. If all works out I will sign up with Solavei (-:

I should have my i9500 by Thursday and will report my findings. My city has been getting more and more 1900mhz support, but if the speeds are too slow at home I might just return it and get the T-Mobile version.

Unfortunately, 1900mhz support so far is only at major cities. I live near two major cities; San Francisco and San Jose, CA. While reception is great at locations where HSPA+ is supported at the 1900mhz band, in-between those cities (ie Sunnyvale, Mountain View...) you will be dropped to the Edge network. It is very inconvenient for me (based on my experience on my S3)
Now I have the official T-mobile S4 which supports the AWS bands, it is way more usable.
Don't hold your breath on waiting for T-mobile to convert 1900mhz Edge to HSPA+ in your area, who knows how long that will take. If you're getting a flag ship phone, you want to use it now not a year from now.

1900MHz is live here in Denver... its a NIGHTMARE because the phone now prefers the 1900 signal which is not only slower (1700 uses DC-HSPA+ technology, using two carriers (1700MHz AND 2100MHz) to effectively double throughput while 1900 is just 1900 so it averages around 4-6 versus 12+ previously) but drops to EDGE a LOT!
I wouldn't rely on 1900... In fact, I got so annoyed with 1900 that I locked my phone to 1700 only.

Update:
I just received my i9500 today and I have seen the icon on H and H+. I currently have it set to WCDMA only and getting speeds of 7-9mbps.
Looks like I may be keeping this one anyways, as I'm getting the same speeds at home as my Note 2.
Update 2:
Did a side by side with a GS3 set to WCDMA only on the interstate and the GS4 was pulling higher speeds. Looks like the refarm is working well in my city !

Good to hear.
Got my i9500 yesterday also and ran over to T-Mo. They didn't have the GS4 in their store yet.
Getting consistant H+ speeds 6-14Mbps in a heavy use area.

KillaHurtz said:
Update:
I just received my i9500 today and I have seen the icon on H and H+. I currently have it set to WCDMA only and getting speeds of 7-9mbps.
Looks like I may be keeping this one anyways, as I'm getting the same speeds at home as my Note 2.
Update 2:
Did a side by side with a GS3 set to WCDMA only on the interstate and the GS4 was pulling higher speeds. Looks like the refarm is working well in my city !
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lostmyphone said:
Good to hear.
Got my i9500 yesterday also and ran over to T-Mo. They didn't have the GS4 in their store yet.
Getting consistant H+ speeds 6-14Mbps in a heavy use area.
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Can one of you do *#0011# and post the output? Those speeds are quite high for HSPA - it almost seems like you're getting DC-HSPA+ which would mean you are on the AWS band.
Sent from my SGH-T999

The i9500 does not support AWS, only UMTS and HSPA+. Sounds confusing I know, but AWS on Tmo requires 1700 & 2100 support for it to work. As far as I know the i9500 does not support 2100mhz.
Edit:
Here's a shot tethering to my Macbook Pro from my GS4....
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EtherealRemnant said:
Can one of you do *#0011# and post the output? Those speeds are quite high for HSPA - it almost seems like you're getting DC-HSPA+ which would mean you are on the AWS band.
Sent from my SGH-T999
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I'm not totally sure, it says 1900 Band 2.
It'll flip between 3G and H+ depending if I'm downloading or not, probably for power saving.

lostmyphone said:
I'm not totally sure, it says 1900 Band 2.
It'll flip between 3G and H+ depending if I'm downloading or not, probably for power saving.
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Yep that's the refarmed PCS band. You're lucky. When my S3 gets stuck on refarmed here, my downloads average 6... If I force it to AWS I average 12+
The phone idles on 3G UMTS mode and goes to H+ for battery consumption reasons, yes.
Sent from my SGH-T999

KillaHurtz said:
The i9500 does not support AWS, only UMTS and HSPA+. Sounds confusing I know, but AWS on Tmo requires 1700 & 2100 support for it to work. As far as I know the i9500 does not support 2100mhz.
Edit:
Here's a shot tethering to my Macbook Pro from my GS4....
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i9500 does have the 2100mhz band, but not the 1700.
http://www.samsung.com/my/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphone/android-os/GT-I9500ZWAXME-spec
My APN is epc.tmobile.com and not fast.tmobile.com, so yea, I believe I do not have AWS.
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Cool, thanks for the info, Ethereal.

None of the i9500 have AWS, did you even read my post you quoted lol.

I was looking for this same information as here in the UK we only have the SD600 version but I want the Wolfson chip and better camera sensor.
Does anyone know if it will cover H+ and 3G in the UK.? Thanks
KillaHurtz said:
The i9500 does not support AWS, only UMTS and HSPA+. Sounds confusing I know, but AWS on Tmo requires 1700 & 2100 support for it to work. As far as I know the i9500 does not support 2100mhz.
Edit:
Here's a shot tethering to my Macbook Pro from my GS4....
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