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So called Gorilla Glass

To clear rumors or to be very specific!
I took off my t-mobile screen protector yesterday and to day discovered a deep scratch on the "gorilla glass"...
To be very clean. Im very very verrrryy careful with my electronics and never damaged any in anyway! But its how how people say you can stratch it with keys or pens or put it in a bad with bolts and screws and the glass wont be scratched.
It false advertisement because i had my vibrant in an empty pocket fresh dry cleaned too! no dust and anything inside to cut it.
I had many average phones where i only got a tiny scratch on the screen from the phone falling from my hand after 2yrs of use and landing on concrete...
its funny how this glass gets scratched up very deeply without being dropped or scrapped at! and its a scratch for sure because when i move my thumb on it pressed i can feel the sharp line of the scratch on my thumb
Maybe there is a big misunderstanding, maybe only euro galaxy S phones have the gorilla glass... because this sure doesnt!
So for those who want to go naked!!! DOOOOOONT! buy a screen protector!

man... although a simple glass wont scratch with nothing in your pocket..
Maybe someone touched it when you didnt know, or something happened.
I've been using my vibrant for about three weeks now and have no scratches, only some marks on the battery cover.

The samsung vibrant does indeed have gorilla glass. Just because it has gorilla glass doesn't mean its un -scratchable. It just means it's more resistant than regular glass...if you don't mind me asking...what did you have in your pockets? A machete? A light saber?!...I kid, I kid...the morale of this story is, get a screen protector, prevent your vibrant from getting scathed by a light saber!
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whether it has Gorilla glass or not, this is the FIRST phone that ended up with deep scratch only after a month of use.
I really dont care, i got it replaced and finally bought screen protector that i really like. (anti glare and anti fingerprint)

People should seriously invest into realook, it's only ten bucks and you won't even know it's on. But don't take my word for it or the other hundred posts here on xda that claim the same thing.
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Goog1e Phone said:
People should seriously invest into realook, it's only ten bucks and you won't even know it's on. But don't take my word for it or the other hundred posts here on xda that claim the same thing.
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Have you seen any video's posted, I'm interested n anti-glare and anti-fingerprint but with the realooks you can't really tell its on style. I know, it's probably a lot to ask for.

j0hnZ said:
Have you seen any video's posted, I'm interested n anti-glare and anti-fingerprint but with the realooks you can't really tell its on style. I know, it's probably a lot to ask for.
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with anti-glare and anti-fingerprint you will always tell that its there. i personally dont like reflective screens or screen protectors so my anti-glare and anti-fingerprint work great.

lol. this phone isn't fragile, you must have done something. no way the phone got scratched being in a pocket with nothing else in it. unless you walked that pocket into the corner of a desk or something...
my phone's been without screen protector or case since release with no scratches or blemishes.

funeralthirst said:
lol. this phone isn't fragile, you must have done something. no way the phone got scratched being in a pocket with nothing else in it. unless you walked that pocket into the corner of a desk or something...
my phone's been without screen protector or case since release with no scratches or blemishes.
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+1 not a scratch.

Real Gorilla Glass takes alot to scratch. The ZuneHD is known to have the Gorilla Glass. My ZuneHD has been naked since the day I brought it and today it is still scratch free. It is possible our Samsung Vibrant does not have the Gorilla Glass as part of carrier modification to cu cost. who knows.

that sucks man, i would be pissed too.
but what did it get scratched on? must have had something in your pocket with it...?

AlexSochi8 said:
To clear rumors or to be very specific!
I took off my t-mobile screen protector yesterday and to day discovered a deep scratch on the "gorilla glass"...
To be very clean. Im very very verrrryy careful with my electronics and never damaged any in anyway! But its how how people say you can stratch it with keys or pens or put it in a bad with bolts and screws and the glass wont be scratched.
It false advertisement because i had my vibrant in an empty pocket fresh dry cleaned too! no dust and anything inside to cut it.
I had many average phones where i only got a tiny scratch on the screen from the phone falling from my hand after 2yrs of use and landing on concrete...
its funny how this glass gets scratched up very deeply without being dropped or scrapped at! and its a scratch for sure because when i move my thumb on it pressed i can feel the sharp line of the scratch on my thumb
Maybe there is a big misunderstanding, maybe only euro galaxy S phones have the gorilla glass... because this sure doesnt!
So for those who want to go naked!!! DOOOOOONT! buy a screen protector!
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Interesting post...I'm actually a screen protector freak and have ordered multiple brands of screen protectors for the Vibrant (actually even Galaxy S just to try it...) so I'm all FOR screen protectors...best one so far is from Korea.
About your scratch...unless there's a scratch fairy, there is SOMETHING that caused that scratch. It may be foreign to you because you may not have known when it happened...It's highly possible someone else without your knowledge was the cause of it. Scratches just don't appear out of thin air...
Bottom line...the glass on the Samsung is solid...very solid...I've dropped my phone before so I know first hand how durable the glass is...it's some tough $#!t....

PaiPiePia said:
Real Gorilla Glass takes alot to scratch. The ZuneHD is known to have the Gorilla Glass. My ZuneHD has been naked since the day I brought it and today it is still scratch free. It is possible our Samsung Vibrant does not have the Gorilla Glass as part of carrier modification to cu cost. who knows.
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Its just the way of the world. If you put a screen protector on, soon after you take it off your will get scratched.
If you put it in a case, soon after you take it off you'll drop your phone. Call it karma, or just dumb luck, but it always seems to happen this way

PaiPiePia said:
Real Gorilla Glass takes alot to scratch. The ZuneHD is known to have the Gorilla Glass. My ZuneHD has been naked since the day I brought it and today it is still scratch free. It is possible our Samsung Vibrant does not have the Gorilla Glass as part of carrier modification to cu cost. who knows.
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If someone can do a key test we all can find out for sure

I've put this phones in my pocket with keys many times, dropped it several times, not a scratch yet. Whatever it's made of, it's pretty tough.
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just to say this... like many people who were surprised by vibrant getting scratched so easily... Im on of them too! Because in theory if it has gorilla glass its suppose to be a lot tougher than average glass! I understand its not un-scratchable but it deff got scratched very easily being that i had nothing in my pockets! and that whenever it did recieve that scratch it wasnt from something really bad because i would of noticed it... since the phone is around me all the time!
So if any kind souls who believe this is a gorilla screen please demonstrate it for us on a video.... Take a key and scratch it the glass around and we'll see then....

I don't use a sp, but my phone still looks brand new.. No sp, no case, usually keep my phone in my pocket when walking around. Screen is still smooth a glass. Could samsung have used different materials depending on when it was built, kind of like the problem with the shortage if amoled screens?
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I actually dropped my phone on one of those concrete roads in a way that send the phone sliding on the concrete several feet face down. All 4 corners of the phone's bezel show scratches but nothing on the screen itself.

Goog1e Phone said:
People should seriously invest into realook, it's only ten bucks and you won't even know it's on. But don't take my word for it or the other hundred posts here on xda that claim the same thing.
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I agree 100%!!!!
I put my first one on backwards and complained to them about not having standard directions. (You take the plastic covers off in reverse?) I did not read the instructions, but they still sent me three free new ones.
Great company, great screen protectors.

AlexSochi8 said:
just to say this... like many people who were surprised by vibrant getting scratched so easily... Im on of them too! Because in theory if it has gorilla glass its suppose to be a lot tougher than average glass! I understand its not un-scratchable but it deff got scratched very easily being that i had nothing in my pockets! and that whenever it did recieve that scratch it wasnt from something really bad because i would of noticed it... since the phone is around me all the time!
So if any kind souls who believe this is a gorilla screen please demonstrate it for us on a video.... Take a key and scratch it the glass around and we'll see then....
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I would never personally do this, and a 3 dollar screen protector to protect the integrity of a very sweet piece of equipment, is a very small price to pay.
I just find it hard to believe that with only cloth surrounding it it got scratched. Not even lint in your pocket? I call BS
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For Those With Cracked or Scratched Screens

I have had my SGS3 since July and I have had a screen protector on it except for 1 week and in that time the phone got 3 nice scratches on it.
I am anal with my phone as I have a screen protector on it as well as one on the back and a rubber case over it also, so this is not a case of
being careless.
I put a post on Corning's Gorilla Glass 2 Facebook page and I got a reply saying basically Get in touch with Samsung as Corning can't do
anything, but if I want to discuss the problem further, contact them at [email protected]
Why doesn't everyone who has had problems with their screen contact them and maybe they will see this isn't an isolated incident.
This is what I wrote and what they replied...
Ian said:
Why is the Gorilla Glass 2 on the Samsung Galaxy S3 less resistant to scratching than the original Gorilla Glass on the original Galaxy S?
My 5 month old $650 Galaxy S3 has 3 nice scratches on the screen when my screen protector came off and I didn't get the new one for a
week. This is not right for a device that costs so much. Corning should be looking into these problems.
I have heard many more stories of scratches and cracks on the screen of the S3. Does this mean I will have to stay away from products with
Gorilla Glass from now on?
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Corning® Gorilla® Glass said:
Hi Ian. So sorry you've had a problem. It’s hard to say what might have happened with your phone.While our
glass is tougher and significantly more damage resistant, it’s not scratch proof. You might want to check with Samsung to see if there is a
warranty. If you'd like to talk more about this, please e-mail [email protected]. Hopefully this helps.
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Here is a petition I started in hopes that there is a possible solution to our problems.
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/gorilla-glass-2-is-not-as-tough-as-advertised/
Have as many people as you know to sign this, it might be our best bet to show how many of us are affected.
Ian

I've had my phone without a protector for the last month or so and have zero scratches

Same thing here. What did the damage? Keys in pocket, pen, angry ex? It helps build a case if you know the exact cause if the damage
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My gorilla glass is outstanding. Dropped without a case/screen protector flat down about a meter onto wavy tiles and it didnt even scratch. I also dropped it on its side from my pocket from chair a couple times and its still flawless. Maybe I'm lucky.

Yes, most people will respond that their phones are in great condition, but this is for those who have had trouble with
the screen.
I am very protective of my phone. It was scratched in the (1) week I didn't have a screen protector on it. My original SGS's
screen was in new impeccable condition when I sold it after using it for 2 years, so why is this new phone scratched after
only 5 months?
Ian

There's lots of ways to scratch glass, a bit of grit or sand in your pocket ETC .. i wouldn't risk using my phone without a protector for even one day.
Might have to eventually just accept you scratched your phones screen.

I too have been very careful to not scratch my screen. I am fanatical about clean hands. The smallest partical of dust seems to be able to scratch the screen. As much as this phone cost, you would think they would throw in even the cheapest screen protector to hold you over untill you can get something better. Am i being too petty?
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393stroker said:
I too have been very careful to not scratch my screen. I am fanatical about clean hands. The smallest partical of dust seems to be able to scratch the screen. As much as this phone cost, you would think they would throw in even the cheapest screen protector to hold you over untill you can get something better. Am i being too petty?
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I find a good quality screen protector is not even slightly noticeable on the screen & in no way affects use, i have no idea why they don't supply one.
I am also amazed they advise against using them in their literature.

The screen on my Galaxy S3 is great! I've had mine for over 2 months without ever having a screen protector on it & I don't have 1 scratch on my phone!!! I also am very protective of my phone! Seems to be pretty good to me.
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Another thread complaining about the glass cracking/scratching..? :silly:

[Q] Galaxy Note 2 Screen Scratches

Hi Everybody, I got to scratch my Galaxy Note 2, and that's bad and quite deep scratches, you can make sounds while passing my fingernails across it, and also the deep ones can serves as rail/ruler if i put my fingernails point on it... while it's turned on i can't really see scratches, just if i look and search for them, but it's there and it's annoying me so much, just so ugly and I gonna tell you how it happened...
I live in China and bought it here, my old phone is a GSII and it broked, i was quite careless about that phone and it dropped down the floor too many times, really, finally last month it stops work caz it brakes the mainboard, after 1 year and 3 months suffering, i never used screen protector and really, SGII screen does not have any scratches that you can see, just if you point it into direct sunlight, but none of them you can feel with your fingers or nails, none of them are deep, if you clean it up it's almost new, so when i got the note 2 the guy was putting on the screen protector and I said, hey, don't do it, this phones doesn't need it... anyways, after almost a month, my friend was asking me if the screen is really strong, i said yes, you can't really scratch it, i put knives, keys and so and it doesn't do anything, so there was a mug in front of me, that i thought it was plastic, and i scratch over the screen and you know what? fuc**ing ceramic/porcelain, I just forgot how strong porcelain can be, my friend said, well done, you got it... well, i fuc**d up my phone and i feel stupid, and just to let you guys know, let your phones far away from ceramic/porcelain, it's really strong against glass. I wanna do something, my options are...
Replace the whole thing, buy a new display module... (too expensive)
Replace just the gray front panel and the glass.. (Replacement touch screen mirror << i found this in a website dnt knw if its the front glass)
buy some screen protector that can fill the scratches (if I replace the glass I will buy one anyways
take it to a glass store and ask them to resurface (dnt knw if they will do it and also seems that before the glass, the surface is not really glass, there is some cover on it)
Well i need suggestions and perhaps answer my doubts above if possible. Appreciate this forum.
Thank you,
Junior

I suggest you start using a screen protector. I got one free one with every case I purchased on Taobao, otherwise they're about 15rmb applied down at any phone store.
Gorilla Glass scratches just like any other type of glass.

hannsz said:
I suggest you start using a screen protector. I got one free one with every case I purchased on Taobao, otherwise they're about 15rmb applied down at any phone store.
Gorilla Glass scratches just like any other type of glass.
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Yeah, I will buy a nice protector, but i feel that i should do something before it, i think even good protectors will not fill the scratches, so I am thinking about replace the front glass, if I find it, or resurface if its possible, still don't know what are the possibilities on fixing it.
I had good experience with gorilla glass before, it didn't scratch like other type of glass on old phones, but ceramic/porcelain/sand is indeed strong.

Im using screen protector... Gorilla Glass is scratch resistant, not scratch proof

Laynee1 said:
Im using screen protector... Gorilla Glass is scratch resistant, not scratch proof
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Yeah, I will... can you give me some suggestion on what can I do?
Replace the whole thing, buy a new display module... (too expensive)
Replace just the gray front panel and the glass.. (Replacement touch screen mirror << i found this in a website dnt knw if its the front glass)
buy some screen protector that can fill the scratches (if I replace the glass I will buy one anyways
take it to a glass store and ask them to resurface (dnt knw if they will do it and also seems that before the glass, the surface is not really glass, there is some cover on it)
Thanks

agoodjunior said:
Yeah, I will... can you give me some suggestion on what can I do?
Replace the whole thing, buy a new display module... (too expensive)
Replace just the gray front panel and the glass.. (Replacement touch screen mirror << i found this in a website dnt knw if its the front glass)
buy some screen protector that can fill the scratches (if I replace the glass I will buy one anyways
take it to a glass store and ask them to resurface (dnt knw if they will do it and also seems that before the glass, the surface is not really glass, there is some cover on it)
Thanks
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Dude - first thing is that you are abusing your phone device, Second I don't think anyone of us on this forum will ever try running knifes or blades or porcelain mugs on our phone screens..!! If you have heard of bullet-proof glass, they resist bullets up to some extent but then it breaks, it doesn't mean that I'll fire bullets at my car's windshield - so my friend get it repaired - changed whatever but don't abuse your phone display on purpose, they have a Gorilla Glass to save your device from scratches on that one odd day when your phone may suffer an accident... :angel:

Return phone for scratch on screen?!

Hi, I've had my phone for 2 weeks (replaced 3 times due to battery issues) and its got a hairline scratch going all the way across the screen! It's really annoying, I bought it from Vodafone UK and am considering replacing it since I'm locked into a 2 year contract. I've been so careful with my phone, I keep it in a pocket with nothing in and haven't dropped it so I have no idea how this "gorilla glass" has gotten scratched, also the back is marked from general use and I can see shiny sivery bits on the back casing.
What could I say for them to replace it? Like I say, I feel like scum for replacing it due to a scratch, but they're taking enough from me a month!
Thank you

Most carriers I know won't replace for scratched glass unless you got it that way.
Also the gorilla glass is scratch resistant not scratch proof. Generally things like sand can still scratch it quite nicely lol.
You could try asking them but I wouldn't get your hopes up to be honest
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+1 to above.
The HTC One X screen is 8 MOHS
Sand = 9 MOHS, hense why sand scratches it.
I think coins/keys etc are like 6 MOHS

Wilks3y said:
+1 to above.
The HTC One X screen is 8 MOHS
Sand = 9 MOHS, hense why sand scratches it.
I think coins/keys etc are like 6 MOHS
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Gorilla Glass is 7 MOHS
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sand's a *****, a beach party ended my pristine screen. my hox got a couple of scratches, but luckily they are quite tiny so it doesn't bother a lot.
in your situation I don't think they will do jack **** about it... they will probably argue that it is your own fault. Only thing to do is prevent more scratching

First thing I do to a new phone is apply screen protector, cover and store original packaging. Helps resale value heaps
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maxilick said:
First thing I do to a new phone is apply screen protector, cover and store original packaging. Helps resale value heaps
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When I bought HOX I was all like "What's wrong with these fools buying overpriced screen protections on Gorilla Glass 2 ?!"
After over half of a year I've got only two, barely noticeable scratches so I don't think I need tape some sh*t over my display. My problem with Gorilla Glass is, that it's too hard. Normal display is more prone to scratch, but it's flexible, unlike Gorilla Glass. My HOX once slipped out of my hands and fell off stairs and since then I've got two small spots of splitted glass on sides (between the display and its frame). I hope these splits won't extend...

TommY.KillER said:
When I bought HOX I was all like "What's wrong with these fools buying overpriced screen protections on Gorilla Glass 2 ?!"
After over half of a year I've got only two, barely noticeable scratches so I don't think I need tape some sh*t over my display. My problem with Gorilla Glass is, that it's too hard. Normal display is more prone to scratch, but it's flexible, unlike Gorilla Glass. My HOX once slipped out of my hands and fell off stairs and since then I've got two small spots of splitted glass on sides (between the display and its frame). I hope these splits won't extend...
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I wouldn't call 5 protectors for $2.00 overpriced. not unless your unemployed or a vagrant.:laugh: if dropped a good cover minimizes the risks of the glass cracking/splitting.

maxilick said:
I wouldn't call 5 protectors for $2.00 overpriced. not unless your unemployed or a vagrant.:laugh: if dropped a good cover minimizes the risks of the glass cracking/splitting.
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There are also cheap screen protectors, I know, but I haven't found any of these in CZ. There are probably some on DealExtreme, though. BTW I don't think screen protector will save me from this small damage, because it's splitted like... from inside I'd sent you a photo, but best camera around atm is in my HOX

Does the Galaxy Nexus screen scratch without a protector

Hi. I looked for previous threads but wasn't able to find any...so sorry if this is a duplicate.
I saw on the web that various opinions were around on whether the Gnex needs a screen protector. I watched the key test as well on YouTube. Can anyone confirm if this screen is good enough to not require a protector?
Thanks all.

jeffreynothing43 said:
Hi. I looked for previous threads but wasn't able to find any...so sorry if this is a duplicate.
I saw on the web that various opinions were around on whether the Gnex needs a screen protector. I watched the key test as well on YouTube. Can anyone confirm if this screen is good enough to not require a protector?
Thanks all.
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Obviously not scratch proof. No gorilla glass. Yes to the arguably "reinforced" glass. As long as you don't put your phone in with keys, coins, etc...you should be fine. I don't use a screen protector or case on mine and so far I only have a few nicks from light drops.

iLeopard said:
Obviously not scratch proof. No gorilla glass. Yes to the arguably "reinforced" glass. As long as you don't put your phone in with keys, coins, etc...you should be fine. I don't use a screen protector or case on mine and so far I only have a few nicks from light drops.
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Watch out for sand, I'm pretty sure that's what scratched mine

There is no scratch proof glass on phones. Even Gorilla Glass scratches against things like sand.
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Well gorilla glass is not much more than Cornings branded version of the hardened glass found on any phone including the GN. It is as resistant as any phone, but as it's still glass, it's likely that it will scratch. Personally mine has a bunch of tiny scratches(had it since launch). I bet they are caused by sand, and they are no better or worse than my previous phone with gorilla glass.
Whether you need a screen-protector is a question of whether you will be more annoyed by the protector or the tiny scratches. But it is likely that you will get tiny scratches.

My experience:
Galaxy Skyrocket with Gorilla glass: 1 1/2 years without a single scratch.
Galaxy Nexus: scratched in the first month.

Get a screen protector. These screens are pretty soft. It will easily scratch just from being in your pocket.
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I've had mine for about 15 months, and I try to be careful with the phone. But try as I may, things happen. My glass is still crystal clear and free of any visible scratches, but there are multiple spots on the bezel around the glass that are scratched and pitted. I don't use any screen protectors or a case.

tdf666 said:
Get a screen protector. These screens are pretty soft. It will easily scratch just from being in your pocket.
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no it wont. just being in your pocket will NOT scratch the screen. however, if you have some sand in there or something harder than glass, it will scratch it.
i have had my phone for 14 months now, NEVER had a screen protector on it. and i JUST got my first scratch and i believe it was from a grain of sand on my thumb. i spend a LOT of time at the beach in Feb and March (live in Florida ) and its my only guess as to how it happened.
if you are careful, you should be OK without one....but getting one is probably a good idea if you are around sand a lot.

Yes it scratches
- wore out your welcome

Got mine at launch, no screen protector and no major scratches. There are a couple MINOR ones but nothing that can bee seen without careful inspection. I don't abuse the phone but I also don't baby it. I have used a holster and had it in my pocket. Go naked you will be fine if you don't abuse it.
G-Nexus Sent

bpyazel said:
There is no scratch proof glass on phones. Even Gorilla Glass scratches against things like sand.
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Common misconception: Gorilla glass is not scratch resistant. If anything, slightly shatterproof.

iLeopard said:
Common misconception: Gorilla glass is not scratch resistant. If anything, slightly shatterproof.
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The misconception is what exactly a "scratch" is. A layer of glass is actually removed and cannot be "fixed". Anything will scratch if rubbed against an abrasive with a greater hardness.

063_XOBX said:
The misconception is what exactly a "scratch" is. A layer of glass is actually removed and cannot be "fixed". Anything will scratch if rubbed against an abrasive with a greater hardness.
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Agreed. My comment was just to reinforce the fact that unlike popular belief, gorilla glass is not at all scratch resistant but rather shatterproof. Not so much as an entire "layer".