Quick question im trying to buy a few phones to donate around have a couple already but im getting mixed responses from people so here it is if a phone had a bad esn can it be used on diffrent carriers or is a no go all the way around?
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evo3d6 said:
Quick question im trying to buy a few phones to donate around have a couple already but im getting mixed responses from people so here it is if a phone had a bad esn can it be used on diffrent carriers or is a no go all the way around?
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Yes, it can be used on other networks. Mine is on Verizon Wireless. It's not the easiest process.
I flash phones all the time was just wanting to know if there would be any additional steps id have to take?
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I flash phones all the time was just wanting to know if there would be any additional steps id have to take?
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Oh, I couldn't tell you. I've only done it once. I had issues with 3g but went away once I flashed to GB rom.
Question is there anyway to get rid of the Sprint stuff so it won't keep complaining to update on stockish roms?
No there shouldn't be any diffrent steps as long as you have the donor phone you should be good.
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I got a D710 with bad esn, and use it on cricket. Stock roms suck, I rarely find an mms fix that works on most, and can't get voice mail notifications. AOSP is better, I get voicemail out the box, but nothing seemed to work on MMS. I'm not a pro, but have flashed my share of devices. Using a doaner phone means esn change, that is an iffy subject. Change it to use on another carrier? Why, when you could do the same thing and keep it on Sprint? Not legal either way. Bad esn means failed to pay the bill or was claimed lost/stolen. Either way, changing the esn to use it is considered fraud. The phone belongs to the carrier. No one would hunt you done for it, but you should know about it. Soon all the black listed cdma devices will be in one database, and just flashing a device won't be a way to use it. "Cleaning up" an esn or part it out will be all the devices with bad esns will be good for.
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Ya I have bought bad ESN phones just to flash them to cricket which is relatively heard other providers can be a lot harder but never tried. And cricket will pretty much allow anything on there network.
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May want to check also with the parties you're donating to. Many of them may not need to activate it - in which case ESN doesn't really matter. Bad ESNs can be flashed to other carriers, but Sprint may take some talks to get that working - and assuming they're nice enough to do it.
Well there's flashing and esn changing. Flashing is not touching the esn and taking it to another Sprint MNVO and just activating it either legitimately (some are byod) or just changing some settings on your end and then activating it on said mnvo carrier. Then there's changing the esn. If there are carriers that only allow their devices, then youd have to go this route which is a bit complicated and not for the average user. This involves obtaining a donor phone (one that the carrier sells) and taking the esn and a bunch of other settings from that phone and plugging it into the phone you want to use. Ive done this successfully with an epic touch 4g on Platinumtel and Virgin Mobile. It's been working perfectly for the last 9 months. It is completely legal. Where it becomes illegal and fraudulent is if you clone someone elses phone and do not pay the bill (read this for more info although it's still a gray area http://www.hackerscatalog.com/Services/TECH_Notes/one.html) So yes, you can do a lot with a phone with a bad esn if you know what you're doing or pay someone who does. Keep in mind it would be easier to take a sprint phone to virgin mobile or verizon phone to page plus, etc. A lot of the settings will stay the same and cdma carriers use different frequencies for data and you might end up with 1x for data. If you need a how to guide, I could post a link. Let me know.
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I'm sure most of us have seen the rumors floating around over the past few days of how a sprint rep said that the galaxy nexus can definitely be flashed for sprint.
Has anyone been successful with this yet? Or is there a sprint employee here that can confirm this?
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I have read that article too.
It appears that it might be true. I know in the past this was never allowed. It is odd that after all this time they would allow it now. You would have thought they would have allowed the Verizon Iphone. I would personally confirm this myself before purchasing a Nexus though. Also, even if they do activate it I would assume your insurance would not work on a device they do not carry.
Give it a few days. I am sure someone will try it. We will no for sure soon. Personally, I think the rep got the Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus confused.
It could probably be made to work for 3G only...which doesn't concern me at all since you have a better chance of finding me sober on a Friday night than you do of finding a 4G signal around here.
Now, as for activation there is a 99.9% chance that you cannot just call them up to take care of it. I doubt you could even have your buddy that works at Sprint take care of it. There is kinda this database...
...now, how could it be done? Likely in the same manner that things are "flashed" to Boost and Cricket and MetroPCS.
What does that entail? That's up to you to find out, but, I'll recommend you don't go about trying to find out on XDA. It is a legal grey area. As such it is not something XDA will allow. It's worth neither XDA's time nor money to debate it's legality.
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It could probably be made to work for 3G only...which doesn't concern me at all since you have a better chance of finding me sober on a Friday night than you do of finding a 4G signal around here.
Now, as for activation there is a 99.9% chance that you cannot just call them up to take care of it. I doubt you could even have your buddy that works at Sprint take care of it. There is kinda this database...
...now, how could it be done? Likely in the same manner that things are "flashed" to Boost and Cricket and MetroPCS.
What does that entail? That's up to you to find out, but, I'll recommend you don't go about trying to find out on XDA. It is a legal grey area. As such it is not something XDA will allow. It's worth neither XDA's time nor money to debate it's legality.
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I thought flashing was only illegal if you messed with the ESN?
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I thought flashing was only illegal if you messed with the ESN?
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I am going to politely decline discussing the matter.
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I thought flashing was only illegal if you messed with the ESN?
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That's what you have to do to get the phone on sprint. Unless you get a Rep to add the esn.
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That's what you have to do to get the phone on sprint. Unless you get a Rep to add the esn.
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Also a VZW prl as well and some other minor tinkering in software.
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That's what you have to do to get the phone on sprint. Unless you get a Rep to add the esn.
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You wont have to do that if the following is true. I think this is what the OP was thinking about:
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Also a VZW prl as well and some other minor tinkering in software.
http://phandroid.com/2011/12/20/spr...e-given-the-green-light-for-activation-rumor/
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Ok, so like many of us here, I was also curious, so i chatted up one of their CSR's on the webchat. Here is our conversation.
http://gyazo.com/8c474fc6bf3e0346cd442e9e203136f1
For even further clarification I called my local sprint store, and They also said what the CSR I spoke with said, If sprint does not sell the phone, it cannot be activated on the network, and to exhaust the final line of questioning, I am presently on the line with Sprints Customer Care (corporate call center, not local store), for the final nail in the coffin. I will post back once I get off of the line with them.
Edit: Just got off the line with the corporate CSR, and they confirmed what the other 2 said.
So that is 3 out of 3 Sprint Reps, Local CSR, Phone CSR, Chat CSR, all saying no the Galaxy Nexus cannot be activated on Sprint's Network.
Which doesn't go to say that you could do so via "questionable" methods. But you can't just call them and say Here is my MEID DEC activate mah phone naow.
I answered this yesterday. I am betting the tech that goofed got the two nexus phones mixed up.
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As a person who works in the training dept of a sprint Call center I can tell you for a fact that there is no way we can activate a Verizon ESN in our system. They just dont exist in our database. Any means of activating that phone on our systems is not thru any legitamate means.
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As a person who works in the training dept of a sprint Call center I can tell you for a fact that there is no way we can activate a Verizon ESN in our system. They just dont exist in our database. Any means of activating that phone on our systems is not thru any legitamate means.
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this. i work in a prefferred retailer. the only way is to get the esn in the system, it will just show as invalid if not, we've tried this. so how to get it into the system? technically, the previous poster was correct, it wouldnt be legitmate; since verizon has the rights to the esn's that were created by the manufacturers FOR verizon specifically. so, i am sorry, but no Galaxy Nexus on sprint...
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this. i work in a prefferred retailer. the only way is to get the esn in the system, it will just show as invalid if not, we've tried this. so how to get it into the system? technically, the previous poster was correct, it wouldnt be legitmate; since verizon has the rights to the esn's that were created by the manufacturers FOR verizon specifically. so, i am sorry, but no Galaxy Nexus on sprint...
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You realize admitting to me you work in a sprint store makes you my enemy. You'd be surprised how many times a day a customer calls in and goes the sprint store promised me that you'd do "x" when in fact we cant. And next thing I know im on an escalation, telling the customer if a store promised you something to go back to the store getting yelled at by an idiot who has no concept of right or wrong who then asks to speak to my manager.
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As employees of Sprint, either directly or indirectly, it is inappropriate and unprofessional on any level to have this conversation on an external forum.
Full Disclosure: I am a Sprint employee. Any opinions are my own and in no way endorsed by Sprint.
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If you have not heard this enough already, it will not activate on Sprint because the ESN is not registered to the Sprint network. There is no legitimate way to make that happen either.
Besides, the GSII is a better phone right?
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I'm sure most of us have seen the rumors floating around over the past few days of how a sprint rep said that the galaxy nexus can definitely be flashed for sprint.
Has anyone been successful with this yet? Or is there a sprint employee here that can confirm this?
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As employees of Sprint, either directly or indirectly, it is inappropriate and unprofessional on any level to have this conversation on an external forum.
Full Disclosure: I am a Sprint employee. Any opinions are my own and in no way endorsed by Sprint.
EDIT: Quoted post removed so I removed the quote. Hoping the other commenter will as well.
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thank you, i appreciate this
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You realize admitting to me you work in a sprint store makes you my enemy. You'd be surprised how many times a day a customer calls in and goes the sprint store promised me that you'd do "x" when in fact we cant. And next thing I know im on an escalation, telling the customer if a store promised you something to go back to the store getting yelled at by an idiot who has no concept of right or wrong who then asks to speak to my manager.
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I also work in a preferred retailer. Im a tech. And i cant tell you how many dam customers i get say cc said i can come in and get a new phone. Theres more to do than that. We actually have interaction. From what ive seen and talked to my friends about you read off a script and only mess with your own device. so when you actually so called "get your hands dirty" and you know what half of the idiot customers lie. you know that i catch half of them lieing to me daily. "did your phone get wet?" no ."why is there rice in it then? Get real.
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Would be awesome but don't think it is possible !
SGS2 is a better phone anyway. Forget the nexus. ICS is the real thing to be excited about.
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Can I use any other service provider besides sprint on my epic 4g since its now rooted?
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Lueoldgregg said:
Can I use any other service provider besides sprint on my epic 4g since its now rooted?
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Google Flashing Samsung Epic to Alternat Carriers. I believe you need a donor phone from that carrier.
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Who are you looking to go to? Just curious.
I thought I read some where that this phone can use cricket...
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mine even flashed to a carrier outside US called Smart-Telecom, sometime can be buggy, but as long as you flashed correctly everything should be working.
I know I've seen posts from people who have flashed their epic to work on Boost or Cricket.
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Can I use any other service provider besides sprint on my epic 4g since its now rooted?
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Our epic's use CDMA technology, theoretically, they could be reprogrammed to work on any CDMA Carrier given that the following is done.
#1 The Carrier allows adding ESNs to their database, thus you'll get working talk and text.
(You'll have to manually know the rest of the programming to each carrier and input the missing values. Not to mention some companies make it even tougher by hardcoding things into the framework-res)
#2 The carrier does NOT allow adding of ESNs to which you'll then need to drop more bills, buy a donor phone that you can read its values from, and port that to your epic.
It is not a guarantee that all CDMA carriers will work with 100% things functioning correctly, thus not all carriers go through the trouble of doing OTA programming to phones that aren't natively theirs. Although some do at least give you the needed programming settings, you may get lucky and find guides that other people have wrote up that are tedious, but good to follow. Cutting you the hours of work it took to write the guides, just so you can follow it with everything working in like 30 mins of your own time.
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I had a hd2, but I bought my friends tmo samsung galaxy s2. At the moment I can only access the internet through wifi, when I try to go online with just the phone with my plan it comes up.. your data plan does not support this device. Anyway I can get around that and still be able to use my 3g data with this phone or do I have to actually update my plan to 4g for this phone in order to get data again?
Have you tried going into advanced settings and turning off 4g? The settings would be accessible from the phone dial pad with a particular code.... Something like *#0011# I can't remember the exact code but if you poke around for it I'm sure it's been posted before.
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edit. Just thought about it for another second... You would probably have to tell the phone to use edge only. Not sure it would work, but I am sure it would suck. I would look for it in the settings, but if my girl woke up and I was rummaging through her phone I might look like a creep.
Hmm you must be on the old grandfather data plan. TMobile blocks any of their 4g devices from utilizing it. If you want to continue using your old data plan you would need the telus version i think. I know this is true with the sensation and amaze, possibly other phones too...basically any non TMobile branded phone.
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Hmm you must be on the old grandfather data plan. TMobile blocks any of their 4g devices from utilizing it. If you want to continue using your old data plan you would need the telus version i think. I know this is true with the sensation and amaze, possibly other phones too...basically any non TMobile branded phone.
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I know it's taboo on xda but what if he changed his imei number to match the HD2?
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I know it's taboo on xda but what if he changed his imei number to match the HD2?
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Its illegal in this country. You can try to change it but if they found out you'll be in big trouble
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Its illegal in this country. You can try to change it but if they found out you'll be in big trouble
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In the united states, last I've read, is that they just fine you a hefty fine. And I think getting banned from whichever carrier you were using. It's not like you go to jail. Unless something gas changed.
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I would try the different apn people use to get around throttling; in the Hd2 days, data was 3 different packages: smartphone (windows devices), G1 (which would eventually become Android), and BlackBerry; if you mismatched them, your data would be touch and go at best.
Back then it was an easy fix; to do so now, you'd have to have them change your plan to the new ones WHICH WILL EXTEND YOUR CONTRACT LENGTH but will not affect your upgrade eligibility.
The hd2 is still such an amazing phone.
Hi... This is my first post here. I have a sprint galaxy S3 and I want to swap it for a GSM galaxy s3. So what should I do? I just call Sprint and ask them to stop the service? how will the person buying my phone port his/her sprint number to the S3 I sell them?
Just sell it on eBay or something. If the account is in good condition, no problems. If not, Sprint will flash the phone. If you advertise it, make sure you post the esn is clean (assuming it is).
You want to be sure all your account info is wiped. It's more than a factory reset. I don't know how to do it, but I suspect Sprint could tell you how. They helped me when I was activating my last used phone (mopho).
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Just sell it on eBay or something. If the account is in good condition, no problems. If not, Sprint will flash the phone. If you advertise it, make sure you post the esn is clean (assuming it is).
You want to be sure all your account info is wiped. It's more than a factory reset. I don't know how to do it, but I suspect Sprint could tell you how. They helped me when I was activating my last used phone (mopho).
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Thanks! but how do i find out if it has a good or bad ESN? I'm using the phone right now and I don't see any such message. But is there a specific way to find that out?
What's ESN? is it IMEI?
If you are using it, you have a good ESN. If you let the account with a debt Sprint will give you a bad ESN or easier, your phone will be blacklisted, and nobody would be able to use it, unless they flash to another carrier.
In other words
GOOD ESN = More money.
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So how much are you asking and what color is it
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If you are using it, you have a good ESN. If you let the account with a debt Sprint will give you a bad ESN or easier, your phone will be blacklisted, and nobody would be able to use it, unless they flash to another carrier.
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GOOD ESN = More money.
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ok I get that part... but this is my current active phone. if i sell it to someone he will be able to use my number and make/receive calls from this S3 right?
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So how much are you asking and what color is it
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it's white color. I don't know how much to ask
I used it for like 2 days and i got my nexus 4 shipped now. So I don't want this one.. I thought nexus will never get shipped. I will now go for tmobile $30 100 minutes plan.. that's why I'm selling it
You have to close your account with Sprint, and pay the current bill. Then you can sell the phone and the person have to make a account or change current device with Sprint, but not use the same number.
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Read the ESN (many programs that can do.this) and if it matches the number on the battery then you have yourself a 'good' ESN
If you have had it to days I would jyst return it. Cancellation is 350 if youve had it less than 6 months with sprint. You got a 14 day return policy. Or if you dont care about your credit put an old Sprint phone in place of the S3...that will free up the ESN to use for someone else and just not pay your bill.
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Thanks! but how do i find out if it has a good or bad ESN? I'm using the phone right now and I don't see any such message. But is there a specific way to find that out?
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http://checkesnfree.com
Open the dialer and hit *#06#. That's your imei
I was unaware of this. Alternatively there is ##786#
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I see this as unlikely, but would i be able to bring my phone to japan and place it on one of their carriers? Ive read they use cdma, but how much does that matter when it comes to radios or bands? I just bought this phone and found out a week later i will be moving there in november. Not too happy about this since i paid retail for this beast.
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I see this as unlikely, but would i be able to bring my phone to japan and place it on one of their carriers? Ive read they use cdma, but how much does that matter when it comes to radios or bands? I just bought this phone and found out a week later i will be moving there in november. Not too happy about this since i paid retail for this beast.
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It's called unlocking and basically unlocks your phone so it can use any carrier. Now it's illegal in the US but call up your provider ask and for the unlock code anyway. Say you have to go there in a couple of day and you need to use the phone. Normally they'll give it to you via email and the instructions are included in the email. All you would have to do after you unlock the phone is replace the sim card and you'll all good to go. Now don't go online and buy the unlock codes from websites because most of them are scams and even though some might work, its not worth giving them your credit card number and then be in deep yogurt. Hoped this helped
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It's called unlocking and basically unlocks your phone so it can use any carrier. Now it's illegal in the US but call up your provider ask and for the unlock code anyway. Say you have to go there in a couple of day and you need to use the phone. Normally they'll give it to you via email and the instructions are included in the email. All you would have to do after you unlock the phone is replace the sim card and you'll all good to go. Now don't go online and buy the unlock codes from websites because most of them are scams and even though some might work, its not worth giving them your credit card number and then be in deep yogurt. Hoped this helped
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Sounds great except these don't have removable sim cards.
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Sounds great except these don't have removable sim cards.
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If they don't have removable some cards then....I have no idea, sorry. Maybe call them up anyway and ask. But wait, what phone are you using? It can't be the nexus 10.
I will assume he has a sprint galaxy note 2 because he posted in this section.
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I will assume he has a sprint galaxy note 2 because he posted in this section.
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You can probably get kddi mobile in japan to add your esn for you. I'm almost positive they use the same 3g frequency as sprint, however I doubt you'll be able to get lte.
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You can probably get kddi mobile in japan to add your esn for you. I'm almost positive they use the same 3g frequency as sprint, however I doubt you'll be able to get lte.
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I sure hope so! Thanks for the answer, I'll look in to it.
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I sure hope so! Thanks for the answer, I'll look in to it.
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If kddi won't add the esn, you could get a cheap phone thru them and flash your note with cdma ws or find another mvno that will add it. Now that sprint and softbank are looking at a partnership I think softbanks carrier's will accept sprint phones for Americans that come over without too much hassle. Japan has a large cdma network (largest outside of US) and use the same frequencys and sprint as vzw so 3g should be no problem and neither should finding someone to add your esn over there. They're pretty good about letting Americans use their own devices when they come over.
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