After using Easy Phone Sync app to transfer my SMS messages(4 years worth) and music from itunes, my phone continues to lock up from time to time when trying to text. It took a long while for the messages to come through and i stored them to my 64gb Sandisk card. I have no clue what is making it do this, but it is becoming a pain. Any ideas what could be causing this or is there a better app to transfer the SMS messages?
4 yrs? Dude. Hah. I'm wondering if sqlite isn't choking on that much data. Do you really need to keep that archive active? There are apps that will push your messages to a gmail calendar of your choosing. Look for "sms backup" in the market. Once done, pare down your message storage.
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4 yrs? Dude. Hah. I'm wondering if sqlite isn't choking on that much data. Do you really need to keep that archive active? There are apps that will push your messages to a gmail calendar of your choosing. Look for "sms backup" in the market. Once done, pare down your message storage.
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I am knid of new with the whole Android platform, so I am not sure what the sqlite is, but I do agree that something is causing an issue with the number of messages trying to go to the phone. I also found out they are not going to the Sd card but to the internal storage. The thing is when i checked storage before and after they seem to not be taking up much room. Maybe .7gb. I just wanted them on the phone for convenience more than anything.
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I am knid of new with the whole Android platform, so I am not sure what the sqlite is, but I do agree that something is causing an issue with the number of messages trying to go to the phone. I also found out they are not going to the Sd card but to the internal storage. The thing is when i checked storage before and after they seem to not be taking up much room. Maybe .7gb. I just wanted them on the phone for convenience more than anything.
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Almost all data is stored in a database. In the case of android it uses sqlite3. It generally has good performance, but with that much data... and, yes, sms/mms data is stored internally (/data/providers/com.android.something.telephony.provider, more or less). So it's not so much that the filesize is big, but having to manage that many references on all reads (to show you proper conversation threading) will choke it after a point.
Hope that clarifies a bit.
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Almost all data is stored in a database. In the case of android it uses sqlite3. It generally has good performance, but with that much data... and, yes, sms/mms data is stored internally (/data/providers/com.android.something.telephony.provider, more or less). So it's not so much that the filesize is big, but having to manage that many references on all reads (to show you proper conversation threading) will choke it after a point.
Hope that clarifies a bit.
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Definately does. So I am going to try SMS Backup + to get them off the phone, then how would I go about Paring down the messages that are on the phone now so i dont continue to have this issue. Again I appreciate the help.
From almost any sms app you should be able to long press on the topic and select "delete thread"
I use handcent sms. It has an option from within a thread to save all/in/out mms to a folder of your choosing. I do that before I delete a thread.
I try to be good about cleaning when threads reach 300 or so, which is easy to hit with some friends and family over 2 days.
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Oh. When deleting, at this point, it may appear to lock up again - it has a lot of data to clean up. So start deleting your threads when you have time to kill and can put your phone down for 10+ minutes at a time.
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Downloaded handcent. I'll play with it for a while and see what happens. Thanks for all the help. Phone is still backing up all 33,000+ mssgs to gmail. Guess I am a hoarder!
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After using Easy Phone Sync app to transfer my SMS messages(4 years worth) and music from itunes, my phone continues to lock up from time to time when trying to text. It took a long while for the messages to come through and i stored them to my 64gb Sandisk card. I have no clue what is making it do this, but it is becoming a pain. Any ideas what could be causing this or is there a better app to transfer the SMS messages?
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Do you have any screen locker installed (e.g., Go Locker)? If yes then it might be the cause if you also have some other locking enabled as well e.g., pin or pattern lock.
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Hi
My dash seems to be really laggy lately.
Is it due to the build up of txt msgs?
I'm on 6.1 and the phone seems to be a lot slower than it was when i first got it. Any tips on how to speed things up or do i need to delete all txt msgs??
any tips please?
I forget where in the default tmo Rom is task manager, but you could always kill text messaging after you're done using it.
I updated my dash to ricky's rom maybe the 2nd day after i bought it, its got omap overclocking and i've sped up my dash that way.
Perhaps you need to see what programs that you have are running all the time (with task manager) and see if disabling/uninstalling apps would help.
im running kavana 6.1 and its just recently been really laggy.
I clear my tasks and still lags. I starting to think its my txt msg logs since i txt anywhere from 2000-8000 a month and never delete any of them.
Is that the case?
Yeah, dude!!
Holy, shizah!!!
That many. Not to sound like an ass, but hell yeah, that's the prob. you need to run a script that either copies these to a text file somewhere routinely, or just straight up delete these.
Let me give everyone a word to the wise. For a fact, the more messages that are unread on your phone, the worse off the battery life will be. When you have unread voicemails, text messages, email messages, you are destroying your memory and your phones battery.
If you wanna seee a noticeable difference in both memory and battery life, read and delete all old messages of any variety. This goes for non smartphones and smartphones. This is a general rule of thumb. If anyone feels the need to wax intellectual, please, kill that idea. It's a moot point. I know this to be the case, and you can argue all day. Facts are facts.
Hope this helps, man. If you need me to write you an app that eats your text messages routinely or copies them to storage or whatever, just pm me. We can figure out a solution that suits you best!! Later.
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im running kavana 6.1 and its just recently been really laggy.
I clear my tasks and still lags. I starting to think its my txt msg logs since i txt anywhere from 2000-8000 a month and never delete any of them.
Is that the case?
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Holy, shizah!!!
That many. Not to sound like an ass, but hell yeah, that's the prob. you need to run a script that either copies these to a text file somewhere routinely, or just straight up delete these.
Let me give everyone a word to the wise. For a fact, the more messages that are unread on your phone, the worse off the battery life will be. When you have unread voicemails, text messages, email messages, you are destroying your memory and your phones battery.
If you wanna seee a noticeable difference in both memory and battery life, read and delete all old messages of any variety. This goes for non smartphones and smartphones. This is a general rule of thumb. If anyone feels the need to wax intellectual, please, kill that idea. It's a moot point. I know this to be the case, and you can argue all day. Facts are facts.
Hope this helps, man. If you need me to write you an app that eats your text messages routinely or copies them to storage or whatever, just pm me. We can figure out a solution that suits you best!! Later.
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Maybe you could try Jeyo Mobile Extender for Outlook. It syncronizes all your sms to your pc, so you can delete them from your phone and still don't lose them. Also you can send sms from outlook, so it's a little faster.
Hope it helped
Cheers
Use Chome Configurator to remove any home screen shortcuts you don't need.
That's all I've done so far, and it made it REALLY fast. No oc'ing needed.
One often over looked issue is the Notification Que, if you dont clean it out your device will slow down. I once deleted over 500kb of old entries after a month of use. Now I delete it weekly
what do u mean by the notification que. how do i go about in doing that?
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what do u mean by the notification que. how do i go about in doing that?
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The simple way is to use SKtools, it does pretty much everything you need as far as device hidden settings and cleaning management.
Is there any way to delete the text messages on the phone from a pc? I've been trying to delete these messages for the longest. It takes about 15 minutes for each contact's messages. I tried to delete it using menu>tools>empty deleted items but when I rebooted my phone after about 500 messages getting deleted they reappeared right back in the inbox. Im now goin to the deleted items folder and deleting all from there instead. I hope it works, but it is still slow.
outerdepth, can I pm you for that script you wrote to delete messages? I really need it.
I receive, on a fairly frequent basis, the same text message from a coworker of mine. They ask for a particular password (because they can never remember it) and I give it to them. It can, at times, be a little annoying, but it did get me thinking...
Is there a program that'll auto reply to text messages conforming to a certain pattern and from a certain party? Is there a program that'll make it so any text from Bob saying "whats the pw" will automatically be replied to with the password?
I searched and found a whole bunch of stuff, but don't think they're exactly what you're looking for. Perhaps someone else personally knows of a particular application that is suitable.
But anyway, I just want to say that you need to file a complaint against that co-worker!
-Sharing passwords should be against your company policy.
- Releasing passwords via an unsecure medium (ie, SMS) should also be against policy.
- Also, if you've sent him the password via SMS before, he should be smart enough to just look through his SMS history for it.
By the way, it's not worth installing an application just because of 1 person's memory problem. You should grab his mobile and save the password as a note on his device. Super cheap dumbphones have notes applications these days...
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I searched and found a whole bunch of stuff, but don't think they're exactly what you're looking for. Perhaps someone else personally knows of a particular application that is suitable.
But anyway, I just want to say that you need to file a complaint against that co-worker!
-Sharing passwords should be against your company policy.
- Releasing passwords via an unsecure medium (ie, SMS) should also be against policy.
- Also, if you've sent him the password via SMS before, he should be smart enough to just look through his SMS history for it.
By the way, it's not worth installing an application just because of 1 person's memory problem. You should grab his mobile and save the password as a note on his device. Super cheap dumbphones have notes applications these days...
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It's a screen saver password for a demo computer. There's only one account on the computer - 'demo'. The fact that it even has a password is fairly ridiculous, imho - it sits in storage until an employee takes it out and prospective customers aren't left alone with it. But alas, I don't have much say in the matter.
Hi,
I would like to keep my voicemails when I am trying out other roms. I have a Nand backup & when I restore to Fresh 03 (what I use the most) I have my voicemails. I am guessing they are located somewhere on the internal storage vs the SD card.
Is there a way to backup & restore those files as well? I would guess I could copy them from \voicemails (or where ever they are) to \sd\richtj99\data, then copy them back once I flashed?
Thanks
Rich
I can't believe I'm answering this... voicemail is flowing magically around you...
*you grab a colorful wave of sheer delight...
BEHOLD! I have flashed your phone so that it never loses its voicemail in a flash...
now its as if your voicemail stays in the network
Ok, I guess I will restate the question. My voicemails seem to be physically downloaded to my phone. When i reflash, all my old voicemails are gone. So when I try a new rom, I only have all new voicemails.
I am glad that voicemails flow all around you, but on my Evo, they dont repopulate as downloads.
Maybe its due to the visual voicemail?
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Tilde88 said:
I can't believe I'm answering this... voicemail is flowing magically around you...
*you grab a colorful wave of sheer delight...
BEHOLD! I have flashed your phone so that it never loses its voicemail in a flash...
now its as if your voicemail stays in the network
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I lol'd
best way is to get a GV account and the GV app and set up your phone for conditional forwarding(make GV your voicemail) and then they are all saved and transcribed when you get new ones.(it's like magic)
You can also email your voicemails to yourself in order to back them up.
Using ADB or any root file manager you can backup you voicemails below. I use root explorer instead of ADB because I usually flash my rom when I don't have a computer.
Code:
adb pull /data/data/com.coremobility.app.vnotes C:\com.coremobility.app.vnotes
Wipe and Flash your rom and
Code:
adb push C:\com.coremobility.app.vnotes /data/data/com.coremobility.app.vnotes
adb reboot recovery
Once you are in recovery do a fix uid permission and restart (fix uid permission should be in the other on the menu). If you do not complete step then when you restart your phone you will loose all your voicemails that you have restore. I hope this help you.
Edit: The fix uid permission is assuming you are using Amon_Ra's recovery for Evo.
Get Google Voice. Problem solved.
Tilde88 said:
I can't believe I'm answering this... voicemail is flowing magically around you...
*you grab a colorful wave of sheer delight...
BEHOLD! I have flashed your phone so that it never loses its voicemail in a flash...
now its as if your voicemail stays in the network
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Come on now, that was not called for. He asked a legitimate question that I'm willing to bet a lot of the members may not know the answer to. That response was not helpful in the least and is counterproductive to the purpose of this site. In the future, for the sake of maintaining an atmosphere that is conducive to helping one another, please refrain from making such negative and demeaning posts. It is totally uncalled for, unnecessary, and unacceptable.
I would second using Google Voice. It integrates so well with Android it's almost a shame not to use it.
Tilde88 said:
I can't believe I'm answering this... voicemail is flowing magically around you...
*you grab a colorful wave of sheer delight...
BEHOLD! I have flashed your phone so that it never loses its voicemail in a flash...
now its as if your voicemail stays in the network
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This
RichTJ99 said:
Maybe its due to the visual voicemail?
Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk
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Visual voicemail stores them on your phone even if you delete them in the IVR prompts when calling. He wants to know what directory they are stored in. Good job making fun of somebody for not knowing something when you didn't know how it worked yourself.
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Visual voicemail stores them on your phone even if you delete them in the IVR prompts when calling. He wants to know what directory they are stored in. Good job making fun of somebody for not knowing something when you didn't know how it worked yourself.
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EXACTLY!!! This forum is getting out of hand with some of the people's nasty attitudes. People are getting to be so quick to want to jump on someone for the slightest thing. I thought the OP asked a very good question yet even still he gets attacked for no reason. Guys, WE CAN DO BETTER THAN THIS. Simply put, if you don't have anything nice/useful to say then don't say anything.
I agree with some people jumping in and giving comments that is not needed and does not even help the OP. I hope my first reply to him help him backup his voicemail as it does for me.
Everyone is thinking way too much about this one. Just use TB, problem solved. OP, look at the guide in my sig for more information.
Also, if you want to avoid some of the comments you received, post questions in the Q/A section. That is what it is for. Not saying those comments are justified...
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Everyone is thinking way too much about this one. Just use TB, problem solved. OP, look at the guide in my sig for more information.
Also, if you want to avoid some of the comments you received, post questions in the Q/A section. That is what it is for. Not saying those comments are justified...
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He would get those rude responses no matter where he posted it, ignorant people read those Q/A section too. Thanks for asking the question OP this is something i would like to get figured out as well
coderli said:
Using ADB or any root file manager you can backup you voicemails below. I use root explorer instead of ADB because I usually flash my rom when I don't have a computer.
Code:
adb pull /data/data/com.coremobility.app.vnotes C:\com.coremobility.app.vnotes
Wipe and Flash your rom and
Code:
adb push C:\com.coremobility.app.vnotes /data/data/com.coremobility.app.vnotes
adb reboot recovery
Once you are in recovery do a fix uid permission and restart (fix uid permission should be in the other on the menu). If you do not complete step then when you restart your phone you will loose all your voicemails that you have restore. I hope this help you.
Edit: The fix uid permission is assuming you are using Amon_Ra's recovery for Evo.
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Good, informative answer. Thanks, coderli.
I extracted my voicemails from a DATA backup and put them on my sdcard. You can leave the voicemails on the sdcard and play them using OI or Astro. You do lose the info on who it's from and when, but at least you have the audio.
As for the rest of you if you don't actually have the answer to the question, why are you even replying? (rhetorical)
I use YouMail. it's awesome. You can have a custom greeting for anyone (music, clips from shows, cartoons) and it shows the persons name (first and last, like caller ID does) if they are not in your contacts. Oh, and it also saves the voicemails on their servers so you can flash different roms and still keep all your voice mails. Only thing is it costs money to transcribe and the voicemails dont get to you right away sometimes.
OgremustCrush said:
I would second using Google Voice. It integrates so well with Android it's almost a shame not to use it.
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sprint charged me for forwarding voicemails to my Google voice so i quit using it
I use the youmail app personally, it has worked perfect for me so far.
mrpuffin said:
sprint charged me for forwarding voicemails to my Google voice so i quit using it
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#28xxxxxxxx ?
or #72xxxxxxx?
My wife's EVO is getting really slow when using the stock Sense Messages Application. She has thousands of texts... I've tried everything to try to delete them but the application keeps crashing in the process. I've even gone to the Applications menu item to the Messages Application and cleared data. It told me that all the data would be erased. I went back into the application and they are all still there.
I need to get this thing cleared out... Why is it so difficult? How do I delete them?
I'm thinking my only option is to do a factory data reset. I've searched google and this forum and haven't found any answers but a lot of people with the same problems.
I'm getting scared cause she came from an iPhone and she's starting to regret it.
Mine crashed also, at least it wouldn't let me open pictures.
Just for giggles try downloading handcent from the market and see if it will let you delete the messages.
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My wife's EVO is getting really slow when using the stock Sense Messages Application. She has thousands of texts... I've tried everything to try to delete them but the application keeps crashing in the process. I've even gone to the Applications menu item to the Messages Application and cleared data. It told me that all the data would be erased. I went back into the application and they are all still there.
I need to get this thing cleared out... Why is it so difficult? How do I delete them?
I'm thinking my only option is to do a factory data reset. I've searched google and this forum and haven't found any answers but a lot of people with the same problems.
I'm getting scared cause she came from an iPhone and she's starting to regret it.
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try "sms Manager" from the market.. works great on my evo..
OK, I figured it out. There must be a timer that the application uses which alerts to forceclose because the app is not responding. However if I hit "wait" over and over it will eventually delete what I want.
I don't know why it's taking so long to delete a thread of texts... A thread of just 200 texts can take like 5 min to delete.
that is AOSP/Android as a whole is glaringly terrible. IOS and even my BB curve could delete months of texts extremely faster with terrible os and hardware
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OK, I figured it out. There must be a timer that the application uses which alerts to forceclose because the app is not responding. However if I hit "wait" over and over it will eventually delete what I want.
I don't know why it's taking so long to delete a thread of texts... A thread of just 200 texts can take like 5 min to delete.
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that is AOSP/Android as a whole is glaringly terrible. IOS and even my BB curve could delete months of texts extremely faster with terrible os and hardware
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I would definitely disagree with android being "terrible". This problem could be directly related to htc sense/messaging app, or who knows what. I highly doubt this is related to the OS itself. I guess I could be wrong though.
try it on any AOSP rom, pretty sure its a function of the OS, could be wrong
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I would definitely disagree with android being "terrible". This problem could be directly related to htc sense/messaging app, or who knows what. I highly doubt this is related to the OS itself. I guess I could be wrong though.
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I have the same issue on my evo, but if I just wait it out it eventually deletes them. My friend has a hero and it took him 4 hours to delete several thousand texts...I'm curious why it takes so long.
Also I was terribly annoyed by how laggy the stock messaging was, so I tried handcent, and that was just as laggy. Then I tried chompsms and it runs a bit faster. Plus it's customizable so you can make it look however you want it to
If her phone is rooted you can use this option.
The fastest way to delete messages granted this will delete every message you have but it works.
use root explorer or
es file explorer and in the setting go to root options and have root explorer checked. ( you need to have a rooted phone to do this.
go to the root of the phone you will have many folders called data, sys, system, etc.
navigate to
data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases
in that folder you will see a
mmssms.db
this has MMS and SMS. now you can delete it or move it to the SD Card just make it so its not in that directory any more.
Now reboot the phone and every text and pic mail will be gone as if you deleted it.
Hope this can help some of you.
On another note this can also be away for you to restore all your messages. just take the old mmssms.db file and replace it and reboot the phone and all your texts will be restored.
Reason why it take so long is because it has to rewrite a database when each text is deleted so lets say you have 3 texts this is what it will do.
delete the first text
write a new database
delete next text
write a new database
delete last text
write a new database
it does that to every text.
hope this helps someone if not you all.
enjoy.
DC13
WOW. Thank you for all that information. Completely makes sense.
dc13 said:
If her phone is rooted you can use this option.
The fastest way to delete messages granted this will delete every message you have but it works.
use root explorer or
es file explorer and in the setting go to root options and have root explorer checked. ( you need to have a rooted phone to do this.
go to the root of the phone you will have many folders called data, sys, system, etc.
navigate to
data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases
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Ok, I know you said to use those two apps but I tried to look in that data folder with Astro and there was nothing inside...
Does Astro not work for this?
No astro does not. ill pm you when i get home of a app that works sorry it wont be sooner.
Hi,
I recently reset my One M8, and I made a backup of my SMS with MyBackupPro, i used it a lot of time with my OneX.
I tried to restore this backup (.mbp), but it's not working with SMS, and buggy with Call History.
I have about 10k sms, so it's pretty important for me to get it back...
Can someone help me ?
If it's that important to hold on to 10000 messages, might I suggest you back them up with multiple apps to be safe?
I think you may be out of luck... They either restore or they don't. The app probably can't handle the amount you have and is having trouble restoring them. You could contact the app makers for support.
You may find things easier to let go of the past and clear out some of those messages occasionally. Seriously.
I use sms backup, when I remember, and have never had trouble. There's titanium backup too... And probably many others.
Again, with that kind of number of messages, you may see issues with any of them.
I'm using "SMS backup", with something like 2k sms, configured it to save the backup on external sd. never had a problem.
Did you take a nandroid backup before you reset?
If you did, there is some excellent functionality in an app called 'Nandroid Manager' which enables you to restore your SMS from the nandroid backup.
Hi, thanks for reply
I think I should explain the whole situation.
I have Zimbra at work, and I wanted to sync my stuff with an "ActiveSync" account.
So I added this account, and Android asked me to apply some security policies, like crypt the SD card, and activate a PIN to unlock.
I accepted, thinking that I could change it later.
But impossible to disable all this security stuff, it was really annoying to type a PIN everytime...
Then I decided to just make a backup and restore from stock.
I did, but now the backup can't be restored.
It shows a progress bar, like it's working, and ask me to reboot the phone, but after that still no SMS.
I thought it may be because the phone was crypted when I did the Backup, so I added again the ActiveSync, recrypted the phone, and tried to restore in this state. Still nothing...
KJ said:
If it's that important to hold on to 10000 messages, might I suggest you back them up with multiple apps to be safe?
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Nevermind that...I don't think any group of people can be so important as to collectively message 10K times and if they are truly important then perhaps it'll be better to talk in person instead of SMS's
My total SMS's - +- 100(Total) over the last 5months.
Not important people - don't get sms'd or phoned.
Important people - get spoken to in person, they are to important to me to merely communicate via "messages"
Rest - probably promotions, companies wanting more money by selling crap in other words - Crap.
BerndM14 said:
Nevermind that...I don't think any group of people can be so important as to collectively message 10K times and if they are truly important then perhaps it'll be better to talk in person instead of SMS's
My total SMS's - +- 100(Total) over the last 5months.
Not important people - don't get sms'd or phoned.
Important people - get spoken to in person, they are to important to me to merely communicate via "messages"
Rest - probably promotions, companies wanting more money by selling crap in other words - Crap.
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I text most people I know even work... But I usually start with a clean inbox after every flash. I've yet to find a reason to keep any texts. Yesterday is yesterday. ?
But to each their own!