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2.3 OTA Update

I'm hearing of some unbranded UK Desires receiving an OTA update to Gingerbread, has anyone else seen this? Nothing on mine yet, and since it's unbranded I imagine it's not a staggered rollout.
Anyone know what's going on, or are my sources false?

I've not heard anything to maybe a fail. I guess if you find HTC's RUU then it will be rolling out soon. About now is when it's rolling out so maybe so.

Well after some checking I can confirm that a desire, possibly on TMob got a system update a couple days ago, but can't confirm whether it was 2.3 or just a pre update of some sort, also not sure if the desire is branded or not.
unfortunately the phone is a work phone that my friend doesn't have currently so can't get any more details at this moment.

Nothing here. Unbranded handset :-(
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weeks before you will see the ota update you will see it here:
http://911sniper.blog.163.com/blog/...080065086081094095085082083074084086094075085
it' s not there yet, so I wouldn't hold my breath

godutch said:
weeks before you will see the ota update you will see it here:
http://911sniper.blog.163.com/blog/...080065086081094095085082083074084086094075085
it' s not there yet, so I wouldn't hold my breath
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That site is moved here:
http://www.911htc.com/category/bravo

haven't seen or heard anything on this.

HTC Official Update
I received the following email today from HTC Customer Care in response to a question as to when they will fix the widely reported Google leak (potential security flaw in Android).
In regards to your last response, in order to to get the security update when it is being issued, you have to have a base of the 2.3 Gingerbread update on your handset, in which case will be released this summer for devices such as HTC Desire.
Currently we do not have a specific date as to when the 2.3 will be released for other handsets as at this time the update is only being issued to HTC Desire HD and HTC Incredible S.

summer? geeez... I thought it was going to be anytime soon this month... Bit fed up of waiting...
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There's always a custom rom
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Lothaen said:
There's always a custom rom
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...based on GB leak whose base is buggered. Until we get an official OTA we can't hope for stable GB Sense roms.

erklat said:
...based on GB leak whose base is buggered. Until we get an official OTA we can't hope for stable GB Sense roms.
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I'm using one which is pretty stable at the moment based on that
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I asked a HTC representative at work last week, she said the HTC Desire will stay with Android 2.2

Lothaen said:
I'm using one which is pretty stable at the moment based on that
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Check my sig. I can't say I noticed something actually does not work, which I can say for some other roms people swore are rock stable, but it drains battery and there is obvious lag especially with alternative launchers and animations. That said, I can cope with some lag, but I can't cope with memory leaks, bootloops, ads etc.
So you can't just yet say it is as it is meant to be, but it comes to that this actually works. Not extra smooth, but it does.

slasher-fun said:
I asked a HTC representative at work last week, she said the HTC Desire will stay with Android 2.2
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best reason to jump to a gingerbread ROM

Didn't HTC already announce a few times that the Desire will get the update...
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Haven't HTC announced it already iirc... also didnt 3 in the UK state they are testing it on the Desire?
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my girlfriends brothers best friends uncle slept with a htc nco, he said the Desire would get gingerbread for sure but would be made to wait for it until all the rich kids had jumped ship for greener more expensive pastures

any news..?
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iLHaNroID said:
any news..?
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in short.
no

[Htc Official]Statement about ICS

You can read the full statement from HTC below.
We are excited about the latest update for Android, Ice Cream Sandwich, and are currently reviewing its features and functionality to determine our upgrade plans. Our goal for Android updates is to give every customer an improved user experience, which means balancing each phone's unique hardware, HTC Sense experience and the Android kernel. While our goal is to upgrade as many of our recent devices as possible, we are committed to maintaining every phone's performance and usability first. Please stay tuned for more updates on specific device upgrade plans

desire is NOT getting ICS update !

expler said:
desire is NOT getting ICS update !
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Well, no surprise there, since they had huge troubles updating it to 2.3

sleekykenny said:
You can read the full statement from HTC below.
We are excited about the latest update for Android, Ice Cream Sandwich, and are currently reviewing its features and functionality to determine our upgrade plans. Our goal for Android updates is to give every customer an improved user experience, which means balancing each phone's unique hardware, HTC Sense experience and the Android kernel. While our goal is to upgrade as many of our recent devices as possible, we are committed to maintaining every phone's performance and usability first. Please stay tuned for more updates on specific device upgrade plans
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Huh?

It will be great if Desire receives ICS but I doubt because of marketing reasons. The guys from HTC want to sell their new phones to old customers as well as new ones so the old Desire won't get an ICS update, as it didn't get an Gingerbread one (with new Sense).

Desire isn't a recent device anymore
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Yeah, but I think there's a bit of good will at stake too. Many people are on contract with months left and aren't willing to shell fora new device just yet.
If HTC nurture the customers that have had a good experience with the desire (I'm one of them) perhaps they won't be lured off to samsung, motorolla, lg, huwai, nokia etc come end of contract.
I reckon if they could do it with sense they would.
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nitens said:
Yeah, but I think there's a bit of good will at stake too. Many people are on contract with months left and aren't willing to shell fora new device just yet.
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Then you either spit moar dough when you buy it to get shorter contract, or you take a two year, and then don't whine every second about it. I won't even mention shelling two year contract in early 2011. and similar silly moves.

I think some of you are forgetting the Gingerbread update saga.
After several announcements and retractions from HTC only an unsupported developer build was released.
ICS will only ever be a custom build from the dev community.
Fingers crossed for CM9, hardware permitting
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Lothaen said:
Desire isn't a recent device anymore
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Desire was never a recent device in the first place.

If HTC could release ICS loaded with their sense experience, while leaving room in the rom for carrier apps they would. Perhaps it's naive of me, but there you have it.
Problem isn't the age, or the cpu, or even wanting to force you into a newer phone. It's the limited memory with which to drive a relatively high pixel count on the screen and a version of software that probably wasn't even dreamt of when the desire was getting her specs.
The development community will possibly be able to shoehorn ICS on, without sense, but htc is saying they don't have time to bother with that level of customisation for an older device. If it were simple they'd do it.
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nitens said:
If HTC could release ICS loaded with their sense experience, while leaving room in the rom for carrier apps they would. Perhaps it's naive of me, but there you have it.
Problem isn't the age, or the cpu, or even wanting to force you into a newer phone. It's the limited memory with which to drive a relatively high pixel count on the screen and a version of software that probably wasn't even dreamt of when the desire was getting her specs.
The development community will possibly be able to shoehorn ICS on, without sense, but htc is saying they don't have time to bother with that level of customisation for an older device. If it were simple they'd do it.
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So theoretically you are saying that phones such as Desire HD will get it as it is able to fit Sense and ICS in? Highly improbable.
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itachi1706 said:
So theoretically you are saying that phones such as Desire HD will get it as it is able to fit Sense and ICS in? Highly improbable.
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Actually, the desire HD should run ics and sense really well, cuz sensation XL is just a overclocked desire HD

If im going to buy a new phone im getting Samsung anyway

Samsung do the same for galacxy S so....
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sebastianlow said:
Actually, the desire HD should run ics and sense really well, cuz sensation XL is just a overclocked desire HD
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Yes it probably will. The problem remains on whether HTC will bother to update it. After all, its 15 months old.
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Desire will not get ICS update...

chrisath said:
Samsung do the same for galacxy S so....
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And Sony-Ericsson, and Motorola, and LG,...

Htc needs to learn something from the xda developers they look so inmature even android 2.3 was a big problem

HTC's making money out of selling phones. The End.
Not from supporting new shinny flagship os's for "Mezozoic" phones.
Look at Apple, they support almost all new os's for deprecated phones but with small feature set and performance penalty.
Is that what you want?

Wildfire S Sense 3.0 Update

I emailed HTC about the possibility of a sense 3.0 uodate and this is the reply
Thank you for your email regarding your HTC Wildfire S.
My name is David and I am a Technical Support Agent for the HTC Written Team.
I understand that you wish to inquire if HTC would be releasing the Sense 3.o update for the HTC Wildfire S.
We do appreciate your interest in our products. HTC is always working on new ways to enhance our products and improve our overall customer experience and satisfaction. I do apologise however Josh, but the HTC Wildfire S would not be receiving the Sense 3.0 update. This is due the hardware requirements of this phone as it is incapable of running this update. Attempting to do so could drastically reduce your phones performance. I do apologise for the inconvenience this may be causing you.
So devs(modpunk, benjamin etc) i think you have a challange on your hands. Sense 3.0 for the wildfire s...come on!

midgetman7782 said:
I emailed HTC about the possibility of a sense 3.0 uodate and this is the reply
Thank you for your email regarding your HTC Wildfire S.
My name is David and I am a Technical Support Agent for the HTC Written Team.
I understand that you wish to inquire if HTC would be releasing the Sense 3.o update for the HTC Wildfire S.
We do appreciate your interest in our products. HTC is always working on new ways to enhance our products and improve our overall customer experience and satisfaction. I do apologise however Josh, but the HTC Wildfire S would not be receiving the Sense 3.0 update. This is due the hardware requirements of this phone as it is incapable of running this update. Attempting to do so could drastically reduce your phones performance. I do apologise for the inconvenience this may be causing you.
So devs(modpunk, benjamin etc) i think you have a challange on your hands. Sense 3.0 for the wildfire s...come on!
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Well, we already know it.
They really don't care about customers. Luckily, we have great devs who are going to port ICS first (it is ported, but isn't working fully), then Sense 4.0, and maybe then Sense 3.0
Please sign this petition for getting ICS with Sense 4.0 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1626434

We've already knew that.
By the way, you do realize that sense 3.5 is ported for our phone?
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Yeah, I was using it, im now using cm9 though
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[Update]
I sent this guy a reply, asking about a sense 3.5 update like the explorer, and the reply? A big pile of HTC crap:
I do apologise Josh, but I am unable to provide you with this information as there has been no official confirmation yet about HTC releasing an update for the HTC Wildfire S. However, as explained in my previous email, HTC is always working on new ways to enhance our products and improve our overall customer experience and satisfaction.
Sorry guys
-Josh

midgetman7782 said:
A big pile of HTC crap
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droid000 said:
Well, we already know it.
They really don't care about customers.
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Quoting myself from a related thread:
Cafekampuchia said:
You say this like it's somehow HTC's fault. Just like every other company, their resources are limited. They can't develop present and future models meanwhile throwing development resources at old devices to keep all of them current with Android and Sense. That's an entirely unreasonable expectation and HTC doesn't owe it too you. You want a new ROM, buy a new phone so HTC's devs can eat and pay the electric bill. Like Samsung, Nokia, Apple, etc. HTC is in the business of selling phones, not giving away free software. Nobody expects you to work for free, do they?
What's all the whining about anyway? If you have a Marvel, go get a Sense 3.5 ROM already. I've been using it for months and it works great.
If you have MarvelC, whine to the devs. Several have been started and none finished.
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You guys just flash a Rom or get a new phone, especially gsm users, you guys have all the support here so take advantage of it! This phone is outdated, HTC can't make updates for every phone
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If HTC were to hire me, I would provide a sense 4 update to the wildfire s then 'accidentally' leak sense's source code.
P.S. I would also laugh in the CEOs face because I know I would be fired.
P.P.S. Yes I know the government would be on my arseeee... bottom.
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Hope that HTC will hire u and all wildfire s user would like u cause u leak some intimation so that dev can work on it
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Sense 4! Sense 4! Sense 4!
Yeah we can ask HTC a million times but as of now the possibility seems to be zero percent. But who needs sense 4 when we have CM9 now, in a matter of days a fully working CM9 ICS rom from modpunk http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1633198

benjamingwynn said:
If HTC were to hire me, I would provide a sense 4 update to the wildfire s then 'accidentally' leak sense's source code.
P.S. I would also laugh in the CEOs face because I know I would be fired.
P.P.S. Yes I know the government would be on my arseeee... bottom.
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@ben can you please port sense 3 or 4? i would be so happy if you could(with animations)?

klacenas said:
Sense 4! Sense 4! Sense 4!
Yeah we can ask HTC a million times but as of now the possibility seems to be zero percent. But who needs sense 4 when we have CM9 now, in a matter of days a fully working CM9 ICS rom from modpunk http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1633198
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Using it right now

Anyone know when Three UK will release Jelly Bean?

They've been pretty crappy with updates so far, so I'm hoping this won't be too long.
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melted_cow said:
They've been pretty crappy with updates so far, so I'm hoping this won't be too long.
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Good question! In case you are on a custom ROM, I have a link for the latest H3G RUU
Just relock bootloader, fastboot, connect to pc and run RUU

Of course nobody knows. It's not even available to unbranded Euro handsets yet

Do join this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1967859

melted_cow said:
They've been pretty crappy with updates so far, so I'm hoping this won't be too long.
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Really feel for you, I just got my email response from 3UK when asked when Jellybean will be available; "We do not have the updated version, it will be released at some point."
Just come from LG optimus 2x and all that saga over ics, moved to a htc one x hoping to be treated better lol only to find yet another ****ty company when it comes to customer support. Very dissapointed to say the least.
Bought the phone unlocked, alas it is still tied to 3 via CID :crying: was hoping this could be altered. Dead end there too.
All the best.

Carrier's are a pile of w#nk with updates. That is all.........

Did you try to read the thread, which is almost on top all the time, regarding JellyBean for HOX?
JaxzTReaper said:
Really feel for you, I just got my email response from 3UK when asked when Jellybean will be available; "We do not have the updated version, it will be released at some point."
Just come from LG optimus 2x and all that saga over ics, moved to a htc one x hoping to be treated better lol only to find yet another ****ty company when it comes to customer support. Very dissapointed to say the least.
Bought the phone unlocked, alas it is still tied to 3 via CID :crying: was hoping this could be altered. Dead end there too.
All the best.
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I do really feel for you too.
You are complaning from the update speed of a company, and you're switching to the other one, which has the biggest software package added on to Android, and you are expecting to get updates quickly.
I do, really do.

Actually Three UK were the first network to release both 1.28 and 2.17. They skipped 1.29 entirely due to radio issues. The main problem was the communication with the customer, it was terrible.
I tweeted them a few weeks back and they said they had the update in testing. But that could have been the bugged version that they didn't release globally.
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Three are launching the update this month
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I predict least 1.5 months just because its just the way it goes. I hate HTC and their stupid security restrictions! Last HTC device ever!
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kelvintisw said:
Do join this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1967859
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HTC sense 5

Just wondering what you guys think. Sense 5 is rumoured to launch this year. Do you think it will make it down to the one x family at all? Either officially or unofficially?
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I'll probably switch phones by then......

adicken said:
Just wondering what you guys think. Sense 5 is rumoured to launch this year. Do you think it will make it down to the one x family at all? Either officially or unofficially?
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Most probably, i doubt they'll drop development of a device only released last year with such great specs, it'd be stupid. Plus even if they drop official development... we're in XDA, the possibilities are endless lmfao.

Lady Android said:
Most probably, i doubt they'll drop development of a device only released last year with such great specs, it'd be stupid. Plus even if they drop official development... we're in XDA, the possibilities are endless lmfao.
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:thumbup:
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There are already some leaked images of Sense 5 dialer and keyboard. I don't know how valid they are, but for what it counts, I really like the looks..

Me too. Looking nice and clean.
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adicken said:
Just wondering what you guys think. Sense 5 is rumoured to launch this year. Do you think it will make it down to the one x family at all? Either officially or unofficially?
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HOX will receive updates a long time from now. at least an year, i would say 2 years, but let's be more realistic

Updates......... let's not go there, your going to start a *****ing frenzy akin to JB.
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I don't care if we get it officaly or not. We have Football, that means we can get even a Sense 6 custom rom)

Yeah, HTC metioned somewhere (cant find it) that flagship devices are ALWAYS supported for atleast 2 years from release.
If sense 5 comes before the 2 year then HOX should get it.

Wilks3y said:
Yeah, HTC metioned somewhere (cant find it) that flagship devices are ALWAYS supported for atleast 2 years from release.
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Your definition of supported might include new android releases, but I don't think "support" necessarily imply free OS upgrades...

Lady Android said:
Most probably, i doubt they'll drop development of a device only released last year with such great specs, it'd be stupid. Plus even if they drop official development... we're in XDA, the possibilities are endless lmfao.
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That's exactly what they did to the Desire about a year after it was released. We got an update from 2.1 to 2.2 and that was the end of that. Kept being promised an update for 2.3 for a couple of months both by HTC and my provider, 3 Network and in the end they ditched it and the entire Desire platform. Which brought me to root my phone and install Cm7 on it and try out a whole host of other roms

Wilks3y said:
Yeah, HTC metioned somewhere (cant find it) that flagship devices are ALWAYS supported for atleast 2 years from release.
If sense 5 comes before the 2 year then HOX should get it.
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Your definition of supported might include new android releases, but I don't think "support" necessarily imply free OS upgrades...
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In fact, my old Desire HD has been "abandoned" by HTC after 1 year and a few months from the release date. Thanks to the XDA community no longer has android 2.3

zdjaib said:
In fact, my old Desire HD has been "abandoned" by HTC after 1 year and a few months from the release date. Thanks to the XDA community no longer has android 2.3
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Sense 4+ come in about 18 months of sensation Launch and here we are with 3.6, no update until now.

idk
i dont even think if its coming to htc one x, i dont think so because the jellybean didnt roll out to the other one series as well, only on the one x so i really dont know

The HTC One X is a flagship device, I bet it will continue to be developed for the foreseeable future.
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Usually htc will upgrade previous flagship device with their newer os but with different sense. Just like the evo 3d and sensation that upgraded to ics but with sense 3.6 unlike one x that comes along with sense 4.0. So maybe we'll get sense 4.6 rather than sense 5?
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I fall in love with the new sense 5, but I'm thinking to buy a one x in order to wait for a lower price of the new one...
I already have htc sensation, the flagship of two years ago that don't received the sense 4 when htc one x and one s was released, and I'm pretty sure that one x won't receive the official sense 5.. maybe it will be update to android 4.2 and a light "sense 4.5", but nothing else in my opinion! I don't know if I should buy this device and use it for the next 7-8 months.. I'm so unsettled, I don't like tegra 3 cpu... Any one thinks that one x will have sense 5 rom ported from one? I know, it's too early, but I should take a decision in a short time!

I am pretty sure that the devs around here will be able to get it ported. :thumbup:
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I'm hoping that a backup of htc one image will be released soon, in order to start to have an opinion from devs... I'll decide if I should buy onex during the next week, and after that I've a short time...