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Why is video playback quality so poor?

It is really sketchy and not good quality at all, my GS2 has better video playback quality
YouTube looks crap, ESPN goals does too (you can hardly see the football) and so does any videos loaded through the browser
What are your thoughts?
Cheers

jameslfc5 said:
It is really sketchy and not good quality at all, my GS2 has better video playback quality
YouTube looks crap, ESPN goals does too (you can hardly see the football) and so does any videos loaded through the browser
What are your thoughts?
Cheers
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Are you on WiFi or 3G? Are you using HQ option? Have you tried watching HD film trailers? Like one of these: (that was the first trailer I saw, introduced by one of the XDA members)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh29_SERH0Y&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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jameslfc5 said:
It is really sketchy and not good quality at all, my GS2 has better video playback quality
YouTube looks crap, ESPN goals does too (you can hardly see the football) and so does any videos loaded through the browser
What are your thoughts?
Cheers
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xtrawise said:
Is that the same GS2 you tried to scratch the screen off before you got rid of it? (But still have it.)
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The one I got rid of had dead pixels so it was being exchanged by the network and that is the one I did the scratch test on because I didn't care what the network thought due to the way they pissed me around. The replacement which I am contracted to, I still have.
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juniorbattle said:
Are you on WiFi or 3G? Are you using HQ option? Have you tried watching HD film trailers? Like one of these: (that was the first trailer I saw, introduced by one of the XDA members)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh29_SERH0Y&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Yeah I've tried it mate, thanks... if I can I will try and get a video to show it.
Can it be due to the GPU?
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Watch the name calling and argumentative behavior. Consider this your warning. There is no need for that on these forums.....

jayharper08 said:
Watch the name calling and argumentative behavior. Consider this your warning. There is no need for that on these forums.....
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Its him trolling, I am just voicing my concerns for the phone in hope that someone can advise of a fix or solution rather than just pretending everything is honky dory like the majority on here
I appreciate what you're saying tho so I apologise to you
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jameslfc5 said:
Its him trolling, I am just voicing my concerns for the phone in hope that someone can advise of a fix or solution rather than just pretending everything is honky dory like the majority on here
I appreciate what you're saying tho so I apologise to you
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I get what you are saying, and I see what is going on, believe me. I am watching closely.

jayharper08 said:
I get what you are saying, and I see what is going on, believe me. I am watching closely.
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Well as long as you know I'm not trolling, I love this site, this nexus and the S2
But I am just trying to patch some of the things on the nexus I don't like by getting other people's opinions on how to fix it, eg how to improve the video playback quality
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How about an actual video file you copy to the device?
Does it look bad then?
I think netflix looks like **** on this phone.. though I attribute that to the fact that it isn't in HD..

Download a nice .mkv 720p HD trailer from the web, and view. It looks stunning.

bushbrother said:
Download a nice .mkv 720p HD trailer from the web, and view. It looks stunning.
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Anything you'd recommend mate?
And do you think the videos I have mentioned look bad due to them not being optimized?
What I can't understand is why the i4 videos are so stunning clear yet these aren't when there isn't much PPI difference

that's the problem of the super HD devices
regular videos optimized for the web are too low quality for the phone
you will need at least videos optimized for 480 if not 720 for it to look good
so in youtube you need to select 480 if 720 is not available
that means you will also eat a lot more DATA if you are on 3G / 4G
this is one of the many reason why GN wasn't so appetizing to me
specially when 3G & 4G networks are not as fast as they advertise them to be

AllGamer said:
that's the problem of the super HD devices
regular videos optimized for the web are too low quality for the phone
you will need at least videos optimized for 480 if not 720 for it to look good
so in youtube you need to select 480 if 720 is not available
that means you will also eat a lot more DATA if you are on 3G / 4G
this is one of the many reason why GN wasn't so appetizing to me
specially when 3G & 4G networks are not as fast as they advertise them to be
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Data isn't a problem for me with 3's "All you can eat data" but the video optimization is, I am a bit gutted about the quality
Thanks for explaining tho mate

download jetvd, a google search will do. then view it in 720p or you can download it to your phone in 720p

As for YouTube are you watching from the browser or the app itself?
I compared an HD video in the youtube app between the Galaxy Nexus and the SGS2 and the Nexus wins hands down... the detail is far superior because of the newer youtube app on the nexus. When the SGS2 gets ICS and/or the same youtube app as the nexus then maybe it'll be closer.
For large MKV files the SGS2 will win because samsung supplies codecs to view almost any video you throw at it, where as the nexus is constrained by the codecs that AOSP supports, which isn't nearly as expansive.

I have no clue what the **** the OP is talking about.
Check out the 2012 trailer in HD (should be the first in YouTube when searching for "HD 2012 trailer"). And make sure it actually has the "HD" icon in the vid list when you get your search results.
There is a little frame stutter... but hell, my $2000 i5 + ATI 6990 triple monitor gaming system also has frame stutter with YouTube (nature of FLV). The clarity on the other hand actually surprised me. It's just as good if not completely equal to 1080p MP4 videos (like Kanye's 'Lights') which also play awesome.

CanaganD said:
I have no clue what the **** the OP is talking about.
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took the words out of my mouth. i see an eye doctor in op's future. or use hdmi over mhl to see what the nexus is capable of on an even bigger screen!

jameslfc5 said:
It is really sketchy and not good quality at all, my GS2 has better video playback quality
YouTube looks crap, ESPN goals does too (you can hardly see the football) and so does any videos loaded through the browser
What are your thoughts?
Cheers
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Download this video file to your phone and play it. If this doesn't blow you away then I don't know what could.
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video credits goto TSO Photography and I am just using it for demo purposes. No intention to violate any copyrights to the owner. Mods, please remove the link if you see this is in violation to rules. I apologize in advance.

What do you guys use to play MKVs?
The SGS2 has its own codecs, when I used other ROMs I would use Moboplayer.
But Moboplayer won't download any codecs on the Galaxy Nexus so it's basically useless. Next I tried Rock Player, with hardware decoding I get good video but no sound and in software decoding I get good audio but suttering video.
So what to do? Re-encoding is a pain...

YouTube 1080p Lag

Okay, so I have been watching videos from the full YouTube site and they work perfectly on 720p. When I play the videos on 1080p, the videos lags, giving me something like 1 FPS. Is there a solution to this problem? Is it something with the phone or is it YouTube's problem? If anyone has any sort of insight on this problem, please post. If you are having the same problem, also post.

aranurea said:
Okay, so I have been watching videos from the full YouTube site and they work perfectly on 720p. When I play the videos on 1080p, the videos lags, giving me something like 1 FPS. Is there a solution to this problem? Is it something with the phone or is it YouTube's problem? If anyone has any sort of insight on this problem, please post. If you are having the same problem, also post.
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Your internet speeds aren't high enough probably?
There is enough hate in the world. Why can't we all get along here ...?

I just checked it myself. I have the same problem. Maybe the device doesn't support 1080p playback. Which is odd, I thought it recorded in 1080p.

1920x1080 runs just fine on mine
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YouTube 1080p runs in flash..what's you expect..also..why in the world would you watch a 1080p video on a 480p screen?

Try a different browser
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Before we had root in the first days of the sgs2, i was able to watch 1080 videos wonderufully on YT also, epicmealtime fyi. I tried it today and the stock browser lags. =/

Why? Why do you need to see 1080P videos on a screen that only does 480P? And of course it'll lag it's running on flash on a website not optimized for mobile. Geez this is a phone not a desktop gaming rig.

It's not your phone it's youtube it's self. Youtube has always lagged on 1080p videos. My desktop has problems with it and I have 8 gig ram. Intel i7 sandy bridge with AMD Radeon HD 6990. Ever since youtube upgraded their interface it has been plagued with problems. My connection is 20 down 5 up.
The phone can run hi 10bit 1080p blue ray h.264 mkv videos with the lowest and highest encode possible with out losing frames. Which looks better than anything you can possibly stream. There is nothing on youtube worth watching in 1080p most videos are upscaled anyway. Which really isn't 1080p anyway.
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I watch 1080p videos because they look much clearer and less grainy than both 720p and 420p. I have tried different browsers but the same problem arises.
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I think you need a quad core processer in order to watch 1080p videos.., my tab 10.1 can`t play 1080p videos...... it has the screen for it which leads me to believe it`s the processer
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aranurea said:
I watch 1080p videos because they look much clearer and less grainy than both 720p and 420p. I have tried different browsers but the same problem arises.
Sent from my SGH-T989 running Paradox ROM.
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that's your brain talking.

I bet if I had 3 identical gsIIs one displaying 480 video, 720, and 1080 you wouldn't be able to pick which one is which.

jessejames111981 said:
I bet if I had 3 identical gsIIs one displaying 480 video, 720, and 1080 you wouldn't be able to pick which one is which.
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Haha agreed.
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ArcticWolf91 said:
Why? Why do you need to see 1080P videos on a screen that only does 480P? And of course it'll lag it's running on flash on a website not optimized for mobile. Geez this is a phone not a desktop gaming rig.
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I think many of us are spec whores because we want a mobile desktop experience/replacement/all-in-one mega device and I don't think you picked up your GS2 without thinking the same.

I bet i could jesse james. How bout you run a vid on all three options and take a screenie and post. Im not looking to start something, i just want to prove a point
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Never mind. My logic was wrong but I watch CoD vids mostly so I can only tell the difference in such videos. But i hope you get my point. I want to maximize my phone's use.
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what resolution via hdmi to tv/comp.screen?

hello!
what resolution can I expect to get when connecting to an external display? Tegra 3 itself shouldn't have any problems with 1080p via MHL should it? But the question is if it will work. Maybe not with stock rom and sense but will it even be possible for a dev to make a rom further on where you can get anything else than mirroring at 720p?
this is the first phone that I think is powerful enough to replace my desktop computer (I don't do much more than internet and watching movies). But 720 doesn't give much work area.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/12/htc-media-link-hd-display-mirroring-box/
This article states "...the Media Link HD does 1080p over 802.11n to any HDMI-equipped TV, instead of just 720p, and promises to mirror games as well as videos, photos and music..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geCZhmB-f1s&feature=related
This youtube video shows it off from about 50s into the video.

Yea I saw that on engadget, and i've probably seen every hands on video on youtube, it's awesome! But I think the media link will be expensive and I'd rather use an MHL adapter for a desktop solution. I wonder how the media link will work for say browsing.
Nvidias own tegra 3 specs says 1920x1080 via hdmi, but on wikipedia it says up to 2560×1600, though not output specified.

ah ok sorry I miss understood
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_phone.aspx?i=229814
Seems to be £80 for the Media Link and £28 for the cable so a fair difference but worth it imo not to have the wire across the room but then the cable is more portable...
I guess for browsing it will just mirror what's on the screen. Would be cool if you could use the phone as a track pad / keyboard, with the browser window on the TV...
2 more weeks and we should know more...

i've looked in the TF prime forum where someone asked the same question but with a prime instead of one x but noone could give a straight answer.
maybe that's something to contact nvidia for, making them provide a driver for devs that can bypass the device screen and only output to external with different resolution. I don't know how ICS really works but seeing it's for both phones and tablets now the scaling must work differently right? Acer made a demo tablet called iconia tab A700 and it has 1080.

I'll have to wait 6 weeks for mine.
I might get the media link for my tv later. The trackpad idea would be really cool, then you'd only need a bt keyboard. I think asus had a concept demo where you had a laptop dock and put the phone where a trackpad normally is. But I wonder if you'd notice the input lag compared to a normal track pad.

mertzi said:
Yea I saw that on engadget, and i've probably seen every hands on video on youtube, it's awesome! But I think the media link will be expensive and I'd rather use an MHL adapter for a desktop solution. I wonder how the media link will work for say browsing.
Nvidias own tegra 3 specs says 1920x1080 via hdmi, but on wikipedia it says up to 2560×1600, though not output specified.
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Thats correct t3 is capable of outputting more than 1080p via hdmi, there was a video demonstration showing that
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What features would be available over normal DLNA? Mirroring or anything like that? Or do we have to have the media link thing?

[Q] Can this play high 720p/10 bit/1080p files smoothly?

One of the main reasons I plan on purchasing this is because of the the so called video playback. I plan on mainly watching movies and anime on this tablet and I was wondering how is the playback for 10 bit/10p mkv files?
I'm also curious to see whether it's safe to watch high resolution mkv files without overheating the tablet since I'll be watching it a lot during the night.
Thanks in advanced.

Yes to everything. All new tablets are capable of playing this format with no issue. You just need an app like BS Player. I play and stream 8gb mkv files all the time
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timrock said:
Yes to everything. All new tablets are capable of playing this format with no issue. You just need an app like BS Player. I play and stream 8gb mkv files all the time
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I also heard that MXPlayer is the best right now? Also does your tablet overheat after watching/streaming all day?

I use Mxplayer all the time. No problems at all. Full screen and yes mxplayer is awesome.
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commuterbox said:
I use Mxplayer all the time. No problems at all. Full screen and yes mxplayer is awesome.
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I've heard that that Nexus 7 is prone to heatup when watching HD quality videos? So is it prone to heat if I watch for hours on end? I'll be playing mainly 720p 8 bit stuff.

SCBebop said:
I also heard that MXPlayer is the best right now? Also does your tablet overheat after watching/streaming all day?
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I recommend MX Player, I watch 1080p movies all the time with it, however when it comes to big(over 5gb) 1080p mkv files I recommend BS Player.

NekroWolfen said:
I recommend MX Player, I watch 1080p movies all the time with it, however when it comes to big(over 5gb) 1080p mkv files I recommend BS Player.
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Good to know. So when you watch for 5+ hours the tablet doesn't overheat?

+1 to mx player. I haven't found a video file it cannot play. Install the DTS plugin here off of XDA to play files with that sound format. I use it in conjunction with ES file explorer to stream video's over my network and even through wireless 1080p mkv's play flawlessly.

dice player is worth a try.
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I haven't noticed any issue with getting warm playing videos but it sure gets warm when recording 1080p or doing multiple 360° photos.
I'm running a kernel with better thermal throttling. And its not gotten warm like it used to just takes a bit longer if it needs to just to keep cool.
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SCBebop said:
Good to know. So when you watch for 5+ hours the tablet doesn't overheat?
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No, the only time I've noticed a little warm is when playing high graphics games and when it's charging while using it, the common stuff that usually get it warm. no problems with over heat here on mine.

i have never watched movies for 5+ hours straight on my tablet. i watch a two hour movie or one hour show, and never had heat problems.

Thanks for all your responses everyone. I'm probably going to buy this today.

Is there HD playback?

Hey guys,
Just wanted to let everyone know that after purchasing the GN 10.1 2014, I have been absolutely loving the device. Yes there is a little lag here and there but this is a fantastic device. The one thing that I was very excited about was to watch HD movies on this gorgeous screen. Well come to find out when I entered into the Google play store to purchase a movie, the option for HD version had a note attached saying this device does not support HD playback. I wanted everyone to know this as I was unaware this high resolution screen was incapable of HD playback before I spent the $600.00.

Dedline said:
Hey guys,
Just wanted to let everyone know that after purchasing the GN 10.1 2014, I have been absolutely loving the device. Yes there is a little lag here and there but this is a fantastic device. The one thing that I was very excited about was to watch HD movies on this gorgeous screen. Well come to find out when I entered into the Google play store to purchase a movie, the option for HD version had a note attached saying this device does not support HD playback. I wanted everyone to know this as I was unaware this high resolution screen was incapable of HD playback before I spent the $600.00.
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The title of your post is deceiving, The tablet definitely Supports HD Playback, you can load your own videos in there and it will look amazing. Maybe play store just hasn't approved of HD for this tablet yet, You can try to get videos from Samsung Hub with the free $50 gift card
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ChrisNee1988 said:
The title of your post is deceiving, The tablet finitely Supports HD Playback, you can load your own videos in there and it will look amazing. Maybe play store just hasn't approved of HD for this tablet yet, You can try to get videos from Samsung Hub with the free $50 gift card
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Thanks for the input and I have corrected the title. Where is the spec sheet or Some other info showing HD play back support?

Dedline said:
Thanks for the input and I have corrected the title. Where is the spec sheet or Some other info showing HD play back support?
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The screen resolution is 2560x1600 which is much higher than HD (1920x1080). I don't think it'll say HD play back support explicitly on the spec sheet, but the CPU is more than capable of playing 1080p videos. I've been able to do it since I had my Galaxy S3. Also if you watch a video on youtube, it'll play HD videos. You can verify that it is HD by clicking on the action overflow button (3 dots) on a YouTube video and it'll say HD rather than just HQ.

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The screen resolution is 2560x1600 which is much higher than HD (1920x1080). I don't think it'll say HD play back support explicitly on the spec sheet, but the CPU is more than capable of playing 1080p videos. I've been able to do it since I had my Galaxy S3. Also if you watch a video on youtube, it'll play HD videos. You can verify that it is HD by clicking on the action overflow button (3 dots) on a YouTube video and it'll say HD rather than just HQ.
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It does say HD play back and record http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab/SM-P6000ZWYXAR-specs.
You can also go to Media hub and watch free HD Tv content.

just install a player like MX Player or BS Player and load your own movies on it. The device is easily capable of 1080p content.

So given all of that, does anybody know what specifically the issue is with the Play Store? Is it a restrictive policy issue due to licensing agreements or something similar, or have they just not entered the model number into some database that tells the system that this is a HD capable device?