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It is really sketchy and not good quality at all, my GS2 has better video playback quality
YouTube looks crap, ESPN goals does too (you can hardly see the football) and so does any videos loaded through the browser
What are your thoughts?
Cheers
jameslfc5 said:
It is really sketchy and not good quality at all, my GS2 has better video playback quality
YouTube looks crap, ESPN goals does too (you can hardly see the football) and so does any videos loaded through the browser
What are your thoughts?
Cheers
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Are you on WiFi or 3G? Are you using HQ option? Have you tried watching HD film trailers? Like one of these: (that was the first trailer I saw, introduced by one of the XDA members)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh29_SERH0Y&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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jameslfc5 said:
It is really sketchy and not good quality at all, my GS2 has better video playback quality
YouTube looks crap, ESPN goals does too (you can hardly see the football) and so does any videos loaded through the browser
What are your thoughts?
Cheers
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xtrawise said:
Is that the same GS2 you tried to scratch the screen off before you got rid of it? (But still have it.)
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The one I got rid of had dead pixels so it was being exchanged by the network and that is the one I did the scratch test on because I didn't care what the network thought due to the way they pissed me around. The replacement which I am contracted to, I still have.
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Are you on WiFi or 3G? Are you using HQ option? Have you tried watching HD film trailers? Like one of these: (that was the first trailer I saw, introduced by one of the XDA members)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh29_SERH0Y&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Yeah I've tried it mate, thanks... if I can I will try and get a video to show it.
Can it be due to the GPU?
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Watch the name calling and argumentative behavior. Consider this your warning. There is no need for that on these forums.....
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Watch the name calling and argumentative behavior. Consider this your warning. There is no need for that on these forums.....
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Its him trolling, I am just voicing my concerns for the phone in hope that someone can advise of a fix or solution rather than just pretending everything is honky dory like the majority on here
I appreciate what you're saying tho so I apologise to you
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Its him trolling, I am just voicing my concerns for the phone in hope that someone can advise of a fix or solution rather than just pretending everything is honky dory like the majority on here
I appreciate what you're saying tho so I apologise to you
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I get what you are saying, and I see what is going on, believe me. I am watching closely.
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I get what you are saying, and I see what is going on, believe me. I am watching closely.
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Well as long as you know I'm not trolling, I love this site, this nexus and the S2
But I am just trying to patch some of the things on the nexus I don't like by getting other people's opinions on how to fix it, eg how to improve the video playback quality
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How about an actual video file you copy to the device?
Does it look bad then?
I think netflix looks like **** on this phone.. though I attribute that to the fact that it isn't in HD..
Download a nice .mkv 720p HD trailer from the web, and view. It looks stunning.
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Download a nice .mkv 720p HD trailer from the web, and view. It looks stunning.
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Anything you'd recommend mate?
And do you think the videos I have mentioned look bad due to them not being optimized?
What I can't understand is why the i4 videos are so stunning clear yet these aren't when there isn't much PPI difference
that's the problem of the super HD devices
regular videos optimized for the web are too low quality for the phone
you will need at least videos optimized for 480 if not 720 for it to look good
so in youtube you need to select 480 if 720 is not available
that means you will also eat a lot more DATA if you are on 3G / 4G
this is one of the many reason why GN wasn't so appetizing to me
specially when 3G & 4G networks are not as fast as they advertise them to be
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that's the problem of the super HD devices
regular videos optimized for the web are too low quality for the phone
you will need at least videos optimized for 480 if not 720 for it to look good
so in youtube you need to select 480 if 720 is not available
that means you will also eat a lot more DATA if you are on 3G / 4G
this is one of the many reason why GN wasn't so appetizing to me
specially when 3G & 4G networks are not as fast as they advertise them to be
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Data isn't a problem for me with 3's "All you can eat data" but the video optimization is, I am a bit gutted about the quality
Thanks for explaining tho mate
download jetvd, a google search will do. then view it in 720p or you can download it to your phone in 720p
As for YouTube are you watching from the browser or the app itself?
I compared an HD video in the youtube app between the Galaxy Nexus and the SGS2 and the Nexus wins hands down... the detail is far superior because of the newer youtube app on the nexus. When the SGS2 gets ICS and/or the same youtube app as the nexus then maybe it'll be closer.
For large MKV files the SGS2 will win because samsung supplies codecs to view almost any video you throw at it, where as the nexus is constrained by the codecs that AOSP supports, which isn't nearly as expansive.
I have no clue what the **** the OP is talking about.
Check out the 2012 trailer in HD (should be the first in YouTube when searching for "HD 2012 trailer"). And make sure it actually has the "HD" icon in the vid list when you get your search results.
There is a little frame stutter... but hell, my $2000 i5 + ATI 6990 triple monitor gaming system also has frame stutter with YouTube (nature of FLV). The clarity on the other hand actually surprised me. It's just as good if not completely equal to 1080p MP4 videos (like Kanye's 'Lights') which also play awesome.
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I have no clue what the **** the OP is talking about.
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took the words out of my mouth. i see an eye doctor in op's future. or use hdmi over mhl to see what the nexus is capable of on an even bigger screen!
jameslfc5 said:
It is really sketchy and not good quality at all, my GS2 has better video playback quality
YouTube looks crap, ESPN goals does too (you can hardly see the football) and so does any videos loaded through the browser
What are your thoughts?
Cheers
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Download this video file to your phone and play it. If this doesn't blow you away then I don't know what could.
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video credits goto TSO Photography and I am just using it for demo purposes. No intention to violate any copyrights to the owner. Mods, please remove the link if you see this is in violation to rules. I apologize in advance.
What do you guys use to play MKVs?
The SGS2 has its own codecs, when I used other ROMs I would use Moboplayer.
But Moboplayer won't download any codecs on the Galaxy Nexus so it's basically useless. Next I tried Rock Player, with hardware decoding I get good video but no sound and in software decoding I get good audio but suttering video.
So what to do? Re-encoding is a pain...
Okay, so I have been watching videos from the full YouTube site and they work perfectly on 720p. When I play the videos on 1080p, the videos lags, giving me something like 1 FPS. Is there a solution to this problem? Is it something with the phone or is it YouTube's problem? If anyone has any sort of insight on this problem, please post. If you are having the same problem, also post.
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Okay, so I have been watching videos from the full YouTube site and they work perfectly on 720p. When I play the videos on 1080p, the videos lags, giving me something like 1 FPS. Is there a solution to this problem? Is it something with the phone or is it YouTube's problem? If anyone has any sort of insight on this problem, please post. If you are having the same problem, also post.
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Your internet speeds aren't high enough probably?
There is enough hate in the world. Why can't we all get along here ...?
I just checked it myself. I have the same problem. Maybe the device doesn't support 1080p playback. Which is odd, I thought it recorded in 1080p.
1920x1080 runs just fine on mine
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YouTube 1080p runs in flash..what's you expect..also..why in the world would you watch a 1080p video on a 480p screen?
Try a different browser
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Before we had root in the first days of the sgs2, i was able to watch 1080 videos wonderufully on YT also, epicmealtime fyi. I tried it today and the stock browser lags. =/
Why? Why do you need to see 1080P videos on a screen that only does 480P? And of course it'll lag it's running on flash on a website not optimized for mobile. Geez this is a phone not a desktop gaming rig.
It's not your phone it's youtube it's self. Youtube has always lagged on 1080p videos. My desktop has problems with it and I have 8 gig ram. Intel i7 sandy bridge with AMD Radeon HD 6990. Ever since youtube upgraded their interface it has been plagued with problems. My connection is 20 down 5 up.
The phone can run hi 10bit 1080p blue ray h.264 mkv videos with the lowest and highest encode possible with out losing frames. Which looks better than anything you can possibly stream. There is nothing on youtube worth watching in 1080p most videos are upscaled anyway. Which really isn't 1080p anyway.
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I watch 1080p videos because they look much clearer and less grainy than both 720p and 420p. I have tried different browsers but the same problem arises.
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I think you need a quad core processer in order to watch 1080p videos.., my tab 10.1 can`t play 1080p videos...... it has the screen for it which leads me to believe it`s the processer
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I watch 1080p videos because they look much clearer and less grainy than both 720p and 420p. I have tried different browsers but the same problem arises.
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that's your brain talking.
I bet if I had 3 identical gsIIs one displaying 480 video, 720, and 1080 you wouldn't be able to pick which one is which.
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I bet if I had 3 identical gsIIs one displaying 480 video, 720, and 1080 you wouldn't be able to pick which one is which.
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Haha agreed.
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Why? Why do you need to see 1080P videos on a screen that only does 480P? And of course it'll lag it's running on flash on a website not optimized for mobile. Geez this is a phone not a desktop gaming rig.
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I think many of us are spec whores because we want a mobile desktop experience/replacement/all-in-one mega device and I don't think you picked up your GS2 without thinking the same.
I bet i could jesse james. How bout you run a vid on all three options and take a screenie and post. Im not looking to start something, i just want to prove a point
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Never mind. My logic was wrong but I watch CoD vids mostly so I can only tell the difference in such videos. But i hope you get my point. I want to maximize my phone's use.
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I'm looking for a legal to download 1080P/720P HD video that I can download to my SD card to use to show off the brilliance of the GNII's display. There were some old links to come Samsung made HD videos that were designed to show off the AMOLED displays but it looks like all the links for them were to MEGAupload which of course doesn't quite exist any more. I'd love to find something simiar. I don't really keep HD movies on my phone but I do want a short HD clips I can play that will hopefully really show off the chops of the HD Amoled display. Anyone know of something that will play on our Notes that is legal to download on the internets that would make a great display demo?
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I'm looking for a legal to download 1080P/720P HD video that I can download to my SD card to use to show off the brilliance of the GNII's display. There were some old links to come Samsung made HD videos that were designed to show off the AMOLED displays but it looks like all the links for them were to MEGAupload which of course doesn't quite exist any more. I'd love to find something simiar. I don't really keep HD movies on my phone but I do want a short HD clips I can play that will hopefully really show off the chops of the HD Amoled display. Anyone know of something that will play on our Notes that is legal to download on the internets that would make a great display demo?
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I find youtube videos on HD do that just as well .
Check out "ThePianoGuys" if you don't know about them (they're pretty good, and their cinematography & video quality is awesome )
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I find youtube videos on HD do that just as well .
Check out "ThePianoGuys" if you don't know about them (they're pretty good, and their cinematography & video quality is awesome )
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I was hoping for something downloadable since 3G/4G coverage can be a little spotty around here. Plus Youtube HD videos aren't exactly the highest quality HD you can get.
You can search for hd movie trailers downloads. Maybe something like the Avengers cause they have colorful costumes. Those are hd quality and legal.
http://www.hd-trailers.net
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I was hoping for something downloadable since 3G/4G coverage can be a little spotty around here. Plus Youtube HD videos aren't exactly the highest quality HD you can get.
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Why aren't 1080p videos on youtube the highest quality you can get? Actually, I think it's the highest quality your phone can display. I don't know you, and this is crazy, but I just searched for Samsung Galaxy Note 2 1080p on youtube, and found a ton of 1080p videos for you to check out. And if you want, use tubemate to set the quality you need and download directly to your phone.
Orrrr.... you can record a nice video yourself using the amazing camera on 1080p and show it on that beautiful display.
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I have the game trailer for Cyrsis 2, excellent video with lots of explosions. Love the game waiting for Crysis 3.
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I was hoping for something downloadable since 3G/4G coverage can be a little spotty around here. Plus Youtube HD videos aren't exactly the highest quality HD you can get.
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If your your rooted here's a link to download 720p hd youtube.apk that doesn't turn off when you lock the phone http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1529715
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Google "Blender Open Movies" there are a few hi-res movies you can download for free that are gorgeous to boot. My favorite is Tears of Steel (youtube). The main site appears to be down Tears of Steel. Also check out Elephant's Dream.
Well, you could get the youtube downloader from the samsung store. I did, and it works just fine.
Hi all,
I got my Amazon Fire TV a few days ago, and have sideloaded XBMC for media playback. Although I was ideally looking to do that via USB, until there's a root method for the latest UK firmware, streaming will have to do, I guess.
However, the issue I am having is with playback quality. I do not know if this is down to XBMC/Kodi or AFTV, but videos are not as smooth and lovely as they are when played directly via my TV's USB port. Even my TV is not as good as my previous device, which was a Sony DVR. It had the MOST wonderful video playback, with beautiful colours, perfect balance and no noise. It failed, so I started using my TV's USB port. Video quality is not as good - it's slightly grainer, a bit overexposed.
I got Amazon Fire TV because I was expecting something better than what my almost 4 year old Samsung TV can do. All those extra bells and whistles are fine, but playback quality is THE most crucial thing for me. I am not an expert, and I do not know if Sony and Samsung have some state-of-the art upscaling, but I'm baffled that a quad-core device with a dedicated GPU is worse than both of them. Playback via XBMC is just a huge let-down.
Am I doing something wrong? Is it supposed to be like this? Am I expecting too much? Are there any settings I can try?
I'd love to hear what you all think!
Lisali said:
Hi all,
I got my Amazon Fire TV a few days ago, and have sideloaded XBMC for media playback. Although I was ideally looking to do that via USB, until there's a root method for the latest UK firmware, streaming will have to do, I guess.
However, the issue I am having is with playback quality. I do not know if this is down to XBMC/Kodi or AFTV, but videos are not as smooth and lovely as they are when played directly via my TV's USB port. Even my TV is not as good as my previous device, which was a Sony DVR. It had the MOST wonderful video playback, with beautiful colours, perfect balance and no noise. It failed, so I started using my TV's USB port. Video quality is not as good - it's slightly grainer, a bit overexposed.
I got Amazon Fire TV because I was expecting something better than what my almost 4 year old Samsung TV can do. All those extra bells and whistles are fine, but playback quality is THE most crucial thing for me. I am not an expert, and I do not know if Sony and Samsung have some state-of-the art upscaling, but I'm baffled that a quad-core device with a dedicated GPU is worse than both of them. Playback via XBMC is just a huge let-down.
Am I doing something wrong? Is it supposed to be like this? Am I expecting too much? Are there any settings I can try?
I'd love to hear what you all think!
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Having no idea what you are trying to play, what it's resolution is, what it's codec is, etc, makes it hard for anyone to say. My AFTV (rooted) with Kodi plays videos great. Everything is looking like it should, whether it's old doctor who episodes in divx, latest 720p TV releases, or 1080p movies. Previously I was watching stuff via a computer connected by a dvi- 15p vga connection. Both connections at 1080p on the TV.
And yes it is possible that your TV has a hardware upscaler that does a better job then software. If you usb tv thingy is connecting at a lower resolution then your AFTV then upscaler could play a factor. There is a post about how to change the resolution of what your AFTV connects at.
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Having no idea what you are trying to play, what it's resolution is, what it's codec is, etc, makes it hard for anyone to say. My AFTV (rooted) with Kodi plays videos great. Everything is looking like it should, whether it's old doctor who episodes in divx, latest 720p TV releases, or 1080p movies. Previously I was watching stuff via a computer connected by a dvi- 15p vga connection. Both connections at 1080p on the TV.
And yes it is possible that your TV has a hardware upscaler that does a better job then software. If you usb tv thingy is connecting at a lower resolution then your AFTV then upscaler could play a factor. There is a post about how to change the resolution of what your AFTV connects at.
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Hi nyder,
Thanks so much for your response!
I play a variety of files, but mostly mp4 in SD and MKV in 720p. 720p an above looks OK - not as good as the TV's USB or Sony, but the biggest difference is with SD mp4 files. They look noticeably worse - oversaturated, overexposed, blocky, with artefacts.
Thanks for the tip about changing the AFTV resolution. I tried that, but it did not help. Hmm...What can I do now? Shall I try something else or look for another device?
Thank you!
Lisali said:
Hi nyder,
Thanks so much for your response!
I play a variety of files, but mostly mp4 in SD and MKV in 720p. 720p an above looks OK - not as good as the TV's USB or Sony, but the biggest difference is with SD mp4 files. They look noticeably worse - oversaturated, overexposed, blocky, with artefacts.
Thanks for the tip about changing the AFTV resolution. I tried that, but it did not help. Hmm...What can I do now? Shall I try something else or look for another device?
Thank you!
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I am new to UK fire tv but I have to say I have tried a few 1080p dd5.1 H264 and so far all looks very nice streaming localy
using xbmc-13.2-Gotham-armeabi-v7a kicked off from newest plex app
madusmacus said:
I am new to UK fire tv but I have to say I have tried a few 1080p dd5.1 H264 and so far all looks very nice streaming localy
using xbmc-13.2-Gotham-armeabi-v7a kicked off from newest plex app
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How are you enjoying your device?
Yes - that seems to be the case. 1080p will look fine, but SD files look awful.
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How are you enjoying your device?
Yes - that seems to be the case. 1080p will look fine, but SD files look awful.
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Took me a few days to get past all the "you cant root this version" nonsense its OK now :¬)
I have firedtv and I used llama to make the old Plex app launch the new Plex app (sideloaded) and
I use air buddy to launch xbms as it detects its sideloaded and gives you a laod button :¬)
Its definatly a mark up from my old jailbroken ATV 2 - (RIP) - :¬)
Only bad thing its for me DD5.1 definatly does NOT WORK over HDMI (Netflix and amazon prime)
Fixed by buying optical cables - it its a real pain duplicating cables - grrr
XBMC of course works over either HDMI or OPTICAL
I am guessing this problem is UK version or a new firmware NERF they have done to ruin peoples life for a laugh and then buy optical cables from amazon :¬):¬):¬).
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Took me a few days to get past all the "you cant root this version" nonsense its OK now :¬)
I have firedtv and I used llama to make the old Plex app launch the new Plex app (sideloaded) and
I use air buddy to launch xbms as it detects its sideloaded and gives you a laod button :¬)
Its definatly a mark up from my old jailbroken ATV 2 - (RIP) - :¬)
Only bad thing its for me DD5.1 definatly does NOT WORK over HDMI (Netflix and amazon prime)
Fixed by buying optical cables - it its a real pain duplicating cables - grrr
XBMC of course works over either HDMI or OPTICAL
I am guessing this problem is UK version or a new firmware NERF they have done to ruin peoples life for a laugh and then buy optical cables from amazon :¬):¬):¬).
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Good to hear you're enjoying it. I really wanted to use it for USB playback. As the computer is in the same room, I do not want it being on all the time, so I'm a bit annoyed that it can't be rooted to allow for USB playback. I tried XBMC, but SD playback quality is just abysmal, so I'm not sure what to do at this point.
I did not know that 5.1 does not work over HDMI - that's odd, I'll have to try that. Thanks for the heads up!
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Good to hear you're enjoying it. I really wanted to use it for USB playback. As the computer is in the same room, I do not want it being on all the time, so I'm a bit annoyed that it can't be rooted to allow for USB playback. I tried XBMC, but SD playback quality is just abysmal, so I'm not sure what to do at this point.
I did not know that 5.1 does not work over HDMI - that's odd, I'll have to try that. Thanks for the heads up!
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You might want to try "MX Player"(free) for SD or PLEX (but that involves and external server)
I might just be it does not like my HDMI tv or AUDIO
I obviously can be done because XMBC works flawlessly
I am using Amazon HDMI cables too :¬)
:¬( lowest I have gone so far is 720
I was having issues with some of the services I was trying to use on my FTV. Playback would be jerky here and there. I went ahead and disabled mediacodec and everything plays nice and smooth now.
Maybe try that incase it changes the quality as well?
Hello Lisali
the same issue goes for me too.
I am rather disappointed with the picture quality of AFTV. In most of the time, I play 1080p net-downloaded movies and TV shows such as Band of brothers, Dark knight, and etc. The pictures are too blocky and grainy.
I thought it was some kind of limitation of the mobile chip(?) cause I tried MX player for playback which resulted in the same picture quality, but it seems not everybody are having the same issue.
I wonder what the problem is.
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Hello Lisali
the same issue goes for me too.
I am rather disappointed with the picture quality of AFTV. In most of the time, I play 1080p net-downloaded movies and TV shows such as Band of brothers, Dark knight, and etc. The pictures are too blocky and grainy.
I thought it was some kind of limitation of the mobile chip(?) cause I tried MX player for playback which resulted in the same picture quality, but it seems not everybody are having the same issue.
I wonder what the problem is.
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Hi - I see, the MX player did not help?
After some thinking, I think this is intentional on Amazon's part. Here's why: The main point of Amazon Fire TV is to promote Amazon services - Prime, App Store, music. When you look at Amazon Prime, you get a lot of content for free, but mostly in SD. Want HD? Pay more. If Amazon started upscaling their SD content, there would be no reason for people to pay to watch HD stuff.
This is quite devious, I must say. SD content = crappy. HD content = better. Pay even more for HD, Amazon makes more money. Devious - yes. Honest and honourable - no.
I and some others use SPMC and it works a lot better than xbmc
Regards
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I and some others use SPMC and it works a lot better than xbmc
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Hi - thanks for the response. That sounds good, but how is it at upscaling SD content? If this is a hardware limitation in Amazon Fire TV box, it may not be much better than Kodi. I will give it a go, thanks!
Looking at system info in SPMC it does use all 4 processors.
Other people have used the Ouya version with success.
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Any of you guys in the UK. Head over to Amazon Fire TV UK group on fb.
if it is so, how come there are guys who are satisfied with the playback quality?
from the reply, i see other guys satisfied with their amazon TV's razor sharp picture quality.
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if it is so, how come there are guys who are satisfied with the playback quality?
from the reply, i see other guys satisfied with their amazon TV's razor sharp picture quality.
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They may be playing 1080p content, or are happy with the quality they get. I am not. Amazon Fire TV is NOT razor sharp.
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They may be playing 1080p content, or are happy with the quality they get. I am not. Amazon Fire TV is NOT razor sharp.
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I have gone through a few android boxes including the Minix Neo X8-H. I thought that was a great box. But tha AFTV is better. Handles even the most demanding skins and excellent picture quality. As I said in a previous post I'm using SPMC.
Lisali said:
Hi - I see, the MX player did not help?
After some thinking, I think this is intentional on Amazon's part. Here's why: The main point of Amazon Fire TV is to promote Amazon services - Prime, App Store, music. When you look at Amazon Prime, you get a lot of content for free, but mostly in SD. Want HD? Pay more. If Amazon started upscaling their SD content, there would be no reason for people to pay to watch HD stuff.
This is quite devious, I must say. SD content = crappy. HD content = better. Pay even more for HD, Amazon makes more money. Devious - yes. Honest and honourable - no.
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Are you in the UK as well? I ask as you mention Amazon Prime content being in SD, I only watch HD with my prime membership and i dont pay any extra. Granted i don't even think about looking at anything that would be in SD but everything i am interested in is always available in HD.
My experience is that SD looks like crap on any HD TV no matter how you slice it. Upscaling helps but you can still see the difference very easily
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Are you in the UK as well? I ask as you mention Amazon Prime content being in SD, I only watch HD with my prime membership and i dont pay any extra. Granted i don't even think about looking at anything that would be in SD but everything i am interested in is always available in HD.
My experience is that SD looks like crap on any HD TV no matter how you slice it. Upscaling helps but you can still see the difference very easily
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Hi - yes, I'm in the UK. Some Prime content is in HD, but not all of it is. A lot of movies, especially older ones, are SD only. Some of them are included in prime as SD, but you have to pay extra for HD. I also watch a lot of my own content, which is not always in HD, and the box seems to degrade, instead of upscale those. It's just odd that my 5 year old TV's built-in USB playback function is so much better at this than Amazon Fire TV, which is a beast of a machine. When it comes to how much better it is, I'd say 20-30% for HD and 50-60% for SD content.
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They may be playing 1080p content, or are happy with the quality they get. I am not. Amazon Fire TV is NOT razor sharp.
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Completely false. I play US TV shows (typically downscaled HD broadcasts to SD or even 640 x 360) and full HD movies ([email protected]) and I see no real image quality difference compared to my Windows 8.1 HTPC also running XBMC. I usually disable any post-processing in XBMC, in the Windows video driver (if applicable) and on the TV itself.
The claim that Amazon is on purpose degrading the video is also BS IMHO.
Can anyone with a Samsung Tab S4 tablet confirm if Netflix and Amazon Video stream and download in HD?
The best way to check
1) Netflix - play the video called Test Patterns. After a few seconds, what is the resolution displayed in yellow text at the top?
2) Amazon Video - goto Settings, Stream & Download, Download Quality - then look at best, how much data does it use for 1 hour of video?
0.46GB of data and storage implies Standard Definition,
something like 1.82GB implies it streams in High Definition.
any help with this will be most appreciated.
I want to get an Android tablet that does both in HD, i can't believe the ipad and fire tablets are the only tablets that do both.
I'm hoping the Samsung tab S4 is the only android tablet that does. if so, i will buy one, but i'm not risking purchasing one only to find it doesn't do both in HD.
Thanks,
I tried both on my Tab S4 and my Note 9. The Tab S4 shows 1820x720 on Netflix and 0.46 on Prime. On the Note 9 I get no resolution shown in Netflix and 0.46 in Prime Video. Netflix lists the Tab S4 as being able to stream in HD and with HDR.
nrage23 said:
I tried both on my Tab S4 and my Note 9. The Tab S4 shows 1820x720 on Netflix and 0.46 on Prime. On the Note 9 I get no resolution shown in Netflix and 0.46 in Prime Video.
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thanks for this.
so it streams at 720p on netflix, not 1080p, but decent enough.
really disappointed to hear it doesn't support HD amazon video though.
as an FYI, the reason why you get no resolution shown in Netflix on your Note 9, the video is probably cropped due to the screen ratio of the Note 9.
if you zoom out, it will show you the resolution, almost certainly also at 1820x720
thanks for your response though.
i might just concede defeat and get a Amazon Fire HD 10 tablet.
I haven't noticed Netflix not being HD to be honest.
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The main question is it hardware or have Netflix just not added support for our device yet
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According to android police Netflix added HD/HDR support for the tab S4 and note 9 beginning of August
Reuben_skelz92 said:
I haven't noticed Netflix not being HD to be honest.
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The main question is it hardware or have Netflix just not added support for our device yet
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According to android police Netflix added HD/HDR support for the tab S4 and note 9 beginning of August
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Netflix is hd on this tablet (capped at 720p).
Its amazon video that is still sd by the sounds of it.
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Netflix is hd on this tablet (capped at 720p).
Its amazon video that is still sd by the sounds of it.
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If you go into Netflix settings and select high quality for downloaded an episode is 1.1gb
I get 1.82GB per hour of video downloaded on best with Prime on my Tab S4, but only after I've started streaming something.
Before that, it is 0.46GB per hour.
I think that when you first start the app, it hasn't determined its capabilities.
For example, I was streaming Preacher this evening and when I paused it showed it was playing in 1080p. Heading into the quality settings at this point showed 1.86GB of data per hour on both streaming and downloads. If I kill and restart Prime, it's back to 0.46GB.
Regards,
Dave
Thanks dave, that's really interesting to hear. I might have to purchase this tablet after all!!
Can anyone replicate downloads of 1.82gb per hour like dave stated above?
Thanks
My S9+ does exactly the same too.
0.46GB per hour until I start a stream and then I get much higher quality options.
Regards,
Dave
samxool said:
Thanks dave, that's really interesting to hear. I might have to purchase this tablet after all!!
Can anyone replicate downloads of 1.82gb per hour like dave stated above?
Thanks
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Confirmed. With Netflix though I'm not impressed at all. Properly HDR certified devices do display 1080p HDR, Tab S4 doesn't do 1080p nor HDR even though it shows HDR badge.
I've restored my Tab S 8.4 to original firmware and that thing is playing 1080p on Netflix yet Tab S4 only 720p. That is ridiculous.
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I've restored my Tab S 8.4 to original firmware and that thing is playing 1080p on Netflix yet Tab S4 only 720p. That is ridiculous.
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I agree. My 10 inch samsung tablet s1 does 1080p netflix ,so does my Lenovo yoga tab plus. Both confirmed with test patterns. why should a new tablet costing three times as much be capped at 720p?
The hacked for 1080p netflix apps probably offer a workaround but that just reinforces the stupidity.
Could it be that it is a trade off for having hdr, though surely a good smart TV delivers netflix with hdr and full hd or even 4k.
I will stick with what I already have, and with watching Amazon video in browser apps on desktop setting for 1080p
For those who say they can't see the hd difference, grab a 1080p hd download of something that is alsoon netflix then compare that local file in Plex or mx player on your device with what you see in the netflix app. The improvement is very noticeable to me, especially on faces closeups
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I agree. My 10 inch samsung tablet s1 does 1080p netflix ,so does my Lenovo yoga tab plus. Both confirmed with test patterns. why should a new tablet costing three times as much be capped at 720p?
The hacked for 1080p netflix apps probably offer a workaround but that just reinforces the stupidity.
Could it be that it is a trade off for having hdr, though surely a good smart TV delivers netflix with hdr and full hd or even 4k.
I will stick with what I already have, and with watching Amazon video in browser apps on desktop setting for 1080p
For those who say they can't see the hd difference, grab a 1080p hd download of something that is alsoon netflix then compare that local file in Plex or mx player on your device with what you see in the netflix app. The improvement is very noticeable to me, especially on faces closeups
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if this is true I hope they update the app soon.
is there a way to check if the HDR is actually working?
on Amazon prime is very clear, but not that clear on Netflix
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I agree. My 10 inch samsung tablet s1 does 1080p netflix ,so does my Lenovo yoga tab plus
Fyi to all. The bit rate for netflix full hd 1080p, as shown on screen using the test pattern videos, is I think 5.1 GBits, so 1.89 for same quality from Amazon seems low. But when watching Amazon video in tablet browser, there is a 1080p icon that appears at bottom left next to hd once the stream has gotten up to speed
I am almost sure that netflix download for later best rate is 720p, even on a device that will stream netflix at 1080p. The file sizes are below 1gb per hour on best rate, so unless that have really smart compression you get better quality by streaming. That may be checkable by using the windows 10 app from the windows store. As that also does download for later, but the app may not respond to the hot key tricks that force a speed,quality overlay in the browser
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I did a comparison yesterday with maniac. I downloaded the first 2 chapters in 1080p from the scene and compared them with the stream (HDR and 720p?).
I checked many parts of these two chapters, including some walls with small text advertisements etc.
Not only i could not see the 1080p better...in all cases the stream looked better and a bit sharper...
So or the stream is actually 1080p no matter what the pattern test says, or the stream is really good....
Looking at shows like godless (A personal favorite) ... the quality is so high, it looks so good sharp and bright, that honestly...I very much doubt that could look better.
Anyway, my observations only
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I did a comparison yesterday with maniac. I downloaded the first 2 chapters in 1080p from the scene and compared them with the stream (HDR and 720p?).
I checked many parts of these two chapters, including some walls with small text advertisements etc.
Not only i could not see the 1080p better...in all cases the stream looked better and a bit sharper...
So or the stream is actually 1080p no matter what the pattern test says, or the stream is really good....
Looking at shows like godless (A personal favorite) ... the quality is so high, it looks so good sharp and bright, that honestly...I very much doubt that could look better.
Anyway, my observations only
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netflix are very very good at optimising quality within any given bit rate and resolution. But I have compared 2 netflix streams on 10 inch tablets, of the same source. One at 720p on a fire hd10, one we 108op on a Samsung Tab s1. In that test the 1080p was superior.
Netflix Vs a scene release has more variables. What file size were your test files and if you download same from netflix what size is that
I guessed my real gripe is why do content providers and tablet manufacturers seemingly conspire to deny us the best possible bit rates. I know from using the hacked for l1 widevine netflix app that all my tablets can deliver a 1080p netflix stream by just havinf an app change a flag to make tablets appear as whitelisted for full hd. And I know from in browser tests that I can stream Amazon at 1080p but the Amazon app says non Amazon android gets sd only. Unless it is a Samsung S3. And not an s1, s2 or s4.
Thus my personal holy grail of an android tablet that runs both at 1080p out of the box via official apps remains unfulfilled. I am told that iPads can do it, so want no android solutions ?
I get full 1080p and HDR in Amazon with my tab S4...
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I get full 1080p and HDR in Amazon with my tab S4...
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That is Good to know, but you only get 720 from the official netflix app ?
I have my doubts but it seems so. Even if in my tests so far iI couln't see a better feed. I have checked against my tv (1080p) y galaxy s6 edge plus (test pattern says 1080p) the download from netflix (720p judging by the size of the file)
The downloaded from netflix 720p files (about 700mb for 45 min) looks much worse then the stream.
I cant see so far anything better than the tab s4 feed.
But i keep checking...
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I have my doubts but it seems so. Even if in my tests so far iI couln't see a better feed. I have checked against my tv (1080p) y galaxy s6 edge plus (test pattern says 1080p) the download from netflix (720p judging by the size of the file)
The downloaded from netflix 720p files (about 700mb for 45 min) looks much worse then the stream.
I cant see so far anything better than the tab s4 feed.
But i keep checking...
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It would be interesting to know what performance you get from a tweaked netflix app on the s4. I am not sure what links etc we can post here but I found one via Google quite easily
a search for netflix 1080p apk should do the trick.
The theory is just for the app to report that the device is a whitelisted one for 1080...