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If I but a epic form someone and I don't get a plan is the phone still functionable like wifi and GPS and other things?
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Yes. You'll have to skip activation then switch wifi on and sign into your google account.

Yes wifi and gps will work. Gps will require 3rd party software though. Google maps won't work because you won't have data. google maps will work over wifi if your in an area where wifi is all over the place.
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Unless I can find someone that will pay decently for it, I intend to keep mine after I upgrade my contract and use it as a toy .

Would you still be able to make calls, either through Google voice (with a google #), or through skype or some other app? This would essentially allow the phone to operate completely without a phone bill from what I understand. The only issue is being within range of wifi.
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NawtyB78 said:
Would you still be able to make calls, either through Google voice (with a google #), or through skype or some other app? This would essentially allow the phone to operate completely without a phone bill from what I understand. The only issue is being within range of wifi.
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I do this on my iTouch(the only Mac device I've ever bought ).
The simple answer is yes. Wifi powered apps can run through wifi while the phone CDMA signal is off (airplane mode?). Without getting too complicated, here's what you need:
1. Google Voice Account
2. Google Voice App (for SMS)
3. Sipgate.com Account (for Free Inbound Calls)
4. Sipdroid App registered with Sipgate account (for Calls)
5. Google Voice Callback (to Connect Free Inbound Sipgate Calls)
4-2. Acrobits Softphone has a built in GV dialer and will replace steps 4 and 5 for about $8
Free messaging and calls on a wifi only Epic. Win.

RandomKing said:
I do this on my iTouch(the only Mac device I've ever bought ).
The simple answer is yes. Wifi powered apps can run through wifi while the phone CDMA signal is off (airplane mode?). Without getting too complicated, here's what you need:
1. Google Voice Account
2. Google Voice App (for SMS)
3. Sipgate.com Account (for Free Inbound Calls)
4. Sipdroid App registered with Sipgate account (for Calls)
5. Google Voice Callback (to Connect Free Inbound Sipgate Calls)
4-2. Acrobits Softphone has a built in GV dialer and will replace steps 4 and 5 for about $8
Free messaging and calls on a wifi only Epic. Win.
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Sweetness. Thanks for the info.
Edit: I'd 'thank' you, but I can't seem to figure out to how to do that through the xda app...
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I have recently found a app called GrooVe IP.
thats all you need to do is login to your google voice account with the app.. and it makes and receives calls thru wifi, 3G/4G..
I have used it recently when I forgot to pay my sprint bill.. and they cut my phone half way off.. I was still able to make calls using this app..
the app is like 4 dollars..
here is the link with more info on it
http://www.appbrain.com/app/groove-ip/com.gvoip

bigdreco said:
I have recently found a app called GrooVe IP.
thats all you need to do is login to your google voice account with the app.. and it makes and receives calls thru wifi, 3G/4G..
I have used it recently when I forgot to pay my sprint bill.. and they cut my phone half way off.. I was still able to make calls using this app..
the app is like 4 dollars..
here is the link with more info on it
http://www.appbrain.com/app/groove-ip/com.gvoip
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Nice find! Not a very old app apparently... although I'm curious how it works. Google Voice doesn't have it's own Sip service, it simply connects two numbers together with your Voice # in between. You can call out from Gmail though, so maybe it's making use of that?
Either way, nice!

Thx u guys

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Nice find! Not a very old app apparently... although I'm curious how it works. Google Voice doesn't have it's own Sip service, it simply connects two numbers together with your Voice # in between. You can call out from Gmail though, so maybe it's making use of that?
Either way, nice!
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Yay! Quoting myself!
Moving on! So anyhow! I figured out how this works. Gmail started allowing calls out from its chat window about 8 months ago or so. Apparently, sometime after that, calls in were also allowed, making your Gmail window a free phone! I had already given up and moved on with a Sip phone and service, which allows you to not always have the Gmail window open to use... lol. But regardless, Groove IP takes advantage of these facts, and now basically pulls in your Google Talk functionality to make and receive calls all by itself!
What this means, is that under phones settings in Google Voice, you will have to enable call forwarding to Google Talk for Groove IP to completely work. Now know this, Google Talk does not use the latest and greatest Codecs for SIP, so it may not carry as good a call quality as using the GV + SIP option, but it certainly is simpler!
And with GV + Sprint integration now live and open, you can make your backup device carry the same number and functionality as your Sprint phone!

I have tried sipgate and the 'text you back' feature hasn't been working for me. Any suggestions?

bigdreco said:
I have recently found a app called GrooVe IP.
thats all you need to do is login to your google voice account with the app.. and it makes and receives calls thru wifi, 3G/4G..
I have used it recently when I forgot to pay my sprint bill.. and they cut my phone half way off.. I was still able to make calls using this app..
the app is like 4 dollars..
here is the link with more info on it
http://www.appbrain.com/app/groove-ip/com.gvoip
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Does anyone know of an IOS app that does the same thing? I've got extra ipods/iphones but not android devices. (I've looked at Fring but I assume it isn't doing this and is instead encouraging you to use their paid SIP gateway.)

Sorry for the delay in response, I try to have a life with my Fiancee on the weekend .
gdbassett said:
I have tried sipgate and the 'text you back' feature hasn't been working for me. Any suggestions?
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I'm not sure what you mean by 'text you back'.
gdbassett said:
Does anyone know of an IOS app that does the same thing? I've got extra ipods/iphones but not android devices. (I've looked at Fring but I assume it isn't doing this and is instead encouraging you to use their paid SIP gateway.)
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Acrobits Softphone will allow you to set a SipGate, or any similar SIP account, along with Google Voice as a call out dialer. Using this method, it will essentially dial itself, you'll answer SipGate through the app, and then it will call the other person. This app is available on both IOS and Android now, and was the best setup up until Groove IP. It may still be better, due to the different manners of operation, but the all-in-one solution of Groove is clearly very nice. However, the Softphone method is the best available AIO on IOS.

Using Google Voice for VM

Does anyone know if you use Google voice for voicemail only, does sprint quit classifying the number as a mobile for free minutes?
Also, can you still roll your Google voice number to your cell if you use GV for voicemail?
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virgillette said:
Does anyone know if you use Google voice for voicemail only, does sprint quit classifying the number as a mobile for free minutes?
Also, can you still roll your Google voice number to your cell if you use GV for voicemail?
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Integrate google voice with your sprint number. Problem solved.
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I know calling a Google voice number isn't included in your free cell phone minutes as they don't consider GV a cell number.
Also I know you can't forward a GV number to another GV number. I use GV for business calls. Currently I can forward to my cell when I want. I am asking if I lose that ability if I use GV for voicemail.
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virgillette said:
I know calling a Google voice number isn't included in your free cell phone minutes as they don't consider GV a cell number.
Also I know you can't forward a GV number to another GV number. I use GV for business calls. Currently I can forward to my cell when I want. I am asking if I lose that ability if I use GV for voicemail.
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I believe the issue is that you and your business would share outgoing messages. That is why I do not use it for my Sprint number and only for my business number. I remember reading about the minutes issue. If you get the right supervisor, they can add 3 landline phone numbers to your account which you can call for free. I forgot what it was called but it took me to calls and a supervisor and they added it to both my lines and of course put my Google Voice number in as 1 of the numbers.

I was more concerned for all the people that call me expecting that they are calling my cell and getting a free call. I think I will just leave VM with sprint. Thanks for the info.

virgillette said:
I was more concerned for all the people that call me expecting that they are calling my cell and getting a free call. I think I will just leave VM with sprint. Thanks for the info.
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Yes that is a Google issue and how they are listed on each carriers' servers. I am not sure who would be responsible to fix that. I would guess Google. It needs to detect the type of device it is forwarding to and broadcast that properly to the carrier. It may be a landline that some people use, it may not be.
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[Q] Setting up Google Voice without a carrier number

Hey guys. I had a sprint number that has since been disconnected. I am using MIUI now and I can send texts just fine using the Google Voice app over wifi. When I try to update to a new version of MIUI I can't go through the steps to verify my number because it no longer exists.
Anyone have a work around for this? I have tried restoring the app with titanium backup but it wants me to set it up again each time.
Stumped at to what to do. I set it up before without the phone number, but now I can't seem to figure it out.

michaelvibe said:
Hey guys. I had a sprint number that has since been disconnected. I am using MIUI now and I can send texts just fine using the Google Voice app over wifi. When I try to update to a new version of MIUI I can't go through the steps to verify my number because it no longer exists.
Anyone have a work around for this? I have tried restoring the app with titanium backup but it wants me to set it up again each time.
Stumped at to what to do. I set it up before without the phone number, but now I can't seem to figure it out.
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+1, trying to setup Google Voice with a Line2 number, no success yet.
Won't be any either, they only support major carriers.

Just go to the online Google Voice settings and add a phone number in it. You don't have to keep the number on the account; it just needs to be there long enough to get through setup in the Google Voice app.
I have a deactivated device that I can make VOIP calls with using my Google Voice number with the native dialer, and text through the native SMS app.

Captain_Throwback said:
Just go to the online Google Voice settings and add a phone number in it. You don't have to keep the number on the account; it just needs to be there long enough to get through setup in the Google Voice app.
I have a deactivated device that I can make VOIP calls with using my Google Voice number with the native dialer, and text through the native SMS app.
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Not over WiFi though right?
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kchannel9 said:
Not over WiFi though right?
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Not sure I understand - of course it works on WiFi . The device is deactivated - how else would you be able to connect, and/or use the phone?

Captain_Throwback said:
Not sure I understand - of course it works on WiFi . The device is deactivated - how else would you be able to connect, and/or use the phone?
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You can dial out with your stock dialer with Google Voice over just WiFi, without any service?
When I try that, it says Dialing with Google Voice, and then "Mobile Network not available" immediately afterwards and no call. What am I doing wrong? Also there seems to be no way to dial out from my Line2 VOIP line as if the number was my GV number. GV is confusing

kchannel9 said:
You can dial out with your stock dialer with Google Voice over just WiFi, without any service?
When I try that, it says Dialing with Google Voice, and then "Mobile Network not available" immediately afterwards and no call. What am I doing wrong? Also there seems to be no way to dial out from my Line2 VOIP line as if the number was my GV number. GV is confusing
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Do you have it set up? You have to set up PBXes and it essentially uses Google Talk to connect to the internet dialer so you can make phone calls.
Just Google for the guide on setting up Google Voice with Android PBXes and native dialer.

Try Groove Ip. My Sprint Number has been disconnected & I been using this to make calls & texts over WiFi. I set it up fine after switching Roms but my voice number was already setup on the sprint # that has been turned off. Try going to your voice options on your browser & see if you can change anything there.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...1bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5zbnJibGFicy5ncm9vdmVpcCJd

Exiled44 said:
Try Groove Ip. My Sprint Number has been disconnected & I been using this to make calls & texts over WiFi. I set it up fine after switching Roms but my voice number was already setup on the sprint # that has been turned off. Try going to your voice options on your browser & see if you can change anything there.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...1bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5zbnJibGFicy5ncm9vdmVpcCJd
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Does this use the Internet Calling features of the native dialer, or is the app required to make and receive calls? I prefer using the native dialer as it works correctly with bluetooth.

Exiled44 said:
Try Groove Ip. My Sprint Number has been disconnected & I been using this to make calls & texts over WiFi. I set it up fine after switching Roms but my voice number was already setup on the sprint # that has been turned off. Try going to your voice options on your browser & see if you can change anything there.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...1bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5zbnJibGFicy5ncm9vdmVpcCJd
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Thank you, this worked well, I'm still playing with it but, I think I'll be able to replace Line2. :good:
Update: After using it for a few days, I tried out Sparephone ($3 in the play store) and loved it way more. Now I'm working on a plan to switch to Ting and ditch Line2 (replacing with Sparephone and GV), and I'll be saving like, literally $140 a month (!!)....it sounds crazy but I'm pretty sure it'll work. I love GV!
Update: Yeah it totally works, no more Line2.

If you are on GB you can use Google voice version 3.2 and it will use your gtalk instead of having to use the phones number to verify. Also you can use groove IP or talkatone to make calls with Google voice. I have been using this way for 2+ years now with a Wifi Hotspot that I carry in my pocket. I am pretty much through with Mobile carriers now. If on ICS or JB then you would have needed to have confirmed a number at some point in the past in order to verify it with the newer version of Google voice. Unfortunately version 3.2 or older does not work with ICS or JB.

Has anyone found a solution for Google Voice and Tmobile Prepaid?

Has anyone found a workaround for conditional call forwarding issue with t-mobile prepaid? I NEED my google visual voicemail and I wanna use my ported SIM card number. There has to be a fix for this!
I wonder why tmobile would not allow this?
I would be nice to start a signature sheet showing the interest in them fixing this setting.

I would like to see this working also, but it's up to T-Mo...

evperry said:
Has anyone found a workaround for conditional call forwarding issue with t-mobile prepaid? I NEED my google visual voicemail and I wanna use my ported SIM card number. There has to be a fix for this!
I wonder why tmobile would not allow this?
I would be nice to start a signature sheet showing the interest in them fixing this setting.
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I think for now the only "fix" is to start a new SIM account with a throwaway number and port your desired number from T-MO to Google Voice. Don't give out the throwaway number and use GV for everything.

The problem with that is that you use their sms services. No MMS and the phone doesn't control the sms at all.
I have a straight talk sim on the way and I am gonna compare the service, although it doesn't look good with straight talk in NYC.
cmstlist said:
I think for now the only "fix" is to start a new SIM account with a throwaway number and port your desired number from T-MO to Google Voice. Don't give out the throwaway number and use GV for everything.
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I guess not enough of us are affected. If this thread got large enough I wonder would tmobile consider adding the option?
danger-rat said:
I would like to see this working also, but it's up to T-Mo...
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evperry said:
If this thread got large enough I wonder would tmobile consider adding the option?
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No, I don't think T-mobile would care.

I believe all prepaid services are currently unable to use GV. They need "Conditional Call Forwarding" which is a feature not included with Prepaid plans. Straight Talk is what I use, and they also do not have conditional call forwarding.

cmstlist said:
I think for now the only "fix" is to start a new SIM account with a throwaway number and port your desired number from T-MO to Google Voice. Don't give out the throwaway number and use GV for everything.
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This.
Using GV for everything isn't as scary as people think. I quickly got over the lack of MMS support (email is a better standard for such things anyway). I love the ability to text from my main number in the browser regardless of how far away I am from my phone.

atoz350 said:
I believe all prepaid services are currently unable to use GV. They need "Conditional Call Forwarding" which is a feature not included with Prepaid plans. Straight Talk is what I use, and they also do not have conditional call forwarding.
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Just FYI the new Solavei service which operates on T-Mobile has call forwarding. I know because mine is working right now. You can visit this thread for discussion about it if you like.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1873140

atoz350 said:
I believe all prepaid services are currently unable to use GV. They need "Conditional Call Forwarding" which is a feature not included with Prepaid plans. Straight Talk is what I use, and they also do not have conditional call forwarding.
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Straight Talk has conditional call forwarding. I'm using it right now.

Yeah straighttalk has it but doesnt work well in NYC. I am however trying it out. If the speeds and coverage is close I might switch. I just dont wanna get cut off and loose my number as is the case with some people.
martonikaj said:
Straight Talk has conditional call forwarding. I'm using it right now.
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evperry said:
Has anyone found a workaround for conditional call forwarding issue with t-mobile prepaid? I NEED my google visual voicemail and I wanna use my ported SIM card number. There has to be a fix for this!
I wonder why tmobile would not allow this?
I would be nice to start a signature sheet showing the interest in them fixing this setting.
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If nothing else works you can call t mobile customer service and ask them to remove voice mail completely - I made two Boost mobile phones work with Google Voice that way - it works perfectly.
This would obviously work if you want to use GV number for everything - for me it is no problem since I use mostly Google Voice numbers since 2005 or 2006, or from the beginning of GrandCentral.

I've made the switch to just Google voice and I never looked back. I don't even know what my "real" number is. Like someone else said about MMS, emailing pics works just fine for me.
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martonikaj said:
Straight Talk has conditional call forwarding. I'm using it right now.
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Straight Talk ATT sim has conditional call forwarding... Straight Talk T-Mobile sim does not....
That's the choice... faster data or google voice for voicemail.... I've been on Tmobile $30 plan for over 2 months now.. Data is great, but I have found that 2GB is enough for me a lot thanks to Opera Mini and the voip solutions have not worked well. I really has a disdane for calling / prompt voicemail so I am going to give the ATT service a try here in Portland next month. I'll post some results when I get the ST ATT sim

I am trying to understand the issue here. I have Verizon currently and am using a GV # with no issues. My calls come in great, I use GV as my voice mail, and gv for texting. No one knows my verizon number.
I want to get an unlocked phone, and move to TMobile prepaid plan. My goal is to use my current GV number, and use google voice mail and texting too.
What problems will I encounter?

cegarbage said:
I am trying to understand the issue here. I have Verizon currently and am using a GV # with no issues. My calls come in great, I use GV as my voice mail, and gv for texting. No one knows my verizon number.
I want to get an unlocked phone, and move to TMobile prepaid plan. My goal is to use my current GV number, and use google voice mail and texting too.
What problems will I encounter?
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The only problem you will have is if someone calls your TMobile number when it's time to go to voicemail it will not go to Google voice voicemail. This it not a problem if, like me, no one has your TMobile number anyways. Everything else works the same way that is does on Verizon.
You can have TMobile disable voice mail so if some random person calls your TMobile number you won't ever have to worry about getting the vm from someone you don't know. Ie tele marketers.

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Ulver said:
I've made the switch to just Google voice and I never looked back. I don't even know what my "real" number is. Like someone else said about MMS, emailing pics works just fine for me.
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The text messages are handled through google voice too?

I ported my number to Google and use GV integration app so I can use stock messaging app. No problem at all except for not being able to send MMS, however I receive every MMS sent to me automatically via Google's MMS to email feature.
P.S. Im on straight talk /T-Mobile
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Is there any way to port your number to GV but still use the stock messaging app?

dbolot1 said:
I ported my number to Google and use GV integration app so I can use stock messaging app. No problem at all except for not being able to send MMS, however I receive every MMS sent to me automatically via Google's MMS to email feature.
P.S. Im on straight talk /T-Mobile
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This only works if the MMS is from a Sprint user though.

Need help configuring Google voice on 4.3 gpe

Well I know I seen my buddy's s4 set up when he placed a outgoing call it said call with or without Google voice number
I'm on Virginrom 4.3 I know it's a way to set it up but someone said has to be done on a desktop then a text to the phone . So in the end u ultimately get the optiom from stock dialer to call out with cell number or Google number.
But I'm not sure what to set up on Google/voice settings .
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When you log into the Google Voice app, it will take you step by step setting up. One of the step is the options to set if you want GV to make the calls or not.
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baseballfanz said:
When you log into the Google Voice app, it will take you step by step setting up. One of the step is the options to set if you want GV to make the calls or not.
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Perfect got that part set up. .. the only other thing I want to set up is for people who dial and call my actual cell number to have them calls forward /ring to my google voice number. Thia is moreless the work around I have to do cause of bad cell signal at home and for the sake of havong to give people my google voice number id rather them call my cell but have it actually forward to my gvoice that way it rings in off wifi calling and not the reg cell signal.
Is this possible?
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lojak29 said:
Perfect got that part set up. .. the only other thing I want to set up is for people who dial and call my actual cell number to have them calls forward /ring to my google voice number. Thia is moreless the work around I have to do cause of bad cell signal at home and for the sake of havong to give people my google voice number id rather them call my cell but have it actually forward to my gvoice that way it rings in off wifi calling and not the reg cell signal.
Is this possible?
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I could be wrong but I don't think it's possible. I believed if you forward your cell # to your GV #, it would go to the GV voice mail box. Google might be a better source of info on how to get it working if possible.
Let me see if I can set it up on my phone to see if it work or not.