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T989 Quadrant scores

I have seen the videos showing 3800 scores. I bought 2 of these today and i can not get above 2700. Anyone have any suggestions?

My first two were 3300, third time 2800.
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Quadrant doesn't matter!

its the GPU on our dual core snapdragons that lag behind the other exynous cpu-equipped sgs2 variants. Unless you're a hardcore gamer these numbers are meaningless. Other than that this phone does remarkably well in real world use.
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on first run i hit 3500's

ryan562 said:
its the GPU on our dual core snapdragons that lag behind the other exynous cpu-equipped sgs2 variants. Unless you're a hardcore gamer these numbers are meaningless. Other than that this phone does remarkably well in real world use.
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yeah, except you dont have snapdragons.... you have scorpion.

i hit 3400 on stores demo unit .scores will vary i usually just run three tests and see what the phone does that will give you a good idea

U Flippin Idiot said:
I have seen the videos showing 3800 scores. I bought 2 of these today and i can not get above 2700. Anyone have any suggestions?
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Yes, I got mine yesterday and figured out how to get past 3800. No mod/tweeks needed.
Proof is in the attachment.
Reboot phone -> end all processes -> Run Quadrant(4 - 5 times) generally the 4th or 5th one is the highest score.
I start from 3200-3300 and end up between 3700-3800.
I am also sure that with mods and better overclock you can possibly hit 4.5k

hiko007 said:
Yes, I got mine yesterday and figured out how to get past 3800. No mod/tweeks needed.
Proof is in the attachment.
Reboot phone -> end all processes -> Run Quadrant(4 - 5 times) generally the 4th or 5th one is the highest score.
I start from 3200-3300 and end up between 3700-3800.
I am also sure that with mods and better overclock you can possibly hit 4.5k
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Your right. Rebooted ran it and hit 3200 then 3799.
I was more wondering on this. I actually love this phone but cannot believe they took the tethering and wifi calling out. Tethering I'm not worried about as soon as we have root we will get it.

Enzopreme said:
yeah, except you dont have snapdragons.... you have scorpion.
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Lol smh. You seem to be uniformed. The snapdragon is the total package..the scorpion is the cpu core of the snapdragon
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U Flippin Idiot said:
Your right. Rebooted ran it and hit 3200 then 3799.
I was more wondering on this. I actually love this phone but cannot believe they took the tethering and wifi calling out. Tethering I'm not worried about as soon as we have root we will get it.
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Are you sure about tethering and wifi hotspots? because I do see an option for it on my S2. I just tried it and the wifi hotspot does work aswell.
It is the pink icon called "Wifi Sharing".

greengoldmello said:
Lol smh. You seem to be uniformed. The snapdragon is the total package..the scorpion is the cpu core of the snapdragon
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Correct. The official name of the chip is Snapdragon S3.

The phone is all over the place with quadrant scores. My highest score has been 3801 with my lowest being around 2400.

Try cfbench it for dual core cpu's
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U Flippin Idiot said:
I have seen the videos showing 3800 scores. I bought 2 of these today and i can not get above 2700. Anyone have any suggestions?
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I got 3500 yesterday. So maybe like everyone else says quadrant doesn't matter? But it is still mild indicator of how your phone may be to me.
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jongzor said:
The phone is all over the place with quadrant scores. My highest score has been 3801 with my lowest being around 2400.
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Asynchronous that's why once someone gets the cores to take on task together instead of acting as an individual cpu you should get more stable quadrant scores. Quadrant does not if I'm correct no the difference between two cores or 1 core.

hiko007 said:
Are you sure about tethering and wifi hotspots? because I do see an option for it on my S2. I just tried it and the wifi hotspot does work aswell.
It is the pink icon called "Wifi Sharing".
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It is there but when you go to it you get the notification for the upgrade to your account. It is not unlocked like most phones thru them.

yea games u can see it doesnt run well at all and i play alot of games like city jump u can see the frame rate being lost
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I_am_Error said:
I got 3500 yesterday. So maybe like everyone else says quadrant doesn't matter? But it is still mild indicator of how your phone may be to me.
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it does matter other phones quadrant scores are not all over the place they are steddy and i shouldnt have to reboot my phone just to get a high score looks to me something is not working right with the phone i do see some lag playing 1080p videos in the web so maybe the developers can fix these problems

greengoldmello said:
lol smh. You seem to be uniformed. The snapdragon is the total package..the scorpion is the cpu core of the snapdragon
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. Lol

Just got one of these phones as well, unfortunately, I feel like home screen swipes with all alternatives and touch wiz are really laggy. Anyone else experiencing this? The scroll just seems to get jerky when you swipe. Really annoying.

Why are my Quadrant tests getting around 1400??

Any idea? Most reviews i saw for the GNex shows it getting 1700-2000+.
Meaningless or not, i wanna know why it's so much less.
Wtf

just4747 said:
Any idea? Most reviews i saw for the GNex shows it getting 1700-2000+.
Meaningless or not, i wanna know why it's so much less.
Wtf
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I checked it right when I got the phone for the hell of it and got around the same number. The only thing I care about is if it will lag with daily use. If it doesn't I don't care if it has half a core and 1 byte of ram.

Quadrant scores are meaningless and don't give any indication of how the phone performs in real world use.
My old Galaxy S2 scored 4000+ in quadrant but does it feel 3 times faster than my Nexus definitely no!

Again, I don't care about what the test actually means but why are our scores so much lower on the same device compared to the reviews show? What is different and why? It leads me to believe that something is wrong.

I freaked too, but I think its bs. If you install System Monitor you can watch both CPU cores in action. Also, other bench tests clearly show that you're getting dual core performance. I think Quadrant will need an update.

just4747 said:
Again, I don't care about what the test actually means but why are our scores so much lower on the same device compared to the reviews show? What is different and why? It leads me to believe that something is wrong.
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I get around 1400+ as well in quadrant and I don't think there is anything wrong as when I first got my GS2 my scores where lower than what was seen online from reviewers as well.
Don't forget they probably had a phone with no extra apps on it or just the bare minimum which could also affect the scores.

daleski75 said:
I get around 1400+ as well in quadrant and I don't think there is anything wrong as when I first got my GS2 my scores where lower than what was seen online from reviewers as well.
Don't forget they probably had a phone with no extra apps on it or just the bare minimum which could also affect the scores.
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I got a 1700 reading from quadrant. I don't know if quadrant takes advantage of the dualcore cpu?
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Herman76 said:
I got a 1700 reading from quadrant. I don't know if quadrant takes advantage of the dualcore cpu?
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I think it doesn't and it needs a desperate update anyway to fully support ICS.
Someone correct me if I am wrong about quadrant standard not seeing both cores?

It's the higher resolution mainly.
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[Q] Extremely low quadrant score. What do i do?

Okay, so the other day, i ran quadrant on my gs2 against my brohters gs4g and i got 3259 and my brother got 938. I tried again today, and i got 1208 and the gs4g got 1190. i ran the test seversl times and the same result, nothing more than 1300. I didn't change anything from the first time i ran the test, so is my phone messed up? I know most people don't really like quadrant, but i use it because it kind of gives me peace of mind knowing my phone is better thssn everyone else's

Don't worry about it. It really doesnt matter.
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Reboot your phone then wait for about 30 seconds while everything settles (dont run any other apps) then run quadrant. What score did you get this time?

I tried the reboot thing after the first low score and pretty much the same score
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kkg720 said:
I tried the reboot thing after the first low score and pretty much the same score
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I would just throw it out the window bro.......thats too low to be in hand.

KillaHurtz said:
I would just throw it out the window bro.......thats too low to be in hand.
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Hilarious man
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kkg720 said:
Okay, so the other day, i ran quadrant on my gs2 against my brohters gs4g and i got 3259 and my brother got 938. I tried again today, and i got 1208 and the gs4g got 1190. i ran the test seversl times and the same result, nothing more than 1300. I didn't change anything from the first time i ran the test, so is my phone messed up? I know most people don't really like quadrant, but i use it because it kind of gives me peace of mind knowing my phone is better thssn everyone else's
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Quadrant doesnt go well with Dual Core Snapdragon Processors. I've been getting 2000 each time a ran it. Try ANTUTU Benchmark and see what you get.
Quandrant doesnt define a phone of how great your phone is.

Or CF bench works well!
SGSII T989~ juggernaut v4.1~synergy v0.10

Quadrant is a horribly outdated benchmark, don't rely on it ever.
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iExpliziT said:
Quadrant doesnt go well with Dual Core Snapdragon Processors. I've been getting 2000 each time a ran it. Try ANTUTU Benchmark and see what you get.
Quandrant doesnt define a phone of how great your phone is.
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I'll take what AnTuTu Benchmark gave me.. Listed me at 6327... Just over the Nexus ;-)
Main thing that brought me down as my stupid SD card because I have some generic piece of junk --- EDIT: Just ran it against the internal SD, and I got 6577. Even above the Galaxy Note ;-)

I know that quadrant is not optimized for dual core, but that doesnt explain why i was getting 3000+ and it just dropped to less than 1000
Btw antutu was 6492 idk if thats good or bad so...
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Freeze Google maps with titanium back up and see what u get ...
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maek_it_happen said:
Freeze Google maps with titanium back up and see what u get ...
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Maps is really that big of a culprit?
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These threads get so old. Does everything work on your phone? Is it smooth and responsive? Then who cares what some outdated benchmark says. You are the benchmark.

I changed the rom on my friend's mytouch 4g and he scored 3246 on miui oc to 1.6 ghz lagfree, It beat my gs2 running zombie oc to 1.72 ghz lagfree 2976 i dont think quadrant is an accurate benchmark at all, so markus is right, YOU are the benchmark.

High benchmark, what set up?

I eventually ran a benchmark on my CarbonROM install on my Sprint Galaxy Nexus, clocked at a max of 1.6
But, I saw that my device compared to others is just super super low, I don't have the numbers on me as I don't have my phone, but if you're one of those people who have a high benchmark score, what's your setup?
I know it's said that benchmarks aren't important, but they at least have to mean something with performance.
So, what are you running?

Try flashing franco.Kernel. Makes a huge difference!
Before franco: 2204
After franco: 2932 (Quadrant Standard)
ROM: PACman ROM, 1.2 GHz

Seriously, there should be a thread stickied for the bench freaks, all in the same place. *sigh*
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bk201doesntexist said:
Seriously, there should be a thread stickied for the bench freaks, all in the same place. *sigh*
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There is one. Just needs sticky-ing.

Beauenheim said:
I know it's said that benchmarks aren't important, but they at least have to mean something with performance.
So, what are you running?
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See, the thing is, benchmarks really do mean nothing. Benchmarks don't affect how well your device performs. If it runs fast, it runs fast-- you don't need the benchmark to know that.
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Beauenheim said:
I know it's said that benchmarks aren't important, but they at least have to mean something with performance.
So, what are you running?
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Yeah. Because being able to crunch 110,000,000 triangles vs 90,000,000 has real world implications.

Yay! It's been a while since we've had a thread to remind us how useless benchmarks are and offer us all an opportunity to debate about it, yet again.:good:

I make my words what Chainfire said, but globaly.
If you trust benchmark results, you'll know that running naked in the garden for 5mins will affects performance by 20%

Neat, alright.
So absolutely nothing?
That really doesn't make any sense to me. Those 90,000,000 triangles being processed will at least show me how well it will do in a game, to a degree, right?

Not in any way you could actually notice. That was also an extreme hyperbole as far as differences go. To be totally honest, the only real value of benchmarks is stress testing an OC but even then there are better ways.

063_XOBX said:
Not in any way you could actually notice. That was also an extreme hyperbole as far as differences go. To be totally honest, the only real value of benchmarks is stress testing an OC but even then there are better ways.
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Well alright, thanks for your insight. I've been in the android game for awhile but I don't know a lot of these things.

Benchmarking weirdness

I just want to know if anyome can explain why when running antutu benchmarks I cant even get scores equal to the score the app says I should be getting for this phone let alone better ones. Infact I often get much worse scores not even close to what it says I should be getting. Even more so Im running custom rom with overclocked kernel and its just sad. When u look to see what your device other are gettibg score wise there is like a major difference. I get like 10,000 to like 14,000. Iv tried using set cpu to make it run better with no success. And I tried using the app that came with the kernel to make it better by changing some settings and still nothing. It seems like nothibg I do can even get me scores that the phone should get as an average let alone better ones even when overclocked and such.
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Funny you should post this...
I was angonizing over my scores a month or so ago, and was not getting scores even close to what I expected.
The tests made me so mad I gave up and went stock...LOL
Benchmarks are affected by soooooo many variables within the OS, they are often considered eye wash for speed related results.
The rom you run, the kernel, modem, background processing, data, wifi....blah blah blah....LOL
You see where I'm going with this ??
Stock TW based builds always run the best for me, and give the best scores...(remember, they dont mean much really).....really
If your device runs well, gets good battery life, and you are happy with the choice in roms you have made, then dont worry about antutu, or anything else.
Raw scores are called raw for a reason, as they are base estimates of a perceived result.
True testing of a device must be done under a set of rules only a factory can measure.....IMHO, and unless the devices being tested are paired "EXACTLY" the same, then the comparisons are flawed anyway......at least thats how i see it.....g

I understand that and I know how it affects but its more of a I do notice when my phone is quick or not and the scores usually reflect that. When I had my optimus g with it running alot more crap I was gettibg betyer scores and it wasnt overclocked and all that it was just stock. So I really believe that it should be running better than its showing leaving me to believe that there is somethibg wrong with the kernel or something. I have done this with quite a few devices and there usualky a noticeable difference from stock to overclocked scores. But with this phone seems like it dosent show on this phone.
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Very possible. ..
Most reports for this quad core tell us that overclocking takes the device a bit backward in speed and performance.
I overclocked for a few weeks, and saw no appreciable performance gains.
The end result for me was a stock variant rom and a stock kernel.
I then gained transition speeds with launcher changes.
Nova launcher, with the transition speeds set to maximum is quite impressive. And graphical transitions were running best at stock speeds.
I might get flamed for this, but I would honestly say that with minor UI adjustment, and stock kernels, this device needs very little if any real change at all to achieve the best performance.
Mileage will vary, but I'm staying rooted stock with a custom launcher.
Everything else seems to drag this device down. ..g

My real main issie is with gaming on the decice I notice glitching and slowness quite often and I just feel jipped. It is quad core 2gb of ram why is it so ****. I had the optimus g and it was amazing I only went to this phone for the screen size.
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theshamrockking said:
My real main issie is with gaming on the decice I notice glitching and slowness quite often and I just feel jipped. It is quad core 2gb of ram why is it so ****. I had the optimus g and it was amazing I only went to this phone for the screen size.
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It's been said that our note 2 is a bit lacking with the current GPU...although, a GPU overclock may help you the most, while leaving the CPU alone.
I've not tried any GPU modifications, unless the Roms I've used included them without my knowledge....g

I did try and overclock the gpu and I get vaired results I havent tried playing any of my graphically intense games yet so im not sure but I believe it may have slightly helped. Its too bad I had thought that the mali chip was better than the 330 thats in most high end phones now.
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I dont dare say that mali is poor, but I am willing to say that it does get outshined on more than one occasion....g

Thats just too bad. Maybe the note 3 will run nicer. Although if they do indeed increase the screen size again I dont think I will be abke to handle it so for my sake I hope it stays similar in size. This phone is about as big as im going to want.
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theshamrockking said:
Thats just too bad. Maybe the note 3 will run nicer. Although if they do indeed increase the screen size again I dont think I will be abke to handle it so for my sake I hope it stays similar in size. This phone is about as big as im going to want.
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Agreed....
This device is more than big enough. And overall, I'm happy with it. The performance is adequate for most applications, and unless a user pushes it really hard, the phone just runs well.
Not superb, but well....IMHO....g

gregsarg said:
Agreed....
This device is more than big enough. And overall, I'm happy with it. The performance is adequate for most applications, and unless a user pushes it really hard, the phone just runs well.
Not superb, but well....IMHO....g
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Oh I totally agree. I guess I only notice any thing because that optimus g blew me away. Considering I had previously had a htc vivid and a galaxy nexus as the best phones and so the optimus was amazing. This is more than adequate and I guess more so than the optimus as that had errors just trying to run some games. Like as if the game wasnt able to play well with the hardware. SoI more than like this phone.
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You should be trading your note for the optimal g. Benchmark scores are essentially useless and you shouldn't be bothering with them.
Seems like you would be happier with your old phone.
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theshamrockking said:
Oh I totally agree. I guess I only notice any thing because that optimus g blew me away. Considering I had previously had a htc vivid and a galaxy nexus as the best phones and so the optimus was amazing. This is more than adequate and I guess more so than the optimus as that had errors just trying to run some games. Like as if the game wasnt able to play well with the hardware. SoI more than like this phone.
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If you liked that g....just wait until the Optimus Pro hits...LOL
It's a bit cheaper built I think, but wow...It's a runner...(so they say)
check out it's specs on google....
The note3 will need to compete directly with it, and a few other choice pieces of hardware in the next 6 months if Sammy wants to stay on top.
The improvements from the note1 to this device are staggering, I can only imagine what a note3 will run like.....g

Oh yes iv read plenty about the g pro and it does sound nice iv thought about trying to trade the note for it. But I then remember the reasons I wanted the note instead. Its the dev comunity and the work that gets done. There was the boringist stuff going on over there. And plus it seems like the samsung devices hold value better and juat plane better ui than lg. Ao I like what I have juat miss some of the faster and smoother useI got out of the optimus.
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LittleRedDot said:
You should be trading your note for the optimal g. Benchmark scores are essentially useless and you shouldn't be bothering with them.
Seems like you would be happier with your old phone.
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To be honest benckmarks do matter but only if you really understand them and know how to use them. Im not just someone who sees **** score or awesome scores an decides anything. But the scores do matter. If u took a droid x and ran benchmarks and got **** scores and then ran this not you would see a difference. They matter just if you choose to see it. I know many many people who try and try to convince others that benchmarks dont matter when all a benckmark is is a test of the hardware and if u use the same program on different devices you will note the different qualitys in the scores. Showing you the pieces of hardware or software mostky hardware that is better or worse. Like with the mali vs the 330. Or the quad s4 vs I forget what is in this device. Or an amd vs a intel. They show what does what best. If you know what you are doing.
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I don't believe in benchmarks. I can run antutu and get xyz score, then run it again 10 seconds later and get abc score, then run it again 10 seconds late and lmn score, all to varying degrees. It's a gimmick.
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If the scores vary drastically its probably because of the background services and apps doing things. Sometimes there is less sometimes more. U either take that into account or you do it with a fresh phone with nothibg on it. Including no google account. Just sideload the app and then run the test and do it a few times they should be more similar.
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Regardless of scores. .. and considering the drastically different user habits, I do believe Samsung found excellent balance in both form and function with this device.
To add more power would kill battery. And drive the device size even larger.
I do feel they have a great balance here.
The note3 should become an absolute power phone if they build from this base....IMHO....g