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[Q] Snes Emulation woes - Latency and Emulation problems

Hello all.
I am having problems with emulation on my newly purchased xperia play.
I downloaded snesoid because I was recommended to get it by a friend *and apparently the internet is crazy about it*. When I tried playing Megaman X on it, there was very noticeable slowdown. The first stage *highway* ran at noticeably slower speeds than it did on the snes. It was playable, but felt sluggish. At first I was okay with this, but then I played it on my friend's phone just to test it out, and his was runninghttp://media.xda-developers.com/images/editor/menupop.gif it perfectly.
Does anyone know why that may be?
I also downloaded snes9x ex to test it out, and the app runs great! Problem with this app, unfortunately, is the VERY noticeable input latency. It makes platformers really odd to play on with.
I tried Seiken Densetsu 3 on Snesoid as well, and that game glitches out every conversation that comes up. The screen will flicker for a second. Very jarring.
Has anyone else experienced these kind of things with theirs, and if so, does anyone know a fix for this?
If this is phone specific, I am just going to return it since it only has been a day and just get a new one, but I want to make sure I can't do anything to fix it on my end before hand, this way I can at least learn something about these phones if there is a fix I CAN do at home, since I currently am a huge phone noob.

Something very interesting I just noticed.
Just tried Megaman X2 and X3 and those games run perfectly.
Color me confused.

Yea, SNES9x plays better with less glitches, but has noticeable button lag. Took forever for me to beat DKC, especially the mine cart stages.

Im sorry to hear about your problem mate but mine seems to run all of the games perfectly smooth. Ive had no such issues yet regarding the snesoid emulator.
If you feel strongly about it I would suggest trying out a new sexplay.

Also note the programs you have running in your running services log. Something there may be interfering with your gameplay. I can't seem to use Swiftkey X on my Xplay as it causes lag that kills the experience on nearly every game I play.
But the button lag is something you will have to deal with on any XPlay and SNES9x. Unfortunate, and hopefully will be fixed by the author at some point.

Is there button input lag with Snes A.D (free emulator on market) ?
Could someone test it for me ? I'm supposed to get the phone next week, and I chose it especially for emulation so I'd be disappointed if there are any issues with SNES games.

Have had not any issues with these games.
I use SnesOid and TigerSNES - both free.

same here,gensoid running silky smooth,fpse running perfectly fine,tiger arcade for th e most games also good,but imho useless cause no dip switch access or neo geo rom settings(tried that mame4all but no thanks,seems it support only legacy roms,don`t wanna convert all my roms for that program,the few that were running on mame4all were also laggy)
but snesoid(latest version) isn`t running good,as i stated in another thread.
for example super castlevania 4,it doesn`t matter if frameskip is on or off,set to manual or auto,it`s far away from running smooth,there is a slight stuttering when you look at the background as your character moves forward-also numerous other games..tried snes 9x or what is called,realized it doesn`t load any of my snes roms because it cant read .zip files,only .smc and even with .smc it won`t open some roms.i`ll try this tiger snes now

Hated SNES A.D. looking for a good emu right now too.

when u complain about noticeable input lag in snes9x, what kind of games are u playing? ive never really had any issues with it since its around a 10th of a second (tbh i doubt id ever of noticed it playing things like super metroid)
all of my games are in .zip files and ive never had any issues with the emulator at all, destroys snesoid imo. i do hope that the input lag is fixed, but overall i think its a much better emulator than anything else available.

I sure would like to try snes9x.... can't find it though! Little help?
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i noticed just earlier after i posted realizing i hadn't received an update in some time. It appears to have been removed from the market, odd considering that all his other emulators are still there and one of his main selling points was compliance with the gpl of snes9x (the reason it was free as opposed to his other emulators)
the website is http://www.explusalpha.com/home
Robert Brogalia is the devs name, check out his other apps, they all get fantastic feedback.

Oh my god! This emulator is amazing! Everyone get it. This should just come on the phone..... LOL
Sent from my R800a using xda premium

u can change the dpi of the menus, turn off that shocking linear filtering that snesoid and all them use(i like me some retro blockiness) and it doesnt appear but when scrolling through lists thumb scroll works just fine.

Looks like I have to start over on Zelda, guess the saves are different from snesnoid. So worth it though.
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u just have to change the extention to the same one used in snes9x...if i recall snesoid uses .sav, snes9x uses .sma or something, i got all mine working so if u fiddle u should get it, afaik quicksaves are a no-go however, just the battery backup works.

Snesoid is based on the snes9x source anyway......
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if people are finding solutions that work better for them thats a good thing, i dont care if the source is the same, i find it to be a better emulator. i will say i initially bought all yonghz apps including n64oid.

Goping back on topic i just got myself a Play today, and i have major problems with games on gameboid, genesoid, snesoid theyw ill jump around and skip frames. I know why it's becuase it has frameskip set to 2 by default. If i set it to 0 then the audio produces an annoying stuttering and clicking. I just don't belive this ive seen thousands of videos showing th performance and sound of the games and its perfect. Ive even rooted and stripped my Play of some apps too. Now im really at wits end this thing wont emulate any game perfectly... What can i do????

linkandzelda said:
Goping back on topic i just got myself a Play today, and i have major problems with games on gameboid, genesoid, snesoid theyw ill jump around and skip frames. I know why it's becuase it has frameskip set to 2 by default. If i set it to 0 then the audio produces an annoying stuttering and clicking. I just don't belive this ive seen thousands of videos showing th performance and sound of the games and its perfect. Ive even rooted and stripped my Play of some apps too. Now im really at wits end this thing wont emulate any game perfectly... What can i do????
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Trust me mate, I've tried everything on both of my Xperia Plays. One stock, and one overclocked to 1.6ghx with CyanogenMod 7.
I'm at the same stage... I set games to 0 frameskipping and most games run perfectly, however if I enable the sound I get this horrible crackle (and with TigerMAME 3.0.3 noticable lag spikes - which is a damn shame). I think most of these emus need optimising for Xperia Play.
'Perfect' is such an over-used term these days... However these are the best emus of the bunch in my opinion... Trust me, I'm extremely anal when it comes to emulation.
TigerMAME 3.0.3 - With sound disabled can run games like Gigawing and Mars Matrix perfectly. I really hope the audio can be optimised. I'm currently playing the above two games with my own music playing in the background until then. Also, I believe older versions of Tiger run more games than this release...
MAME4Droid - Good for games which fall under the old MAME romset. Most games run smooth with audio (a lot of older games run perfectly) and the amount of CPU/audio customisation is unrivaled.
SNES9X EX - Runs games perfectly (excluding the Mode-7 heavy titles), with only slight audio crackle... Hoping for this to be resolved soon.
MD.EMU - The best Genesis/Megadrive emu around, same dev as SNES9X EX. Does the job where others fail (ie: near perfect Sonic 3 performance). Some audio problems here also.
GBAoid - Seems to work perfectly with everything I've tried. I need to put more research into GBA emu.

Some Way To Run Hearthstone on Galaxy W

I am trying for 2 days to run Hearthstone : Heroes of Warcraft's Android application on my Galaxy W. I tried that Xposed Installer but i couldn't make it work. It says "Your device does not meet minimun requirements." Can someone show me a way to bypass that requirement part or can i bypass it?

google for guide, link below;
http://venturebeat.com/2014/12/17/how-to-install-hearthstone/
this game require 6inch or larger screen tablet.
watch the youtube videos show how to bypass.
i dun think gw can run this game, you can try.

thank you i will try it
Edit:
It still is not working. It says "Sorry! Hearthstone cannot run on this device as it does not meet the minimum specifications"

definitely cannot play this game on gw.
u need minimum a 7" tablet with quad-core 1~2gb ram 8~16gb storage.
game installation >500mb, gw cant play it with <350mb ram. :silly:

saintsoh said:
definitely cannot play this game on gw.
u need minimum a 7" tablet with quad-core 1~2gb ram 8~16gb storage.
game installation >500mb, gw cant play it with <350mb ram. :silly:
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Maybe >500mb of rom, not ram?
Its very strange, that such a game is very demanding.

there r many cheap tablets on the market tat can run this game.
gw is old, very old, very very old, end-of-life, in other word obsolete.
many cheap china phones are much more powerful than gw.

Shield (hopefully) now compatible with touch apps.

soo ive been crying since day one when i found out i couldnt play NOVA 3 on my newly bought shield, i thought about using a custom firmware but didnt want to lose functionality, i ended up adapting my 4tb hdd as internal memory so once i did that for me there was no goong back lol, so ive been trying to find a way to map controls and thought of everything and nothing seemed to work. sixaxis controller app didnt work when i tried a few times a year back but there has since been an update and now i can map the touch controls for nova and play perfectly so im guessing that opens up a lot more apps and games that require touch we couldnt use before but prob can now. For me this is the best early christmas present i could have asked for. Thought id let you lot know just in case ya didnt.

if you play Modern Combat 5, NOVA 3 or are generally into android online gaming, anything to do with Nvidia Shield, Kodi or Plex - join us https://discord.gg/XsMz44k http://droidshield.boards.net

I use Zulu full Android with game controller2touch it does wonders

Also I noticed we have good fps' for android and most of these games have no chat support which is odd. I play modern combat 5 a lot and have now made a server where we can use any windows, android or iOS device to use voice chat while in game. so download 'discord' free from play store, app store, website etc and join us here. Http://discord.gg/ThWtash. If you want to join our MC5 clan just ask.

Emulators - which one

Been using the command line for just about everything.
I do quite a bit of work as I have 2 rooted boxes and one running the Google Play store (among other things).
What emulator seems to be best - time to move from the CL to a GUI.

Which is best?
Emulators for what? (Command line?) On what Box? You've been using a CLI for everything so far? Like what? You do quite a lot of work? Thats remarkable. Let me congratulate you on that.
If you want recommendations on emulators for old video game systems - ask again, I might provide you with a detailed answer - even though this thread so far seems like it wants to bait information by sounding like you are a techy person yourself (ey, buddy, buddy) although none of the statements above makes much sense.
If I am mistaken and you want recommendations for the best Terminal emulator out there, I don't know. But try "Terminal Emulator" first, because thats usually what everyone uses when it comes to terminal emulators..
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Oh, what the - I have the time, so why not...
If other people read this thread, looking for video game emulator recommendations.
Retroarch for everything thats not CPU intensive to emulate. Because it is a one stop setup solution for many (most) systems. Also it has the only implementation of ScummVM thats actually usable with a controller. (If you use scummvm - swapping to the new GUI theme (you have to find it as a zip file on the web) is much easier on the eyes, just fyi)
I use version 1.3.0 - because newer versions produced slowdowns on PCSX Rearmed. Havent tested the most recent builds though.
If you are on a Fire TV Stick, use either Snes9xEX version 1.5.1. or 1.5.27 (I think I stuck to 1.5.1) for SNES games as using other emulators/builds might result in performance issues http://www.explusalpha.com/home/snes9x-ex/downloads
If you are on a Fire TV 2 (as supposed to a Fire TV Stick, havent tested the Fire TV 1):
For most PSX games use ePSXe, most recent version.
For PSP Games use PPSSPP, most recent version.
For DS Emulation use DraStic (hard to set up, because its a paid emu, and Play Store licensing doesn't work in this case - had to resort to illicit means to get it working)
For Dreamcast emulation, use reicast (most recent beta build ( http://builds.reicast.com/ ), but it also depends on the game).
For N64 emulation use Mupen64Plus FZ Edition - its by far the best one. Most recent build should be fine as well.
Dolphin is a non starter on the AFTV2.
As for PPSSPP and ePSXe, learn what the settings do - which setting enables hardware acceleration, which setting disables certain effects - it usually is the difference between a game being perfectly playable or dropping frames. Don't resort to Youtube tutorials. Read up on the settings instead.

Result:
http://imgbox.com/g/hcG8Ulv2QY
You can use the n and b keys on your keyboard to navigate forwards and backwards in the single image view.
edit: Also - consider buying a Xiaomi Game Controller, because it is cheap and has a great digipad. To get the best results out of this controller, be rooted and change line 42 in the Vendor_2836_Product_0001.kl file in /system/usr/keylayout/ from
key 0x13f HOME ALT #Long Press
to
key 0x13f BUTTON_START #Long Press
Otherwise, you will end up in the Amazon launcher in a few emulators that don't prevent this from happening. (It prevents this isue: https://www.reddit.com/r/fireTV/comments/5d9ptb/amazon_fire_tv_box_xbox_360_dongle_issues/ - but understand, that there are different kl files you have to edit for different controllers)
If you have issues with the controller going to sleep and then refusing to reconnect within an emulator - use a rubber band to pin the right stick to a tilt. Most games you emulate won't use the right stick, and this prevents the controller from turning off.
Not sure, if it helps in every case, but also google for
Bluetooth Auto Connect lag
and read up on how to potentially minimize the input lag from a Bluetooth controller using the Bluetooth Auto Connect app. Understand that in more recent versions the layout of the app has changed.

Also - just FYI, all the games you see in the images above are perfectly playable - for the beat em ups this means no framedrops whatsoever, on the other games - if there are framedrops, I havent noticed them.
The only exception is Tekken 3 running with upscaling on ePSXe. If you use Retroarch and PCSX Rearmed to emulate it (even with scanlines ) it runs frame perfect. (on Retroarch 1.3.0 that is - I just checked it out with 1.3.6 on a much beefier Android device, and it still drops frames - although the textures look better. If you wan't better playability, stick to 1.3.0) Tekken 6 also runs without dropping frames, even with some upscaling, although you have to disable graphical effects, or you will get noticable drops. All other PSP games I tested play perfectly fine with effects enabled. All Dreamcast games I tested also run without dropping frames.

Gaming/Emulating games on the 8 Pro, what's possible?

Happy new year all.
Just thinking of flashing a new ROM and was contemplating what could be possible on current hardware.
The last time I ran a test from top to bottom I hit the ceiling at ps2 emulation but that was dodgy
Anyway, I personally haven't used any of the new emulators for a while so wondered what is currently possible? What have you used? What worked? Or was good?
I know in theory 90% of Wii games should work and everything underneath it, so GameCube, PSP, PSX, N64, Dreamcast, Saturn, 32x, jaguar, arcade, mega drive, SNES, Neogeo.
Any info, ideas, cool stuff,

IMO it all depends on the game.
I play NSMB Wii through dolphin and that works great. But as an example, I can't get Rogue Leader on GC to play on anything except a good GPU on a PC. The Hoth level brings everything to it's knee's and OP8P is no exception.
AetherSX2 is great for PS2 emulation and with a few tweaks seems to play everything very well. I tried shadow of the collosus and Black and both were very playable. Check youtube for how to tweak.
But yea, everything below that seems to work great. Dreamcast, PSP, PS1, Mame. I even managed to get Killer Instinct arcade working throuh retroarch and that worked very well.
You can also play packages for Doom 3 and OG Half Life as well as HL2 and Portal with hacky APK's.

d3viou5 said:
IMO it all depends on the game.
I play NSMB Wii through dolphin and that works great. But as an example, I can't get Rogue Leader on GC to play on anything except a good GPU on a PC. The Hoth level brings everything to it's knee's and OP8P is no exception.
AetherSX2 is great for PS2 emulation and with a few tweaks seems to play everything very well. I tried shadow of the collosus and Black and both were very playable. Check youtube for how to tweak.
But yea, everything below that seems to work great. Dreamcast, PSP, PS1, Mame. I even managed to get Killer Instinct arcade working throuh retroarch and that worked very well.
You can also play packages for Doom 3 and OG Half Life as well as HL2 and Portal with hacky APK's.
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What's NSMB?
Shadow of the colossus? If that's working then that's really really impressive, that absolutely pushed the ps2 to the limit, the use of fog to keep graphics in memory was genius for it's time and to manage to keep the frames up on ps2 hardware.
Cheers will have a look at that ps2 emulator, nice one.
PS:. I've got a guide on how to run PC games with native files

One of the things i've been using for gaming has been this app https://parsec.app/
Pop it on a PC you game on then log in, change some settings then leave that PC alone.
On a second device, android / mac / or other windows device, download the app from the link and install it.
Log in and you can then control the PC you installed it on in the first place, i have to say that the speed of input is really really good, i was massively impressed by the responsiveness and ability to play through games with minimal setup required.
Few things to change.
Set resolution to 1920x1080
Change network to latency / performance
Change network allowed to max / 50Mb
Renderer - DX11
That should work as expected.

I played some PS2 games on my Huawei P30 Pro already.
For the nature of emulation, not every game works. But everything below PS2 and below WII U is probably very enjoyable. Most emulators are open source and are ported to android anyway.
I would say God of War from PS2 is playable on the 8 Pro.

dladz said:
What's NSMB?
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New Super Mario Bros.... Not particularly taxing game.....

dladz said:
Happy new year all.
Just thinking of flashing a new ROM and was contemplating what could be possible on current hardware.
The last time I ran a test from top to bottom I hit the ceiling at ps2 emulation but that was dodgy
Anyway, I personally haven't used any of the new emulators for a while so wondered what is currently possible? What have you used? What worked? Or was good?
I know in theory 90% of Wii games should work and everything underneath it, so GameCube, PSP, PSX, N64, Dreamcast, Saturn, 32x, jaguar, arcade, mega drive, SNES, Neogeo.
Any info, ideas, cool stuff,
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AetherSX2 Compatibility List - Unofficial
Rules & Guidelines READ THESE Do not add any unrelated materials or delete other users' enteries Follow the template and add all data you can about it. Settings and all help, but please list your fps, device, and version Please keep in mind that the Master List is alphabetical and all enteries s...
docs.google.com
I keep a personal tab for AetherSX2
A demo i did back then
You can find the videos i recorded in AetherSX2's official telegram group

gsser said:
AetherSX2 Compatibility List - Unofficial
Rules & Guidelines READ THESE Do not add any unrelated materials or delete other users' enteries Follow the template and add all data you can about it. Settings and all help, but please list your fps, device, and version Please keep in mind that the Master List is alphabetical and all enteries s...
docs.google.com
I keep a personal tab for AetherSX2
A demo i did back then
You can find the videos i recorded in AetherSX2's official telegram group
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Aye I've just installed it. Runs fine, black and Tiger woods 6