Develop Bugs

[Q] Titanium Backup says no root

So I unlocked, rooted and flashed 4.0.4 last night (for the first time) and I installed Titanium Backup, but it says that it doesnt have root access, is it possible that I could have unlocked and flashed without rooting properly? I have the SuperUser app installed but no apps show in the list....

dsuppa said:
So I unlocked, rooted and flashed 4.0.4 last night (for the first time) and I installed Titanium Backup, but it says that it doesnt have root access, is it possible that I could have unlocked and flashed without rooting properly? I have the SuperUser app installed but no apps show in the list....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
YOU LOST ROOT WHEN YOU WENT UP TO IT
HAPPENED TO ME TOO. I WAS FLUSTERED FOR A FEW DAYS BECAUSE MY SWISS ARMY KNIFE TOOL WASNT READY FOR RE ROOTING 4.0.4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1400871
THATLL HELP YOU QUICKLY GET ROOT BACK FOR 4.0.4 IN UNDER 5 MINS...

Try force stopping TiBU and then open it again; sometimes it gets confused.

thanks i'll have to give that a try when I get home, this isnt what I originally used to root/unlock is that ok? I used this one

Sorry for the caps. Left a website where I always post with em on
But easiest way to know you lost root is to try and update superuser. If it says failed...

mudferret said:
Try force stopping TiBU and then open it again; sometimes it gets confused.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope, seems I no longer have root access, I downloaded root checker from the app store and it says no root access on the phone.

dsuppa said:
Nope, seems I no longer have root access, I downloaded root checker from the app store and it says no root access on the phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Every OTA update disables root access. You need to re-root after every OTA update...

[Q] android pay working for anyone?

I am running on stock rooted OF8 and can't seem to run android pay. Setting it up it says that it can't determine if it is compatible. Google wallet did work before. Anyone else run into this?

Apparently it doesn't work on rooted phones. Read some where that you can activate it and then root afterwards but haven't tried it yet.
Sent from my SM-G928T using Tapatalk

works for me non root for now

Were i can find android pay ?

It worked for me non rooted at a vending machine. Though rooted or not at Maverick and Smiths, (3 times total) it has caused my phone to freeze after I verify my pattern lock.
Anyone having that issue?

Haven't been even able to set it up. Rooted on OF8. I'm going to flash the new build tonight and see if I can get it working before I root again and see what happens.

Use an app like RootCloak or HideMyRoot. Once you hide root you can add your cards with no problems. Using it to pay you will need to hide root again.... way too many steps for it to be convenient for me.

shoresteve626 said:
Use an app like RootCloak or HideMyRoot. Once you hide root you can add your cards with no problems. Using it to pay you will need to hide root again.... way too many steps for it to be convenient for me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Where can I get a working version of either of those apps? All the ones I found doing a Google search are outdated and people say they don't work anymore.

I use Hide My Root from the PlayStore. It worked for what i needed but you cant use it for individual apps like RootCloak can. I'm odexed and can't get RootCloak going.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.amphoras.hidemyroot

Worked for me today at mcdonalds i unrooted so i can update to get samsung pay.

I take it your Knox wasn't tripped with your root?

M9x3mos said:
I take it your Knox wasn't tripped with your root?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No

FULLY unroot

Hi,
Does anyone know if this phone can be fully UN-rooted so apps like Barclays Bank app and Pingit can work on it?
Supersu unroot doesn't work nor do Hide Root stuff.
Mine was pre-loaded with Eragon ROM by the Ebayer who I got it from which in general was a good thing.
In the meantime, I've put it back to stock.
Can anyone install Pingit app on this phone? (you don't need a Barclays account or anything... just try and install it and it detects root).
Thanks.

Hmm no replies to this one.
OK, can someone confirm to me whether the P8000 is FULLY unrooted when it's new? The hardware is great so I'm thinking of getting the Vowney but not if Elephone mobiles are rooted from the start.
I know it's all about rooting and putting custom ROMs but it's annoying when some apps you NEED (like banking) won't run on them.
Can someone who hasn't done anything to their P8000 check for me please? Just download the Barclays Pingit app and try to install it. If it installs, it's fully unrooted.
Thanks.

You can install the Stock Firmware with so Flashtool soul be unrooted then
Gesendet von meinem Elephone P8000 mit Tapatalk

Certainly with my P8000 and many others from comments in this forum, the phone came with some of the necessary root files/binaries installed. To root all that was necessary for me was to install SuperSU from the Play store.
Sent from my U65GT using Tapatalk

MikeJT said:
Certainly with my P8000 and many others from comments in this forum, the phone came with some of the necessary root files/binaries installed. To root all that was necessary for me was to install SuperSU from the Play store.
Sent from my U65GT using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, my hope is to fully UN-root the phone (so it's NOT rooted). There are certain apps like Barclays Banking and Pingit apps that won't install if it even sniffs that it's been rooted.
So, the guy I got the phone from put Eragon OS on it for me. So it must have got rooted then.
I've flashed it myself following the instructions on the official Elephone site using the Flashtool and put the latest Stock Rom on (complete with malware!) but it is still classified as ROOTED.
Root Checker says: Root access is not properly installed on this device.
My other phone (LG G Flex 2) is DEFINITELY not rooted and it comes up with the same 'not properly installed' as well but is ok with Barclays apps.
If I flashed the stock back on, should I theoretically be fully unrooted (obviously not...). What do I need to do to FULLY unroot it please?

MrBoingy said:
Yeah, my hope is to fully UN-root the phone (so it's NOT rooted). There are certain apps like Barclays Banking and Pingit apps that won't install if it even sniffs that it's been rooted.
So, the guy I got the phone from put Eragon OS on it for me. So it must have got rooted then.
I've flashed it myself following the instructions on the official Elephone site using the Flashtool and put the latest Stock Rom on (complete with malware!) but it is still classified as ROOTED.
Root Checker says: Root access is not properly installed on this device.
My other phone (LG G Flex 2) is DEFINITELY not rooted and it comes up with the same 'not properly installed' as well but is ok with Barclays apps.
If I flashed the stock back on, should I theoretically be fully unrooted (obviously not...). What do I need to do to FULLY unroot it please?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you have SuperSU installed?

bjbirch said:
Do you have SuperSU installed?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope, I've literally just flashed it with the latest stock ROM (20151105). No virus in this one!
Barclays apps still think it's rooted.
Sorry for asking noob questions but Root doesn't survive Flashing does it?

Try checking with root checker app from playstore

Yeah I said in the previous post:
Root Checker says the same on my definitely UNROOTED LG G FLex 2 and on my Stock Rom P8000 which I've just flashed.
Root access is not properly installed on this device.
Barclays Bank app works fine on my Flex but root is detected on the P8000 saying it's rooted.
So is it possible to TOTALLY UN-ROOT the phone? UN-ROOT. Not Root. UN-ROOT.

Download es file manager ,go to system check sbin,xbin and bin folders for su files and delete them if you find any

bjbirch said:
Download es file manager ,go to system check sbin,xbin and bin folders for su files and delete them if you find any
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Interesting...
So, for example, in the xbin folder I have:
sugote
sugote-mksh
supolicy
daemonsu
BIN folder has:
superumount
There's no sbin folder.
You mean I should delete ANYTHING that has the letters SU in those folders?
When the P8000 is flashed with the stock rom using the FlashTool, what does it do? Does it blat EVERYTHING on the phone or does it leave something somewhere to indicate it's been rooted before?
If it does wipe EVERYTHING and it sets the phone back to how it would be when it's shipped from Elephone, it does indicate that there is some sort of ROOT (files or whatever) to make some apps complain.
Surely there is SOMEONE here who can tell me whether their P8000 is FULLY UNROOTED or not (by trying to install the Pingit app).
I'm almost a fan of buying these generic, no brand China phones cos they're ridiculously cheap and fast but if they're pre-rooted (in some form), they're not much use since you can't run certain apps on them (especially if no-one knows how to UNROOT them). The Elephone Vowney looks so desirable!

Go to system>xbin and see if su file is on your phone and try deleting just the file with the name su and no other files

Nope, no file called SU in there.
So, my question now is:
Eragon ROM WAS put on this phone.
I've now flashed it with stock ROM.
Should it now be UN-rooted? Or at least, as much as it was when it leaves the factory? (obviously it's not EXACTLY the same because the Stock ROM I flashed is much newer).
OR, are Elephone ALWAYS rooted (either half or fully... enough to trip up certain apps)?
I know that if you get phones like OnePlus One, which had a 'custom' ROM (CM), it was still fully un-rooted (ie you can use banking apps on it).

try simply unroot app
It always works for me
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.pinpong.simplyunroot

Hehe I'm interested to see what happens here.
Root Checker says it's unrooted (or it says it's not properly rooted - which isn't necessarily the same.. although that's what it says on my Flex 2 which is DEFINITELY not rooted).
Barclays bank app says it's rooted.
I need to root the device to use the Simply Unroot app.
What are the chances this is going to work..... I know it's only £0.68 but.....
I'll give it a go when I get home!
Thanks.

Nope, Simply Unroot didn't work although I didn't have much hope.
What's the explanation for this kind of thing... where it's flashed with stock rom and apps can tell it's rooted (even Root Checker says it's unrooted).

Try downloading titanium backup from play store and opening it

bjbirch said:
Try downloading titanium backup from play store and opening it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
By the way, the guy who sells Simply Unroot is VERY VERY VERY helpful.
Really nice guy.
He spent a lot of time trying to sort this out for me. In the end, we were unable to get Barclays app to run.
Root Checker and Simply Unroot both thought the phone was unrooted but Barclays apps thinks it is rooted.
Anyway, the point is, even after all his help, he gave me a refund.
5 stars for the developer for his support!

Sounds like a problem with the Barclay's app

bjbirch said:
Sounds like a problem with the Barclay's app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
MrBoingy said:
By the way, the guy who sells Simply Unroot is VERY VERY VERY helpful.
Really nice guy.
He spent a lot of time trying to sort this out for me. In the end, we were unable to get Barclays app to run.
Root Checker and Simply Unroot both thought the phone was unrooted but Barclays apps thinks it is rooted.
Anyway, the point is, even after all his help, he gave me a refund.
5 stars for the developer for his support!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i will make an unroot flashable zip soon .
after barclays app and other bank apps will work
-i will inform you here , when it is ready-

Switch between Root and Unroot?

This maybe the stupidest question Ive ever asked. Can I continually switch between my currently rooted and an unrooted version of the device by simply uninstalling the super SU app?
The reason is this : I need to install BES 12 on my phone and for some reason RootCloack doesn't seem to work and the app still won't register. Is there anyway I can switch between Root and Unroot in that sense?

TarunN5 said:
This maybe the stupidest question Ive ever asked. Can I continually switch between my currently rooted and an unrooted version of the device by simply uninstalling the super SU app?
The reason is this : I need to install BES 12 on my phone and for some reason RootCloack doesn't seem to work and the app still won't register. Is there anyway I can switch between Root and Unroot in that sense?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Have you tried suhide by @Chainfire?

Hw4ng3r said:
Have you tried suhide by @Chainfire?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope, didn't know about that.. Wil give it shot today

Or Magisk which is hiding quite good

Tried both of them, none of them are working with BES 12

Google Pay isn't working on stock firmware

Hello everyone.
I have really tried to find an answer to my question but I failed. If anyone can help me or just give me a hint where to look I will be very thankful.
My problem is that some time ago I have decided to try and install LineageOS on my G960F/DS. Everything went fine, but after few days I wanted to go back to a stock firmware.
I have downloaded a stock firmware, reflashed with Odin, did all the wipes and stuff and my phone works fine (then I realized that S9 has this shi*ty eFuse, but let's forget it now).
Still I am not able to activate my Google Pay. Everytime I try to activate my bank card I get a message
Your phone may be rooted or modified in some different way.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I know there is a thong called Magisk Hide, but as far as I know it is not working.
Is there any way to get Google Pay to work?

Magisk hide works on my rooted device.

basicreece said:
Magisk hide works on my rooted device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As far as I know it will not: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9/how-to/root-galaxy-s9-s9-official-stock-8-0-t3843098

Polarkreis said:
As far as I know it will not: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9/how-to/root-galaxy-s9-s9-official-stock-8-0-t3843098
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Literally just used Google pay, like 2 minutes ago. I'm rooted using magiskhide.

This actually has happened to me also after the last update. I use Google Pay all the time and now it says I'm rooted. I'm not rooted because I have a ATT S9.