[Q] Battery management - Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I love this phone and I thought the battery was pretty decent for a smartphone. I was getting roughly 12 hours of charge on a normal work day and I'm a pretty heavy user. That was until a buddy told me about Juice Defender. I installed the free version and used the "Balanced" profile. The phone was charged fully and I went about my normal weekday. Wow! 25 hours and 18 minutes later I resorted to connecting to a charger! This is my first Android phone so I'm not very familiar with all the hacks and mods out there (I'm still trying to get my nerve up to try rooting). But, I must say I'm impressed. Are there any better battery manager apps out there, is this the best, or are they all basically the same?

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Desire battery life

Any pointers for increasing battery life? I've disabled live wallpapers, picked a dark background, set friendfeed etc to update every 4 hours, and it's still not great. Phone is new, should I expect battery life to improve as battery gets used a bit?
Are task killers worth using? Seems to be some debate that they might actually cause more problems than they solve.
I've gone through forum and found lots of generic advice but would appreciate any ideas people have tried on the Desire.
Do I *really* need to wturn off wifi when I'm not using it? Isn't the phone smart enough to not use it when a known-network isn't present?
Cheers
From my experience i would advise against having a task killer running.
I used to have one running on my N1 and thought, "Great, i can free up memory". But you really don't need to do that with Android.
Having disabled it from running, I get to teh end of the day and I have between 75 and 85 battery, after having done a fair few phone calls, some net fun and data access.
I still have a task killer but I use it infrequently and dont have it running - i let it "kill" itself after running it.
I found they take up a good deal of battery life. But that's just my opinion.
isaw said:
From my experience i would advise against having a task killer running.
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Of course!
The classic task killers kill services that are sleeping and do no eat battery.
A few minuts later, on some receivers ( connexion to internet, message or SMS received) these services will restart, and that's where they are eating battery.
If you hadn't killed them, they would have done that without eating battery.
Waking up and then going to sleep is really less battery-eater than restarting the whole service.
So, please forget about all these task killers or do that in a smart way. Only kill your game or the latest app you used!
Battery life will improve over the first weeks use. Needs a few charge cycles to achieve full capacity.
Although the battery life might not be as good as some other "imore ipopular" handsets at least you can buy a second reasonably cheap battery if you know you will be a couple of days away from a possible charge (camping etc).
zzleezz said:
Battery life will improve over the first weeks use. Needs a few charge cycles to achieve full capacity.
Although the battery life might not be as good as some other "imore ipopular" handsets at least you can buy a second reasonably cheap battery if you know you will be a couple of days away from a possible charge (camping etc).
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You serious? I am guessing you're referring to the iPhone, the smartphone that is on charge more times than its off charge?
My Desire hands down beats an iPhone for battery life by almost 100% - only ever got 1 day of an iPhone at best - Desire is approaching nearly 2 days full usage, I am no lite user either.
For battery life the Desire is one, if not the best out there at the moment.
thank christ for that, i presume it improves after a couple of charges. mine was new on friday and the battery's pretty uninspiring so far...
landwomble said:
thank christ for that, i presume it improves after a couple of charges. mine was new on friday and the battery's pretty uninspiring so far...
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My Desire has been up for 21.5 hours and has 3 bars left (according to the settings battery meter) but I've been driving around most of the day with spotify on listening to music, quite a bit of surfing, emailing, calls and a few texts.
I reckon it's probably got another 5+ hours to go yet.
My phone is quite new and battery life is starting to improve daily now.
Hmm... struggle to get more than 5 or 6 hours out if mine under relatively light usage, maybe 20 mins calls and 3 or 4 texts, if I use browser it flatten quicker still, the battery use status usually says Android OS itself has used most battery.
Hoping it will improve, at moment it is poor compared to my TD2 with a smaller battery
P.
had mine about 6 days and my battery is ver poor at the moment. however i remember thinking that about the G1 at first and it got better.
still was luck to get a full day from it. however i went to europe the other week (from uk) so turned all roaming data and syncing off and it lasted 4 days.
fingures crossed battery life increases on the desire, gor a car charger on orded fron fleabay so i should survive
i loved my G1, and found it hard to upgrade, first time thats ever happend, but wow this desire is differnt class, my wife has the iphone and is green and my 16 year old son is gutted he got the hero only 6 months ago.
Re: desire battery life
I've been running my desire for nearly two weeks now.
As usual WiFi & gps are the main culprits.
On average, I have exchange & GMAIL push on 3G all day with a bit of Facebook, sms & several min long calls without going past the three quarter mark by 5:30pm . However as soon as I switch on WiFi at home for browsing, reading news feeds, market etc, bang goes my battery!
Turn off 3G and sync and use it as a phone.......great battery life!
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Yea not sure how you guys get good battery out of it. I have everything off, dark background, no synching due to having mobile network off (only thing setup to sync is email every 2 hours). I take a few phone calls maybe 30-40mins, do about 15 mins of surfing, 30 mins of music through headphones at low volume, and a game for 30 mins. That pretty much concludes my battery life for the day (is usually at around 20% left by the time I get home).
I find if I browse the market and download/install apps, my battery will go down very quickly.
Got my desire for a week now and it lasts me 2 days woth some movies, wifi and messaging. if i go even lighter, only messaging and calls it lasted me almost 4 days. it has great battery in my opinion, better than my old hd2 and even better then my old old diamond
Over in General we found an issue with the calendar app keeping the phone from going into sleep mode - That could be a cause for poor battery life.
The thread is here (remove spaces please):
h ttp:// f orum. xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=666404
My Desire have no problem on battery so far tho, 1½ day with normal use is no problem. litle use i can use it around 2 days, but with alot off things running i would say for sure it works over a full working day.
Mine has been running for 20 hours now, I have mainly been calling, texting, surfing the net (mainly facebook), and playing a game a couple of times.
I'm not really sure whether this is good or not, I would rather it lasted longer than this, as it is due for a charge within the next few hours, and this is a bit of an awkward time to need to charge it. If I wasn't off work today I'd have a dead phone before I got home.
I don't like to charge mine before it tells me too, I like to think it'll improve the battery life over time? Is this right?
those batteries are not affected by memory effect. charging everytime you can is better than drain battery to 0%
HTC have said there is a software issue with battery levels hench the charging issues. Fix in the future they suggested.
Weather this effects the actual life of battery not sure.
I have just come from the HD2
At the beginning, everyone agreed that the battery life was god awful, and a month or so in everyone reported that the battery life was outstanding!
I can confirm this, to start with it wouldnt last me a day, by the end of it i could leave 3g and wifi on all day with everything running in the background and get a good 2 full days out of it!
I just received the desire yesterday, i gave it a full overnight charge and i must report that for the first charge the battery life looks very promising
I have used the phone VERY heavily even for me with about 100 texts, an hour talking, an hour on the internet and syncing every 15 mins or so and i have 2 bars of battery left, and i said, the battery is only going to get better!
You should look at power management tips for the HD2 as most of them apply, for example disabling 'automatic backlght' and setting it yourself because that alone can add about 30% to your battery life.
currently at 2 days 15 hours with 6/10 battery bars left.
i have gps/wifi/internet disabled and turn them on with the settings widgets when i want to use them. screen brightness at about 20%
the battery is great IMO
Guys could u please tell if I should when receiving my phone charge it directly (full charge) or it's better to empty it completely and then charge it ?
Thanx

Battery running super hot

I know that everyone has problems with the battery but I've never seen anything like this. I used to barely be able to squeeze 8 hours out of it but it keeps getting worse. The battery is always really hot, running at around 40 degrees celsius and depletes itself pretty rapidly. I've been off the charger for 2 and a half hours and I'm already down to 48%. Has anyone else seen this or had it this bad? I've searched the forums here and at PPC Geeks but to no avail. I'm running Fresh ROM 0.3.x. I haven't had time to update but it's on the to-do list for today. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
And it's dead. 4 and a half hours. PoS.
I am too getting these results. I think it is fresh rom because im running it too.
Try Damage Control. Battery life is pretty good. Set profile in Dconfig to battery saver. Even overclocked battery is pretty good. No matter what though, if you're power using the phone (games,internet,etc) its usually only gonna last a few hours. Task managers help also.
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I've got ATK killing apps every half hour and today I barely used the thing. I didn't get a call, not one text, and maybe only used the Engadget app a couple of times.
Mine was a little warm when I first got it (power using while playing!); I took it to Sprint techs and they investigated. Mine was normal due to high use, but there WAS a known issue with some bad batteries, and they were ready to jump in and replace mine if it had shown those symptoms.
Now rooted, running DC ROM on mixed battery savings/performance profile...perfect. No issues. At least 18 hrs per charge with fairly heavy phone use.
what were the "symptoms"? i would like to know...
Try clearing your battery stats. I had the same problem(crazy warm battery and really bad battery life)
I did it through the recovery(clockworkmod) go to advanced then wipe battery stats. theres other ways to do it too just search around here and you'll find them.
I installed the latest Fresh ROM last night and it seems to be working great now. We'll see as time goes on.

[Q] Battery Question..looses 18% in 46mins?!

Hey all,
I am a new owner of a HTC Desire, have used this amazing device for about 2 weeks now. All is well, except for.... the battery life.
Here is my scenario, tell me if this is the "norm":
Unplugged from wall charger at 8:30am, by 9:16am (total unplugged time of 46mins), I had used 18% of the battery.
I had a 7min voice call, afterward a 2min video recording. While on the voice call, I had it paired to my bluetooth headset (Plantronics).
Power left in the battery: 82% (4021mV, 30.0 degrees celcius)
All the standard items loaded as part of the Android OS. I have no data plan yet, so 3G was off, WIFI was off, GPS was off as well. Lastly, brightness was set at 40%.
Is this normal? to loose 18% of my battery within that timeframe and also with the type of usage I went through?
Thanks or any response..!
It could be because your screen was on? If your battery is still bad after 2 weeks try to get a replacement.
I have learned to just accept losing 1% in 1min under heavy use.
I reckon I could empty the battery in an hour and a half with the right conditions. It just sucks, start carrying your usb cable round with you and keep an eye out for USB ports you can nick some juice from. If your lucky you'll get through the day with charge left and not lose your data cable (I'm on my fourth).
Some people claim to get several days use out of their desire. They must have a pact with the devil or something because the best I have ever seen is a day and a half.
This is the common issue for new Desire users, so don't worry its normal what you are facing..!!
-Trust me when i bought my desire i freaked out after heavy use the battery wouldn't even lost for 6-7 hrs..!!
-I had never got one full day out of my desire..!!
-So i did some serious research on this issue and came out with some Awesome solution..!!
-i have written the solution in my blog here:
http://harishanswers.blogspot.com/2010/09/disappointed-about-battery-life-of-your.html
-After reading that post ,follow the instruction that i have given at the last.
i hope you got the solution for your problem
- OpenDesire by AdamG
- SetCPU: (Max 1036800, Min: 245000) Interactive scaling.
Not using the phone, while in standby it lasts basically forever. The longest I've gone without recharging is two days, light/none use.
When I finally recharged it the phone claimed to have about 60-70 % of juice left. Making a phone call would probably leave the battery with 40 %, LOL
Normal use gets me through the day with about 30 % battery at the end of the day. Ca 12-16 normal use.
Hard usage, my phone holds up about 6-7 hours time. When I say hard use, it's constant use.
Thanks for the replies everyone.
My situation hasn't really improved, even with a "app Killer" added to the equation.
like mercianary mentioned, I have been carrying my adaptor and USB cable where ever I go! Not the best method.
I am thinking of buying one of these to carry around..
http://www.lifetrons.ch/EN/Products/Products-LT035E1.htm
maxima0002 said:
Thanks for the replies everyone.
My situation hasn't really improved, even with a "app Killer" added to the equation.
like mercianary mentioned, I have been carrying my adaptor and USB cable where ever I go! Not the best method.
I am thinking of buying one of these to carry around..
http://www.lifetrons.ch/EN/Products/Products-LT035E1.htm
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Try using JuiceDefender. Should boost your battery.
Those tasks are close to the heaviest usage possible so nothing unexpected for a completely stock device. Battery drain is always subject to usage.
Albeit 18% sounds a tad high to me.
Did you verify you were starting at 100% and it didn't drop to 90% within seconds even with no such use (like experienced by many)?
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How many have Battery life thats shortened since Day1?

Mine has. Sure I have a custom Rom (wanam )but I've gone from averaging 12hours first month to about 8-9 now.
How bout you all?
You've probably installed something that's chewing battery up
Yep I still get 19 hours with 6 screen on time
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I don't get 6 hours of screen time, but I do always get between 4-5 (since day 1) and that's with all the IM apps I have (everything I do is over the radio).
I did notice that the first day I didn't have anything installed I was going to get crazy hours! Because everything I did was in the menu, play around with options, etc etc.
But after installing ALL my apps, my battery life has settled down on with WIFI & 3G on most of the day, and tons of instant messaging over various apps between 4-5 hours of screen time average.
It depends on your apps and what's going on with your phone. Your phone should get about 500 charges before getting to 80% charge capacity. The phone hasn't been out that long to get to 90%!
I'd suggest looking at your apps (not the battery consumption list, because it could be a combo of TONS of apps that do very little and don't show up on your battery list).
Download "Carat" from the play store, run it and give it a few hours to a day. It'll tell you exactly what's going on.
Greetings,
Mine got better after updated to official 4.1.2 ( Poland version ).
I am very satisfied with battery life .
Vatis
If anything mine has gotten better as I've weeded out the apps that were keeping it awake. Easily going from 6 am to 10 pm, 5+ hours of screen time, and still have 30-40% battery left.
i got 23h total on with almost 9 hours screen on, this was on heavy usage although with powersaver on, lowest brightness and most of my work involved the screen being aorund 60% black so it helped a lot

Current battery life?

What kind of battery life is everyone getting now that they've had the phone for a while? I'm down to having to charge the phone twice a day, with less than 2 hours of screen time usually. I'm at 8 hours total, 1 hrs 50 minutes screen time, and down to 25% as I write this. I feel like I got more than twice that when I got this phone 4 months ago. Latest update to MM hasn't made any difference besides it blaming all battery life on screen instead of android system. Total time is almost identical though.
After upgrade to MM my battery is the worst it has ever been. Down to 10% in 10hr with 1hr screen time , this is sick.
Really mine gives me a whole day with heavy use
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Two days for me, on a single full charge. Loving MM.
I just did another factory reset. Going to test it today, but the battery life combined with WiFi issues may just make me do an early upgrade to the 7. I couldn't get two days on this phone even if the screen never came on.
What the hell are u guys running in the background, sheesh. Less than 2hrs SOT is crap. Im at 4:40hrs SOT and currently at 30% battery
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Hail2theskins said:
I just did another factory reset. Going to test it today, but the battery life combined with WiFi issues may just make me do an early upgrade to the 7. I couldn't get two days on this phone even if the screen never came on.
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That is exactly what these manufacturers and carriers want us to do. Make us wait for a major upgrade, then release a new model phone, then finally upgrade last years flagship but release it with bugs to encourage us to buy the newer model. My .02
My Edge + is currently Stock running MM 6.0.1
(Have a 2nd Edge Plus for rooting and tinkering) heh
I can get 4-5 Screen On time and get around 17-20 hours battery Life.
I'm satisfied with it as I'm a power house user and my Phone is just packed with loads of games and time-wasting apps that take up a lot of cpu power
3 hrs SOT Average. Normal to heavy use. Voice calls with VoLTE on eats more battery than screen! But again, I get good network coverage with VoLTE on. It's a tradeoff!
After 3 resets marshmallow now gives me about 3 hours screen time over a 10-12 hour period, much better. I'll stick with the phone for now!
Two days of light use. All excess garbage like NFC and beaming services turned off or frozen/uninstalled, bloatware frozen or removed with titanium, force doze app (which is awesome).

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