Battery running super hot - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I know that everyone has problems with the battery but I've never seen anything like this. I used to barely be able to squeeze 8 hours out of it but it keeps getting worse. The battery is always really hot, running at around 40 degrees celsius and depletes itself pretty rapidly. I've been off the charger for 2 and a half hours and I'm already down to 48%. Has anyone else seen this or had it this bad? I've searched the forums here and at PPC Geeks but to no avail. I'm running Fresh ROM 0.3.x. I haven't had time to update but it's on the to-do list for today. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

And it's dead. 4 and a half hours. PoS.

I am too getting these results. I think it is fresh rom because im running it too.

Try Damage Control. Battery life is pretty good. Set profile in Dconfig to battery saver. Even overclocked battery is pretty good. No matter what though, if you're power using the phone (games,internet,etc) its usually only gonna last a few hours. Task managers help also.
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I've got ATK killing apps every half hour and today I barely used the thing. I didn't get a call, not one text, and maybe only used the Engadget app a couple of times.

Mine was a little warm when I first got it (power using while playing!); I took it to Sprint techs and they investigated. Mine was normal due to high use, but there WAS a known issue with some bad batteries, and they were ready to jump in and replace mine if it had shown those symptoms.
Now rooted, running DC ROM on mixed battery savings/performance profile...perfect. No issues. At least 18 hrs per charge with fairly heavy phone use.

what were the "symptoms"? i would like to know...

Try clearing your battery stats. I had the same problem(crazy warm battery and really bad battery life)
I did it through the recovery(clockworkmod) go to advanced then wipe battery stats. theres other ways to do it too just search around here and you'll find them.

I installed the latest Fresh ROM last night and it seems to be working great now. We'll see as time goes on.

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[Q] How did this happen? (RE: battery life)

I'm running CM 7.0.2 with the Tiamat 3.3.5 (No SBC) kernel. Flashed the kernel after booting the ROM after the flash and my battery over the past three charges are as follows:
1st charge: 1 day, 7 hours till 5%
2nd charge: 1 day, 6 hours till 7%
3rd charge: 14 hours till 20%
I don't know what could have caused such a drastic change! Any clues? (Checked partial wake lock and nothing is doing anything unusual and I haven't added any apps anyway.) Furthermore, used my phone about the same all three charges.
Are you complaining about that battery life? One day and seven hours? Did I read that right or am I missing something?
plainjane said:
Are you complaining about that battery life? One day and seven hours? Did I read that right or am I missing something?
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He was wondering why the first and second day yielded over 1 day, and the 3rd day was less than half of that. There are a ton of variables in that situation though, so its hard to say. Maybe a rogue app or bad signal or something like that.
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k2buckley said:
He was wondering why the first and second day yielded over 1 day, and the 3rd day was less than half of that. There are a ton of variables in that situation though, so its hard to say. Maybe a rogue app or bad signal or something like that.
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Ohhh, I see. I just noticed that the battery life was better than mine. My first response was to question why someone would complain about that. I use my phone for everything though... all the time. I stopped worrying about battery life and bought three cheap batteries and an external charger, now I'm set.
If you were in a different area with a bad signal, that could definitely account for the drop in battery life. My battery tanks if I don't have a signal at all, especially with 3g on.
Do you have an extended battery or just good battery life?
I have the stock battery. Maybe I just got lucky a few times! I mean, there's times where I've gotten 24 hours on Myn's Warm Z, which is a ROM that, while stunning and fluid, surely does suck a bit more battery up. Of course, most of the time, I got 12-15 hours on Warm Z.
Maybe it was just a fluke?
I had service almost the entire time. It was like 1% time without signal.
I most certainly was not complaining about the first two days! That battery life was amazing and I really didn't even think it was possible. I was really just wondering what happened to cause the extreme drop suddenly.
Hm. I wonder.
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I have the stock battery. Maybe I just got lucky a few times! I mean, there's times where I've gotten 24 hours on Myn's Warm Z, which is a ROM that, while stunning and fluid, surely does suck a bit more battery up. Of course, most of the time, I got 12-15 hours on Warm Z.
Maybe it was just a fluke?
I had service almost the entire time. It was like 1% time without signal.
I most certainly was not complaining about the first two days! That battery life was amazing and I really didn't even think it was possible. I was really just wondering what happened to cause the extreme drop suddenly.
Hm. I wonder.
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Try recalibrating the battery again.
sekigah84 said:
Try recalibrating the battery again.
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Yeah, I've never manually calibrated it before. I'll have to do so.

[Q] Investigating a battery drain issue

Hello all,
A few months ago I became a proud owner of a Moto Defy, a great rugged phone that has been working great for me until just last week. For some reason the battery life was cut drastically! So bad that while the screen was off and not touched at all, the battery percentage would go from 100% to 40% in four hours.
what was even worse was when I would connect the charger, the phone would charge completely in less that 1 hour! I didn't seem to matter if I was browsing the web, playing music over the loud speaker, or just leaving it alone, the battery seemed to fall the same.
I began to research online for some answers since I couldn't believe that the battery would just go bad just like that! first I installed a custom recovery that had the option of wiping the battery stats, but that didn't work. then I stumbled across this thread on a battery bug in the android os 2.3.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039696
Even though the os on this defy is 2.2.1 I thought I was on to something. they talked about an app called watchdog. I also found an app called Battery monitor widget, which allowed me to see the battery usage in milli-amps.
I got concerned when during the day, I noticed a spike in the battery usage that was crazy! the app showed where the usage went from 99ma to 2399ma drain and I lost 8% of the battery in that one minuet! Keep in mind that the battery is only rated at 1500mAh to begin with. With that being said, I was thinking I have a short in the phone! The spike happened again later on that brought my phone to it's knees!
while reading further into the thread, I installed watch dog lite. Immediately after the installation finished, I started getting flagged for an app using over 60% of the cpu while the screen was off! Fancy widget 1.3, I had liked this app so much on my old Moto cliq, I imported it over to my defy.
Maybe I have found the culprit, I donno. This is just my experience so far, if anyone can add to this, please do. I will continue to monitor the phone and the activity of the apps. I am still shocked about the battery drain spikes that I saw! I am still, to my knolage, running the stock rom that came with the defy, now with the addition of Clockwork MOD recovery installed.
i have issues too, in the last week my battery dies in 13-14 hours with normal use. before that, it lasted 24-25 hours with heavy use. i also have sudden pattery percentage drops (which is probably the same as yours, that 8% in one minute). i already tried reflashing sbf/cm7, calibrated battery with cwm and app, nothing seems to work. now i disabled boot oc and use setvsel, and installed battery monitor widget and watchdog lite, maybe those will help :S
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Since I installed rc1.5 my battery last for a fairly long time. It droped from 100% to 26% in 23 hours with medium use (data connection always active, when I used it heavily I turned on 3g, I used wifi and I was on a sunny place so the screen was bright)
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many have reported battery drain on rc1.5, seems its not present in every case. just installed 110909 nightly, so cant really report on that yet, but ill do as soon as i can.
Im on CM& RC 1.5, my battery last me a long time (more than 30 hours) using a lot of wifi + edge data, and lots of calls and sms, so i guess i dont have the battery drain bug

[Q] Instant battery drops

Im getting some weird battery stuff, as well as the Android OS drain. If I restart my phone, once in a while It drops like 20-30%. i'll go from 46% to like 18%. I see the threads about slow draining, but mine seems to happen instantly sometimes (3 different times so far in a week), anyone have solutions? Got it from someone on ebay, can I still/should I RMA?
Someone posted a kernel fix in the international GSII forum, so we're either waiting for that to get ported over here or wait for samsung to release a fix. I have that same bug too. What percent r u getting on the Android OS? Mine is usually in the 60's.
Yeah I saw that thread, and I saw the 2 things causing it. Waiting for that fix I guess, hopefully it solves the big battery drops as well as the small draining. Mines pretty high, 30-50% I believe, and then cell reception takes 10-20% with LOS
That's alot better than mine. Although, I don't have that LOS problem. I'm running stock atm. Are u on a custom rom?
Running Starburst 1.5, stock was better for no LOS. But I like the customization on Starburst. Hopefully by the end of this week the kernel we be ported over.
Most likely a problem with the battery level algo and not an actual battery charge drop. It's probably showing the correct value after the reboot.
Using battery spy I was using like 12%-15% per hour, not even doing anything. Saw online that formating the SD card might help, just did, and now im using .8% per hour. The hell, something was scanning the SD card or something. Much better now, hopefully itll last 10-20 hours instead of 6 hours.
edit: so it went back up again. At .8% it will last 2 days+, but since the events keep taking the CPU, its draining it. I got it down to 4-8% by taking the SD card out. At least it will last a little longer. Cant wait for the fix, this baby will last days after.
Damn that sucks. I just formatted my card too cuz I was running out of options. Keep us updated tho.
so I think media scanner is draining, I downloaded rescan media root from android market and before I was draining at 12% per hour, but when I disable it with the app, it goes down to 5-6%. Anyone else try? Maybe thats something thats draining.
Oh btw have u tried turning off wifi? It only drained 6% after being off the charger for 9 hours. I havent touched the phone during that time span tho. Android os still in the 50s btw.
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These are my overnight stats when I was sleeping. It's usually worse when wifi is on.
manekineko said:
Most likely a problem with the battery level algo and not an actual battery charge drop. It's probably showing the correct value after the reboot.
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this is almost definitely correct. battery doesn't drop 15-20% because of reboot...the reading is wrong. Battery drivers have been bad on a few of the latest android phones. Just look at when your phone stays at 99% for the first 3 hrs of use each day...what, does it just get really inefficient in the afternoon because of food coma from lunch?
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Oh btw have u tried turning off wifi? It only drained 6% after being off the charger for 9 hours. I havent touched the phone during that time span tho. Android os still in the 50s btw.
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Trying now, seems to be charging faster too. I was mainly on wifi because cell standby was really high, keep getting LOS. But maybe I wont with wifi off now, and i'll see how battery does. ill keep you updated.
Still bad. Can only wait for the patches/fixes. 8 hours doing nothing almost. Sigh.
edit: sent to the galaxy support on twitter, see how that goes.
http://twitter.com/#!/GalaxySsupport/status/124174089085652992
Hey man, I got one more tweak for u to try. I just rooted my phone w/ the latest zenomax kernel and Starburst 1.5. Download setcpu and create a profile for "screen off". Set it to 200-500mhz on demand. In theory, this should prevent 100% cpu utilization while the screen is off. I'm testing this myself atm, so I can't give u my battery stats yet.
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Hey man, I got one more tweak for u to try. I just rooted my phone w/ the latest zenomax kernel and Starburst 1.5. Download setcpu and create a profile for "screen off". Set it to 200-500mhz on demand. In theory, this should prevent 100% cpu utilization while the screen is off. I'm testing this myself atm, so I can't give u my battery stats yet.
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Think I have the v3 version and 1.5 as well. I have setcpu set to 200-400 powersave. ive tried others and same. Suspend and events/0 keeping eating at the CPU. Thanks for the suggestions though.
figured i'd chime in here. i've had days where the battery was fine and days where the battery was absolute trash. it's happened on stock, and it's happened on root. but it almost always seems to coincide with LOS. the first picture is one of several instances where i've had pretty fast drain followed up by an instant dump in charge under normal use. it's strange how after the drop, it slowly works back up then levels off and drains normally. the 2nd pic is from today. i left my phone at home on accident when i went off to work, and when i returned, i had LOS and this battery stat. you can tell where i lost signal . the last pic is from yesterday while i had the phone at work all day and light use; a nice consistent drain.
FU battery drops and FML
Ok so i read all the posts in this thread and i understand theres a issue that effects the phone from even knowing what the battery % is. i had to post these though. i was at 47% then rebooted my phone. phone boots up and yehhh! woop woop 8% now mind you if you look at the graph it shows a nice constant cerve downward but steady because i was using my phone the entire time. now after the restart/batery drop of 40% i kept using the phone constantly but its funny how it took me over a hour of screen on to go from 8% to 5% !!!!! i bet to get from 5% to 1% it will take 2 more hours for sure. you can see the graph start to flatten out like its a super battery after the 40% drop because it didnt really drop to 8% !!! normally i wouldnt care since my phone battery last just as long, it just goes down really slow from 8%-1% but at 5% it auto dims screen and wont let me use my camera for the next 2-3 hours while i knock off the remaining "4%" of battery left. fml
Get Starburst v1.6. He removed DRM processes which should lower Android OS usage and thus battery draining. Plus with the LoStKernel, I haven't had any issues with losing signal since.
Also, use Titanium backup to remove running services that you don't need. I got rid of the stock email client, digital clock, media/social hub if you don't use those. They don't take up a lot of ram, but every little bit helps.
My battery life has improved after battery calibration. I suggest you calibrate if you didn't already so your battery usage graph may be more accurate. Hope this helps.
Thanks for the tips! I was wondering how you would calibrate the battery. Is it the same as wiping battery stats from CWM?

Ughh battery drain definitely too fast.

I feel like I make a thread for each phone I go through. First Blackberries, then Droid X, now Galaxy Nexus.
I am getting pretty horrible battery drain that is definitely worse than others' Nexuses. I have gone to the extended battery now for a few days, yet in the morning, when I unplug from charger (says 98% but charged?), with brightness only a quarter of the way up from lowest, I can literally watch the percentage (battery number mod in corner) drop one-by-one each minute or a few...So if I am actually using the phone, you can imagine it drops pretty fast. Yesterday, with very very moderate use the phone was still dead within 5-6 hours. It was at the mid-80s within an hour or more. Again, with moderate use.
It is stomach-dropping watching the percentage number just go down and down. Yet my friend's Gnex using the extended battery his first day did not hit 85% yesterday until 5+ hours later. The battery stats page on mine shows nothing with high numbers except Screen and Android OS, so I assume no apps are draining it. I am rooted with unlocked BL, on bigxie's deodexed ROM with softkeys mod, battery percentage mod, and power menu mod. I have 100-something apps and many widgets but no battery draining/updating ones. Others with the same ROM report fine battery.
I believe after using the ext. battery for a couple days, it should be "conditioned" if needed at all, yet I see no improvement.
I'm getting very angry watching this drop.. For example, 40 minutes off the charger with almost NO use except for turning the screen on here and there, I am at 94% battery with Screen at 46%, Android OS at 34%, Phone Idle 11%, Cell Standby 9%, and Android System 2%.
And then 1 hr 20 min in, at 88% battery with 55% Screen, 27% Android OS, 6% Phone Idle, 6% Cell Standby.
This doesn't sound normal right? Keep in mind, those numbers are with almost no phone use..very minimal settings menus visited and one update from Market.
Jesus, literally almost every time or two I turn the screen on just to check these numbers, I see the damn battery percentage drop a number. Not even using the phone how/as much as I normally would be. This is infuriating. Luckily, it doesn't seem to drain much with the screen off.
Quit checking and wait til the bug is fixed and blood pressure stabilizes?
Crazy world, ay?
Update to 4.0.2 or 4.0.3 with an improved kernel = success.
Use the phone for 1-2 weeks to stablize battery life - mine is better now than it was when I began using it. But the kernel/rom makes a big difference.
Thanks. Any suggestions on with combo to use now? 4.0.3 preferrably I guess.
Then why does my friend on totally stock 4.0.2, non-rooted have that great battery life from the first day using the extended battery?? I'm pretty much basing mine off of his and other's who are getting ridiculously long life. I never understood how it varies SO much. We should all have the same relative to usage.
just4747 said:
Thanks. Any suggestions on with combo to use now? 4.0.3 preferrably I guess.
Then why does my friend on totally stock 4.0.2, non-rooted have that great battery life from the first day using the extended battery?? I'm pretty much basing mine off of his and other's who are getting ridiculously long life. I never understood how it varies SO much. We should all have the same relative to usage.
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No. Because no two phones are set up the same. Too many variables to say relatively same usage. For instance, when i go to bed i get 2-3 hours standby per percentage point. Not everybody is going to get that.
Crazy world, ay?
@rbiter said:
No. Because no two phones are set up the same. Too many variables to say relatively same usage. For instance, when i go to bed i get 2-3 hours standby per percentage point. Not everybody is going to get that.
Crazy world, ay?
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Maybe, but the fact that I have no other visible outstanding draining factors, and I get no 4G at home and therefore have it set to CDMA only...I should not be seeing 1% drops almost every time I turn the screen on for more than 30 seconds. Especially with an extended battery.
God forbid I want to use GPS or 4G.
More battery life threads please.
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More battery life threads please.
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Wow, really? At first glance in all sub-forums I saw about two, if that. I have a legitimate concern, especially when my friend is getting about 4 times better life. Thanks for your help though in the device forum where this 'doesn't belong'.
..And over the course of only a few minutes of the screen being on maybe twice and sending one email, I saw it go from low 82-83 down to 77. ****ing awesome.
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Wow, really? At first glance in all sub-forums I saw about two, if that. I have a legitimate concern, especially when my friend is getting about 4 times better life. Thanks for your help though in the device forum where this 'doesn't belong'.
..And over the course of only a few minutes of the screen being on maybe twice and sending one email, I saw it go from low 82-83 down to 77. ****ing awesome.
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You probably have a misbehaving app. Download better battery stats from the android apps and games section here at xda and let it run for a day or so and see what processes are being used the most and what your wakelocks are, etc.
Also, find a 4.0.3 rom with a kernel that can be undervolted and try that out.
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joshnichols189 said:
You probably have a misbehaving app. Download better battery stats from the android apps and games section here at xda and let it run for a day or so and see what processes are being used the most and what your wakelocks are, etc.
Also, find a 4.0.3 rom with a kernel that can be undervolted and try that out.
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Thank you, downloading now and will check it out.
I'll admit I'm using the GSM version so my experiences may not apply but for the first few days my battery life was utter crap.
Its been MUCH improved over the last few days, I dont have the wakelock issue and with the screen off the battery drain is literally only about 3% per hour, and thats with background data on.
YES, the screen DOES use a lot of battery, it isnt really avoidable and is somewhat expected with a 720p 4.6 inch super AMOLED screen.
The one thing I can recommend doing is finding a modded kernel and undervolting that CPU - It seems they've been really rather generous providing power to the thing, I've been able to take off at least 100-150mv across the board.
Antzor said:
I'll admit I'm using the GSM version so my experiences may not apply but for the first few days my battery life was utter crap.
Its been MUCH improved over the last few days, I dont have the wakelock issue and with the screen off the battery drain is literally only about 3% per hour, and thats with background data on.
YES, the screen DOES use a lot of battery, it isnt really avoidable and is somewhat expected with a 720p 4.6 inch super AMOLED screen.
The one thing I can recommend doing is finding a modded kernel and undervolting that CPU - It seems they've been really rather generous providing power to the thing, I've been able to take off at least 100-150mv across the board.
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This - My battery on the stock battery on GSM sucked first few days, and I was really concerned I made a poor purchase. But with the screen on probably 5 or 6 hours of my work day it lives through the day and just enough to get home after that. I can charge it at work too, which I usually do. On my day off it survived 18 hours and still had ~20% battery life left on 4.0.3 AOKP/Francisco.Franco Kernel
From my experience, the battery life isn't bad. I did install the "extended" battery as soon as I bought the phone but is isn't much bigger than the stock battery. I am on stock rooted 4.02. With LTE off I use about 2% per hour in standby. With LTE on it is almost double that (3-4%/hour). I have several widgets running and gps enabled. (wifi when available) I can easily get a 16-18 hour day and have 50% remaining when I go to bed unles I sit around gaming for a couple hours.
I may try a new ROM tonight but I expect it will probably make things worse.
Im running a bone stock setup and im getting 12 -14 hours a day... normally I read posts like the one skiddingus posted and wonder why I never can achieve those readings so i feel your confusion . I do have 4g on and gps off screen is about 1/4 of the way up brightness wise

what happened to my battery?

So a few days ago I installed Nova Launcher, got root, changed my dpi to 170, applied the screen off SMS fix, and installed accuweather. I feel like battery life has decreased considerably. I usually don't leave my phone plugged in overnight, but did yesterday. Today, I am down to 81% with 22m on screen time -- at this rate, I would get an hour and a half on a full charge, where I've gotten 3 days and 5 hours of on screen time before when the phone was 100% stock. I had the phone in airplane mode for most of the day, but the battery graph still shows a sharper than usual decline. I just uninstalled accuweather to see if that would help, and will do a complete drain this charge cycle. Anyone else seen something similar to this?
I installed nova launcher prime and my battery life is still amazing. Although I'm not rooted, I wouldn't think that root is the issue. Have you installed an app that has gone rogue and is constantly running? For my part devices that was the problem most of the time. Check your battery stays to see if you can identify which app is exhausting your battery and if you can't, my suggestion is to hard reset to get better results.
One of the great things about the note is the battery life. It would suck to have this advantage become a disadvantage. Good luck
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Search for better battery stats here on Xda. You can get the paid app for free (though I recommend purchasing it).
It may help you identify the app, or service eating cycles, or draining your battery.
Did you by chance recently enable Google now?
Or do you have maps reporting/updating your location with GpS radio enabled?
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Yes, I experienced something very similar, as did at least one other user in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1977476
My battery suddenly went from being awesome to draining about 1% every 5-10 minutes with no apparent cause, even while sleeping. I wiped and re-flashed, which did not seem to help, then tried an odin re-flash, with still questionable results immediately thereafter. The next day, it seemed to be spontaneously resolved - though, I'm not convinced my battery life is quite as good as some people are reporting.
Interestingly, better battery stats did not show any suspect activity.
I know that's not a solution, but you are definitely not alone. There is something weird going on here. That other user theorized it might be a calibration issue. Seems as plausible to me as anything else. If you are feeling patient, perhaps let it be for a day or two and see if it does indeed spontaneously resolve for you. That would be a helpful data point. If you can't bring yourself to do that, at least keep us updated on what you do and the results.

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