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best rom that doesn't update so often?

i'm thinking of going with aokp, but it's kinda a "turn off" for me when it comes out with a weekly build and i feel the need to constantly check on the forums and flash to a new one
what's a good one that is just solid that doesn't require a new build update every week?

You can go Aokp because the last stable build is milestone #4 all the other builds that come out are just a nightly.
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Addictedtothegreenguy said:
You can go Aokp because the last stable build is milestone #4 all the other builds that come out are just a nightly.
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i understand but having nightly builds makes me feel like i need to constantly upgrade to the newest one

Just... don't update then? If your setup works well just leave it. You can always skip updates.

I'd go with Bamf Paradigm. Uniquely built AOSP rom, stable, and good battery life. Try it for yourself, you'll be amazed
And quality over quantity - no hyper change logs every 4 days, but if you're in for something different, jump in.

if that is such a problem then just flash AOKP Milestones... not AOKP Nightlies + Milestones.
Milestones are for people who don't want to keep updating. These milestones come 1-2 week.
Honestly, if updating a ROM / Kernel is a "turn off" because a developer is maintaining their ROM / kernel at a rate to improve your phone more and more and you don't want to stick with that maybe you should of stayed on stock ROM/kernel? Because this is like me hearing that people are complaining about a dev updating their ROM / kernel way too much.

When you rush through things and do not test enough, you end up missing issues, which ncreases the need to update the rom more frequently.
BAMF Paradigm does not release updates like mad because for every release, we have at least 3-4 testing releases to our beta testers to find and fix bugs. We do not like to consider our users the beta testers.

[INFORMAL POLL]Are you using one of the early Jelly Bean ROMs as a daily driver?

If so, who's ROM are you using?
Can you please share your experience with those of us who haven't taken the plunge yet?
What's your experience with...
battery life?
smoothness?
stability?
app incompatibilities?
whose kernel are you using?
how do you like Google Now? Does it kick Siri's butt?
would you recommend using now as a daily driver?
Feel free to add anything other experiences. I hope we can get some good info to help those of us who are still on the fence with Jelly Bean.

i'm still with stock, ill stay on it until CM10 starts nightlies. stock so far is very smooth, and great battery life.

Neo3D said:
If so, who's ROM are you using?
Can you please share your experience with those of us who haven't taken the plunge yet?
What's your experience with...
Feel free to add anything other experiences. I hope we can get some good info to help those of us who are still on the fence with Jelly Bean.
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I'm using paranoid android's JB version
battery life? Equal to AOKP on ICS (2days standby, 4~5hours screen on time)
smoothness? Perfectly smooth, equal to all the other JB roms I've tried
stability? - No issues yet
app incompatibilities? - No issues yet either
whose kernel are you using? - The standard one for paranoid android (i.e. CM10's), I used to use franco's but the battery drains too fast with no real benefit for JB
how do you like Google Now? Does it kick Siri's butt? - Google now works incredibly well.
would you recommend using now as a daily driver? - Yes

battery life?
smoothness?
stability?
app incompatibilities?
whose kernel are you using?
how do you like Google Now? Does it kick Siri's butt?
would you recommend using now as a daily driver?
I'm running Paranoid Android v1.9.1a (based on JellyBro CM10, I believe?).
Battery Life: Having a hard time seeing much difference between JB- and ICS-based builds. More on that later.
Smoothness: So. Damn. Smooth. Really, really good. Rapid scrolling through APW FB and Twitter widgets would sort of stutter on ICS builds. No such hiccups now. Similarly, when installing/updating apps in the background, my system used to lag really hard. There's still a little bit of stutter, but so much better now.
Stability: I think I had maybe two random reboots in ~3 weeks. Some of those may have been related to experimental versions of the kernel. Hard to say, as I didn't investigate particularly hard.
App Incompatibilities: Haven't run into anything yet, aside from apps which do not play by the Holo UI rules and require an onscreen menu button. (CM10 commits appear to have baked longpress Multitasking button as Menu, though. Or maybe that is all molesarecoming's doing in ParanoidAndroid. In any case, it's excellent.)
Kernel: imoseyon's leanKernel v4.2.0. Stock voltages and frequencies. Using the InteractiveX governor. There were a few experimental builds for v4.1.x that were hotfixes to get it to even boot in CM10-based ROMs. I have the feeling that the few freak reboots I got were related to the kernel's growing pains.
Google Now vs. Siri: Having never used Siri, I can't really speak to that. Google Now is quite nice though! A real step up from the previous, boring Google Search app. Voice recognition is really good, and the few commands that I've played with (setting alarms, getting directions, etc.) were neat. Voice commands aren't really my cup of tea, though. I already think about my phone too much. If I start talking to it routinely, my girlfriend will probably up and leave me. And I probably wouldn't blame her :]
Daily Driver: Obviously recommended if you're a veteran ROM flasher! And definitely painless enough that I think even a newcomer would be just fine.

Neo3D said:
If so, who's ROM are you using?
Can you please share your experience with those of us who haven't taken the plunge yet?
What's your experience with...
battery life?
smoothness?
stability?
app incompatibilities?
whose kernel are you using?
how do you like Google Now? Does it kick Siri's butt?
would you recommend using now as a daily driver?
Feel free to add anything other experiences. I hope we can get some good info to help those of us who are still on the fence with Jelly Bean.
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I am running Bugless Beast Jelly Bean from Pete Alfonso (Verizon Toro). Currently on the 7/24 build but started with 7/9
1. Battery Life is good. Initially it was shaky, but good after I turned off most of the location based Google Now options.
2. Smoothness - Awesome. Big improvement from ICS
3. Stability - Perfect so far
4. App incompatibilities - So far only one, MyTouchTunes. One normal menu selection does not respond to touch. There is another menu with the same thing so it is not a big problem.
5. Kernel - Stock
6. Google now seems cool, shows off phone really well. Not really sure yet of value, and have not spent enough time with Siri to judge.
7. Highly recommended. Better experience than stock 4.04 all around.

Neo3D said:
If so, who's ROM are you using?
Can you please share your experience with those of us who haven't taken the plunge yet?
What's your experience with...
battery life?
smoothness?
stability?
app incompatibilities?
whose kernel are you using?
how do you like Google Now? Does it kick Siri's butt?
would you recommend using now as a daily driver?
Feel free to add anything other experiences. I hope we can get some good info to help those of us who are still on the fence with Jelly Bean.
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I tried jb the day it came out and went back to cm9 because of app incompatibilities. But apps are being upgraded to the point that it's not that much of an issue now, so I made the move to jb.
Went with bigxie's 4.1.1 ROM because of his reputation for releasing very solid, stable ROMs that just work. It also is already rooted and has busybox and gapps preinstalled, which eliminates more hassle. No complaints or issues whatsoever. Smooth as glass and rock solid.
Installed Nova launcher to give me a few of the conveniences I like, at least until a CM10 release candidate comes out. No issues.
Trinity kernel is still in alpha for jb, but after reading some good reports about it, I went ahead and installed it, too. Working great so far with no hiccups. Very good color control and ability to tweak for superior battery life (two of its strong points).
So at this point I'm very satisfied with this combination and wouldn't hesitate to recommend it.
I don't use Google Now, or even keep GPS turned on at all. I'm a big believer in internet privacy, and Google doesn't need to know about my daily activities. So can't offer an opinion there.

Tried one of the Roms thinking it wouldn't be ready and I'd have to go back to ICS... how wrong was I. Once you've been to JB you'll never go back to ICS... works perfectly well, no issues.

I'm using Jellybro CM10 Kangs.
In battery I notice no difference.
Very smooth for me, no random crashes, reboots or anything like that, everything works.
Only app I had a problem with is Power amp doesn't work right in the notification bar.
My friend has an i4S, even he agrees Google Now kicks Siri's butt. The voice is more human like, pictures come up, its more of a place to get info rather than a novelty like Siri.
I would strongly recommend the ROM I'm using because it has some of the most important things I missed from ROMs; Notification drawer widget, extra lock screen targets, lock screen weather, lock screen calendar, even theme chooser works now.
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IINexusII said:
i'm still with stock, ill stay on it until CM10 starts nightlies. stock so far is very smooth, and great battery life.
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agree:laugh:

I RECOMMEND minco rom.thats a rom colabboration between minooch and franco himself.its the best rom ever,with trinity kernel.best performance+battery life.incredible.brtter than any ics or jb rom.
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Hellz yeah!
I've been running BAMF Paradigm v.2.0 since it was released a few days ago and I absolutely love it. Battery life is well, the GNex typical battery life. I always have spare batteries charged.
I've had no random reboots and confidently use it as my daily driver. I'm using the kernel that is included with the ROM. I've tried a couple others and rolled back to the stock one right away. I was getting problem with deep sleep on any alternate kernel.
I never used ICS on this phone. I rooted and flashed JB from the day I got it, so I really can't speak the the difference in performance, but I run ICS on my HP Touchpad and I know I would not be happy with it on my phone after having used JB.
I would, without hesitation, tell you to make the leap to JB.
I don't think you'll miss ICS in the least.

Xenon HD is pretty good at this moment.

Dark jelly belly ROM gsm is smooth good battery nice custom keyboard option and extras Google now is great and love jellybean it makes android smooth and fluid great stuff
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Just as an update to my previous message, Trinity kernel for Jellybean is now released as stable.

D3HuM4NiZ3D said:
I RECOMMEND minco rom.thats a rom colabboration between minooch and franco himself.its the best rom ever,with trinity kernel.best performance+battery life.incredible.brtter than any ics or jb rom.
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Minco with Trinity is better than Minco with the embedded Franco?

Galaxy Nexus JellyBean ROM Feature Comparison

As most users on XDA, I've got a rooted device that I want to use a custom ROM on, and there are so many choices it makes choosing a ROM very difficult.
And it is all a matter of preference, depending what included features (included Gapps, default launcher, notification options, etc) or what base it is built from (CM10, AOSP, AOKP, etc) everyone has their own preference.
I created this public spreadsheet, but I thought it may be useful for others, and allow others to possibly to keep track of what features are included out-of-the-box on different custom ROMs. It has really taken off since I originally created it.
http://goo.gl/U8a0E
Hopefully this can help others like me who want to quickly know what features they will or won't have with different custom ROMs.
I considered trying to do a forum post on this, but obviously I would have to keep up with updates myself on Post #1 like most stickied reference posts, that's why I thought a public Google Spreadsheet would be more helpful as anyone can update it.
Overall, a lot of this will probably be moot once a stable CM10 is released, but we never really know how long that can take. And we all know there will still be customizations made to it, one I can think of specifically is Paranoid Android.
Thanks everyone who makes updates to the sheet. I would also like to throw out a HUGE thank you to the custom ROM makers giving us stable ROMs that meet our individual needs.
And, as the Google Doc can be viewed by ANYONE, must get permission on google account to edit.
My personal "Must Haves":
- T9 Dialer (avoid having to install separate dialer app)
- Customizable Notification drop down for Additional Toggles (this has replaced the need for Widgetsoid2 since I can have the Flashlight and Wifi AP here.)
- Reboot and Reboot to Recovery in Power Menu (Mostly Reboot as a minimum as I sometimes forget to turn it back on if I Poweroff)
- Battery Percentage in Status Bar (The logo itself is no where near specific enough for my needs, and I now prefer the circle style)
NOVEMBER 24, 2012 UPDATE: Personally I've switched over to Paranoid Android 2.99.3 (beta 3), it doesn't have my personal must haves yet, but I'm sure it will, currently I'd rather have 4.2 and lose a few features, than be running 4.1.2, it is one of the first roms with customizations to be released on AOSP 4.2, so until it is 3.x it could have some bugs.

HwyXingFrog said:
I've tried a few ROMs on my Unlocked GSM Galaxy Nexus and am still trying to find the ROM that has all the features I want. And is the most stable with those features.
I just created this public spreadsheet, mostly for my own use so it is very basic at the moment. But I thought it may be useful for others, and allow others to possibly to keep track of what features are included out-of-the-box on different custom ROMs.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AggpxyzXBu--dEZMWnZTUWtMVXBpdHNteW5zTXpRVmc
Hopefully this can help others like me who want to quickly know what features they will or won't have with different custom ROMs.
I considered trying to do a forum post on this, but obviously I would have to keep up with updates myself on Post #1 like most stickied reference posts, that's why I thought a public Google Spreadsheet would be more helpful as anyone can update it.
Like I said, it is very empty right now and is completely open to others who want to make changes to it.
Overall, a lot of this will probably be moot once a stable CM10 is released, but we never really know how long that can take. And we all know there will still be customizations made to it, one I can think of specifically is Paranoid Android, and I haven't even included it on the Google Spreadsheet yet as I still haven't tried it.
I would like to throw out a HUGE thank you to the custom ROM makers giving us stable and fast versions of what CM10 can't do yet, isn't stable enough to use yet, or may never do in some cases.
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This is nice. I have bought gnex seven days ago and tried every JB ROM so far.
Also I noticed that paranoid, like you said ( the only ROM that I am using as a daily driver ) is not on this list.
You really should try his alpha 1.9.1 with included kernel. Well now all kernels work on this ROM. But I think that gnex is the beast already and doesnt need any Custom kernels.
Hey I like Franco kernel and I purchased his app and I am playing a lot with it, but as long as I need decent battery life I will use stock kernel. On that ROM I had only 2% of battery dropped in amazing 6 night hours. I just couldnt believe my eyes.
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dejson said:
This is nice. I have bought gnex seven days ago and tried every JB ROM so far.
Also I noticed that paranoid, like you said ( the only ROM that I am using as a daily driver ) is not on this list.
You really should try his alpha 1.9.1 with included kernel. Well now all kernels work on this ROM. But I think that gnex is the beast already and doesnt need any Custom kernels.
Hey I like Franco kernel and I purchased his app and I am playing a lot with it, but as long as I need decent battery life I will use stock kernel. On that ROM I had only 2% of battery dropped in amazing 6 night hours. I just couldnt believe my eyes.
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Yeah, I was trying to find a good ROM to get me by until CM10 was officially released as "Stable", and I was going to wait until that to try Paranoid Android, especially with all the customization I can do in it.
I may have to give it a try, maybe once I see my spreadsheet fill up with more user input. I'm already seeing a lot of activity on the sheet.

HwyXingFrog said:
Yeah, I was trying to find a good ROM to get me by until CM10 was officially released as "Stable", and I was going to wait until that to try Paranoid Android, especially with all the customization I can do in it.
I may have to give it a try, maybe once I see my spreadsheet fill up with more user input. I'm already seeing a lot of activity on the sheet.
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Great thing, i've just checked the document and cant believe. Excellent and I'm glad to see that there is no problems with paranoid rom so far. I respect the work of all developers, but for me paranoid is the best so far, phablet mode is excellent and original approach.
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dejson said:
Great thing, i've just checked the document and cant believe. Excellent and I'm glad to see that there is no problems with paranoid rom so far. I respect the work of all developers, but for me paranoid is the best so far, phablet mode is excellent and original approach.
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+1

Great idea, love the list. Love the idea of being able to let anyone edit it.
Excellent

ThunderStick said:
Great idea, love the list. Love the idea of being able to let anyone edit it.
Excellent
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Thanks, I assume you added Soft and Chewy.
I'm downloading the newest CM10 and JellyBro to load onto my Nexus quick, hopefully I will get those two filled in completely, then at least I will know where my baseline is for my own personal comparison.
A few people have messed it up a bit and I'm sure some changes got lost, but if I don't leave it wide open, I know a lot of people won't make changes.

So, after all of that, and the spreadsheet getting updated by users pretty nicely, it looks like there is a functional enough CM10 (from the +Google page) v1.8 that is stable enough for me to start using as a daily driver for at least a few days.
I'll be using Gapps-b as I need Picasa sync to be working.

Damn! That's great work, well done! Keeping this up to date will be the hardest part but if you manage it you will help the Galaxy Nexus community a lot! I'll try to help. Keep up the good work.

HwyXingFrog said:
Thanks, I assume you added Soft and Chewy.
I'm downloading the newest CM10 and JellyBro to load onto my Nexus quick, hopefully I will get those two filled in completely, then at least I will know where my baseline is for my own personal comparison.
A few people have messed it up a bit and I'm sure some changes got lost, but if I don't leave it wide open, I know a lot of people won't make changes.
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I would probably leave the battery life comparison off. This is very subjective on any Rom or device.
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ThunderStick said:
I would probably leave the battery life comparison off. This is very subjective on any Rom or device.
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I agree, I didn't put the battery life on there, all roms except the Nightlies like to advertise "Good" battery life anyway.
That's one of the issues with leaving it editable by anyone.

HwyXingFrog said:
That's one of the issues with leaving it editable by anyone.
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You could leave the public version as is, but add a "revised" version (editable only by you) that weeds out any egregious and obvious inaccuracies.

Oops misread.

I started one of these back in the day for the droid Eris. You should be able to leave it public, you can always see and revert changes.
Can we get a column for cdma vs GSM?
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Thanks for sharing man! Im using xenonhd ad my first custom ROM band its fine
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So, overall, I definitely accomplished what I wanted to do with the Google Doc, everyone has been awesome with their updates to it.
But, for myself, the Doc is basically useless as soon as I found CM10 v1.8 on the +Google page, which is basically a very stable nightly (although it isn't), it is exactly what I wanted....
It's very stable, gives me all the features I have as my "Bare Minimum"
- Toggles in notification screen
- Battery Percentage in Status bar
- Reboot options in shutdown menu
I ended up in the exact same state after trying numerous custom roms on my HTC Desire and Motorola Atrix previously, always just ending up with CyanogenMod7.
And I happened to just fall onto the +Google post with v1.8 while compiling the Google Doc. Was about to download 1.3 then 1.8 was posted and I'm LOVING it.
And as long as I stick to CM10, I shouldn't have to wipe my data, I'm tired of doing all my Titanium Restores (as I don't have the paid version).
Again, thanks everyone for updating the Google Doc, and as I've made it public, anyone should be able to update it and keep it updated for other people out there that want to use custom roms. And if anyone ever needs to revert anything that really breaks it, all you have to do is log in with your google account.
I really hope it helps some people find the ROM they want to use for their specific needs. And it would be nice to see more of these for different devices, especially for devices not officially supported by CyanogenMod. I may have to get one started for my Motorola Atrix 4G.

Anyone notice this on both CM official and jelly bro.
There's no Document Viewer app??? it's in stock! I can view pdf, microsoft word, without needing to download 3rd party app.
Show widget before lockscreen seems not working in both CM official and jelly bro.

Great work. Should always be maintained and help users what they really want.
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Bayint Naung said:
Anyone notice this on both CM official and jelly bro.
There's no Document Viewer app??? it's in stock! I can view pdf, microsoft word, without needing to download 3rd party app.
Show widget before lockscreen seems not working in both CM official and jelly bro.
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It may be in stock, but is not in AOSP.
Plenty of apps on the market for it, which is how we justify not adding one.

adrynalyne said:
It may be in stock, but is not in AOSP.
Plenty of apps on the market for it, which is how we justify not adding one.
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Speaking of that, does anyone know what document viewer the stock Nexus uses, and if there is an Play App, or APK I can install on CM10 that is the same.
I have Documents to Go, but I'm wondering what the Stock nexus one is.
I've added this to the spreadsheet as CM10 not having one, so if we know which app the Stock has I can put that on the spreadsheet.
Thanks.

[Q] Paranoid Android 2.99 no "system" settings subcategory

In my rooted unlocked GNex, running the latest version of ParanoidAndroid, and latest faux Sr kernel, there seems to be no system settings for the ROM like it appears on everyone else's. This also happened with my Nexus 10 running the Paranoid android for nexus 10
There is even a different category replacing it: StatusBar
What can be the reason for this?

SoulOfDownfall said:
In my rooted unlocked GNex, running the latest version of ParanoidAndroid, and latest faux Sr kernel, there seems to be no system settings for the ROM like it appears on everyone else's. This also happened with my Nexus 10 running the Paranoid android for nexus 10
There is even a different category replacing it: StatusBar
What can be the reason for this?
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There is no system settings in any of the PA 2.99 betas, you have to remember, some of the old sections that were in the 2.54 and prior PA roms are gone not due to the fact that PA is not CM based anymore and rather straight AOSP, this has been done to make the rom run smoother, faster and create better battery life. Because of this some features that were CM specific are gone and will not be returning, other features just have not been implemented yet due to PA still being in beta installing the important things first and finally some things just won't be here in the same way you saw them before because the PA team has made accessing certain things easier more convenient. This means that if one of the first two is true that is why you are not seeing what you are looking for and if the third is the cause then you just haven't looked through all of the sections of the "Customization" area in settings. Hope that helps a little.

dankblaze said:
if the third is the cause then you just haven't looked through all of the sections of the "Customization" area in settings. Hope that helps a little.
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It helped a little. How would i go about changing the transparency or the navbar?

[Q] Q&A and list of bugs for custom roms

im looking to flash a new rom and i want to thoroughly reserach it before flashing. Does anyone know where I can find FAQs and list of issues to the following roms?
Such as something like AOKP has
[ROM] AOKP(Jellybean 4.2.1 )Task650 (2.2.2013b) (AT&T)
FAQ:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29198513&postcount=3
Q&A: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29198513#post29198513
[ROM][CM10:Hybrid] PARANOIDANDROID 2.55 (11/21)
Q&A: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1819441
Though I couldnt find a summary or a list of report bugs
[ROM][PA:AOKP] ParanoidKANGdroid 1.40 (11/21) The Most Customizable ROM on Earth!
I couldnt find any Q&A for this ROM, but PA had it......
[ROM][OFFICIAL] CyanogenMod 10 Nightly Builds for SGH-I747
Q&A: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1786563
I couldnt find list of bugs for CM10, speciifcally for stable or Milestones.
If there is a link to what I'm asking for above that will be great. If not, i'll continue reading through the threads.
I'm looking at CM10 and I've been reading lots of issues even at stable......sometimes it makes me think
1) Why do people flash custom roms?
2) is it worth getting a new menu but in exchange your camera, bt, or whatever might not work. Or worse yet, something that you need but only discover that it doesnt work when you use it on the spot?

understand that some of these roms have bugs to be worked out due to the fact that they're still very new. also, many users experience bugs/glitches, etc on stable roms because they dont follow the developers installation instructions. take the time to read up on these roms and you'll be able to conclude that many bugs are the result of user error. a solid rom by a great developer (installed properly) can make your S3 the best phone you've ever had. what are you running at the moment?

xBeerdroiDx said:
understand that some of these roms have bugs to be worked out due to the fact that they're still very new. also, many users experience bugs/glitches, etc on stable roms because they dont follow the developers installation instructions. take the time to read up on these roms and you'll be able to conclude that many bugs are the result of user error. a solid rom by a great developer (installed properly) can make your S3 the best phone you've ever had. what are you running at the moment?
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running Paranoid Android.
It's fairly stable, I haven't ran into too many problems yet.
I did notice it was a bit laggier than my stock ICS after my ICS was supercharged with V6.
its also a bit laggier on games.
It delivers a few customizations i like, like calls only log, custom boot animation, customizable quick launch, face unlock that is fickle.....but i just cant see as of right now why I would change? I lose the ability to make folders on trebuchet (yes....i know Nova Prime), I lose hand swipe screen capture, i lose smart stay (yes there are apps for it). I almost wnat to say battery is a bit worse than stock, during idle its about the same.
You also lose s planner which i found a replacement apps. It just seems like a lot of work restoring sms, tibu, changing all settings to your liking, reinstalling launcher and load settings, loading contact information etc etc for the ability to add toggles, sliding background......
I'm cool for the aesthetics, but i wonder is there any practical improvements, as in performance, speed, signal, battery life.... i think i would enjoy that rom better..........would going to AOKP be the one for me?

I enjoy AOKP, but I could care less about many of the touchwiz features that many people look for/enjoy. I love the performance and reliability of AOKP as well as the ability to tweak/customize. Download Super Backup for your sms/apps, etc, make a nandroid and give something else a shot if you'd like. I've been using AOKP's 4.1.2 release since late last year and I'm not switching any time soon. I've downloaded and flashed the Nexus 4 camera (on xda forum) and have exactly the S3 I want
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xBeerdroiDx said:
I enjoy AOKP, but I could care less about many of the touchwiz features that many people look for/enjoy. I love the performance and reliability of AOKP as well as the ability to tweak/customize. Download Super Backup for your sms/apps, etc, make a nandroid and give something else a shot if you'd like. I've been using AOKP's 4.1.2 release since late last year and I'm not switching any time soon. I've downloaded and flashed the Nexus 4 camera (on xda forum) and have exactly the S3 I want
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Yea i figured i'd jump to AOKP next since PA has CM10 integrated within it already.
I've also tried Ariel (ICS rom), not only did it lack customizability, it wasnt stable. it felt like a less stable version of stock..... i was highly disappointed in my first custom rom. Its not that i like TW necessarily, but the way that everything is set up, its pretty smooth for me and the battery is good too.
I want to try out AOKP or PK before making a decision though.