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Over the next few days, I'm going to do a bit of tidying up in the various Defy sections.
The first part of that involves a new sticky in each section clearly stating what that section is for, what threads are or are not appropriate (ie no questions in the Dev section).
Hopefully this'll help cut down on the number of threads that need moving.
The proposed second part I would like some feedback on...
The act of stickying certain threads/guides/etc I've always found a little hit-and-miss and can inadvertently lead to unintended favouritism, not to mention you can eventually end up with a ridiculous number of threads stickied.
So the idea I had was that in the General and Dev sections (the two that currently have stickied threads), those threads would be un-stickied and replaced with a roll-up thread - kinda like this except there would be no other threads stickied along with it (other than the one mentioned in the first part that would explain the purpose of the section).
It's just a way of trying to keep the section as tidy as possible, though it's not the messiest, which is why I'm not 100% set on going ahead and would prefer to hear what people think.
A little clean up is a good idea.
I'm for a main roll-up thread in every section, that way the useful guides/infos will be easier to find/edit.
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Hate when i see questions and request in dev section!
Do something!!!
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nogoodusername said:
Do something!!!
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What do you suggest?
Seems good. I myself have two popular guides in the general section you can't have missed (soft-sim unlock and double boot). How will the roll-up thread work exactly?
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nogoodusername said:
Hate when i see questions and request in dev section!
Do something!!!
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Best thing for now is to report the thread for maintance/moving that's what i have been doing with the dev section
Thanks again Step666 for cleaning up the ones i reported...... +1 on the rollup thread thread it makes things a lot easier for new users as they can find everything in one thread.
support the idea fully (both), but have to ask for something: to always keep that one stickied thread up-to-date, otherwise it has no sense. and the thread you linked didnt mention the 'all-in-one defy beginners guide' which i find very useful for everybody, so i think that should be involved too. and thanks for looking after the defy section, it did get quite messy over the last few weeks, months.
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What do you suggest?
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Hmm...
What should we do?
I don't know?
Why do they post a que in dev section!
Maybe put up azrionach's(from xdatv) video about noobs on 1st page?
All I want is Dev Section to be clean
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Kayant said:
Best thing for now is to report the thread for maintance/moving that's what i have been doing with the dev section
Thanks again Step666 for cleaning up the ones i reported...... +1 on the rollup thread thread it makes things a lot easier for new users as they can find everything in one thread.
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I do nearly every day!!
Yesterday i reported 3 maybe!
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Is it possible to have two xda members governing one same thread? It would be best to keep a thread up to date if two people where allowed to edit the OP. Could it be possible?
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crakeron said:
Seems good. I myself have two popular guides in the general section you can't have missed (soft-sim unlock and double boot). How will the roll-up thread work exactly?
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It would list all the current guides that are to be found in our Defy forums at the moment
Voted for the roll-up thread. What suggestions could we have about it? Like, which threads should be included?
I hate it when someone quotes the OP's post after 20-30 pages only to ask a question whose answer was in the previously 20-30 unread pages. Also, when someone quotes a really LONG post only to add a short answer/joke/offtopic question or a smiley and an encouragement.
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crakeron said:
How will the roll-up thread work exactly?
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Similar to the one I linked-to, with a series of links to useful guides etc - except I'd probably go a step further and include a short description of what each thread contained.
There'd be one in this section and one in the Dev section.
zakoo2 said:
but have to ask for something: to always keep that one stickied thread up-to-date, otherwise it has no sense.
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I agree.
And that's where I'd need your help - whilst I own a Defy my primary handset now is my Galaxy Nexus, so I'm just not as clued up on things here as the rest of you.
So whilst I'd do my best to keep it updated, if there was a thread you felt was missing from the roll-up, then you'd be best to PM me and I could add it.
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Hmm...
What should we do?
I don't know?
Why do they post a que in dev section!
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Unfortunately, there's no way to force people to pay attention/follow the rules/behave like vaguely-competent individuals.
So all we can do is react to people who have posted in the wrong section.
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Is it possible to have two xda members governing one same thread? It would be best to keep a thread up to date if two people where allowed to edit the OP. Could it be possible?
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No, unfortunately the forum software doesn't allow for that.
I guess an alternative would be to have the 'roll-up' lists in the Defy Wiki where anyone can edit them and I would just have a link to them from the one sticky in each section.
niksy+ said:
It would list all the current guides that are to be found in our Defy forums at the moment
Voted for the roll-up thread. What suggestions could we have about it? Like, which threads should be included?
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Yeah, sure - that's exactly the sort of feedback that I'd want/need.
vap_66 said:
I hate it when someone quotes the OP's post after 20-30 pages only to ask a question whose answer was in the previously 20-30 unread pages. Also, when someone quotes a really LONG post only to add a short answer/joke/offtopic question or a smiley and an encouragement.
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Report them.
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Report them.
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Report them for what?
What category?
Haha now ull get more reports from me!!!
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nogoodusername said:
Report them for what?
What category?
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Doesn't really matter.
You can PM me directly if you prefer.
The important thing is if you see something wrong, you bring it to my attention...
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Haha now ull get more reports from me!!!
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Bring it on!
Seriously though, I really appreciate the work you all do reporting threads.
I couldn't do what I need to without all your help.
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Doesn't really matter.
You can PM me directly if you prefer.
The important thing is if you see something wrong, you bring it to my attention...
Bring it on!
Seriously though, I really appreciate the work you all do reporting threads.
I couldn't do what I need to without all your help.
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Ohk... just wanna keep defy forum clean! Thats all...
Bless u!
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A mod has had to delete a thread for maintainance and explicitly tell people not to post off topic only to have the same thing just continue one thread over in the racing build thread unless that is really 13 pages of useful information. Instead of telling to people to stay on topic and continue the trend I made this post.
Could everyone keep the dev threads to dev posts. If you have a bug make a logcat. If you want to say thanks start a single thanks thread in general, I am not sure if thats kosher but at least if the mods have a problem with such thanks thread they can just delete it without having to go through and look for actually useful posts.
Mods on this
reinbeau said:
There is a Thanks button, use it.
Do not post Woop! Or nice job! or anything else that has nothing else to do with Development or this thread will be closed. I am sick of clearing out blathering.
Development discussion only.
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Even the devs want you to stay on topic on their threads
Racing19969 said:
Thanks everyone. let's please keep this on topic so it does not get shutdown
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The mods could delete this thread if they dont think it helps
Bro, I have no idea what you said but I think I agree
we had to clean up a lot of useless comments in that topic which were nothing related to development at all
please keep all chatters in General
feel free to open a new topic for the specific ROM in question
but do not CLUTTER the Development topic with comments that provides no value in the development.
I feel for you guys, You post that people not to go off topic then people posting like you didnt just tell them not to go off topic.
The people even reading this post are the people who probably don't need to be told. It Sucks because the annoying posters are ruining it for those following the rules. The most I type in a dev thread is f5 sigh.
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degeneration said:
The people even reading this post are the people who probably don't need to be told. It Sucks because the annoying posters are ruining it for those following the rules. The most I type in a dev thread is f5 sigh.
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I think they should probably close the thread for a day or two which would force people to make a thread in general. The mod warnings seem to be immediately ignored
look at this gem which obviously belongs here
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Excuse me for my question but does that mean T-Mobile will send out the real ICS update soon?? My phone isn't rooted because I'm having problems with Odin opening. Thanks for the info.
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this is aside from all the variations of posts with know bugs followed by a thanks
It would just be easier for us to report the people who don't follow. People forget about the report button.
The same moderator has to clean one of the threads twice already. I wish all the Dev threads were cleaned up. There's a lot of garbage in a lot of them. People posting first, second, third.....downloading now, will report later. Or thanks! Your awesome.....there's a thank button for a reason.
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Beefvvl said:
It would just be easier for us to report the people who don't follow. People forget about the report button.
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Its kinda hopeless right now because if you look at the threads. A mod will clean it up and put up a notice to stay on topic and literally minutes later it will go back to offtopic posts.
jim93 said:
Its kinda hopeless right now because if you look at the threads. A mod will clean it up and put up a notice to stay on topic and literally minutes later it will go back to offtopic posts.
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They keep doing it cuz no one reports the individuals. If they are never penalized for their behavior, then they will never correct it.
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Beefvvl said:
They keep doing it cuz no one reports the individuals. If they are never penalized for their behavior, then they will never correct it.
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People are reporting them and the mods are aware. Allgamer posted on this thread that they are aware of it. It just keeps coming from different posters.
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It would just be easier for us to report the people who don't follow. People forget about the report button.
The same moderator has to clean one of the threads twice already. I wish all the Dev threads were cleaned up. There's a lot of garbage in a lot of them. People posting first, second, third.....downloading now, will report later. Or thanks! Your awesome.....there's a thank button for a reason.
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Wait, what? How does that logic work?
It is easier for us to to go through and report each post so that a moderator is forced to look over each one and decide if it should be deleted or not than it would for people to act responsible for their own crap and just not post worthless stuff in a dev thread?
Sure it might be easier for me to just report each post instead of trying to educate anyone, but now because one person is doing whatever they please I have to report them AND a moderator has to take the time to go and delete it.
degeneration said:
Wait, what? How does that logic work?
It is easier for us to to go through and report each post so that a moderator is forced to look over each one and decide if it should be deleted or not than it would for people to act responsible for their own crap and just not post worthless stuff in a dev thread?
Sure it might be easier for me to just report each post instead of trying to educate anyone, but now because one person is doing whatever they please I have to report them AND a moderator has to take the time to go and delete it.
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Aside from the fact that people are reporting people, it just doesnt stop and keeps going faster than the 60 second between reports rule sometimes
Well, now the thread is closed. Those who made it happen by posting useless crap will probably not learn anything from it either. Sigh.
I have a quick question in regards to that RaverX thread that just closed:
For those of us that DO want to follow the rules and prefer to follow the progress of the ROM, where do we go from here? I know the ROM is on sourceforge, so I can at least see if there are updates.
Should this have just been a PM, or are there others that share this curiosity?
ICS is awesome, but a lot of n00bs I have never seen post a single comment around here started posting out of nowhere lol.
I'm going to do something productive rather than be annoyed by these n00bs. I suggest you guys do the same.
I came from the G2 forum and own a sensation also. There seem to be more inconsiderate people here than either of those forums. I for one am glad those threads got shut down.
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dsp4774 said:
I have a quick question in regards to that RaverX thread that just closed:
For those of us that DO want to follow the rules and prefer to follow the progress of the ROM, where do we go from here? I know the ROM is on sourceforge, so I can at least see if there are updates.
Should this have just been a PM, or are there others that share this curiosity?
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it would be opened shortly, but should be closed for now until it is cleaned up or until raver updates the ROM. So don't think it's the end of the world.
Well this sucks.. guess were stuck.
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degeneration said:
Well, now the thread is closed. Those who made it happen by posting useless crap will probably not learn anything from it either. Sigh.
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suddenly people are going to post here about how they suddenly care after the fact. The whole point of this thread was to keep the ot posts down so that the threads are not closed.
dsp4774 said:
I have a quick question in regards to that RaverX thread that just closed:
For those of us that DO want to follow the rules and prefer to follow the progress of the ROM, where do we go from here? I know the ROM is on sourceforge, so I can at least see if there are updates.
Should this have just been a PM, or are there others that share this curiosity?
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its in ravers sourceforge so he can update the rom and still have the same link
as im browsing the other forum...i noticed a newbie or newbies posting new threads from here which is a copy paste and reworded to tagalog and doesnt give credits to the source,dev or op...
is it really a that easy to steal your works?
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as im browsing the other forum...i noticed a newbie or newbies posting new threads from here which is a copy paste and reworded to tagalog and doesnt give credits to the source,dev or op...
is it really a that easy to steal your works?
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I guess one can report or inform the original developer, I am sure it is against the rules if the developer has not given them permission to re-post it elsewhere.
Please note that posting a link to original thread is usually allowed.
P.S. Excuse me if I am wrong
your right...that is what im doin...reporting those thread to the mods
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your right...that is what im doin...reporting those thread to the mods
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atleast he should give credits to OP ... !!
I don't mind. Saves me from feeling guilty when people brick their devices. Also I get to pass the burden of having to answer incessant questions of noobs to the ones copying and pasting my works without my permission.
I am not out here to gather credits or praise anyway. I just want to share what I know to the community (to some extent).
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no probs for me (lol)
bumslayer said:
I don't mind. Saves me from feeling guilty when people brick their devices. Also I get to pass the burden of having to answer incessant questions of noobs to the ones copying and pasting my works without my permission.
I am not out here to gather credits or praise anyway. I just want to share what I know to the community (to some extent).
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Huh cool bro.... !! the 2nd part of ur post was awesome ... they will bang their head when they will have piles of question in their thread ...
Is there such thing as receiving a notification when the first post of the thread I am subscribed to has been edited? It would be especially helpful on the developers' subforum.
It would be nice but no there is no way to get a notification when the op is edited.
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No need to worry though, because usually OPs post a reply in the thread that the first post has been edited. Like "updated to 2.1 version, please check the first post".
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anasdcool71 said:
No need to worry though, because usually OPs post a reply in the thread that the first post has been edited. Like "updated to 2.1 version, please check the first post".
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And when that is done,if the thread is subscribed,the user can get to a notification
POTATO!!!!
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And when that is done,if the thread is subscribed,the user can get to a notification
POTATO!!!!
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Not always useful though, especially if the post gets 100+ replies per day anyway! :laugh:
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Not always useful though, especially if the post gets 100+ replies per day anyway! :laugh:
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Unfortunately, that is caused by people posting stuff in the Dev threads that shouldn't be there. If people could actually understand what the Dev threads are for and not post cr4p in there like "Thanks" or "Why doesn't this work - I haven't bothered searching".
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Not always useful though, especially if the post gets 100+ replies per day anyway! :laugh:
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That's a sacrifice that should be made unfortunately
POTATO!!!!
That's actually a very good idea :good:
I can't think of any easy way it could be implemented, but I'll mention it to the server admin just in case
so who owns xda, like who runs it at the main control point, who founded it and so on?
I'm also eager to hear....
tanushanand007 said:
I'm also eager to hear....
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i think we are allowed to know who is the head of this "operation" and how we can contact him about "important" matters.
i think i found him
if you go to the very last post of this forum you will get this guy many times
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=218065
You can contact the proper persons via the contact form.
Any senior member or moderator can answer this?
the commitee and we all
tanushanand007 said:
Any senior member or moderator can answer this?
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Had you read the thread you would have noticed an administrator answering the question.
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The main admin is MikeChannon, next to him is contraut, MTM and a many more.
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Had you read the thread you would have noticed an administrator answering the question.
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Not yet..
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The main admin is MikeChannon, next to him is contraut, MTM and a many more.
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Thanks
OptimusLove said:
The main admin is MikeChannon, next to him is contraut, MTM and a many more.
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That's incredibly inaccurate but never mind.....
Admins;
Svetius
Mike Channon
Egzthunder
NotATreoFan
pulser_g2
Willverduzco
Bitpushr
Stylez
Senior Mods
Forum Moderators
See the link in my sig for the full list. Who owns the site is fairly irrelevant, if you have any queries please use the contact form as already suggested.
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That's incredibly inaccurate but never mind.....
Admins;
Svetius
Mike Channon
Egzthunder
NotATreoFan
pulser_g2
Willverduzco
Bitpushr
Stylez
Senior Mods
Forum Moderators
See the link in my sig for the full list. Who owns the site is fairly irrelevant, if you have any queries please use the contact form as already suggested.
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Thanks :good:
russian392 said:
so who owns xda, like who runs it at the main control point, who founded it and so on?
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Aliens.
HTC One X Viper X 3.2.2
http://www.xda-developers.com/feature/xda-developers-the-history-part-one/
A Developer...lol....
Search Wikipedia!
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K3vin71 said:
Search Wikipedia!
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don't you think reading a thread before answering is important as well?
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thanks this actualy answered my question. they should post this on the xda news cause NO ONE KNOWS THIS
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Ya really...
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What really? The question was already answered by Conan, what else?
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Aliens.
HTC One X Viper X 3.2.2
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i find your post extremely credible