Develop Bugs

Tidying-up/over-hauling the stickies etc

Over the next few days, I'm going to do a bit of tidying up in the various Defy sections.
The first part of that involves a new sticky in each section clearly stating what that section is for, what threads are or are not appropriate (ie no questions in the Dev section).
Hopefully this'll help cut down on the number of threads that need moving.
The proposed second part I would like some feedback on...
The act of stickying certain threads/guides/etc I've always found a little hit-and-miss and can inadvertently lead to unintended favouritism, not to mention you can eventually end up with a ridiculous number of threads stickied.
So the idea I had was that in the General and Dev sections (the two that currently have stickied threads), those threads would be un-stickied and replaced with a roll-up thread - kinda like this except there would be no other threads stickied along with it (other than the one mentioned in the first part that would explain the purpose of the section).
It's just a way of trying to keep the section as tidy as possible, though it's not the messiest, which is why I'm not 100% set on going ahead and would prefer to hear what people think.

A little clean up is a good idea.
I'm for a main roll-up thread in every section, that way the useful guides/infos will be easier to find/edit.
Trimis de pe Defy CM9

Hate when i see questions and request in dev section!
Do something!!!
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nogoodusername said:
Do something!!!
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What do you suggest?

Seems good. I myself have two popular guides in the general section you can't have missed (soft-sim unlock and double boot). How will the roll-up thread work exactly?
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nogoodusername said:
Hate when i see questions and request in dev section!
Do something!!!
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Best thing for now is to report the thread for maintance/moving that's what i have been doing with the dev section
Thanks again Step666 for cleaning up the ones i reported...... +1 on the rollup thread thread it makes things a lot easier for new users as they can find everything in one thread.

support the idea fully (both), but have to ask for something: to always keep that one stickied thread up-to-date, otherwise it has no sense. and the thread you linked didnt mention the 'all-in-one defy beginners guide' which i find very useful for everybody, so i think that should be involved too. and thanks for looking after the defy section, it did get quite messy over the last few weeks, months.
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Step666 said:
What do you suggest?
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Hmm...
What should we do?
I don't know?
Why do they post a que in dev section!
Maybe put up azrionach's(from xdatv) video about noobs on 1st page?
All I want is Dev Section to be clean
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Kayant said:
Best thing for now is to report the thread for maintance/moving that's what i have been doing with the dev section
Thanks again Step666 for cleaning up the ones i reported...... +1 on the rollup thread thread it makes things a lot easier for new users as they can find everything in one thread.
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I do nearly every day!!
Yesterday i reported 3 maybe!
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Is it possible to have two xda members governing one same thread? It would be best to keep a thread up to date if two people where allowed to edit the OP. Could it be possible?
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crakeron said:
Seems good. I myself have two popular guides in the general section you can't have missed (soft-sim unlock and double boot). How will the roll-up thread work exactly?
CM7 + CM9 double boot
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It would list all the current guides that are to be found in our Defy forums at the moment
Voted for the roll-up thread. What suggestions could we have about it? Like, which threads should be included?

I hate it when someone quotes the OP's post after 20-30 pages only to ask a question whose answer was in the previously 20-30 unread pages. Also, when someone quotes a really LONG post only to add a short answer/joke/offtopic question or a smiley and an encouragement.
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crakeron said:
How will the roll-up thread work exactly?
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Similar to the one I linked-to, with a series of links to useful guides etc - except I'd probably go a step further and include a short description of what each thread contained.
There'd be one in this section and one in the Dev section.
zakoo2 said:
but have to ask for something: to always keep that one stickied thread up-to-date, otherwise it has no sense.
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I agree.
And that's where I'd need your help - whilst I own a Defy my primary handset now is my Galaxy Nexus, so I'm just not as clued up on things here as the rest of you.
So whilst I'd do my best to keep it updated, if there was a thread you felt was missing from the roll-up, then you'd be best to PM me and I could add it.
nogoodusername said:
Hmm...
What should we do?
I don't know?
Why do they post a que in dev section!
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Unfortunately, there's no way to force people to pay attention/follow the rules/behave like vaguely-competent individuals.
So all we can do is react to people who have posted in the wrong section.
crakeron said:
Is it possible to have two xda members governing one same thread? It would be best to keep a thread up to date if two people where allowed to edit the OP. Could it be possible?
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No, unfortunately the forum software doesn't allow for that.
I guess an alternative would be to have the 'roll-up' lists in the Defy Wiki where anyone can edit them and I would just have a link to them from the one sticky in each section.
niksy+ said:
It would list all the current guides that are to be found in our Defy forums at the moment
Voted for the roll-up thread. What suggestions could we have about it? Like, which threads should be included?
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Yeah, sure - that's exactly the sort of feedback that I'd want/need.
vap_66 said:
I hate it when someone quotes the OP's post after 20-30 pages only to ask a question whose answer was in the previously 20-30 unread pages. Also, when someone quotes a really LONG post only to add a short answer/joke/offtopic question or a smiley and an encouragement.
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Report them.

Step666 said:
Report them.
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Report them for what?
What category?
Haha now ull get more reports from me!!!
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nogoodusername said:
Report them for what?
What category?
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Doesn't really matter.
You can PM me directly if you prefer.
The important thing is if you see something wrong, you bring it to my attention...
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Haha now ull get more reports from me!!!
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Bring it on!
Seriously though, I really appreciate the work you all do reporting threads.
I couldn't do what I need to without all your help.

Step666 said:
Doesn't really matter.
You can PM me directly if you prefer.
The important thing is if you see something wrong, you bring it to my attention...
Bring it on!
Seriously though, I really appreciate the work you all do reporting threads.
I couldn't do what I need to without all your help.
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Ohk... just wanna keep defy forum clean! Thats all...
Bless u!
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Development Threads. Please keep comments in general.

A mod has had to delete a thread for maintainance and explicitly tell people not to post off topic only to have the same thing just continue one thread over in the racing build thread unless that is really 13 pages of useful information. Instead of telling to people to stay on topic and continue the trend I made this post.
Could everyone keep the dev threads to dev posts. If you have a bug make a logcat. If you want to say thanks start a single thanks thread in general, I am not sure if thats kosher but at least if the mods have a problem with such thanks thread they can just delete it without having to go through and look for actually useful posts.
Mods on this
reinbeau said:
There is a Thanks button, use it.
Do not post Woop! Or nice job! or anything else that has nothing else to do with Development or this thread will be closed. I am sick of clearing out blathering.
Development discussion only.
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Even the devs want you to stay on topic on their threads
Racing19969 said:
Thanks everyone. let's please keep this on topic so it does not get shutdown
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The mods could delete this thread if they dont think it helps

Bro, I have no idea what you said but I think I agree

we had to clean up a lot of useless comments in that topic which were nothing related to development at all
please keep all chatters in General
feel free to open a new topic for the specific ROM in question
but do not CLUTTER the Development topic with comments that provides no value in the development.

I feel for you guys, You post that people not to go off topic then people posting like you didnt just tell them not to go off topic.

The people even reading this post are the people who probably don't need to be told. It Sucks because the annoying posters are ruining it for those following the rules. The most I type in a dev thread is f5 sigh.
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degeneration said:
The people even reading this post are the people who probably don't need to be told. It Sucks because the annoying posters are ruining it for those following the rules. The most I type in a dev thread is f5 sigh.
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I think they should probably close the thread for a day or two which would force people to make a thread in general. The mod warnings seem to be immediately ignored
look at this gem which obviously belongs here
suaverc118 said:
Excuse me for my question but does that mean T-Mobile will send out the real ICS update soon?? My phone isn't rooted because I'm having problems with Odin opening. Thanks for the info.
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this is aside from all the variations of posts with know bugs followed by a thanks

It would just be easier for us to report the people who don't follow. People forget about the report button.
The same moderator has to clean one of the threads twice already. I wish all the Dev threads were cleaned up. There's a lot of garbage in a lot of them. People posting first, second, third.....downloading now, will report later. Or thanks! Your awesome.....there's a thank button for a reason.
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Beefvvl said:
It would just be easier for us to report the people who don't follow. People forget about the report button.
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Its kinda hopeless right now because if you look at the threads. A mod will clean it up and put up a notice to stay on topic and literally minutes later it will go back to offtopic posts.

jim93 said:
Its kinda hopeless right now because if you look at the threads. A mod will clean it up and put up a notice to stay on topic and literally minutes later it will go back to offtopic posts.
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They keep doing it cuz no one reports the individuals. If they are never penalized for their behavior, then they will never correct it.
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Beefvvl said:
They keep doing it cuz no one reports the individuals. If they are never penalized for their behavior, then they will never correct it.
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People are reporting them and the mods are aware. Allgamer posted on this thread that they are aware of it. It just keeps coming from different posters.

Beefvvl said:
It would just be easier for us to report the people who don't follow. People forget about the report button.
The same moderator has to clean one of the threads twice already. I wish all the Dev threads were cleaned up. There's a lot of garbage in a lot of them. People posting first, second, third.....downloading now, will report later. Or thanks! Your awesome.....there's a thank button for a reason.
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Wait, what? How does that logic work?
It is easier for us to to go through and report each post so that a moderator is forced to look over each one and decide if it should be deleted or not than it would for people to act responsible for their own crap and just not post worthless stuff in a dev thread?
Sure it might be easier for me to just report each post instead of trying to educate anyone, but now because one person is doing whatever they please I have to report them AND a moderator has to take the time to go and delete it.

degeneration said:
Wait, what? How does that logic work?
It is easier for us to to go through and report each post so that a moderator is forced to look over each one and decide if it should be deleted or not than it would for people to act responsible for their own crap and just not post worthless stuff in a dev thread?
Sure it might be easier for me to just report each post instead of trying to educate anyone, but now because one person is doing whatever they please I have to report them AND a moderator has to take the time to go and delete it.
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Aside from the fact that people are reporting people, it just doesnt stop and keeps going faster than the 60 second between reports rule sometimes

Well, now the thread is closed. Those who made it happen by posting useless crap will probably not learn anything from it either. Sigh.

I have a quick question in regards to that RaverX thread that just closed:
For those of us that DO want to follow the rules and prefer to follow the progress of the ROM, where do we go from here? I know the ROM is on sourceforge, so I can at least see if there are updates.
Should this have just been a PM, or are there others that share this curiosity?

ICS is awesome, but a lot of n00bs I have never seen post a single comment around here started posting out of nowhere lol.
I'm going to do something productive rather than be annoyed by these n00bs. I suggest you guys do the same.

I came from the G2 forum and own a sensation also. There seem to be more inconsiderate people here than either of those forums. I for one am glad those threads got shut down.
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dsp4774 said:
I have a quick question in regards to that RaverX thread that just closed:
For those of us that DO want to follow the rules and prefer to follow the progress of the ROM, where do we go from here? I know the ROM is on sourceforge, so I can at least see if there are updates.
Should this have just been a PM, or are there others that share this curiosity?
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it would be opened shortly, but should be closed for now until it is cleaned up or until raver updates the ROM. So don't think it's the end of the world.

Well this sucks.. guess were stuck.
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degeneration said:
Well, now the thread is closed. Those who made it happen by posting useless crap will probably not learn anything from it either. Sigh.
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suddenly people are going to post here about how they suddenly care after the fact. The whole point of this thread was to keep the ot posts down so that the threads are not closed.

dsp4774 said:
I have a quick question in regards to that RaverX thread that just closed:
For those of us that DO want to follow the rules and prefer to follow the progress of the ROM, where do we go from here? I know the ROM is on sourceforge, so I can at least see if there are updates.
Should this have just been a PM, or are there others that share this curiosity?
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its in ravers sourceforge so he can update the rom and still have the same link

My thanked posts missing

ATM in my user statistics I get unexpectedly no matches for thanked posts. It's an inconvenience for me since it will take time locating every helpful post I've thanked via search. Is there a database update cycle I'll have to wait for or something?

What do you mean buddy? In your profile statistics the post you thanked is missing or your post that has been thanked is missing?
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ephraim033 said:
...In your profile statistics the post you thanked is missing...
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This

You can't see it there. The only thing you can see in your statistics is
1. Posts
2. Threads Started
3. Your posts that have been thanked by others.
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i dont care about it !

ephraim033 said:
You can't see it there. The only thing you can see in your statistics is
1. Posts
2. Threads Started
3. Your posts that have been thanked by others.
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Got it. It's too bad you can't get a list of posts the user himself has thanked. I think it would encourage users to give thanks to truly helpful post for the benefit of being able to quickly revisit those posts at a later time if needed.

RoadToNever said:
Got it. It's too bad you can't get a list of posts the user himself has thanked. I think it would encourage users to give thanks to truly helpful post for the benefit of being able to quickly revisit those posts at a later time if needed.
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Yeah, the first time i saw the "thanks blah blah" on user statistics i thought it is for the thanks you gave, was happy to know it is for the thanks you receive so that we'll know the helpful post we gave. It'll be good to have both though.
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ephraim033 said:
Yeah, the first time i saw the "thanks blah blah" on user statistics i thought it is for the thanks you gave, was happy to know it is for the thanks you receive so that we'll know the helpful post we gave. It'll be good to have both though.
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Fair point. Anyway I found a way to abuse the twitter functionality for my needs.:laugh:

Thank you everyone on xda

I just want to Thank everyone on xda for helping me to fix/flashing roms/rooting/s-off my galaxy s3 and DHD. And not even thanked individually everyone for using there Rom/mods/tweaks/guide.
But I can help if some wants to mirror his data on dropbox. As I have 100gb space. Just let me know I'll download your file upload to my dropbox and send you a link. Can't post a direct link as I am a kid on xda
Sorry for my bad English iam from India
Love you all
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This website is the best of internet for mobiles.
The work and support of the users of XDA is incredible.
Thank's!

Good thing to hear that you're enjoying the site.

XDA is the best mobile support website forever.

XDA is indeed a great site
It's one of those few sites that makes me look forward to things.
I've been on XDA so much these last days when there is new JB releases here and there for the S3. Great fun.

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the greatest development forum
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Wow. That's such an insightful post.
It's really quite shocking that out of approximately 4.5 million users that you'd think you're the only user here who thinks that this is "the greatest development forum".
May I make a suggestion?
Instead of jumping through random threads across XDA to tell people pointless stuff just to get up to 10 posts, you actually devote a bit of your time to reading threads such as :-
Forum Rules
Postcount limit in the developmental fora
Get the most out of XDA
XDA New User Guide
Now, you might be thinking that reading all of them might take quite a bit of time, and you're right. But it's either spend the time to read and follow what is said in those threads, or keep on doing what you are and quickly find that a moderator has deleted your posts because they're spamming.
The choice is yours
Oh, and please don't think that those threads were written for people like you just to ignore. That would be a really silly presumption to make and you'd quickly find out that those threads are in place to make this a much better place for all of us.
However, if you're struggling to think of how to get a legitimate 10 posts, then you should start off by answering peoples question in the General and Q&A sections for your device.
Much obliged
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And if you think that's tl;dr (too long;didn't read), please refer to this.

KidCarter93 said:
And if you think that's tl;dr (too long;didn't read), please refer to this.
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Why You Little!!!

roofrider said:
Why You Little!!!
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It done its job then
Successful troll is successful

lol 'course :laugh:

kopitehC said:
:laugh::laugh::laugh:
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Ohh boy...
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a.cid said:
Ohh boy...
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I was tempted to do the same kinda thing again, but the thread will get closed if it's just full of my rants
Successful troll is successful

This is the best forum for development!

I request mods to close this thread, as its soon turning to a "Yes, I'll get my 10 post here!" thread...
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a.cid said:
I request mods to close this thread, as its soon turning to a "Yes, I'll get my 10 post here!" thread...
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True
Thread closed

Thread deleted without explanation or reason.

My recent thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31770295 was deleted without explination from the 'moderator'.
My thread was regarding FREE Widgets made by the xda community for Chameleon Launcher and there was nothing commercial about it.
Explanation please.

Wel as the thread was deleted onky the mod that did it would know.
Perhaps you posted in the wrong section?
Or it wasnt your work to post?
Or something else.... More info would be needed
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zacthespack said:
Wel as the thread was deleted onky the mod that did it would know.
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The mod deleted it without the courtesy of explaining why.
Perhaps you posted in the wrong section?
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As other widget posts are there, I don't think so.
Or it wasnt your work to post?
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No work was posted. The aim of the thread was a repository for FREE widgets for Chameleon Launcher.
I'm beginning to understand why so many are leaving xda, and why I don't bother with it much any more...

iridium21 said:
My recent thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31770295 was deleted without explination from the 'moderator'.
My thread was regarding FREE Widgets made by the xda community for Chameleon Launcher and there was nothing commercial about it.
Explanation please.
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Have you sent the mod a pm asking him/her why it was deleted?

ronnie498 said:
Have you sent the mod a pm asking him/her why it was deleted?
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Yep, no reply.

I've restored it, looks like there was confusion over it being a paid app.
Xda operates to a 24 hour best effort response though. Have 24 hours or so elapsed since sending the message?

The link in the OP of the thread is for the paid version, there is a free version but that is not in the OP.

s.d.oconnor said:
The link in the OP of the thread is for the paid version, there is a free version but that is not in the OP.
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Are you referring to the launcher itself? (can't tell as it's not compatible with my device)
The op wants a thread for widgets for said launcher, not the app itself.
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....

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I've restored it, looks like there was confusion over it being a paid app.
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Thank you. However, if the mod had read the thread thoroughly, he would have seen that it was about free widgets.
Xda operates to a 24 hour best effort response though. Have 24 hours or so elapsed since sending the message?
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Hmm, that's not really the point though, is it? If the xda moderator was doing his (admittedly difficult at some times) job properly, it wouldn't have been incorrectly closed in the first place...

iridium21 said:
Thank you. However, if the mod had read the thread thoroughly, he would have seen that it was about free widgets.
Hmm, that's not really the point though, is it? If the xda moderator was doing his (admittedly difficult at some times) job properly, it wouldn't have been incorrectly closed in the first place...
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You need to chill sometimes this stuff happens its called being human
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Mods will sometimes make mistakes, you admit it's hard at times. Pulsar restored the thread with the quickness so no real harm done.

Not only that, it does say that threads will be moved/deleted without notice.... not saying yours should've been, just saying that the mods don't have to notify the op when moving/closing a thread.................

iridium21 said:
My recent thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31770295 was deleted without explination from the 'moderator'.
My thread was regarding FREE Widgets made by the xda community for Chameleon Launcher and there was nothing commercial about it.
Explanation please.
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Ideally the mod who deleted it should PM you explaining why. We do work hard to keep everything in order, buut with 4.6Mn users and 2Mn threads, something is bound to be overlooked.. just bad luck
But as I see it has not been sorted Thread closed.