Does anyone know of a senseless ICS rom that is newer than this one? Something based off a Sense 4 base.
I would love to go the CM route, but I love my Sense Mail. No other mail apps have come close to the way it handles multiple accounts, subfolders (both imap and exchange), and even message threads/grouping.
I didn't see anything here besides the one mentioned above and some older 2.x based ROMs.
Thanks
Zhindel said:
Does anyone know of a senseless ICS rom that is newer than this one? Something based off a Sense 4 base.
I would love to go the CM route, but I love my Sense Mail. No other mail apps have come close to the way it handles multiple accounts, subfolders (both imap and exchange), and even message threads/grouping.
I didn't see anything here besides the one mentioned above and some older 2.x based ROMs.
Thanks
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so, you want a de-sensed, sense based rom? ?
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so, you want a de-sensed, sense based rom? ?
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Yes. I'm can't claim to understand everything about ROMs, but from what I've read you need Sense to have Sense Mail.
Every thread you read about someone wanting HTC Sense Mail app on their non-HTC phone or ASOP ROM, ends with something to his effect:
You need x, y or z from the Sense 'framework' for Sense Mail to work.
The Sense Mail app in Viper is great. I just want to have something with the default launcher removed, but the other stuff intact and run a different launcher.
Can I safely freeze, disable, or remove the "HTC Sense x.x.x (Desktop) without trashing my phone?
I'll also take suggestions for alternate mail apps, but they need to have the following functions;
ability to sync subfolders (exchange and imap)
an "all messages' view per account
grouped message threads
I'll attach some screenshots to try and show what I mean.
The last time I tried some of the ones out there (free and paid), I didn't get all the functionality I was looking for.
Why don't you just download an alternative launcher and leave the Sense launcher be?
And yes you can freeze things one by one to see up to what point the ROM will still be stable then simply delete them
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Hi !
I'm very happy with my Hero, but im kinda tired that HTC hasn't released atleast a 1.6 ROM yet.
Im thinking of flashing a 2.x ROM, but which is the most stable? I use my phone at work, so can't go around and reboot it constantly. Also Exchange mail is a must!
Any tips? (looking at kagu/ckdroid)
CKDroid works great! I find it most stable.
this may be a little early to make the claim of stability but i have been using AOSP 2.1 r1 by jnwhiteh all day, and it has been very stable.
i was using kagudroid before this.
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this may be a little early to make the claim of stability but i have been using AOSP 2.1 r1 by jnwhiteh all day, and it has been very stable.
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CKDroid is based on it
Why don't you try MoDaCo custom roms? They are android 1.5 but heavely optimised, they're faster then any 2.x rom i've tried.
I'd say CKDroid is the fastest of the 2.X ROMs. And as far as I've tested it up against MoDaCo when it comes to speed, they are quite equal.
Ok, i'll try CKDroid.
I can't seem to see a complete flash guide. Can someone link me?
Is there indeed an offical 2.1 rom coming at some point?
ProfessorAsian said:
Is there indeed an offical 2.1 rom coming at some point?
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Around mid-Feb.
culturelol said:
Ok, i'll try CKDroid.
I can't seem to see a complete flash guide. Can someone link me?
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Just written
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622228
KaguDroid 1.1 by LoxDev is amazing. Fast and stable. Really nice!!
what about hero2.1 v1.8?( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=592596)
i want to try a 2.1 rom with sense and i read that this is the most stable...it's true? what about the hero/espresso hybrid?
I find this one the best Sense ROM by far - full albums / camera / bluetooth etc.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=613746
Well
I tried MoDaCo 3.1 hours after getting my hero, and about the same length of time later I removed it, it was horrible and I used to get crashes of the "system" process and had to reboot, happened 5-10 times in fewer hours so i switched straight back to a rooted version of the original Hero generic latest ROM.
I might consider givng another senseUI 2.1 option a try before i make my final judgement, but that's just my experience with the MoDaCo one so far.
has anyone tried the new VILLAIN 1.0??? it seems to be almost perfect! i'm gonna try it tomorrow...if anyone has already tried it please tell me how it works!
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has anyone tried the new VILLAIN 1.0??? it seems to be almost perfect! i'm gonna try it tomorrow...if anyone has already tried it please tell me how it works!
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Running very nicely here, its just missing the htc mail program so no exchange support and a couple of problems with the htc weather program not liking other locations
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Running very nicely here, its just missing the htc mail program so no exchange support and a couple of problems with the htc weather program not liking other locations
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Yeh I just looked at that, and the exchange and lack of HTC keyboard are the only two things keeping me from flashing to it just yet. (I'm a perfectionist, so it's gotta be perfect before I'll even consider it.)
yes i read those problems...but can be resolved easily...so, when the cook will release the next version, i'll flash instantly! goodnight
I suggest KaguDroid 1.1 or later, or AOSP 2.1-r2 or later, if you can handle a vanilla (no sense ui).
Villain has Sense; which is nice because of Facebook contact sync. All other parts of Sense can be imitated by apps (like the clock/weather can be done by beautiful widgets). There are some other issues with Network Location and there is no included HTC or Android music widget in Villain. Although I prefer the HTC home-screen, I also prefer the Android lock-screen.
KaguDroid includes voice input from the keyboard, so you can use dictation to enter text into a field in ANY app.
Villain doesn't provide the HTC IME keyboard, or voice input (as of today).
Market works without using Market Enabler, for Rogers (Canada) in Kagu/AOSP. SMS incoming timestamps are correct without using SMSfixtimes in Kagu/AOSP.
As far as stability is concerned, I haven't really had issues with any of Villain/Kagu1.1/AOSP2.1-r2
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I suggest KaguDroid 1.1 or later, or AOSP 2.1-r2 or later, if you can handle a vanilla (no sense ui).
Villain has Sense; which is nice because of Facebook contact sync. All other parts of Sense can be imitated by apps (like the clock/weather can be done by beautiful widgets). There are some other issues with Network Location and there is no included HTC or Android music widget in Villain. Although I prefer the HTC home-screen, I also prefer the Android lock-screen.
KaguDroid includes voice input from the keyboard, so you can use dictation to enter text into a field in ANY app.
Villain doesn't provide the HTC IME keyboard, or voice input (as of today).
Market works without using Market Enabler, for Rogers (Canada) in Kagu/AOSP. SMS incoming timestamps are correct without using SMSfixtimes in Kagu/AOSP.
As far as stability is concerned, I haven't really had issues with any of Villain/Kagu1.1/AOSP2.1-r2
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definetely kagudroid..stable and full market!
Basically, I love the black, glossy Sense framework look (although I use launcherpro). I love the HTC dialer, the USB connection menu, the copy-and-paste and wifi router and the HTC camera from Froyo ROMs.
However, official Facebook/Twitter apps will not sync with Sense ROMs. I even pushed the default contacts app to the device, but the sync is still not working well. Also, voice search, chrome to phone etc is missing from the market in many Sense ROMs. I also prefer the stock Android contacts and messaging apps over HTCs.
I want to build a hybrid rom, probably based on the vanilla Opendesire ROM. I can skin the framework to black myself. My question is, does anyone know how to get the HTC camera / dialer /copy and paste / wifi / USB type apps onto a vanilla desire ROM?
I tried pushing the .apks myself through cmd but most just force close.
I'd really appreciate the help - I know a lot of users who are after these features.
Cheers,
Mike
Good idea! Also count HTC mail app with full exchange support.
I am not sure if there would be easier to start the other side - from the froyo sense rom and remove all unnecessary stuff...
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Good idea! Also count HTC mail app with full exchange support.
I am not sure if there would be easier to start the other side - from the froyo sense rom and remove all unnecessary stuff...
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This is the angle that I'm currently working. However, there is SO much junk in there, and I cannot for the life of me get Facebook / Twitter sync to work. I stripped out the Sense apps and installed the default Android contacts .apk. If I manually sync every contact through HTC 'People' / Facebook for Sense, it does somehow link the default Facebook app to the contact, but loads of bits don't work properly.
It's very annoying as integration of contacts between apps is one of the nicest features in Android (coming from a Moto Milestone), but doesn't exist on Sense Roms.
So nobody knows if it's possible to get the htc camera onto a rom without sense?
It's almost impossible as the Sense apps rely almost intirely on the Sense frameworks. You would need to port the Sense stuff from the frameworks.
One thing is cirtan: It will be hard or someone would've already done it.
I would however love this if it was possible
Juste remove the .apk you don't need in the /system/app folder, and then install the Sense ROM you want, download LauncherPro on the Market, and you will forget Sense but keep all Sense app and widgets !
but, very good IDEA
For sure _start_ with the Sense ROM, and remove stuff you don't want to get as close as possible to the ROM you want. This is what Team Villain did with their SuperHero roms.
Basicly all the Sense apps _rely_ on the HTC Framework. Pushing just a few .apk's to an AOSP rom will _never_ work. Without taking the needed stuff from the framework, which is basicly everything.
Facebook sync has little to nothing to do with the facebook app and / or the contacts app. Specially the contacts app does nothing with that. It are the dedicated sync providers that do the work and modify the contact-store. But (AFAIK this is widely known) getting facebook sync to work with the stock facebook app is about modifying your build.prop. If the facebook app detects a sense-model phone it won't present the sync options! On the hero with a clean compiled AOSP rom, changing the build.prop to report it as a Sapphire instead of a Hero and 'tadaah', facebook sync works.
The same with the desire: make sure the build.prop reports itself as a nexus one, and not a desire or any other phone model that came stock with sense, and it should work.
Once again, if you want a hybrid: Take a look at SuperHero rom for the Hero, and more importantly: Start with the Sense ROM of your choice and strip everything you don't want / like, retheme what you want to look stock and keep going. Getting the stock calendar / messaging apps in might be as simple as pushing the .apk's. Things like browser / people (contacts) / phone (dialer) I'm not so sure about, but it doesn't hurt to try!
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For sure _start_ with the Sense ROM, and remove stuff you don't want to get as close as possible to the ROM you want. This is what Team Villain did with their SuperHero roms.
Basicly all the Sense apps _rely_ on the HTC Framework. Pushing just a few .apk's to an AOSP rom will _never_ work. Without taking the needed stuff from the framework, which is basicly everything.
Facebook sync has little to nothing to do with the facebook app and / or the contacts app. Specially the contacts app does nothing with that. It are the dedicated sync providers that do the work and modify the contact-store. But (AFAIK this is widely known) getting facebook sync to work with the stock facebook app is about modifying your build.prop. If the facebook app detects a sense-model phone it won't present the sync options! On the hero with a clean compiled AOSP rom, changing the build.prop to report it as a Sapphire instead of a Hero and 'tadaah', facebook sync works.
The same with the desire: make sure the build.prop reports itself as a nexus one, and not a desire or any other phone model that came stock with sense, and it should work.
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THIS is what I need to do! Any guidance on this build.prop?
Hi there all,
Is it possible to remove the HTC sense phone, txt and contacts apps.
I prefer the Android version alot to the HTC ones.
If you are running a sense rom it will cause you problems if you try to.
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If you are running a sense rom it will cause you problems if you try to.
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Dam... so is it possible to install just the HTC camera on say a Cyanogen 6 ROM?
If one was to remove the default HTC phone, txt and contacts and isntall Android and set as default I cant see a problem.
Can anyone point me in the direction of ripping apk's from a image. I've got various Sense and non Sense ROMS and I'd like to look into having together my perfect ROM.
I want the Friend Stream app from HTC Sense on my CM6 RC1, and the weather app. Wouldnt mind the nice transparent bottom menu I've seen in some Foroy sense ROMS.
I use a 2003 Exchange server at work and I can't receive html emails with any of the stock emails apps (or sense 1.x,2.x or AOSPs). This isn't a problem on my end, this is a know situation with 2003. However, out of curiousity, I was trying out some new sense 3.0 roms and low and behold html email works.
Now for the question, as I don't care so much for Sense in general, is there a way to use this Sense email app with an AOSP rom? I would really love to not use Touchdown anymore. TIA
I use TouchDown, no issues with it there.
You could extract the Mail.apk from a Sense 3.0 ROM and install it in a 2.X ROM and see if it works. There probably will be more to it than that, but you never know if you don't try it. I am guessing that it won't work, and I know it won't work in a Sense 1.X ROM.
Sense 3.0 Mail will not work with an ASOP ROM. It requires the Sense framework.
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Hi All,
I've been running Aero's CM9 for ages but would like to give Nit's UKB a shot. One thing I despise about Sense, however, is the messaging app; and I'd prefer to use the ICS AOSP messaging app, as well as dialer / contacts.
I understand that Nit's installer lets you choose which of the Sense apps you want or don't want (so I'd imagine I'd unselect the dialer / contacts / messaging / whatever else I don't want), however I'm wondering how to properly import the AOSP apps to replace them.
Looks like I could rip them from my own CM9 install and copy over via the method described in this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1735507 - however it seems that the AOSP messaging is hit or miss in terms of getting MMS working properly.
I'm curious - has anyone here successfully replaced any Sense 4 apps with their AOSP equivalents? If so, what steps did you take?
Any suggestions are appreciated.
Best regards,
-Dirk